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I quite liked the alleluia - I think it would work well in certain settings - but what's with the "according to the tradition of John"? Not too sure about that...

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I'm positive this has been posted before, butDoes anyone think you should applaud the gospel procession?

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*bump*

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*double bump*

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quote:
Originally posted by Think²:
*double bump*

Hint taken. Doubly.

S. Clement's has a YouTube channel. It's worth a look.

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As does St John's Detroit, now with new additions from Gaudete.
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quote:
Originally posted by LQ:
As does St John's Detroit, now with new additions from Gaudete.

Too bad that S. John's, Detroit apparently can't afford surplices.
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quote:
Originally posted by highchurc:
Too bad that S. John's, Detroit apparently can't afford surplices.

Yeah, it seems everybody must deal with deficits nowadays.
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[with apologies to the hosts for all the links!]

For those who are still celebrating with joy the Nativity of our Lord, I provide links to video (V) and audio (A) clips of Christmas services. If you know of any others you would like to share, please link to them on this thread. If you don't know how to link but can tell us where to find the clips, then we can probably link them for you here. (Warning: I am not sure how long these clips will be accessible, so kindly enjoy them as soon as possible.)

Christmas Eve and Midnight:
(V) Mount Tabor Lutheran Church (ELCA), South Carolina
(V) Washington National Episcopal Cathedral, 6PM + bulletin pdf
(V) Washington National Episcopal Cathedral, 10PM + bulletin pdf
(V) Trinity Wall Street Episcopal, 10PM, NYC + bulletin pdf
(A) S. Thomas 5th Av Epis, NYC, Less & Carols, 4PM + bulletin pdf
(A) S. Thomas 5th Av, NYC, Pre-service music 10:30PM
(A) S. Thomas 5th Av, NYC, 11PM + bulletin pdf
(A) S. Anne's Cathedral, Leeds
(V) Westminster Catholic Cathedral, London
(A) Grace Episcopal Cathedral, SF, 11PM + bulletin pdf


Christmas Day
(V) Washington National Episcopal Cathedral, 9AM + bulletin pdf
(V) Trinity Wall Street Episcopal, NYC, 11:15AM + bulletin pdf
(A) S. Thomas 5th Av, NYC, 11AM + bulletin pdf
(A) Grace Episcopal Cathedral, SF, 11AM + bulletin pdf

Once again, kindly link any others you have come across.

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quote:
Originally posted by Martin L:
[with apologies to the hosts for all the links!]

Well... seeing as it's Christmas... [Biased]

Thanks for your efforts, Martin L. Looks like several hours' worth of wonderful viewing/listening. Folks, note that several of the pdf files are HUGE!

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Lutheran Mass on 1 January 2010 at the Kloster St. Wigberti in Werningshausen in Thuringia.

St. Wigberti is a Lutheran monastic community organized in accordance with the rule of St. Benedict.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R562Y-rGTrM&feature=sdig&et=1262953940.11

An impressive liturgy spoiled only by the poor server fumbling for his handkerchief.

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quote:
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Lutheran Mass on 1 January 2010 at the Kloster St. Wigberti in Werningshausen in Thuringia.

Indeed it is impressive. The ringing of the bell at the consecration more than makes up for the Kleenex Incident. With a few small exceptions, this is almost identical to what would happen in many Lutheran churches, but the notable exception here is a profound atmosphere of reverence as opposed to a more common casual atmosphere.

Thank you for the link! [Big Grin]

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Well, I was enjoying it thoroughly until I heard the setting of the Sanctus -- the Schubert Drindlmesse, as I like to call his German Mass.

Yuck.

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Here's a video (well, slide show) of a liturgy you won't encounter every week. [Eek!] Location is Queen of All Saints Basilica on the far north side of Chicago.
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My first reaction was, "What the heck is +Jeffrey Lee doing there?" and then realized it's just his photo on the photographer's cover page. Interesting liturgy; I didn't know the Malta guys were still around.

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I had the same reaction. Great minds... [Big Grin]

These were among the best pictures of the interior of QAS Basilica that I've ever seen. Usually the lighting causes photographers much difficulty.

[ 13. January 2010, 20:17: Message edited by: Martin L ]

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Here are links to some videos of the recent enthronement of Patriarch Irinej of Serbia.

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Perhaps a bit late, but here's the Protestant Reformation service from my shack. Not complete, the cam battery ran off just before the sermon. We managed to squeeze a couple Joules out of it by the Thanksgiving RIte (it was a Service of the Word; this year we intend to do a proper Eucharist, including the Eucharistic Prayer).

Here's the service sheet: http://tiny.cc/syHde

It's all in Portuguese, but most of the hymns will be familiar.

