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Sparrow
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quote:
Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
Conventional wisdom is 20° but if you put it at 19 you'll save gas and not really feel the difference.

20° seems awfully warm to me. I have mine set on 16° at present and that seems fine. Where are you, Alaska?


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Jengie jon

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20° is actually a comfortable sitting temperature for the inactive. The problem is many public buildings are heated to this temperature. An active person could live at quite a bit lower temperature but going from that to 20° is not pleasant!

One year works heating broke down, and I just did not turn the heating on at my flat, so I was living probably at an average temperature less that 16°. I was in that all the time.

Then I went to a conference first week in September, where the central heating was on. It took me a good twenty four hours to acclimatise.

I also spent the week before Easter at the abbey back in 1985. It had central heating, using a heat sump from the Atlantic ocean. The central heating worked intermittently, you noticed the difference when it was on. Again on returning to a student flat (not exactly the warmest of places) it took me about twenty four hours to acclimatise.

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[ 20. October 2009, 12:19: Message edited by: Jengie Jon ]

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Don't forget, too, that a thermostat may only measure the temperature in one very limited position. I recommend fiddling with the thermostat until you find the position you're happiest with.

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Sparrow
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Can anyone remind me what is the formula for calculating the width of fabric you need for curtains at a window? I seem to remember it was 1.5 times the width of the window, is thar right?

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Originally posted by Sparrow:
Can anyone remind me what is the formula for calculating the width of fabric you need for curtains at a window? I seem to remember it was 1.5 times the width of the window, is thar right?

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A quick reversion to the UK food question: unlike the sort of custard that you make up yourself out of powder or whatever, the Devon tinned stuff is best eaten cold.

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Currently I think I have a yukky cough/cold but it definitely isn't flu-like (seasonal or piggy variety) - I'm not wiped out enough for it to be flu and I don't think I have a high temperature (don't own a thermometer so can't check for sure).

What the NHS swine flu guidance won't seem to tell me is whether flu symptoms can develop gradually or whether you go down with high temperature + other symptoms all at once? i.e. can I be confident that since my symptoms aren't currently flu-like, they're just the result of a yukky cough/cold and aren't likely to turn into flu-like symptoms over the next couple of days?

(In some ways this is an academic question. My plan of action is still to eat something decent, take in lots of fluid, dose up on cold/flu medicine and have a very early night. But I'd like to know whether I should feel reassured that I'm not likely to have to miss too many days of work, or whether I should start stressing about missing mandatory placement days + being ill the week before my draft dissertation proposal is due in.)

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It is an academic question, and the last thing you need to do right now is stress (about anything). However, since you're curious, I'm just emerging from something that is definately A flu (whether it's THE flu is undetermined). Yes, normally it hits like a ton of bricks and all at once. But in my case this go-round, it took a full day to develop the "totally wiped out" feeling, and a day and a half to start the fever--which then went rapidly to over 103 F and stayed there for two days. So I doubt you're out of the woods yet. [Waterworks] (By the way, there's a flu thread in heaven called "fever dreams and flying pigs)

ETA: call your department and ask for an extension NOW. Civilized peope DO give extensions for good reasons, and flu is an obvious one. And later you may be too out of it to even remember what an extension is (saith she who tried to do her orals right after leaving her father's deathbed).

[ 21. October 2009, 19:34: Message edited by: Lamb Chopped ]

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Just a little helpful host hint! [Smile]

None of us can diagnose any illness here on the Ship. Please go to your physician to find out for sure!

We can, however, offer prayers and sympathy and encouragement!

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North East Quine

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Just idle curiosity - I don't need to know this.

I'm doing some research into a school teacher in Aberdeen, Mrs Eliza Lewins (1821-1873) Her eldest son was named Thornton. Google has popped up the fact that the full name of Baron Lewin, the naval officer, (1920-1999) was Terence Thornton Lewin. Co-incidence? Or could he be a great grandson? Oxford DNB gives Baron Lewin's father's name as Eric, but nothing of the family history. Could Baron Lewin's great granny have been a Scottish schoolteacher?

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Jengie jon

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quote:
Originally posted by Zoey:
Currently I think I have a yukky cough/cold but it definitely isn't flu-like (seasonal or piggy variety) - I'm not wiped out enough for it to be flu and I don't think I have a high temperature (don't own a thermometer so can't check for sure).

What the NHS swine flu guidance won't seem to tell me is whether flu symptoms can develop gradually or whether you go down with high temperature + other symptoms all at once? i.e. can I be confident that since my symptoms aren't currently flu-like, they're just the result of a yukky cough/cold and aren't likely to turn into flu-like symptoms over the next couple of days?

