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Tea gnome
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Where would you look for information on UK waters? It's information such as tidalness, currentyness, and shippingyness that I'd be interested in. Is there somewhere like the met office but for the sea?

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UK tides according to the BBC. It also has links to the shipping forecast (also available on Radio4 IIRC), inshore water & coastal forecasts, sea temperatures and other such links.

This site also seems to have some potentially useful links, as does this .

No idea about how you find out about shippingyness though!

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Tea gnome
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Brilliant, thanks [Smile]

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kingsfold

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So what are you planning?

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Tea gnome
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Planning? Moi? *assumes look of calculated innocence*
Just looking and thinking for now [Biased]

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Jack the Lass

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So, evil MS Word (*spit*). I somehow seem to have managed to switch something on that I can't switch off, and because I don't know what it's called I can't search for it in the help section. Basically in every space there's a • and every time I enter there's a ¶, which makes it really difficult to read. What is that called, and how the hell do I switch it off again?

(I was typing and must have leant on one of the control or alt keys or something in the middle of my word, as it suddenly just appeared, and now it is the default state for all documents [Help] [brick wall] )

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Which edition of word?

In Word 2007, under the 'Home' tab, there is a button with the symbol-which-you're-getting-when-you-press-enter on it, which turns the feature on and off. It also works via Ctrl key plus enter key plus 8/* key.

It's labelled as "show/hide paragraph marks and other hidden formatting symbols" so I'd use that as your basis for searching Help if you've got an older version of Word and the above options don't work.

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Tea gnome
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It's in the 'paragraph' section. (sorry, I have different version) but one of them (in the drop down list) should have that backwards P symbol on it, and that will click off the punctuation markers.

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Zoey

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(I believe the feature is designed for the benefit of people wot are having to type things very, very perfectly for neat final copy and therefore need to check they haven't e.g.accidentally put two spaces rather than one between some words, etc.)

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It's also useful when there's some wonky bit of formatting in that's making a mess of things that you need to find and delete to allow your absent sanity to return.

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Curiosity killed ...

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I have the formatting tool on all the time when using Word because you can see what else is there. It winds most other people up and I try to remember to turn it off before e-mailing a document back.

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RooK

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The formatting marks in Word were the only way an anally retentive person (such as myself) could stand to use it. Sure, it's fine for pounding out blocks of prose, but then so is the text editor. No, the formatting is the thing, and Word keeps Trying To Help, and by doing so often gets in the way - the format marks reveal the underlying issues definitively instead of having to guess at them.

Or something. I've actually abandoned Word. And word processing as much as possible, to be truthful.

Most of the time, I concentrate on the simple text. When I need to care about formatting, I use HTML. When I need to worry about it being printed on horrifically inefficient sections of smashed and bleached wood pulp, I export to PDF. Fuck you, Word, and your hateful pandering to smooth-brained morons and your multitude of crimes against aesthetics and functionality.

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I should have posted this instead.
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Zappa
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quote:
Originally posted by mountainsnowtiger:
(I believe the feature is designed for the benefit of people wot are having to type things very, very perfectly for neat final copy and therefore need to check they haven't e.g.accidentally put two spaces rather than one between some words, etc.)

Yup, tiger, that's my understanding of it: - JacktheLass, I used it often in the late stages of presentation-checking my thesis (I use 2002, though, where I turn it on and off on the Options tag). But you're right, it can totally throw the pagination if you are working in Print View, and can play absolute havoc with footnotes, indexes and things. One such error caused my supervisor from hell to throw many "fucking idiot what have you done" epithets my way [Tear]

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Jack the Lass

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Thanks everyone, that's really helpful.
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Originally posted by RooK:
I should have posted this instead.

Funnily enough that's exactly what TME says each time I've asked him something techy since the cartoon appeared [Smile]

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BroJames
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quote:
Originally posted by mountainsnowtiger:
get some kind of bed-frame, costing as little as possible (*keeps an eye on ebay*), at some point in the next few weeks or months.)

Or look at your nearby Freecycle group...
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Galloping Granny
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Do old posts disappear altogether into cyberspace?