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There's a series of videos of High Mass at Christ Church Cathedral, Nassau Bahamas.
Here's another of the offertory, with some very nice singing by the choir.

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quote:
Originally posted by St.Silas the carter:
There's a series of videos of High Mass at Christ Church Cathedral, Nassau Bahamas.
Here's another of the offertory, with some very nice singing by the choir.

Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for this! This is the Anglicanism of my childhood.

Thank you!

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quote:
Originally posted by Michael Astley:
quote:
Originally posted by St.Silas the carter:
There's a series of videos of High Mass at Christ Church Cathedral, Nassau Bahamas.
Here's another of the offertory, with some very nice singing by the choir.

Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for this! This is the Anglicanism of my childhood.

Thank you!

I always pictured West Indies churches as AO.
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quote:
Originally posted by Martin L:
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Astley:
quote:
Originally posted by St.Silas the carter:
There's a series of videos of High Mass at Christ Church Cathedral, Nassau Bahamas.
Here's another of the offertory, with some very nice singing by the choir.

Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for this! This is the Anglicanism of my childhood.

Thank you!

I always pictured West Indies churches as AO.
Possibly some are but not at any of the 11 Anglican churches on my island. Apart from on EWTN, which I watched faithfully as a child, I never saw AO it until I returned to the UK.

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Trinity Wall Street Palm Sunday.

Do take a look at their pdf bulletin for the day--they sang the Passion, with the congregation chanting the part of Jesus.

[Warning to my fellow Ecclesiantists and regular lurkers: unpop your monocles now to prevent damage. All Glory, Laud, and Honor was accompanied only with a drum + trumpet combination, to which I shall henceforth refer as a "drumpet" accompaniment. There is also a bit of cantorial hand-waving. Still, one must laud their pluck for singing a congregational de Angelis Sanctus and a congregational Missa Marialis Agnus Dei in this day and age.]

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I was looking for this thread-
Photos and a description of Palm Sunday at my parish Here.
Actually, there are some more photos Here.

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Easter Vigil at Boe Memorial Chapel, St Olaf College, Northfield MN - USA Transferring these posts from another thread:

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Originally posted by Bartolomeo:
This report regarding the annual Easter Vigil at Boe was written three years ago. This year they published video for this event, I believe for the first time. The chapel is in candlelight for the first 56 minutes, so the video quality is poor, though the sound quality is good and the reading from Genesis with the sound effects from the organ is worth listening to.

Probably the best example of high church Lutheranism you'll find anywhere. Note the brass quartet accompaniment for the liturgy and hymns, and the part singing by the congregation.

The choir was an unpaid pick-up group that doesn't ordinarily sing together. They rehearsed for 45 minutes prior to the service, and sing the psalm and two anthems.

Unfortunately, they didn't have a camera on the organ console for the Widor Toccata at the end.

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Originally posted by Mamacita:
Here is a link to the service mentioned in Bartolomeo's opening post. The OP, however, is more about the video of the 2010 service than about a discussion of an MW report. It would be better suited to the Ecclesiantics Videos thread, so I'll move these two posts there. Hang on!

(And Bartolomeo is right about the cool organ sound effects during the Genesis reading!)

Mamacita, Eccles Host



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A bit of light relief for Easter Sunday

Episcopalian tat Barbie !

[Big Grin]

(you may need to be logged in to Facebook, sorry)

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quote:
Originally posted by CJ:
A bit of light relief for Easter Sunday

Episcopalian tat Barbie !

[Big Grin]

(you may need to be logged in to Facebook, sorry)

There certainly must be somewhere on Ship to display that, um, treasure..the gadget page, perhaps?

I thought the "sacristy" was a confessional. Now they need the supplementals--east-facing altar, west-facing altar, font with flowing water, Buddhist chair in case Barbie wants to preside in St. Gregory of Nyssa style, etc.

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EWTN is running an Extraordinary Form mass today, celebrated by a bishop* at the BNSIC. It's running right now here (started at 12pm CDT) and is scheduled to rebroadcast again tonight, when they customarily run the evening rebroadcast of the day's mass.

The high altar is being used, and the Kyrie at least is Palestrina.

*The info says the celebrant is Dario Castrillon Hoyos, but I don't think it is. It is not Archbishop Wuerl (of DC), Archbishop Sambi (nuncio), or Archbishop Broglio (Military Services).

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A change was announced this week. The celebrant is Bishop Edward Slattery of Tulsa.
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And the nave altar was completely gone!
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I was there. Unfortunately, I arrived at the last second. As it was standing room only, I barely got to see anything. As a result, it was a less than pleasant experience.

