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RooK
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As has been suggested, an initial purge seems like the way to go. In order to avoid having the iron ions accumulate in the corners of the washing machine, and assuming there is some sort of sink handy, I'd suggest plumbing in a simple soft line from a T immediately before the water goes into the washer. Purge the lines into the sink until the water runs clear before a wash.
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Pigwidgeon
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The other thing about the front loader is that I can't just simply dump in wash helpers like borax or ammonia while the machine is filling with water. I've thought of using the Softener dispenser for the ammonia (since I never use softeners), but it's right next to the bleach dispenser, so that seems too risky. Not to mention that it probably wouldn't be delivered at the right time. And the borax is a powder.
A slight tangent, but I'm curious about using ammonia for laundry. I've never heard of this, and wonder what its purpose is.
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Ammonia cuts grease and oils.
The rusty water problem is only for the first second or two from the cold water taps in the house, but it's a major shot of orange water. All the plumbing is brand-spanking new (and mostly color-coded plastic of the latest sort).
No sink (the laundry is on the second floor and hubby talked me out of a utility sink). Dumb me.
Thanks for the various suggestions. I'll figure things out over time. I just need to learn how to outsmart all the bells and whistles built into the machine.
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RooK
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Originally posted by jlg:
hubby talked me out of a utility sink
Flog him with a baby badger.
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I just need to learn how to outsmart all the bells and whistles built into the machine.
It might be less than optimally time-efficient, but it should be relatively easy to set the thing for a simple small-load rinse as a line-purge before you run it in earnest with your laundry.
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Ariel
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Somewhere in the V&A (London) there's a smallish room which I think is now part of a coffee-shop or cafe, which has pre-Raphaelite tile panels around the walls depicting the months of the year personified, in blue and white.
I can't remember the name of the artist, but think it may have been De Morgan. But searching the V&A website has drawn a complete blank and so has Google. Does this ring any bells with anyone?
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Ariel
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I've now found it - it took a while. It's called the Poynter Room and the tiles look like this, if anyone's interested. (I can never see December without thinking of the Tardis, but YMMV.)
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Jengie jon
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Not a solution but suspect you'd be better off in word. Do a help query on indexing.
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North East Quine
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I'm trying to date an old Girl Guide flag which has the Guide trefoil sewn onto a Union flag (Union Jack). I understand it's no longer legal to sew emblems onto, or otherwise alter, the Union flag to create another flag. Does anyone know if this is true, and if so when this became law?
Googling only tells me that there is no British law against flag desecration, but this isn't flag desecration.
Is there a word for adapting a flag to create a different flag?
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North East Quine
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Thank-you!
It's probably about that old - we have an idea that it became illegal to make flags with emblems sewn on, and if we knew when it became illegal, we'd have an idea of the age of the flag.
But I can't find out if it really is illegal, and, if so, when it became illegal.
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The Girl Guides have an archivist and a museum, try asking them if they can help date the flag. All they can say is "no"...
Contact details are here.
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Horseman Bree
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In reading this post , I came across the word "shuftie", which seems to mean "look around", or, possibly, "shuffle through".
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A quick shuftie around google (of praxis, individual, collective) will throw up all sorts of issues
Any hints as to the origin of this word?
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North East Quine
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It gladdened my heart to see it, because it's a word I use - I thought it was a Scots word. It's not in my Scots Dialect Dictionary, though.
I use it to mean "quick glance" - e.g. "I'll just have a shuftie at the newspaper while I'm waiting"
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Yes as someone currently attempting to learn dialect Arabic I can confirm that the imperative of the verb 'to look' is "Shoft" (approximate transliteration!).
The only other arabic word I have recognised is 'bint' which means girl and I have heard of as a slightly old fashioned slang word in the UK for a woman.
I wonder if these were words picked up by troops staioned in Arabic speaking countries during WWII?
Just clicked the link above and see that my assumption appears to be right!