My daughter's fallen prey to a conspiracy theory about children's vaccinations. I'd have loved to refer her to a thread on the subject (The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few – in Purg 21 December 2008) but it no longer exists.
Or does it?

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Jengie jon

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It is cached here by Google

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[ 04. September 2009, 11:39: Message edited by: Jengie Jon ]

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Sparrow
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quote:
Originally posted by RooK:
The formatting marks in Word were the only way an anally retentive person (such as myself) could stand to use it. Sure, it's fine for pounding out blocks of prose, but then so is the text editor. No, the formatting is the thing, and Word keeps Trying To Help, and by doing so often gets in the way - the format marks reveal the underlying issues definitively instead of having to guess at them.


WordPerfect (remember that?) used to have one very simple key "reveal codes" which switched all those marks off and on.

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Jack the Lass

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I was only thinking yesterday how vastly superior WordPerfect always was to Word - even now I'd take the DOS version of WordPerfect in a heartbeat over Word. Ah happy days, when I never wanted to throw the computer at the wall like I do All The Damn Time now.

(and before anyone says OpenOffice, actually I tried it for a couple of months earlier in the year on the recommendation of more than one Shipmate and found it even worse than Word).

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Uncle Pete

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Robert Armin in AS:

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I've got a study full of books to clear. A lot of them are left over from old GCSE and A Level courses; they are good scholarship but a little dated now (Barrett on John, for example). It seems a shame to throw them away, but I can't use them at all. Does anyone know an institution that might be glad to have them?


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Zappa
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quote:
Originally posted by Jack the Lass:
I was only thinking yesterday how vastly superior WordPerfect always was to Word ...

I was always (always!) a Wordstar person myself. Wordstar for DOS. Then someone came out with some sort of Windowy thing and I though "what a bunch of crap that is ... it'll never take off" (I thought the same about CDs when they hit the shops [Roll Eyes] )

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Ariel
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quote:
Originally posted by Jack the Lass:
I was only thinking yesterday how vastly superior WordPerfect always was to Word - even now I'd take the DOS version of WordPerfect in a heartbeat over Word. Ah happy days, when I never wanted to throw the computer at the wall like I do All The Damn Time now.

I agree with you. I knew where I was with WordPerfect. I don't know which version of Word you're running, but the latest version that comes with that blasted ribbon is driving me up the wall.
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A question for all you toy railway addicts from a concerned Smudgelet. Does anyone know whether the move by Hornby towards digital systems will mean that his current track and trains will be obsolete and that any new ones he buys in the future will be incompatible with them? Dare he keep expanding his collection or would he be better to save his money and start only collecting digital ones?

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Sparrow
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Does anyone have any advice about how to get a leather jacket cleaned? I know the usual dry cleaners won't touch it, it needs a special process which is very expensive. I tried a couple of places today and they even advised against trying to get it cleaned at all.

So is it worth it - or is there anything I can do myself to make it look better? It's not very dirty, just starting to look a bit shabby.

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Emma Louise

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quote:
Originally posted by The Galloping Granny:
Do old posts disappear altogether into cyberspace?

My daughter's fallen prey to a conspiracy theory about children's vaccinations. I'd have loved to refer her to a thread on the subject (The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few – in Purg 21 December 2008) but it no longer exists.
Or does it?

Desperate GG

Gah. I wish I'd recorded my child when she was really ill with whooping cough. Experiencing that has made me militantly pro vaccinations and angry with those who are anti... (Australia in particular where the m-i-l who brought it over is from was rife with non-vaccinators..)
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Gracious rebel

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quote:
Originally posted by The Galloping Granny:
Do old posts disappear altogether into cyberspace?

My daughter's fallen prey to a conspiracy theory about children's vaccinations. I'd have loved to refer her to a thread on the subject (The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few – in Purg 21 December 2008) but it no longer exists.
Or does it?

Desperate GG

I know someone's already posted a google cache of the first page of this thread, but I've now found the original thread in Oblivion here

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Robert Armin

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quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
Robert Armin in AS:

quote:
I've got a study full of books to clear. A lot of them are left over from old GCSE and A Level courses; they are good scholarship but a little dated now (Barrett on John, for example). It seems a shame to throw them away, but I can't use them at all. Does anyone know an institution that might be glad to have them?