I was gratified to see that most of the women were not obsessive "Catholic Amish" types, but modern-looking women. However, that strange little subculture was there as well.

Although I am generally sympathetic to Cardinal Castrillon's point of view on reporting sex abuse to the state, I was glad he bowed out, as the risk of violence ruining the mass would have
high. As it was, there was a paddywagon or two outside the Shrine in case there was any trouble. I notice one lone protestor - a short, obviously mentally-defective woman who walked down the center aisle with a small sign during the gradual. She was quietly escorted out of the shrine, and I don't think many people witnessed it.
They did a nice job all things considered.

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Don't know if it's been posted here already, but I rather enjoy watching the services of St. Andrew and St. Paul's, Montreal (UCCan).

Pretty much a Presbyterian hymn sandwich with tat. Their choir is pretty good, though.

Here.

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Shadowhund, was I hearing things, or did some of the faithful attempt to join in the praying of the Lord's Prayer? Were they meant to join in, according to the service leaflet?

It did seem to be a "Dialogue Mass," with the people joining in on parts, but is it possible to have a "Dialogue Mass" when there is a choir?

[I sometimes suspect that the vast bulk of the supposed Extraordinary Form supporters wouldn't know the difference between an east-facing Latin Ordinary Form mass with a good choir singing plainsong and an EF mass. At the very least I think many would be appeased with a Latin Ordinary Form mass.]

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Since the Roman rite now encourages congregational participation in the Pater noster and has done so for over 40 years,it is not surprising that those who attend an EF Mass would be unaware that the Pater noster was recited in the Roman rite by the priest alone up to the last line Sed libera nos a malo.
Even before the 'changes' it was quite common for the congregation at a dialogue Mass to recite together the whole of the Pater noster,even if the rubrics directed otherwise.

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I should have added that at a sung Mass,the priest would sing the Pater noster and the congregation join in at the last line.Nowadays the congregation will sing all of the Pater noster even when the Mass is celebrated in Latin.That is assuming that they join in any of the singing !
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quote:
Originally posted by Martin L:
Shadowhund, was I hearing things, or did some of the faithful attempt to join in the praying of the Lord's Prayer? Were they meant to join in, according to the service leaflet?

It did seem to be a "Dialogue Mass," with the people joining in on parts, but is it possible to have a "Dialogue Mass" when there is a choir?

[I sometimes suspect that the vast bulk of the supposed Extraordinary Form supporters wouldn't know the difference between an east-facing Latin Ordinary Form mass with a good choir singing plainsong and an EF mass. At the very least I think many would be appeased with a Latin Ordinary Form mass.]

No, the people were not supposed to say the Our Father because, as you might guess, the laity were not supposed sing it at a Solemn Mass. That could be done, however, at a low dialogue mass. Not that I think that it's a big fat deal that some people did it. I don't remember what the program said (I gave it to a friend that evening), but there were some inaccuracies in the program, including a reference to the celebrant intoning the Gloria from the center of the altar. Ooops. The material was clearly cut-n-pasted from an old missal.

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quote:
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Not that I think that it's a big fat deal that some people did it.

Nor do I, of course.

If people are going to cheer for the Extraordinary Form, they should at least get to know what it is. To be blunt, it means they give up their voice, in solemn (and solemn pontifical) masses at least.

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Right now (Monday night, 4:30PM CDT), there is a Memorial Mass in honor of John Cardinal O'Connor being broadcast on EWTN. Celebrant is Archbishop Dolan, with Cardinal Egan and other bishops in attendance.

A few notes so far:

Flags were trooped in before the entrance hymn, and placed by a picture of the late cardinal.

The liturgical color is red

A Kyrie-confession was used, followed by a sung Kyrie.

The Gloria was sung (I wouldn't expect it in a Memorial Mass).

The musical setting was Proulx's adaptation of Schubert's Deutsche Messe, used for both Kyrie and Gloria so far.

I am assuming that Philip and James are being celebrated today, explaining the red and the Gloria, but I could be mistaken. Now that I hear the first reading, I suspect I am correct.

What seemed to be billed as a special Memorial Mass now seems to be a regular mass for the day, offered with the intention of memorializing Cardinal O'Connor.

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In the 'olden 'days Masses for the dead were often celebrated using the forms of the Requiem Mass.Nowadays it is very often the Mass of the Day with a mention of the deceased at the appropriate moment in the rite.
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I received this on one of my listserves today and immediately thought that some of the Eccles regulars might enjoy it: The Hours of Catherine of Cleves.

