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That IS my parish,I'm a server there.And it is nice.the choir's on vacation until next week,but we've had some lovely music.I've kept the service sheets.(And before anyone says anything,we did sing the propers also.we always do.)
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SeraphimSarov
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Originally posted by St.Silas the carter:
That IS my parish,I'm a server there.And it is nice.the choir's on vacation until next week,but we've had some lovely music.I've kept the service sheets.(And before anyone says anything,we did sing the propers also.we always do.)
Wonderful! I would love to attend there sometime. Who is the cantor on the video?? He has a great voice.
Actually, I thought the hymn was perfectly attuned to the Offertory as well as beautiful in that setting.
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Originally posted by SeraphimSarov:
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Originally posted by St.Silas the carter:
That IS my parish,I'm a server there.And it is nice.the choir's on vacation until next week,but we've had some lovely music.I've kept the service sheets.(And before anyone says anything,we did sing the propers also.we always do.)
Wonderful! I would love to attend there sometime. Who is the cantor on the video?? He has a great voice.
Actually, I thought the hymn was perfectly attuned to the Offertory as well as beautiful in that setting.
I think it was Mr.mark bradford,Our choral director.And I do love that hymn sung to rockingham.
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This made my day today. There are Episcopal, RC, and many other versions, but the Lutheran was my fave.
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SeraphimSarov
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Miss Betty is the diva of divas! "Martin Luther was a Catholic priest who had just about had it and I know that feeling! So he wrote 95 things on the wall and went on a diet of worms. You know that takes real committment to just eat worms.............for the LORD!!!!!!!!!"
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Originally posted by SeraphimSarov:
Miss Betty is the diva of divas! "Martin Luther was a Catholic priest who had just about had it and I know that feeling! So he wrote 95 things on the wall and went on a diet of worms. You know that takes real committment to just eat worms.............for the LORD!!!!!!!!!"
Mrs. Betty Butterfield is no fan of Tudor liturgical English: "I didn't study Shakespeare! How am I supposed to interpret all that?" She's priceless.
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Originally posted by SeraphimSarov:
Miss Betty is the diva of divas! "Martin Luther was a Catholic priest who had just about had it and I know that feeling! So he wrote 95 things on the wall and went on a diet of worms. You know that takes real committment to just eat worms.............for the LORD!!!!!!!!!"
She certainly does break down in tears at the best times. The taperer with the burning hair was a hoot, too.
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SeraphimSarov
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Originally posted by Liturgy Queen:
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Originally posted by SeraphimSarov:
Miss Betty is the diva of divas! "Martin Luther was a Catholic priest who had just about had it and I know that feeling! So he wrote 95 things on the wall and went on a diet of worms. You know that takes real committment to just eat worms.............for the LORD!!!!!!!!!"
She certainly does break down in tears at the best times. The taperer with the burning hair was a hoot, too.
You can't beat her crying and speaking in tongues. Did you see her one on the Buddhists and wondering if instead of incense, she could use Febreze??? ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Max.'s mention on another thread of a Youtube video with a eucharistic prayer he found dodgy sent me looking for it. I'm suspecting this is the one he meant. I've got to say, at the beginning it struck me simply as silly. But when he gets to the consecration, around 4:30, it becomes hilarious -- it sounds like someone on acid trying to be express the kind of profound insights one has when under the effects of hallucinogens.
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I found the picture displayed in the background after "take..eat...me" to be interesting!
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Never let it be said that there's any connexion between westward celebration and crap liturgy.
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And people say the Traditional Language is opaque.
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I'm curious to know from our brethren and sistren from across the pond: is it only in America that "eat me" is an insulting retort?
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'Eat me' is also an insult over here!
I'm sorry but that was truly awful. Having come from the Charismatic movement, and now entering the Orthodox church, this DIY liturgy was like a car crash of my past and present.
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Okay, so I got to this by a strange route (Traditional Anglicans asking for corporate union with Rome), but it covers many current threads (sung Angelus, cottas, bowing the head).
I must admit I found it, well, creepy to be honest ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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Originally posted by Triple Tiara:
Okay, so I got to this by a strange route (Traditional Anglicans asking for corporate union with Rome), but it covers many current threads (sung Angelus, cottas, bowing the head).
I must admit I found it, well, creepy to be honest
You've gotta give them credit for that awesome mitre, though!
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But where was the genuflection?!
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Originally posted by Triple Tiara:
Okay, so I got to this by a strange route (Traditional Anglicans asking for corporate union with Rome), but it covers many current threads (sung Angelus, cottas, bowing the head).
