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Firenze
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Originally posted by PeteC:
I'm not giving up the Queen, not for anyone!
I'm sure she feels the same way about you.
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Sober Preacher's Kid
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Originally posted by PeteC:
I'm not giving up the Queen, not for anyone!
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Will you still feel the same way when we put Jug Ears on the Twenty when Brenda shuffles off this mortal coil?
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Originally posted by les@BALM:
Maybe there should be Job swaps for HOS, the US can have Harper and we have Obama, I'm sure both countries would be happier with that arrangement.
Acknowledging the comment that the Prime Minister is NOT the Head of State for Canada, I am quite happy with Harper over Obama.
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Drifting Star
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Originally posted by Firenze:
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Originally posted by PeteC:
I'm not giving up the Queen, not for anyone!
I'm sure she feels the same way about you.
I've never heard her say a bad word about Pete.
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Ut unum sint
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Originally posted by Sober Preacher's Kid:
The price of your salvation is a little grovelling. ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
And you'll have to learn to speak more gratefully of His Late Majesty George III.
Making every city, town, village and hamlet in the Lost Provinces have one of: King Street, Queen Street, George Street or Charlotte Street would be a good start.
Every settlement in Ontario has one of the above.
Half the towns in Virginia have those already. AND we were named for Her Late Majesty Queen Elizabeth I (the Virgin Queen).
stop snickering back there!
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Originally posted by Silver Faux:
Three Chopped Presbyterian Church in Virginia,
The name of that church harkens back to colonial days when the trail was marked (or "blazed") with a set of three marks chopped into the trees along the path. Three Chopped Trail is now US 250 running from Richmond to Charlottesville.
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Originally posted by Sober Preacher's Kid:
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Originally posted by PeteC:
I'm not giving up the Queen, not for anyone!
Will you still feel the same way when we put Jug Ears on the Twenty when Brenda shuffles off this mortal coil?
While I think it's a whole nother thread, I have always had no difficulty with the notion of His Chasness on the throne. He's kinda quaint, out there, but a kool dood really.
And I'm sure he'd eradicate those bloody 4 Way Stops! ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Originally posted by Campbellite:
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Originally posted by Silver Faux:
Three Chopped Presbyterian Church in Virginia,
The name of that church harkens back to colonial days when the trail was marked (or "blazed") with a set of three marks chopped into the trees along the path. Three Chopped Trail is now US 250 running from Richmond to Charlottesville.
So it wasn't named after the fate of the first three ministers to serve the congregation?
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Sober Preacher's Kid
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Originally posted by Zappa:
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Originally posted by Sober Preacher's Kid:
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Originally posted by PeteC:
I'm not giving up the Queen, not for anyone!
Will you still feel the same way when we put Jug Ears on the Twenty when Brenda shuffles off this mortal coil?
While I think it's a whole nother thread, I have always had no difficulty with the notion of His Chasness on the throne. He's kinda quaint, out there, but a kool dood really.
And I'm sure he'd eradicate those bloody 4 Way Stops!
I'm getting a hankering for chopped kiwi....
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HughWillRidmee
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Originally posted by Zappa:
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Originally posted by Sober Preacher's Kid:
Will you still feel the same way when we put Jug Ears on the Twenty when Brenda shuffles off this mortal coil?
While I think it's a whole nother thread, I have always had no difficulty with the notion of His Chasness on the throne. He's kinda quaint, out there, but a kool dood really.
And I'm sure he'd eradicate those bloody 4 Way Stops!
Many of us think he's a family-sized pork pie short of a picnic - his active support for CAM is both silly and dangerous.
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I'm so glad we can have acronyms that most of us don't recognise. It gives us that sense of wonder and mystery.
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Quote: Many of us think he's a family-sized pork pie short of a picnic
I had always thought of him as being one tine short of a pitchfork
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If/When Charlie ascends the throne, IIRC, he may choose any of his Christian names as his Throne name. It is possible that he could be King Arthur.
My money says he will choose to be King George VI, assuming he outlives mummy.
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Originally posted by Campbellite:
If/When Charlie ascends the throne, IIRC, he may choose any of his Christian names as his Throne name. It is possible that he could be King Arthur.
My money says he will choose to be King George VI, assuming he outlives mummy.
King George died in 1952, so he would become George VII, though Charles III is more likely.
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Originally posted by Campbellite:
If/When Charlie ascends the throne, IIRC, he may choose any of his Christian names as his Throne name. It is possible that he could be King Arthur.
My money says he will choose to be King George VI, assuming he outlives mummy.
King George VI died in 1952, so he would become George VII, though Charles III is more likely.
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If he is superstitious over names not to choose Charles then he won't take Arthur, it has a worse reputation than Charles. At least the Charles got to reign the Arthur's died before ascending(and he is not the only one).
Jengie.
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I've a vague recollection of hearing years ago that he wouldn't be Charles III, but I don't recall them saying what name he would take. If it isn't to be Charles III, I'd put my money on George VII rather than Arthur or, Heaven forfend, Philip I.
