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SeraphimSarov
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S. Clement's Rector announced in the June parish newsletter that a video of the High Mass and Procession for Corpus Christi will be uploaded to the parish website.
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Clear Creek Benedictines:
here
Very well produced! One hopes they might follow this up with videos filled with the things they only teased us with in this one: whole liturgies and chants. It was a little jarring to see "Matins" come up on the screen and immediately hear the beginning of a Credo. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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TubaMirum
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Clear Creek Benedictines:
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Very well produced! One hopes they might follow this up with videos filled with the things they only teased us with in this one: whole liturgies and chants. It was a little jarring to see "Matins" come up on the screen and immediately hear the beginning of a Credo.
Perhaps Mass is celebrated before, during, or after Matins? They sang the Compline song during the Compline section, so somebody knows something about what's going on.
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Here is the Clear Creek horarium:
Rise:4:50 a.m.
Matins:5:15
Lauds:6:15
Low Mass:6:50
Prime:8:00
Lectio Divina:9:00
Terce, High Mass:10:00
Study or Work:11:15
Sext:12:50 p.m.
Recreation: 2:00
None:2:35
Manual Labor:3:00
Vespers:6:00
Silent Prayer:6:30
Lectio Divina or Conference:7:00
Compline:8:25
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Here's a hilarious one. The first two minutes are clips from the 1947 installation of Henry Knox Sherrill as Presiding Bishop of PECUSA.
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SeraphimSarov
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very..........ummmmmm......Protestant ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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"It brings to the Protestant Episcopal Church a valiant enemy in the fight against evil."
omg! lol. Why am I waiting for the announcer to hawk war bonds?
Is it a bird, is it a plane? No! It's His Grace, ABp. Knox Sherrill.
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How quaint! Nowadays, the same ceremony as reported would begin with the Indian smokers, the banner-bearers, and a certain licensed episcopal pilot.
None of that forces of evil stuff... except if we do get a quote from Archbishop Akinola! ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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Why on earth does Tuba find the newsreel of Bp Sherrill's installation "hilarious" ?
I think a lot of us would cheerfully go back to 1947 and enjoy a church where order, peace and good works prevailed - and members, however divergent their liturgical practice, seemed to share a common faith.
I found the conviction and simplicity of the small part of the ceremony shown to be deeply moving.
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TubaMirum
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Originally posted by Meaculpa:
Why on earth does Tuba find the newsreel of Bp Sherrill's installation "hilarious" ?
I think a lot of us would cheerfully go back to 1947 and enjoy a church where order, peace and good works prevailed - and members, however divergent their liturgical practice, seemed to share a common faith.
I found the conviction and simplicity of the small part of the ceremony shown to be deeply moving.
Well, I hate to mention it, but a lot of us wouldn't enjoy 1947 at all - and I bet you wouldn't, either. Few women went to college, and female lawyers had to work as secretaries; schools were segregated and Jim Crow laws in effect; gay people got electroshock therapy; the church was monochrome and monotone (which is why there was "peace," I suppose).
But that wasn't the main point of "hilarious" anyway. It was the drama of the newsreel footage and the "enemy of evil" thing that gave me - and the others here - a chuckle.
Nothing to do with church politics at all. Sheesh.
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How interesting. Heartening as it is to see ladies in nice mantillas, I wonder how "traditional" it is to have a schola of women, particularly in the light of Inter Sollicitudines V. 13 (of 1903), which says
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On the same principle [that "With the exception of the melodies proper to the celebrant at the altar and to the ministers, which must be always sung in Gregorian Chant, and without accompaniment of the organ, all the rest of the liturgical chant belongs to the choir of levites, and, therefore, singers in the church, even when they are laymen, are really taking the place of the ecclesiastical choir"] it follows that singers in church have a real liturgical office, and that therefore women, being incapable of exercising such office, cannot be admitted to form part of the choir. Whenever, then, it is desired to employ the acute voices of sopranos and contraltos, these parts must be taken by boys, according to the most ancient usage of the Church.
Poor old Pius X!
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Originally posted by Archimandrite:
How interesting. Heartening as it is to see ladies in nice mantillas, I wonder how "traditional" it is to have a schola of women, particularly in the light of Inter Sollicitudines V. 13 (of 1903)
Has any dictum been more universally ignored, and more pleasantly? I think I have the sound of women chanting within my bone marrow, having heard nuns chant Masses in my grandmother's church at a very early age (the last days of the 1962 Mass).
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Originally posted by Archimandrite:
How interesting. Heartening as it is to see ladies in nice mantillas, I wonder how "traditional" it is to have a schola of women, particularly in the light of Inter Sollicitudines V. 13 (of 1903), which says
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On the same principle [that "With the exception of the melodies proper to the celebrant at the altar and to the ministers, which must be always sung in Gregorian Chant, and without accompaniment of the organ, all the rest of the liturgical chant belongs to the choir of levites, and, therefore, singers in the church, even when they are laymen, are really taking the place of the ecclesiastical choir"] it follows that singers in church have a real liturgical office, and that therefore women, being incapable of exercising such office, cannot be admitted to form part of the choir. Whenever, then, it is desired to employ the acute voices of sopranos and contraltos, these parts must be taken by boys, according to the most ancient usage of the Church.