(In some ways this is an academic question. My plan of action is still to eat something decent, take in lots of fluid, dose up on cold/flu medicine and have a very early night. But I'd like to know whether I should feel reassured that I'm not likely to have to miss too many days of work, or whether I should start stressing about missing mandatory placement days + being ill the week before my draft dissertation proposal is due in.)

There is a very mild but long term cold going around. I know I have had it (three weeks ago, Lamb Chopped so I am quite happy to say I am past the worst). I am used to doing the three day thing. Get cold, bomb hard by staying in and taking lots of rest, by the third day I am normally over it. I did that twice before it really abated. However it never really even got to cold status, no runny nose, no temperature, etc just a persistent cough and very tired.

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Hugal's had the aforementioned Lurgy for three weeks now and it just won't go away. It's not any kind of flu (not even the dreaded Man-Flu...) but it is a rather nasty cold. I went down with it on Tuesday night and have managed to avoid time off work, but not by choice.

So there's certainly a nasty cold going around.

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I was given a marble pestle and mortar recently (it's ace). Is there any special things I need to be aware of with regard to cleaning it? I'm guessing that sticking it in the dishwasher is not a good idea.

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Warm water is usually enough for cleaning marble. Be sure not to use vinegar or acidic cleaners if you find that water's not enough. Just a gentle dish detergent should be fine.

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Is there any reason a regular shampoo (not shampoo/conditioner) cannot be used as a body wash?

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I've done that many times, Lyda*Rose. I did notice that it took a bit more rinsing off than the body-wash does, so one needs less shampoo for the same amount of suds.

I also used to wash my hair with dish-detergent, since that was much cheaper than shampoo. Unfortunately, it was rather drying to my hair, so I finally had to give in and buy some genuine shampoo. There was, fortunately, a less-expensive brand of shampoo that worked well for me.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
... mild but long term cold going around ... no runny nose, no temperature, etc just a persistent cough and very tired.

That sounds very like something lots of people over here have had, Jengie. According to my best friend's GP, all the different sets of symptoms are caused by H1N1, but just manifested differently in different people. In my case, it's been tiredness and a sore throat alternating day-about with a chesty cough, but no other symptoms, and has lasted about 3 weeks. All I can recommend is lots of hot honey-and-lemon (and-whisky-if-you-like-it) drinks and plenty of rest.

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Originally posted by Leetle Masha:
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I also used to wash my hair with dish-detergent, since that was much cheaper than shampoo. Unfortunately, it was rather drying to my hair, so I finally had to give in and buy some genuine shampoo. There was, fortunately, a less-expensive brand of shampoo that worked well for me.

Hmmmm ....

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Sixty years ago we washed our hair with Sunlight soap, which always had a statement on the packet offering you Ł50 reward if you could prove it wasn't 100% pure. Then the thing to use in the rinse was beer, or lemon juice. Shampoo? What's that? Now I look at shelves of shampoo and wonder which to use: have I got split ends? do I need bulk? is my hair dry or oily? It's a puzzlement...

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So it's save-the-earth with dreadlocks, eh? [Paranoid]

That article made me depressed. [Frown]

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North East Quine

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One cautionary note - never try to use baby shampoo as oven cleaner. It forms a sort of jelly over every surface which takes hours to remove, and it doesn't actually leave your oven any cleaner.

I discovered this after my hair dresser told me that I was drying out my hair by using the kids' stuff. Her actual words were "That stuff's so alkaline that you could use it as oven cleaner." Instead of thinking "I must buy the expensive shampoo my hairdresser recommends" I thought -"child-safe oven cleaner!! I must try that!!"

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Jengie jon

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
... mild but long term cold going around ... no runny nose, no temperature, etc just a persistent cough and very tired.

That sounds very like something lots of people over here have had, Jengie. According to my best friend's GP, all the different sets of symptoms are caused by H1N1, but just manifested differently in different people. In my case, it's been tiredness and a sore throat alternating day-about with a chesty cough, but no other symptoms, and has lasted about 3 weeks. All I can recommend is lots of hot honey-and-lemon (and-whisky-if-you-like-it) drinks and plenty of rest.
Well if that was my dose of swine flu I think I should be offering up a very big thank you to the almighty!

I remember my previous bout of 'flu because it was so bad it frightened me about living on my own for quite some time afterwards.

Jengie

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I was behind a driving school car today that said it was BSL supported. I'm assuming that does mean British sign language and isn't some other acronym. If so, does anyone know how one would drive and sign at the same time? My understanding of signing involves using both hands and having to watch the other person which would be rather scary on the roads! No particular need to know but it's been puzzling me.

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It certainly puts a new spin on road rage. [Eek!]

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What's so new? Other drivers show me hand signs all the time.