As Campbellite says, it rather depends on his outliving Brenda ... ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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les@BALM
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If Charles doesn't feel he will be popular or not wanted by his subjects I suspect he will walk away and England/Scotland/Wales and NI will become republics.
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As I think that the Norman Invasion was an umitigated disaster for the English folk, I think Harold II would be a great choice. ![[Two face]](graemlins/scot_twoface.gif)
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Firenze
Ordinary decent pagan
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I think you have to go with a name you've already got.
Victoria had a choice between that, and Alexandrina.
Of course, if you really wanted a Harold, you could work your way down the line of succession until you hit lucky. After all, George I was something like fifty-fourth in line (the preceding 53 were all too papistical).
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Christian Agnostic
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Originally posted by Firenze:
Of course, if you really wanted a Harold, you could work your way down the line of succession until you hit lucky. After all, George I was something like fifty-fourth in line (the preceding 53 were all too papistical).
Yah, maybe some taxi driver in Sheffield.
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Christian Agnostic
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Originally posted by iGeek:
If this bloke is right, it'll be the other way 'round.
Boy, this guy is clueless about America culture ![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif) Let's see (southern) Virginia. The Carolinas, Kentucky and Tennessee joining with YANKEES, what planet is this guy from? ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif)
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Originally posted by Christian Agnostic:
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Originally posted by iGeek:
If this bloke is right, it'll be the other way 'round.
Boy, this guy is clueless about America culture Let's see (southern) Virginia. The Carolinas, Kentucky and Tennessee joining with YANKEES, what planet is this guy from?
Not so, CA; he is just looking at it differently. At a time in my life (pre-mortgage), I was able to travel abroad for recreation and was taking a week in the Turks and Caicos Islands. At the breakfast buffet, my dashing companion carefully avoided the grits and took a local dish and a fellow snorkeller, from the southern US, grinned at this and commented that "You yankees can't take grits." "Ah," she replied, "I'm Canadian and, where I'm from, you're all Yankees."
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lilBuddha
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Originally posted by iGeek:
If this bloke is right, it'll be the other way 'round.
Looks at calender, re-reads portion of article, double checks calender. Hmmmm, either his time-line is off or I haven't paid proper attention to the news. He predicted the US would split apart by June, 2010. It hasn't yet, has it? I mean, I can be a bit out of touch at times, but I think I would have caught that on the telly by now...
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I'm wondering if he's getting his residuals for "Jericho"
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Sober Preacher's Kid
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Originally posted by Christian Agnostic:
As I think that the Norman Invasion was an umitigated disaster for the English folk, I think Harold II would be a great choice.
Kings before the Norman Invasion don't count numerically. That's why Edward the Confessor was followed in due time by Edward I (Longshanks).
Scottish Kings are supposed to count and the number is supposed to be the highest reached in either kingdom's list, but since the Scots always had a King James for the last few centuries it's never worked out in practice. In fact a number of Scots got quite angry and blew up mailboxes with "EIIR" in Scotland. Numerically Her Grace is merely Elizabeth north of the Border.
A Malcolm V, David III or Alexander IV would be interesting, but the possibility remains remote.
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Originally posted by Sober Preacher's Kid:
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Originally posted by Christian Agnostic:
As I think that the Norman Invasion was an umitigated disaster for the English folk, I think Harold II would be a great choice.
Kings before the Norman Invasion don't count numerically.
There's another way to count? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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Sober Preacher's Kid
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[Pedantry]
The numbering of Kings of England starts with William the Conqueror. If a name like Edward was used by Anglo-Saxon kings before 1066, it doesn't affect the numbering and is ignored for the purposes of counting.
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Horseman Bree
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Even though he won the crown by right of conquest, Henry Tudor was careful to point out his descent from previous royals, in order to be sure there would not be civil war.
The Hanoverians were also in the line of descent from the gang after 1066
So the succession was direct from William, but not so direct from before that.
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Christian Agnostic
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Just as I thought, The Normans have been the enemy within. ![[Paranoid]](graemlins/paranoid.gif)
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les@BALM
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The Republic of England under the Cromwellian Commonwealth doesn't seem to get much of a mention these days, perhaps Charles III will revive the idea of a new Commonwealth and Republic.
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Originally posted by fausto:
Canada would come in as way more than just one state. They have ten provinces, plus some territories. Even if Quebec opted out (which would be likely), there would be at least six or seven new blue states and the Senate would no longer be burdened with filibusters.
Would Alberta be a blue or a red state I wonder?
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Infrared.
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Christian Agnostic
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If you guys joined us, passing universal health care would be a cinch. Also you wouldn't have to worry about currency exchange when you invade Florida and Arizona in the winter. Another benefit would be that you would learn the correct rules for playing football
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ToujoursDan
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Originally posted by malik3000:
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Originally posted by fausto:
Canada would come in as way more than just one state. They have ten provinces, plus some territories. Even if Quebec opted out (which would be likely), there would be at least six or seven new blue states and the Senate would no longer be burdened with filibusters.