My apologies for posting in the wrong place PeteC - I'm afraid I didn't realise this thread existed. If anyone can point me in a helpful direction I would be most grateful.

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Figbash

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Courtesy of Abebooks, I recently came across this: 'The Big Book of Lesbian Horse Stories'.

Now, ever eager for new information, and interested to know what it is that motivates a lesbian horse, I noted that Amazon would show me the first few pages, so I read them.

And God it was bad. But what I want to know is this. I was shocked at the crudity, not sexual, but of execution. I am not a big reader of soft porn, but I can't imagine a hetero author getting away with quite such transparent devices to get his characters into bed.

So, a question for any lesbian readers: is this typical of lesbian fiction, or is it genuinely a heap of shit? Or am I just unnaturally prudish? Or is it some kind of satire that only works if you're steeped in the conventions of lesbian soft porn?

[ 07. September 2009, 16:44: Message edited by: Figbash ]

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Lamb Chopped
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quote:
Originally posted by Sparrow:

WordPerfect (remember that?) used to have one very simple key "reveal codes" which switched all those marks off and on.

It still does. I have WordPerfect (long may it wave! but how long, O Lord?).

The faux "reveal codes" of Word reveals about 10 percent of them. As I am reminded, EVERY FREAKING DAY at work. [brick wall]

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Jengie jon

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That is because Word doesn't really use codes. Rather a document in Word is a series of instructions to the computer that will output the text in the required form.

You used to be able to see these by going into a Word document with a text editor. At least once I have managed to rescue a long document that way. The guy had managed to put in a circular loop and therefore the document was every loading.

Jengie.

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Wesley J

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quote:
Originally posted by Smudgie:
A question for all you toy railway addicts from a concerned Smudgelet. Does anyone know whether the move by Hornby towards digital systems will mean that his current track and trains will be obsolete and that any new ones he buys in the future will be incompatible with them? Dare he keep expanding his collection or would he be better to save his money and start only collecting digital ones?

As far as I know, and talking from experience back in the 1980ies when they started with the first digital trains, tracks should be compatible. Locos will very probably be as well, as you should always be able to run analogue ones on digitally-fed tracks. Analogue and digital are compatible, as long as you still have analogue controllers and transformers - and that's as far as goes, I believe.

In the worst case scenario, Smudgelet might need (or want) to put a tiny digital module into an analogue (old) engine, which is not that big a deal as those units are getting smaller all the time.

I hope someone can give more details, but I don't think there's anything to be worried about.

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Sioni Sais
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quote:
Originally posted by Smudgie:
A question for all you toy railway addicts from a concerned Smudgelet. Does anyone know whether the move by Hornby towards digital systems will mean that his current track and trains will be obsolete and that any new ones he buys in the future will be incompatible with them? Dare he keep expanding his collection or would he be better to save his money and start only collecting digital ones?

Most manufacturers have digital control systems but I think it will be a long time, if ever, before digital takes over entirely. Some model locos have the digital chips already installed and while they can be run on normal, ie, analogue controllers I don't think it is a great idea in the long term.

The advantage with digital is that you can run prototypically, in that the power goes to the model loco, rather than the track.

In any event it is possible to wire the necessary digital chip into most recent models, in HO and OO scale for a start and even in some N gauge, so, when the final switchover comes, in about 20 years (my guess), it shouldn't be such a big deal. There may however be a few models that for one reason or another just can't accept digital, but they are likely to be out of production now.

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jacobsen

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Textbooks

Aren't there charities which collect books for third world schools?

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Galloping Granny
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quote:
Originally posted by Gracious rebel:
quote:
Originally posted by The Galloping Granny:
Do old posts disappear altogether into cyberspace?

My daughter's fallen prey to a conspiracy theory about children's vaccinations. I'd have loved to refer her to a thread on the subject (The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few – in Purg 21 December 2008) but it no longer exists.
Or does it?