Poor old Pius X!
I reminded of James Joyce in "The Dead" where he has a character exclaim "I don't think it's very honourable of the Pope to throw the women out of the choirs, that have been there for years! Slaving away! and put little whipper snappers of boys over their heads!! Well now, I'm sure it's for the good of the Church if the Pope says so, but it's not just and not right!!"
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Meaculpa
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Tuba knows perfectly well that my nostalgia for 1947 was directed to the unity, faith and order of Holy Church.
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TubaMirum
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Originally posted by Meaculpa:
Tuba knows perfectly well that my nostalgia for 1947 was directed to the unity, faith and order of Holy Church.
Unfortunately, we don't get to ignore the rest while waxing nostalgic about one particular aspect of the past.
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Originally posted by TubaMirum:
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Originally posted by Meaculpa:
Tuba knows perfectly well that my nostalgia for 1947 was directed to the unity, faith and order of Holy Church.
Unfortunately, we don't get to ignore the rest while waxing nostalgic about one particular aspect of the past.
A very whiggish approach.
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TubaMirum
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Originally posted by Archimandrite:
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Originally posted by TubaMirum:
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Originally posted by Meaculpa:
Tuba knows perfectly well that my nostalgia for 1947 was directed to the unity, faith and order of Holy Church.
Unfortunately, we don't get to ignore the rest while waxing nostalgic about one particular aspect of the past.
A very whiggish approach.
Sorry, don't get the reference.
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TubaMirum
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Here's a Cantor and choir singing the "Cherubic Hymn" from the Byzantine Liturgy, at YouTube. It's very beautiful and mysterious music. Here's the description blurb:
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Greek Orthodox chanter Theodoros Vassilikos chants the Cherubic Hymn.
It says: "We, who mystically represent the Cherubim, and chant the thrice-holy hymn to the Life-giving Trinity, let us set aside the cares of life that we may receive the King of all, Who comes invisibly escorted by the Heavenly Hosts."
The Cherubic Hymn is the primary cherubicon, or song of the angels, sung in the Divine Liturgy. It occurs after the Gospel reading. The Cherubic Hymn was added to the Liturgy of St John Chrysostom by Emperor Justinian near the end of the sixth century. Before that it was part of the ancient Liturgy of St James, brother of Jesus (died AD 62).
Though the actual text is short, the hymn lasts for quite a while due to its drawn-out, ethereal style. It is our best imitation of the singing of the angels.
No musical instruments are used in traditional Eastern Orthodox services.
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the church was monochrome and monotone (which is why there was "peace," I suppose).
Says who? The ANGLICAN MISSAL and ANGLICAN BREVIARY were drafted around that time, by solid Catholics who were worlds apart from the "Protestant" Episcopal parishes all around them. I don't mean to continue this tangent--let me try and dig up film footage from one of the old AC plants for comparison's sake
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TubaMirum
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Originally posted by lukacs:
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Originally posted by TubaMirum:
the church was monochrome and monotone (which is why there was "peace," I suppose).
Says who? The ANGLICAN MISSAL and ANGLICAN BREVIARY were drafted around that time, by solid Catholics who were worlds apart from the "Protestant" Episcopal parishes all around them. I don't mean to continue this tangent--let me try and dig up film footage from one of the old AC plants for comparison's sake
Again, my reference had nothing to do with church politics. But I'm not getting on this tangent here anyway; Meaculpa got insulted about my having fun with a video (of all things), so I answered, that's all.
Please put it in Purgatory or something.
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If anyone wants to share in an amazing liturgy, worthily celebrating the remarkable Fr John Andrew's 50 years as a priest, complete with "Christus Vincit", "Ecce Sacerdos" and a post-blessing sermon by a member of the Curia, a cardinal no less! - do go to the Saint Thomas Fifth Avenue web site and listen to last Sunday's 11:00 am Mass (June 17).
http://www.saintthomaschurch.org/
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If anyone wants to share in an amazing liturgy, worthily celebrating the remarkable Fr John Andrew's 50 years as a priest, complete with "Christus Vincit", "Ecce Sacerdos" and a post-blessing sermon by a member of the Curia, a cardinal no less! - do go to the Saint Thomas Fifth Avenue web site and listen to last Sunday's 11:00 am Mass (June 17).
http://www.saintthomaschurch.org/
I must agree that is a very wonderful audio file, and would heartily agree with Meaculpa on this one.
Here's a video at YouTube of the Saint Paul Cathedral Choir singing Psalm 121. It's quite short and quite nice.
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This is alternately hilarious and grotesque.
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This is alternately hilarious and grotesque.
Very true. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif) ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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If this was made today, I would LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, to see Shoutin' Bill Donohue explode in uncontrollable rage.
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I know we've all seen something like this before, but I think this space-flight lunacy bears revisiting.
The launch begins at 1:15 and dissolves into an orgy of fireworks at 2:25. The ominous horns, skirling strings, and monster-movie organ chords at 1:45, while rising to the level of self-parody, still make one wonder whether some fake-bearded, god-the-father apparition will appear over the whole scene.
