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Zappa
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A slight diversion (my Volvo 850 turbo was misfiring mut I changed the HT leads and distributor cap and it has improved) and on a less weighty subject ...
...in recent netspeak I am seeing the exclamations "meh" and "huzzah" a lot. I have never heard these spoken out loud (though I would often hear "hurrah"). From whence do they come, with what do they rhyme, are they locality-specific, what the hell are they ... ?
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Zoey
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My friends and I say "meh" aloud sometimes. Rhymes with "eh" (can't think of any properer words it rhymes with just at the moment). Means roughly - "Oh well", or "It's not how I'd ideally want this, but it's not worth expending any energy on" - a word implying resignation towards something.
"Huzzah" I think you already have sussed - I'd use it as a slightly snazzier-sounding, more triumphant version of "Hurrah".
I'm in the UK.
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rufiki
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Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
What is the proper name of the attitude that says (mentally), "I don't want your good will anymore, in fact I would much prefer it if you go on wrongly considering me the devil you've painted me?"
Contempt?
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Drifting Star
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I think of 'meh' as the noise made by shoulders as they are shrugged.
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TurquoiseTastic
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Was talking with a German friend about a religious group there called the "Johanniter" - a bit of Google-fu shows that they are somehow connected to the Knights of St. John, but information seemed surprisingly scanty - does anyone know whether they are associated with any mainstream groupings and what their particularities are?
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Pancho
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"Huzzah" has a certain "Rennaisance Faire" feel to it.
"Meh" in action.
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daviddrinkell
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Originally posted by Pancho:
"Huzzah" has a certain "Rennaisance Faire" feel to it.
"Meh" in action.
More 'Tom Brown's Schooldays', I reckon. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Originally posted by TurquoiseTastic:
Was talking with a German friend about a religious group there called the "Johanniter" - a bit of Google-fu shows that they are somehow connected to the Knights of St. John, but information seemed surprisingly scanty - does anyone know whether they are associated with any mainstream groupings and what their particularities are?
Wikipedia, if not your friend, is at least a reasonable acquaintance to get started with...
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Lamb Chopped
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Originally posted by rufiki:
quote:
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
What is the proper name of the attitude that says (mentally), "I don't want your good will anymore, in fact I would much prefer it if you go on wrongly considering me the devil you've painted me?"
Contempt?
That might be it. Though I think something is still missing. The bit that says "I would in fact be seriously disappointed at this point if you ever pulled your head out of your ass"?
Contempt. You're right.
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Meh is my current favorite word. Especially when my 14 year old says it. Its the most zany, ridiculous, onomatopoeic word ever. ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
It also conjures up mad penguins for some reason. ![[Paranoid]](graemlins/paranoid.gif)
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This question is particularly directed to anyone who has ever employed anyone, but I will appreciate answers from anyone who knows!
Have a job I really want. I have talked to the person who will do the hiring and he has given me some reason to hope, but I don't have anything but hopes. However, the job hasn't posted yet. He's sure it will, mind you. I sent him an email about it last Monday after waiting a few weeks for it to post. (That was my only email about it, so far.) He said: "I hope in the next few days. There have been some snags given revenue this year. Keep checking." Should I email him again? And more generally, are there guidelines about when one should bug a potential employer for an answer without annoying them?
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Gill H
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Don't know the answers, but does that mention of 'revenue this year' worry you at all? It would me.
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Firenze
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It sounds as if there is an internal struggle between the hiring person and other parts of the organisation (Finance, possibly senior management) as to whether the they can afford to recruit. If it doesn't appear, then he's lost.
So I wouldn't email again, since you will just accentuate the frustration he will doubtless feel.
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luvanddaisies
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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
...in recent netspeak I am seeing the exclamations "meh" and "huzzah" a lot. I have never heard these spoken out loud (though I would often hear "hurrah"). From whence do they come, with what do they rhyme, are they locality-specific, what the hell are they ... ?