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I believe that it is indeed British Sign Language - before the lesson the instructor and Learner agree the signs they'll be using. I take my hat off to anyone who needs to learn this way - it must be so much harder and take longer. Although they won't hear the instructor muttering... or worse.
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Jengie jon

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quote:
Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
Is there any reason a regular shampoo (not shampoo/conditioner) cannot be used as a body wash?

I believe it may be the other way around (and yes I have tried it, which is why I sort of know), that regular soap / body wash is likely to be difficult to rinse out of hair thoroughly enough for it too look clean.

Jengie

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Robert Armin

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How long should one go on giving presents to a godchild? I have various godchildren, most of whom I really enjoy. They all get presents for their birthdays and Christmas, and most of them express their gratitude. One doesn't. She has just turned 10, and I've sent a present off, but she has never said thank you, in words or in a letter. Quite frankly I feel like a present-giving machine. Now that she is 10 do you think I could stop?

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Robert Armin

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And, while I'm at it, does anyone know where to find a cross on Word? I'm printing off the rubric for consecrating extra elements and would like to insert a cross - so far the closest thing I can find is a dagger.....

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quote:
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How long should one go on giving presents to a godchild? I have various godchildren, most of whom I really enjoy. They all get presents for their birthdays and Christmas, and most of them express their gratitude. One doesn't. She has just turned 10, and I've sent a present off, but she has never said thank you, in words or in a letter. Quite frankly I feel like a present-giving machine. Now that she is 10 do you think I could stop?

When I had this dilemma I had a quiet word with the parents who not only also have the same attitude to received gift but also used to let me know what the child would like - always well above what I could afford. I mentioned that I wasn't sure the gift had arrived in the post and also it helped if I knew that the child liked whatever I sent otherwise I hadn't got much idea of what might "hit the spot" on future gift-worthy occasions. Nothing changed, apart from a brief note to tell me the parcel had arrived.
I wondered if perhaps my attitude was wrong, but soon after the child reached 10 I put an end to guessing what he might like and stopped sending.

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And, while I'm at it, does anyone know where to find a cross on Word? I'm printing off the rubric for consecrating extra elements and would like to insert a cross - so far the closest thing I can find is a dagger.....

It depends what you have got installed, but usually "insert", "Symbol" and select Wingdings will give you some crosses to choose from
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Windings, Shift, x gives you rather a nice one.

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Robert Armin

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quote:
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Windings, Shift, x gives you rather a nice one.

Thurible

That's exactly what I wanted. Many thanks.

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Robert Armin

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Nothing changed, apart from a brief note to tell me the parcel had arrived.
I don't even get that, despite broad hints. daisydaisy I think I will follow your example - and then feel guilty as her birthday rolls round again. [Help]

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I moved home recently and was given a wine rack as a house warming present. Now I am finally sorting out where everything has to go - where would be the best place to put the wine rack, temperature wise? I.e. what's the best temperature at which to store wine? It'll probably have to go in the kitchen, but I don't want to put it somewhere it will be too warm.

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Wine storage? Relatively cool and constant for anything you're intending to keep. If you're going to drink it in the next few days, it won't care.
Cellars are ideal, but unlikely. Under the stairs is often good. Kitchens are absolutely not a place to store good quality wine because of the tropical heat and tendency for someone to use the finer examples in the stew when you're not looking [Big Grin]

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Emma Louise

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Some random questions.

We're currently renting a flat and it has an ancient washing machine...

If I do a half load (there is no half-load setting) do I use half the powder as there is half the clothes or do I need to use the whole amount as there will be the same amount of water going in...?

Secondly. I have zillions of computer pictures saved in "my pictures" on my computer. There has to be an easier way to store/arrange them. Any suggestions? I'm not looking for the world to be able to see them and there will be other people's photos in there as well as mine (its my total collection of family snaps so many taken by others) so public stuff/ flickr not really appropriate.

I'd like to look through and get some printed off. Is this cheapest by taking a memory stick to asda or an online doodah?

And finally - do people tend to store *all* their family photos/ print of the best ones and put in an album/ burn cds?!?!

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Jengie jon

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Number one, I'd suggest you'd probably get away with something like two thirds of the powder. The powder will be more dilute in the solution, but you need the dirt only to come in contact with enough to get rid of it and as it is not being used up on other clothes then there is chance it will. I am guessing that washing powder is something like tea, X for the machine and Y for the load. So for half load you need x+y/2 but as I don't know what x or y I am guessing about 2/3.

Number 2, I have only used Adobe Album and that is no longer being developed or supported by Adobe, which is a pity as it was fairly good. There are other free ones with reviews of six of them here

Number 3, depends totally on mood. For a holiday I might get a book printed, if others are interested I might get prints to display otherwise largely they just exist in the electronic sphere.

Jengie

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monkeylizard

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I burn all (well, not THOSE pictures, but all the others) of mine to a DVD about once or twice a year and take that DVD to the bank and put it in my deposit box.