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I think the usage of both bint and shufty/shuftie/shufti in English may predate WW2 (and even WW1). It's not always easy to date slang usage, but they both (along with buckshee) may have come from the British Army in Egypt at the end of the nineteenth century.
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AdamPater
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(Prompted by a current news headline) if you are an arctic or antarctic adventurer and you set off to be the first person from your kindergarten class to get to the pole, how do you know when you've got there?
No, GPS doesn't count.
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Spike
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What is the difference between roasting and baking?
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Originally posted by Spike:
What is the difference between roasting and baking?
Probably not the correct answer, but roasting uncovered and baking covered was my first thought.
But then, meat can be cooked in a covered roaster, while cakes and biscuits are baked.
Any advance on that, short of checking in the cooks' dictionary?
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Jengie jon
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Checked this out, and these days not much, but originally roasting meant to cook over an open flame while baking was done with an enclosed flame in an oven. See this webpage. So also roasting referred to meat, which was done over an open fire while baking referred to things like cakes and such which were probably done in a side oven. I would associate it with the way the cooking depends on fat but that is just me.
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Originally posted by North East Quine:
Thank-you!
It's probably about that old - we have an idea that it became illegal to make flags with emblems sewn on, and if we knew when it became illegal, we'd have an idea of the age of the flag.
But I can't find out if it really is illegal, and, if so, when it became illegal.
I had a quick look on my legal databases, and can find no Act of Parliament dealing with flags at all, whether sewing emblems on them or by desecrating them. The only recent case on desecrating a flag seems to be Percy v DPP in 2001, where a protester standing on the Stars and Stripes (in the UK) in front of American servicemen and their families, and trampling it into the dust, was charged under s.5 of the Public Order Act 1986, but her conviction was quashed by the Court of Appeal on the grounds of the right to protest enshrined in the ECHR.
Maybe the Girl Guides just decided it was wrong to alter the union flag? Certain electricity companies have used green union flags, and a London artist had union flags in the colours of South Africa all over my uni campus last year. I would be surprised to find that there were any laws about altering the union flag - it's not a very British thing to worry about!
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Update to my answer above about flags:
In England and Wales the Town and Country Planning (Control of Advertisements) Regulations 2007 specifically provide that the flying of the national flag of any country is outside the scope of the Regulations altogether, provided that:
'Neither the flag nor the flagstaff may display any advertisement or subject matter additional to the design of the flag.'
It may be that the guides stopped putting their emblem on the Union flag to avoid any problems with planning regulations? The first such regulations were in 1992 (as far as can find out) if that's any help!
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Originally posted by AdamPater:
(Prompted by a current news headline) if you are an arctic or antarctic adventurer and you set off to be the first person from your kindergarten class to get to the pole, how do you know when you've got there?
No, GPS doesn't count.
From my 30+ year-old Astro & Navigation O level I think Solar and/or Celestial navigation is the best of the traditional methods. Otherwise I think you are left with Dead Reckoning, but working out you progress since your last good position won't be easy.
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AdamPater
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![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif) That's anti-climacticly easy then, isn't it? If I know the date then my latitude is fairly trivial. Still, I wonder how close Amundsen, Scott et al were.
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by AdamPater:
That's anti-climacticly easy then, isn't it? If I know the date then my latitude is fairly trivial. Still, I wonder how close Amundsen, Scott et al were.
I never said they were *easy*. You will need a timepiece that isn't wrong (I have read that one second out is about quarter of a mile!). I suppose that's why you had sailors in most expeditions.
Here's a link to Amundsen's method of locating the South Pole. Essentially he found grid south, took sun shots then worked to the pole using dead reckoning, having determined the distance and direction between grid and true south.
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I have some anti-eczema cream for Teacup to put on *before* she gets into a bath to stop her skin drying.
I'm not after medical advice, I'm doing what I'm told, but I'm just curious as to what's actually happening.