"Huzzah" was the predecessor to "hurrah" - pronounced as you'd imagine, knowing how 'hurrah' is pronounced. It was particularly used in the navy and in the marines (UK & USA) back in the days of real boats ![[Biased]](wink.gif) . ( bit of blurb to support this ) .
This afternoon I am mostly wondering about "trundle" and "bundle". Where did they come from? They rhyme with each other, but with nothing else. Why? 'Undle' is a nice sound, which isn't it more common?
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Pancho
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Originally posted by luvanddaisies:
This afternoon I am mostly wondering about "trundle" and "bundle". Where did they come from? They rhyme with each other, but with nothing else. Why? 'Undle' is a nice sound, which isn't it more common?
Oh, do you speak Bundlese?
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luvanddaisies
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Never seen that before - it does show the niceness of the 'undle' sound quite well
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Pancho
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My favorite one in the series is the Speed Dating one (can't find it online). A guy speaking bundlese goes speed dating. One girl giggles and says, "Is that illegal?"; another one answers, "I totally don't speak French"; until he finds a girl who also speaks bundlese:
He: "Do you bundle?"
She: "For shundle"
He: "Wonderfundle!"
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luvanddaisies
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A friend on Facebook just came up with another "undle" word -
Rundle
1. a rung of a ladder
2. a wheel, esp of a wheelbarrow
[variant of roundel]
There are three "undles"! Are there any more?
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jedijudy
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Zappa, when I need an electronic signature for doing my taxes (for instance) I had the opportunity to register a series of numbers to indicate that I was the actual person sending the documents. (The same number works each year in this case.)
Does that help?
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Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
Though I think something is still missing. The bit that says "I would in fact be seriously disappointed at this point if you ever pulled your head out of your ass"?
Contempt. You're right.
Amused contempt.
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Sparrow
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Originally posted by Golden Key:
quote:
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
Though I think something is still missing. The bit that says "I would in fact be seriously disappointed at this point if you ever pulled your head out of your ass"?
Contempt. You're right.
Amused contempt.
Disdain?
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Evensong
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Totally inane question for a totally inanely curious mind.
Why does Chardonnay in a cask not have a strong acidic bite that Chardonnay in a bottle has?
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Firenze
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Originally posted by Evensong:
Totally inane question for a totally inanely curious mind.
Why does Chardonnay in a cask not have a strong acidic bite that Chardonnay in a bottle has?
Possibly because the Chardonnay in the barrel is (being) oaked, and the particular bottle you are comparing it with is unoaked? The wine is made (and bottled) in both styles - but the oaked (led by the Ozzies) has gained in popularity because it gives a much more mellow, buttery flavour.
OTOH, a good unoaked Chardonnay can have a freshness and varietal character more appealing than the wood-drenched equivalent.
It depends on which two specific wines/vintages you are comparing.
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jedijudy
Organist of the Jedi Temple
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My mom has a woolly mammoth tooth displayed in her home. My boy kitties like to lick it. For sometimes fifteen minutes at a stretch. Is there some kind of salt or other mineral on fossils that cats like?
(I am not making this up.)
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Cats are weird. My old Lord Byron used to lick plastic grocery bags. For hours. We had to hide the bags or the sound would wake us in the middle of the night.
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Yeah, but shouldn't the cat prefer a giant tooth from a carnivore? (Yum, leftover petrified tree fern leaves.)
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Evensong
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quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
Totally inane question for a totally inanely curious mind.
Why does Chardonnay in a cask not have a strong acidic bite that Chardonnay in a bottle has?
Possibly because the Chardonnay in the barrel is (being) oaked, and the particular bottle you are comparing it with is unoaked?
Unlikely. Here they tell you if its an unwooded chardonnay. These were straight chards.
Perhaps it has something to do with the processing....a mystery indeed!