I must admit I found it, well, creepy to be honest
Well, they don't seem to be very happy, do they??
Rome should be cautious.
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The video on that site shows the combination of a bishop wearing a dalmatic, acting as deacon of the mass, yet still wearing a mitre. It's right, but unusual.
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Bunch 'o Loons! Did you notice the deacon's tonsure (which I have it on good authority he trims himself)?
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The video on that site shows the combination of a bishop wearing a dalmatic, acting as deacon of the mass, yet still wearing a mitre. It's right, but unusual.
Actually, the bishop is wearing the dalmatic under his chasuble, so he's not acting as deacon, but as celebrant in full pontificals.
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Originally posted by Triple Tiara:
Okay, so I got to this by a strange route (Traditional Anglicans asking for corporate union with Rome), but it covers many current threads (sung Angelus, cottas, bowing the head).
I must admit I found it, well, creepy to be honest
I agree - and what horrid music!
Is St Agatha's the only real church they have? I see there are only 5 'parishes' in the UK; one meets in a scout hut, one in a nursing home and the other two prefer not to say...
A salutary lesson against schism IMHO
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What ever happened to that really loony Leslie "the Mad" Hamlett? He signed the initial petition for the pastoral provision, but ended up going into episcopi vagantes cuckoo-land. A lot of these English continuing church types are just like that - they are unordainable even if the English episcopate were all Kurt Krenn klones.
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What ever happened to that really loony Leslie "the Mad" Hamlett? He signed the initial petition for the pastoral provision, but ended up going into episcopi vagantes cuckoo-land. A lot of these English continuing church types are just like that - they are unordainable even if the English episcopate were all Kurt Krenn klones.
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Originally posted by My Duck:
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Originally posted by Triple Tiara:
Okay, so I got to this by a strange route (Traditional Anglicans asking for corporate union with Rome), but it covers many current threads (sung Angelus, cottas, bowing the head).
I must admit I found it, well, creepy to be honest
I agree - and what horrid music!
Is St Agatha's the only real church they have? I see there are only 5 'parishes' in the UK; one meets in a scout hut, one in a nursing home and the other two prefer not to say...
A salutary lesson against schism IMHO
The primary reason that the TAC have only five parishes in the UK is that the Church of England is one of the very, very few Anglican places to have accommodated those unable to accept the ordination of women. The Act of Synod made it all seem unnecessary to the majority.
+Mercer was, apparently, an excellent bishop when he was in Africa. I doubt that has changed.
I was rather surprised not to see a single woman 'covered' (i.e., wearing a head-covering of some variety).
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Originally posted by JArthurCrank:
What ever happened to that really loony Leslie "the Mad" Hamlett? He signed the initial petition for the pastoral provision, but ended up going into episcopi vagantes cuckoo-land. A lot of these English continuing church types are just like that - they are unordainable even if the English episcopate were all Kurt Krenn klones.
http://www.holy-catholic-church-wr.org/
As of 2006. Wot larks!
Well, they want to evangelise Sweden! What could be better??? ![[Razz]](tongue.gif) ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif)
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Originally posted by SeraphimSarov:
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Originally posted by Archimandrite:
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Originally posted by JArthurCrank:
What ever happened to that really loony Leslie "the Mad" Hamlett? He signed the initial petition for the pastoral provision, but ended up going into episcopi vagantes cuckoo-land. A lot of these English continuing church types are just like that - they are unordainable even if the English episcopate were all Kurt Krenn klones.
http://www.holy-catholic-church-wr.org/
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Well, they want to evangelise Sweden! What could be better???
Isn't S. Ansgar going to be rather miffed when they tell him?
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Originally posted by Triple Tiara:
Okay, so I got to this by a strange route (Traditional Anglicans asking for corporate union with Rome), but it covers many current threads (sung Angelus, cottas, bowing the head).
I must admit I found it, well, creepy to be honest
I didn't feel it was so bad except for the overbowing (like to the processional crucifix at the beginning) and the initial Ave Maria. I dislike that setting. And maybe if they had stayed slightly more in tune.
Out of curiosity, why did the priest kneel with the servers for the blessing of the incense?
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I saw and wondered that, too. Not having Fortescue to hand (S. Bertelin, could you remove it from under your desk?), I wondered if it was simply a case that he wasn't used to assisting at a pontifical mass and simply followed the servers out of nervousness.