Surely putting stuff on to protect the skin from water makes putting her in the water a bit pointless? (Don't know if that makes sense as to why I am puzzled but its puzzling me!)
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OK, a strange problem (to which I am fairly confident I know the answer... and for which I am not seeking responses from such as Campbellite! ![[Biased]](wink.gif) )
I have a cat. A rather gorgeous cat, at that. I also have a garden. A rather small one.
My cat uses my garden for the purposes for which a cat usually uses a garden.... sleeping in the sun, fighting with other cats, and.. er... pooing. I have absolutely no objection to my cat pooing in my garden (or even to other cats pooing in my garden, though I'm glad my cat tends to use his own territory for the purpose rather than my neighbours') and our flat is too small to use a litter tray to counter this.
So here is my problem. Because the garden is so small and with so little dug area, it is difficult to avoid the pooey spot and its distinctive aroma. Is there any good way of masking the smell? Something I could put on that patch of waste ground that would mask the smell without detering the cat from using that area? Or do I just have to get my super-dooper-pooper-scooper to de-poop it daily? (Sorry Smudgelet)
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Ariel
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If the volcano is erupting a plume of ash that gets into the jet stream at 30,000 feet which stops planes from flying, what stops planes from flying at a lower altitude to avoid the bulk of it?
In the past couple of days there have been a few small light aircraft around which suggests that the lower levels of the air aren't unsafe. Do full-size planes need to be travelling at a height of 30K feet, or are there regulations/aerodynamic reasons that prohibit them from travelling at less?
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The fact is that you can only reliably fly under something that you can see, normal planes can not even detect it if they are flying in it.
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Spike asked, quote:
What is the difference between roasting and baking?
My understanding is that roasting is a dry heat oven method of cooking food. The food is usually left uncovered so that it browns, although it might be covered for part of the time. Baking on the other hand has some sort of liquid added and a lid is added to keep in the moisture. The terms do get mixed together now I think. Dry roasted potatoes in the oven for example are called baked potatoes. You can truly bake potatoes when they are added to the liquid around a roast which is baked with liquid. ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif) Yes it is one of those things.
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jlg
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Originally posted by Ariel:
If the volcano is erupting a plume of ash that gets into the jet stream at 30,000 feet which stops planes from flying, what stops planes from flying at a lower altitude to avoid the bulk of it?
In the past couple of days there have been a few small light aircraft around which suggests that the lower levels of the air aren't unsafe. Do full-size planes need to be travelling at a height of 30K feet, or are there regulations/aerodynamic reasons that prohibit them from travelling at less?
Long distance international flights cruise a very high altitudes (mostly to avoid local weather patterns and perhaps also local traffic of smaller aircraft). These high levels are where the heavy ash levels are slowly dispersing.
While I don't claim any actual knowledge beyond that, I suspect that there are a lot of reasons why they can't simply fly the big jets under the ash cloud. Maybe things like the jet engines are designed to work at high altitudes for long distances, and perhaps the complications of managing air traffic at lower levels with mixed high speed and low speed aircraft?
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Firenze
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Originally posted by Spike:
What is the difference between roasting and baking?
I think I would dissent from Graven Image. I think baking is the dry version. You bake bread and cakes and puddings, dessicating the exterior and activating any raising ingredients. You don't intervene while this is going on.
Roasting tends to involve basting - ie applying juices/oils while still invoking the drying/crisping action of high heat. If you are taking steps to actively stop the loss of moisture, then you are casseroling or braising.
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Originally posted by Smudgie:
So here is my problem. Because the garden is so small and with so little dug area, it is difficult to avoid the pooey spot and its distinctive aroma. Is there any good way of masking the smell? Something I could put on that patch of waste ground that would mask the smell without detering the cat from using that area? Or do I just have to get my super-dooper-pooper-scooper to de-poop it daily? (Sorry Smudgelet)
After having cats most of my life, I have never found anything that is able to mask the cat poo smell. Well, except maybe elephant poo, but there you have a new problem.