It is a digital exhibit of an illuminated manuscript held by the The Morgan Library and Museum (as in Pierpont Morgan, father of J.P.). Here is the description:
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The manuscript is a prayer book "containing an unusually rich series of devotions illustrated with especially elaborate suites of miniatures," that was commissioned by Catherine of Cleves (1417-1476). Considered to be the greatest Dutch illuminated manuscript in the world, it is a tremendously impressive work. Visitors should click on the link "See Thumbnails" to look at the thumbnails of the manuscript to take in all the rich colors and to find the well-known
illustrations that look like beasts or demons with mouths wide, and people inside those mouths.

You can listen to some of the prayers, and you can also access an English translation along with the Latin on each page.

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I cam across this mini-documentary of Matthew Fox's cosmic techno Mass.

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I cam across this mini-documentary of Matthew Fox's cosmic techno Mass.

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"Eyes on a page are not really a way to open the heart up" [Fox]

Fox is like any other push-the-envelope liturgist du jour: my way is right, and your way is wrong.

He makes a severe error in logic by stating the quote above. There are plenty of people who connect the most intensely during worship while they are looking at words on a page, listening quietly to prayers being offered up, and concentrating inwardly on the words that they pray. A common mistake that people make nowadays is to disregard the internal component of worship, or to misjudge worshippers by observing their outward behavior. This reminds me of Luther's comments to his fellow Protestants on outward and inward acts of devotion:

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Luther: The Adoration of the Sacrament
From these words we understand that there are two kinds of worship: one outward and physical, the other inward and spiritual. It is outward worship when you choose outward places and gestures to express it, as when in the church or before the altar or the sacrament you prostrate yourself, kneel, bend your body, bow your head, look up toward heaven, speak with your mouth and do similar things that can be done outwardly and are signs by which you outwardly acknowledge your God or overlord. But in this passage Christ rejects such worship if it takes place with the idea that it is pleasing to God and is enough in itself without any inward spiritual worship, as the Jews maintained. But where the inward worship accompanies it, it is well and good, as the patriarchs, prophets, apostles, and all the saints have done.

Perhaps Fox's mass is a way of reaching out to people. If it truly brings people into the church, then good for him. That doesn't give him the right to proclaim that the rest of us are doing it wrong, though.
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quote:
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I cam across this mini-documentary of Matthew Fox's cosmic techno Mass.

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Indeed. I can't think of many places where a Christian might open their heart better than with their eyes on the pages of Scripture!

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quote:
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I cam across this mini-documentary of Matthew Fox's cosmic techno Mass.

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I cringed throughout the clip. It's the sort of thing that might be interesting, moving, even prayerful in the context of a theatre or art installation, but as the worship of the Church???

And apart from one person right at the end, I didn't notice anybody who was not white, middle-class (as far as one could judge: certainly no-one who was obese or badly dressed), or even, mostly, middle-aged (no-one appeared to be under 30 and most were in the 50-60 age range).

Ritual, as Fox says, is certainly important, but when it's as self-conscious as this it becomes 'performance' rather than prayer.

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I think I noticed some younger people, but for what it's worth I did notice the age skewing toward the 1960s uni crowd as well.

I'm not exactly surprised that children of the 1960s living near Berkeley are suspicious of traditional Christianity, that they favor incorporating other religious traditions into the mix, and that they seek a more physical style of religious practice like the Eastern religious offer.

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quote:
Originally posted by Angloid:
quote:
Originally posted by FCB:
I cam across this mini-documentary of Matthew Fox's cosmic techno Mass.

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I cringed throughout the clip. It's the sort of thing that might be interesting, moving, even prayerful in the context of a theatre or art installation, but as the worship of the Church???

And apart from one person right at the end, I didn't notice anybody who was not white, middle-class (as far as one could judge: certainly no-one who was obese or badly dressed), or even, mostly, middle-aged (no-one appeared to be under 30 and most were in the 50-60 age range).

Ritual, as Fox says, is certainly important, but when it's as self-conscious as this it becomes 'performance' rather than prayer.

I quite enjoyed it and didn't think it was that self-conscious. I especially like the idea of getting our heads up, out of our books. Also the use of the body in worship in a way that is liberated, as opposed to somewhat dessicated ceremonial.

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I thought it was very 1990 - already way behind the times.

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Here are some photographs of my ordination.

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Here are some photographs of my ordination.

Beautiful! Congratulations Michael!

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There is a Quicktime video from a couple of years ago of Mass for the Feast of Christ the King at the the Cathedral of the Madeleine in Salt Lake City, Utah, at this page.

From the description:
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Introit: Dignus est Agnus, Mode III

Processional hymn: Crown Him with many crowns, Diamemata

Gloria & Agnus Dei: Messe Solennelle, Jean Langlais

Music for the preparation of gifts: Faire is the Heaven, William Harris

Communio: Amen dico vobis, Mode IV




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