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Just received in the post today (in spite of the postal strike) my new glasses that I only ordered 3 days ago from one of the cheap prescription glasses websites. Only problem is with the 'arms'- they grip my head too tightly, and I can imagine a headache developing soon. If I'd got them from a hight street opticians they would have course adjusted them to fit comfortably. Does anyone know if the arms can be bent somehow at home, or should I take them into a shop?

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Welease Woderwick

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Any optician, anywhere in the world, will adjust your specs for you free of charge - it is one of the things they seem very proud of and it has been a boon to me in many places.

If you want to do it yourself then fill a mug with hot water and rest the arm in there for a while before adjusting but it really is easier just to take it into any optician as they are more experienced and can get it right pretty much first time.

Funny specs story: when I was in Seattle in 1998 the arm fell off one of my pairs of specs so I went into the optician I came to and held up the two pieces and the young woman said:

"Oh, you want a screw!"

How I wish I'd replied:

"Yes, but can you fix my specs first."

[Had it been a young man I might have said just that!]

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Wesley J

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I wouldn't try and bend 'em myself: we ain't no Beckham (he said jokingly) - why not check with said High Street shops, and see if they can help, and how much it would be. Many may even help you out for free, or so I am told.

I believe opticians got some special devices to heat them up and bend 'em fairly easily.

[ETA: Cross-eyed crosspost, as I can see. What a spectacle! [Eek!] ]

[ 30. October 2009, 15:12: Message edited by: Wesley J ]

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Please, where on earth (or in America) can I get a copy of Steeleye Span's recording of the Lyke Wake Dirge? Maybe it's not available on CD. A tape would do. I've trawled through pages of their albums and the lyrics archive, with no success.

Maybe Pentangle made them withdraw it? It was P's tune after all, in the first place. But SS's version was far more powerful, gritty, authentic sounding. Any ideas?

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Firenze

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I found a CD on Amazon - 'The Very Best of Steeleye Span' - which listed the Lyke Wake dirge as one of the tracks.

Unfortunately, IE crashed before I could pick up the URL - but it was definitely there and for sale.

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quote:
Originally posted by pimple:
Maybe Pentangle made them withdraw it? It was P's tune after all, in the first place.

Nope. The song is old - John Aubrey published words to it in the 17th century - but the tune might not be. Pentangle got the song off a record bny the Young Tradition (Peter Bellamy & Heather & Royston Wood). They got it from someone called Hans Fried. And he said he got the tune from a woman called Peggy Richardsand no-one knows where she got it from. So it might be traditional and even if it isn't its probably out of copyright.

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Leaf
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Question regarding good-quality photo and document reproductions:

I have some family documents (birth certificates) from the late 19th - early 20th c. I also have a wedding photo of my grandparents, early 20th c.

I would like to get some copies made of these, but don't know where to start. The documents are rather fragile, and I'm afraid the photo might be damaged in the process.

What sort of business would specialize in this kind of copying? What should I look for/ask about?

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Lamb Chopped
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Pity you aren't near me. Anybody who can handle a scanner and Photoshop (or other scanning software) should be able to do this for you, and in fact, you can probably get walked through the process yourself, easy and cheap, at any office copying place (US example: Kinko's). Your photos and documents get scanned in front of your eyes (maybe by your own two hands) and turned into computer files. From that point on, the originals are no longer needed, and you can put them back in the safe.

What if you want them blown up / restored / colorized / etc? This is where you want someone with some skill in Photoshop. There are photo restoration services (Google or hit your phone book) but they are apt to be pricey. Since you are only handing over a computer file, not your precious originals, you might consider contacting a local college that offers graphic design and seeing whether an advanced student might want to take on the job. If nothing else, they should have recommendations for you.

Whoever does it should be able to look at the files and then discuss with you just what they feel is reasonable in terms of restoration / changes. Some things just aren't likely to work (for example, blowing up a postage stamp sized photo into an 8 by 12). Also get a firm estimate on cost. Keep the original computer files and hand over copies, so that if you ever need them again, they haven't been messed over.

ETA: as you've probably figured out, I've done this work many times.

[ 04. November 2009, 01:28: Message edited by: Lamb Chopped ]

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Leaf
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Many thanks, Lamb Chopped! That seems like sound advice.
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pimple

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Firenze. Many thanks. Getting my canoe out...

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LeRoc

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quote:
monkeylizard: I burn all (well, not THOSE pictures, but all the others) of mine to a DVD about once or twice a year and take that DVD to the bank and put it in my deposit box.
My brother (who knows about these things) doesn't trust DVD's to hold their data after a longer time period, say 10+ years. I usually make sure that I have printed copies of the most important pictures.

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