Desperate GG

I know someone's already posted a google cache of the first page of this thread, but I've now found the original thread in Oblivion here
On shore leave -– just rowed out to the ship -- for a visit. Many thanks.

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Robert Armin

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quote:
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Textbooks

Aren't there charities which collect books for third world schools?

That's what I thought - but I don't know their names, or how to contact them.

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Emma Louise

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It depends how recently you used them but if the course at the local school is still the same they may well welcome them in the library!
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The sort of books described are probably not relevant for schools any more but would be very useful for people training to be lay readers/local preachers - maybe your diocese/district had a training course that you could donate them to.
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by jacobsen:
Textbooks

Aren't there charities which collect books for third world schools?

That's what I thought - but I don't know their names, or how to contact them.
There's a bloke in our church who does this. Ships books to Nigeria and Sierra Leone.

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I've been googling for ages and can't seem to find an answer to this one...

My phone (basic one - sony ericcson t303 if it matters) gave up storing sent texts a month or so ago. There doesn't seem to be a setting to store or not store them and its still saving "in box" messages. Just not the outbox ones.

Any ideas?!

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Emma Louise

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Ah sussed it. It thinks its in 2008 so all my messages were being stored upside down....
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quote:
Originally posted by Sparrow:
Does anyone have any advice about how to get a leather jacket cleaned?

If the liner zips out, perfect. Just wash it like normal laundry. If not, you can use a spray fabric cleaner (like Febreeze) in the dirtier parts, like the arm pits.

For the outside leather shell, stop by your local leather jacket store. They'll have 2 things you need: cleaner, and protectant. You'll start by wiping the whole jacket down with a clean damp cloth to remove excess dirt. Then use the cleaner as instructed on the bottle. It's usually just a wipe on/wipe off process. Then use the protectant according to its label. A lot of these are in a spray can.

If you don't have a local shop, search Amazon for "leather jacket cleaner" and pick a cleaner/conditioner and a protectant that are labeled for garment use.

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I am searching for present ideas (all else fails and it will be Amazon tokens). For my thesis I have two people who proof read for me, both volunteered. Each year I like to give them a gift as an acknowledgement of the effort they put in over the year. Its time to be getting the gifts once again.

One is in his late seventies, Scottish, retired doctor and cultured; the other is around fifty, formerly a research scientist but now looking for other employment, likes Terry Pratchet, is into upholstery and can do it at a professional level. Both of them have a liking for the idiosyncratic.

Last year I gave them Sloe Gin (thanks Earwig for the hint).

Any ideas of something slightly unusual to give them (does not have to be the same for both) for about twenty pounds.


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Has the Terry Pratchett fan got the Science of the discworld books? Otherwise, you can get Discworld figurines, but I don't know how much they cost.

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Giving that some serious thought, not the figurines but the science of discworld. She'd enjoy it but therefore she may well have it.

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Can someone satisfy my curiosity and tell me if Jehovah's Witnesses ever call at vicarages/rectories/presbyteries?

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quote:
Originally posted by Loveheart:
Can someone satisfy my curiosity and tell me if Jehovah's Witnesses ever call at vicarages/rectories/presbyteries?

I'm sure they do in the U.S., because our vicarages/rectories/presbyteries aren't marked as such. (And very few parishes, at least in the Episcopal Church, have church-owned housing. Most clergy have housing allowances these days -- simpler for the church, better for the clergy.)

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quote:
Originally posted by Loveheart:
Can someone satisfy my curiosity and tell me if Jehovah's Witnesses ever call at vicarages/rectories/presbyteries?

They've done it here, more than once - it says 'Rectory' on the gate.
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Yes, They came to home of our priest and his wife filled with glee, directed them down to the basement where the priest and the senior warden were busy making home made wine. [Snigger]
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I think they're supposed to, because everybody deserves to know the Truth (as they call it), and that includes those who make their living preaching false religion (that's everything that isn't the Truth). Besides, members of the clergy are at special risk, because I believe they're going to be the first to be killed at Armageddon. So really it's the duty of a kind humane JW to make sure they have a chance to know the Truth [Big Grin]
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