Can anyone identify the score for me?
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It's Symphony Number 3 (the Organ Symphony) by Saint-Saens.
My first reaction on seeing the flying thurible was "Tie me to a pig and paint my bottom blue™, has anyone ever been killed doing that?"
Wonderful music though.
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Originally posted by BillyPilgrim:
It's Symphony Number 3 (the Organ Symphony) by Saint-Saens.
My first reaction on seeing the flying thurible was "Tie me to a pig and paint my bottom blue™, has anyone ever been killed doing that?"
Wonderful music though.
Oh, yes... the music! I could tell that it was awfully familiar!
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The PBS travel-show host Burt Wolf did a whole show on pilgrimages in Santiago, which featured that same wrecking-ball thurible. The priests told him that if they heave or ho even a little off-rhythm it could easily take out the altar or some pilgrims.
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It's Symphony Number 3 (the Organ Symphony) by Saint-Saens.
My first reaction on seeing the flying thurible was "Tie me to a pig and paint my bottom blue™, has anyone ever been killed doing that?"
Wonderful music though.
Speaking of pigs, that's the theme song from the first "Babe" movie. I had no idea it came from someplace else.
And isn't this the second time on this thread that we've seen a video of a giant killer thurible from Spain? Is that a thing there, generally, or was the first video from the same church, does anybody know?
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TubaMirum
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Here's a pretty wonderful video, from ESPN, of all places: "Andrea Jaeger Called to Serve: Former tennis phenom now serving God as an Episcopal Nun."
No music, but an amazing story. Just click the link and a popup window will load the video.
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Originally posted by BillyPilgrim:
It's Symphony Number 3 (the Organ Symphony) by Saint-Saens.
My first reaction on seeing the flying thurible was "Tie me to a pig and paint my bottom blue™, has anyone ever been killed doing that?"
Wonderful music though.
Speaking of pigs, that's the theme song from the first "Babe" movie. I had no idea it came from someplace else.
And isn't this the second time on this thread that we've seen a video of a giant killer thurible from Spain? Is that a thing there, generally, or was the first video from the same church, does anybody know?
Exactly my thoughts on the music! It's one of my favorite tunes, and it sounds wonderful in the original.
I look forward to seeing your video and wonder why I don't get to see it on ESPN locally.
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I look forward to seeing your video and wonder why I don't get to see it on ESPN locally.
Did you mean you couldn't see it on the link I gave? Sometimes you have to set your browser to accept popups.
Or did you mean on TV? I didn't see it there, either - no cable - but I think it's pretty recent. It's really quite amazing, because it says that she gave literally all the money she made playing tennis away.
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Originally posted by BillyPilgrim:
It's Symphony Number 3 (the Organ Symphony) by Saint-Saens.
My first reaction on seeing the flying thurible was "Tie me to a pig and paint my bottom blue™, has anyone ever been killed doing that?"
Wonderful music though.
I don't think anyone's been killed, but the ropes snapped and the thing flew out of a window when Catherine of Aragon visited Compostela.
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So pretty
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So pretty
Bravo! What a performance!
He picks the perfect moment to leave the altar and get a slurp of water, too.
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So pretty
Max
At first, I thought: why is this man singing like a third-rate peformer in a fourth-rate Sondheim show?
Then I thought: oh, I see. This was proved to be accurate.
Thirdly, I thought: why am I reminded of this?
Fourthly, I thought: Max has no taste at all.
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Come on, don't be so harsh! Listen at the point of the Epiklesis! It's so dramatic!
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I don't think they are being harsh. It's a rather nice setting. I quite like it. However, it should be more intoned than sung in amateur operatic style, andI'm afraid he was doing the latter. I can see what they're going for and it seems to be an excellent idea but executed extremely poorly. The priest needs to step back a little and not try to be the heart of what is happening. I think that less of a dramatic attempt would also help alleviate his tickly throat.
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Doesn't the use of the organ as a continuo violate some GIRM standard?
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Yes it does. My parish violates this GIRM every Sunday as it uses Haugen's Mass of Creation setting of EPIII.
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Doesn't the use of the organ as a continuo violate some GIRM standard?
You win a sweetie!
Chapter II, Section ii, Paragraph 32:
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32. The nature of the "presidential" texts demands that they be spoken in a loud and clear voice and that everyone listen with attention.44 Thus, while the priest is speaking these texts, there should be no other prayers or singing, and the organ or other musical instruments should be silent.
The "presidential texts" are quote:
the Eucharistic Prayer, which is the high point of the entire celebration. Next are the orations: that is to say, the collect, the prayer over the offerings, and the prayer after Communion. These prayers are addressed to God in the name of the entire holy people and all present, by the priest who presides over the assembly in the person of Christ.43 It is with good reason, therefore, that they are called the "presidential prayers."
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No one seems to have posted this, which Saint Bertelin sent to me some time ago and to which I have become attached.
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No one seems to have posted this, which Saint Bertelin sent to me some time ago and to which I have become attached.
I see your Angelus, and raise you a Paternoster .
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