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Originally posted by comet:
Cats are weird. My old Lord Byron used to lick plastic grocery bags. For hours. We had to hide the bags or the sound would wake us in the middle of the night.
![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif)
This woolly mammoth tooth conversation is the most bizarre I have heard in a while. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
My cat just likes to lick me. Usually my toes when walking around. Very rough tongues!
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Sparrow
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I have a problem with an almost brand new TV I bought about a month ago. Something seems to have happened to the colour balance, there is an overall greenish cast and all the faces are blue. Is this something I can adjust myself or do I need to take it back to the shop? The manual isn't very helpful.
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Drifting Star
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Does anyone know where I can buy Filofax-type paper (standard personal organiser size) that doesn't cost a small fortune?
Failing that, does anyone know of another refillable notebook system with reasonably priced refills? It needs to fit into a reasonably large pocket.
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Jengie jon
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Two answers:
Buy a hole punch and make your own.
or try
A5 ring binder.
Jengie
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Drifting Star
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I've looked at both those possibilities, and unfortunately that hole punch only takes one sheet at a time, and an A5 ring binder is too big for the pocket.
There are more macho hole punches, but they're expensive. I am watching one on ebay though.
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Sparrow
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Originally posted by Drifting Star:
Does anyone know where I can buy Filofax-type paper (standard personal organiser size) that doesn't cost a small fortune?
Failing that, does anyone know of another refillable notebook system with reasonably priced refills? It needs to fit into a reasonably large pocket.
Collins do one - you can find them on Amazon.
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Originally posted by Drifting Star:
Does anyone know where I can buy Filofax-type paper (standard personal organiser size) that doesn't cost a small fortune?
Not sure what you had in mind, but both Amazon and W H Smith have refills for less than a fiver, most seem to be around £2.50.
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Drifting Star
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Trouble is they have very little paper in them. Filofax refills of lined paper are typically £2 for 25 sheets, WH Smith's own brand are about the same for 35 sheets. And that's for roughly A6 sized paper.
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Sparrow
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Originally posted by Drifting Star:
Trouble is they have very little paper in them. Filofax refills of lined paper are typically £2 for 25 sheets, WH Smith's own brand are about the same for 35 sheets. And that's for roughly A6 sized paper.
Nothing to stop you cutting your own paper to fit - although there comes a time when you ask yourself if it is worth the trouble!
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Drifting Star
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I think that's where I'll end up (I do have a guillotine ), as long as I can get a decent 6 hole punch for a not-indecent price!
There don't seem to be any pocket sized, two hole organisers which would allow me to use a normal hole punch.
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North East Quine
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A friend needs photographic ID to fly internally in the UK. She doesn't have a passport, so applied for a photo driving license a month ago. DVLA tell her they have a backlog and her application is lost somewhere in the backlog.
Are there any other forms of photographic ID she could get immediately? She needs it by Friday. Easyjet say they'll accept anything which includes her photo, name and address.
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Is your friend able to get the kind of ID needed to buy drinks in a pub? I don't know if enough details are on the card but would that be acceptable to Easyjet?
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North East Quine
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Thanks. The usual proof-of-age card here is the Young Scot card for those aged up to 26. My friend is in her late 30s. Do you know of another proof-of-age card scheme?
She's getting desperate.
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Jengie jon
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Could she turn up with two ids. One photo and the other a bank account or utility bill to her current address?
Getting photo idea can be quite easy, getting something like this should do it.
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Sparrow
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How about getting a passport applicaton form (from the post office), filling it in, getting a photo and getting a qualified person (e.g. vicar) to certify her identify as required for the passport application? Don't send the form off but take it with her to the airport. Plus other documents proving her address (utility bill etc).
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North East Quine
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Thanks, Jengie. I don't think she's got time to get the Proof card - it says that urgent applications are processed in 3 days. However, I've phoned her and she's looking into it.
Any other suggestions?
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Thanks, Sparrow, I'll just phone her with that suggestion, too.
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