My apologies to Smudgelet in suggesting that the s-d-pooper-scooper is probably the best route.
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Re: planes versus ash.
The main problem is with jet aircraft, because you can't filter the air inlets. If the light aircraft you're seeing are propeller-driven, they probably enjoy the luxury of piston engines with air filters.
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If it were possible for all the jet planes in European airspace to fly below the ash cloud, can you imagine the magnitude of necessary rescheduling by air traffic controllers of thousands of flights?
(Edited to remove ambiguity)
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I heard it explained on the BBC news that modern jest planes are designed to fly efficiently at high altitude. At lower altitudes they burn up huge amounts of extra fuel and their tanks are too small to hold enough to make a fight of any distance.
But there was in the news also, that in the south of England smaller planes are being grounded because they had been found to be covered in the ash.
So I guess that the risk is still too great.
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I heard it explained on the BBC news that modern jest planes...
You're just fooling us...
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Thanks, all, for the interesting replies! I'm sure if it had been practical, they'd have done it already, but it's interesting to figure out why they haven't.
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To lower the tone a bit...
This falls in the category of "vulgar curiosity," but can anyone imagine why an elderly man of a particularly rugged, macho type, with a white beard and mustache, looks like a stereotypical sea captain, would be wearing pointy women's shoes with kitten heels? in the winter it's women's boots of the almost FM variety. To church. For at least four years.
Obviously I can't ask him, having some semblance of shame left. But ....
Please somebody tell me there's an orthopedic benefit or something.
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Does he have very small feet? Wilkie Collins had such tiny feet, he could only get women's shoes to fit.
And/or is he a cheapskate? I recollect an old chap used to dot about in traditional Scottish dress - except that it wasn't a kilt, it was a lassie's tartan miniskirt (complete with net petticoat) that he'd bought out of a charity shop.
Or maybe he just is a transvestite and the shoes are the outward and visible sign of the stockings, suspender belt, frilly knickers etc that he wearing under his sou'wester and oilskins.
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by Zacchaeus:
I heard it explained on the BBC news that modern jest planes...
You're just fooling us...
It's a new way of entertaining the passengers!
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
To lower the tone a bit...
This falls in the category of "vulgar curiosity," but can anyone imagine why an elderly man of a particularly rugged, macho type, with a white beard and mustache, looks like a stereotypical sea captain, would be wearing pointy women's shoes with kitten heels? in the winter it's women's boots of the almost FM variety. To church. For at least four years.
Obviously I can't ask him, having some semblance of shame left. But ....
Please somebody tell me there's an orthopedic benefit or something.
The women's boots may indeed be comfortable and affordable. Then again, if he's spent that long at sea, anything could be possible. Maybe he shot an albatross?
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Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
...can anyone imagine why an elderly man of a particularly rugged, macho type, with a white beard and mustache, looks like a stereotypical sea captain, would be wearing pointy women's shoes with kitten heels?
Puts me in mind of Robert De Niro's turn in the film 'Stardust'.
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Is there someone else at your church who might know and be willing to share?
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I have some anti-eczema cream for Teacup to put on *before* she gets into a bath to stop her skin drying.
...snippety...
Surely putting stuff on to protect the skin from water makes putting her in the water a bit pointless? (Don't know if that makes sense as to why I am puzzled but its puzzling me!)
I'm assuming, from the question, that you're putting the cream on pretty much everywhere - if you were only using it on limited areas then the bath makes sense to wash the un-coated bits.
As a guess, there's hope that the eczema is only temporary, but establishing the habit of bathing is a good thing. My mother didn't wash my hair in the bath, but if you do, that's another reason to keep taking baths.
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Surely putting stuff on to protect the skin from water makes putting her in the water a bit pointless? (Don't know if that makes sense as to why I am puzzled but its puzzling me!)
I would guess the applying beforehand would help the skin retain moisture and protect it from whatever cleanser you are using. The cream should not prevent any actual cleansing.
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