Would Alberta be a blue or a red state I wonder?
Alberta is a blue (Conservative) province with a few orange (NDP) ridings in downtown Edmonton, but if you compared the policies (tho' not the rhetoric) of the Conservative Party with the major U.S. parties, they tend to lie in the mainstream to conservative Democrat range. They endorse Canadian Medicare (universal healthcare) though want to privatize parts of it; the Great Recession stimulus package wasn't as controversial as in the U.S.; they are against gay marriage but for civil unions and they generally stay away from the abortion debate. The only thing I can think of that could tip Alberta into the red (Republican) camp would be energy and environmental policy. Alberta is what it is mostly because of the oil sands. Once they deplete or were judged too dirty to use, it would be just another agricultural or cattle ranging state. So anything that is seen to be hostile to the Oil Sands (including any measure to move away from oil use) would be fiercely opposed. If Alberta was a U.S. state, it would probably be a solid blue (Democratic) or a blue leaning swing state with progressive tendencies like an Iowa or Wisconsin.
Also, it's important to remember that there are over a million francophones (French speakers) OUTSIDE Québec that enjoy official minority status in Canada today. French is an official language in New Brunswick and has official minority language status in Ontario and Manitoba. There are French speaking public institutions (public schools, cultural centres) throughout the country. The CBC/Radio-Canada has French language radio and TV stations from coast to coast to coast and French speakers legally should be able to walk into any federal government institution anywhere in the country and be addressed in French (a legacy of Trudeau). So even if Québec didn't join the U.S., there would still be issues of what to do about minority (French) language in a unified country. They aren't likely to just fade away and these people aren't likely to just passively cede their rights away.
The Canadian federal government also supports the linguistic and cultural identities of aboriginal people and the Inuit to a much, much greater degree than in the U.S. and they have far more visibility. It's very difficult to envisage how those communities would enjoy the cultural support they currently have in a unified nation. Americans tend to expect minorities to assimilate to a [more-or-less] common American culture, where Canadians are far more comfortable with a far more diverse multiculturalism. I find it difficult to believe that U.S. taxpayers would fund minority language and cultural institutions to the degree that they are funded in Canada, and I think that these minority groups would lose out if the countries merged, particularly if Québec didn't join.
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Originally posted by Christian Agnostic:
...you would learn the correct rules for playing football
Soccer is what you call it, the rest of the world calls it football. Canadian rules football (what you call football) is slightly more easy to understand than your football.
And why should we go through the agony of passing universal health care, again? We've had it for nearly 50 years. AFAICS it is one major reason NOT to join with USA.
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...and the NRA.
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Originally posted by Christian Agnostic:
If you guys joined us, passing universal health care would be a cinch. Also you wouldn't have to worry about currency exchange when you invade Florida and Arizona in the winter. Another benefit would be that you would learn the correct rules for playing football
Quit whining about health care. You got the Massachusetts Plan, aka the Auto Insurance Version of healthcare passed. Actually, under this plan Americans get better coverage for drugs than Canucks do.
Nobody cares about the exchange anymore since the Loonie hit par and has stuck there.
Besides, I prefer a three-down passing game instead of a four-down running game.
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Why would anyone watch (or play) a game that has about 30 seconds of action followed by several minutes of milling around, with announcers trying to find something to say?
If you want "down time", watch cricket or baseball; if you want action, watch real football (soccer, if you must). Even curling has more going on than NFL/CFL stuff.
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ToujoursDan
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The best balance between action and the release of an actual score is still found in Aussie rules and rugby. Soccer football gives me blue balls.
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Christian Agnostic
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Originally posted by Horseman Bree:
Why would anyone watch (or play) a game that has about 30 seconds of action followed by several minutes of milling around, with announcers trying to find something to say?
If you want "down time", watch cricket or baseball; if you want action, watch real football (soccer, if you must). Even curling has more going on than NFL/CFL stuff.
Hey, lay off baseball ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif) I played it all my life, even getting a College scholarship. I don't care if itsn't fun to watch, it's great fun to play. Anyway Basketball and soccer are for folks with attention deficit disorder.
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People of Colour then?
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Christian Agnostic
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Originally posted by Sober Preacher's Kid:
People of Colour then?
No! My friends of "color" are baseball and fooball fans. Let's not take this conversation down to Hell. I hope you're not playing the racist card. My black/brown/asian friends agree with white me that hockey is boring.
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For those States who wished to join the Kingdom of Canada, get used to an earlier Thanksgiving.
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Or Boxing Day. Two days off at Christmas is nice.
I worked at a Call Centre for a while that took American calls. We had to work an American schedule.
It sucked.
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NDP Federal Convention Ottawa 2018: A random assortment of Prots and Trots.
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les@BALM
The Ship's Visionary
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Sober, dead right. The irony is that the US is the most religous country in the West, but doesn't give its citizens the time off to celebrate their faith. Perhaps their real god is mammon.
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il sole d'Italia mi è rimasto nel cure
Italia campioni del mondo ****
Tiggs the cat.
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