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Back when I was an altar server in Diocese X, the thurifurs knelt before the bishop at the throne while he was putting incense in the thurible. This was in the novus ordo - I don't know if that cathedral still does it.
The only thing that was creepy was the horrible Gounoud/Bach Ave Maria. On first hearing, I wondered what that unearthly screeching could possibly be and why that was at all tolerated and then understood as they panned in on the poor epicine 14 year old - a voice that only a mother or a pederast could love. ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
The other negative was that the Marian devotions NEVER ENDED. That was complete overkill - no need for Ave Maria, then Angelus, then low mass leonine prayers at high mass then all of the Mary's dowry stuff, and on and on and on.
Otherwise, I'm glad that TAC has brought that historic parish back from the grave - even if there are only 10-20 parishioners. Wasn't that Father Dolling's parish? And, do they actually engage in ministry or are they just playing church?
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Patronal Festival High Mass at St Peter's Eastern Hill in the presence of six bishops!
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Why are the bishops all in copes and mitres? Am I misremembering in thinking that, if they're not concelebrating, the 'other five' should be in choir dress?
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So I'm finally about to see what the much-vaunted S. Clement's ceremonial - even if it's not the full thing yet.
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Is it high! Salutations to the choir! But I wish some of the gestures - signs of the cross, breast beating - particularly of the subdeacon - were a little more natural.
Among the parts I found amusing was the choir member briefly rubbing his nose with the back of his surplice and the deacon looking out of the corner of his eyes from under his biretta at "Domine Deus Agnus Dei Filius Patris" ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Having looked at a couple of the St.Clement's videos, I can say with confidence:
1) the music is beautiful
2) I have no desire to worship in such a manner
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Hm...
Like:
*It's quite small, isn't it?
*Golly, the organ's vast!
*Nice tat.
*Choir's alright, but the sop's a bit sharp.
Don't like:
*Choir and orchestra at the front.
*Old men servers.
*Saluting a non-liturgical choir.
*Subdeacon just looked a bit embarrassed, really.
*Liturgical gestures all a bit forced and "and-slap-slap-slap-stop-one-two-three", instead of naturaly and flowing.
*Too much lace on the servers.
Interested by:
*Not a particularly conservatively-dressed congregation.
*Not that many ladies covered, but good to see the female choristers covered.
*Choristers singing from scrappy sheets of paper, rather than hymnals or nice folders.
*Not that many there full stop.
*Subdeacon can't sing very nicely.
All in all:
Most of the big Novus Ordo tatfests I've been to were better (plaudits to you, S. Silas, Kentish Town).
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Well, I had a suit on, but given that it was June and SCC isn't air conditioned, please forgive the less stalwart brethren for their sartorial compromises. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Well, I had a suit on, but given that it was June and SCC isn't air conditioned, please forgive the less stalwart brethren for their sartorial compromises.
Shurely y'all wear white linen suits and bowties? Don't shatter my cherished images!
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I'm sure more than the usual S. Clement's members are checking out our opinions. Since I have the opportunity, I just wanted to thank you for this and for the audio podcasts.
I usually prefer something that can only be described as Solemn High Novus Ordo (if indeed that even exists), but the S. Clement liturgies also interest me. I like the occasional variety--for instance, sometimes Silent Canon, sometimes spoken.
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Still waiting for the rest of the Mass to be posted. How long, O Lord?
(Am I the only one who's actually falling in love with the audio attack on the homepage)? ![[Paranoid]](graemlins/paranoid.gif)
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A really nice examples of some Easter Vigil Baptisms
Certainly a lot of joy at the service!
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I'm not too sure about the 'Roman slave' look.
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A really nice examples of some Easter Vigil Baptisms
Certainly a lot of joy at the service!
That really freaks me out, I'm scared of water as it is, and the thought of being dunked BACKWARDS like that scares the life out of me!
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Still waiting for the rest of the Mass to be posted. How long, O Lord?
More of the S. Clement's Mass video is supposed to be up in the next month or so at the following link:
Saint Clement's Church: High Mass of Corpus Christi.
Also, the entire Mass will be available on DVD before all of the individual chapters are posted to the website.
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Is it high! Salutations to the choir! But I wish some of the gestures - signs of the cross, breast beating - particularly of the subdeacon - were a little more natural.
This is the problem I had watching the video from St Clement's from Corpus Christi- it just seems more like a pretty performance which I can appreciate aesthetically but not as worship at Mass. The gestures are just too theatrical and I have to say that I appreciate the beauty of a Tridentine High Mass.
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I hope no one has posted this before:
Confession in the 21st Century
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