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Flausa

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Why flathead screw? Surely with the superior crosshead screw, flathead screws should be made obsolete. Can anyone give me a good reason for the perpetuation for flatheads?
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monkeylizard

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Slotted (flathead)* screws have one huge advantage over a Phillips (crosshead) screw: You can use almost any flat object to tighten or loosen a slotted screw. The same is not true of a Phillips screw. In pretty much every other area, the Phillips is a better design.

Slotted screws may also be preferred for their appearance. Phillips screws were designed sometime between the two World Wars. I don't recall the year. If a pre-Phillips object is being repaired, or if a new object is being made to look older, slotted is the way to go.


*Technically a flathead screw is any screw that is flat on top of the screw head and meant to be flush with the surface when fully tightened (as opposed to a rounded head). It can be slotted, Phillips, hex, torx, or any other slot pattern. But most normal people use "flathead" to mean "slotted". A flathead screwdriver is also techincally a flat blade screwdriver, but nobody calls it that.

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Celtic Knotweed
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quote:
Originally posted by monkeylizard:
most normal people use "flathead" to mean "slotted". A flathead screwdriver is also techincally a flat blade screwdriver, but nobody calls it that.

Actually, I don't believe I'd ever heard the term flathead screwdriver until just now. It's usually flatblade screwdriver round here. Don't believe I've ever heard 'slotted' screw either - we just distinguish by calling them Phillips/cross and not-Phillips/not-cross.

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While cross-head/Phillips screws have advantages of precision you do need the right driver for the screw. If the driver is a different size and made of a stiffer material then it will mash up the head, making it all but impossible to get the damn screw out again. Sometime it can damage the screwdriver too, but you bought cheap tools, didn't you?

Another reason in favour of slotted screws, as I call them, is that you can apply extra torque more easily. That however can mash up the material held by the screw, but that's your call.

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monkeylizard

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SS is right. That's actually one reason for the Phillips design. It prevents over torque. The driver will slip out of the screw before it gets too much torque applied. That's the theory anyhow, but it usually just rounds out the screw head, forcing me to get a hacksaw and turn it into a slotted screw....

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Jengie jon

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quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
While cross-head/Phillips screws have advantages of precision you do need the right driver for the screw. If the driver is a different size and made of a stiffer material then it will mash up the head, making it all but impossible to get the damn screw out again. Sometime it can damage the screwdriver too, but you bought cheap tools, didn't you?

My understanding is a philips is different for a crosshead and you can create the exact problem above by using a Philips screwdriver on a crosshead or visa versa (this is courtesy of friend who is a local handyman).

Jengie

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Matt Black

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OK, reasonably serious question here (I'm not even sure to pose it here): we have an employee on whose computer we have found various porn pics and vids. Nothing illegal, but it violates our disciplinary stuff. He swears blind that his credit card was stolen (which we were aware of prior to this coming to light) and the thief downloaded the said images. My business partner and I are very sceptical of this explanation (I can accept that someone used his credit card to pay for the downloading but that doesn't explain how the stuff ended up on this guy's PC, does it?) but we want to make sure that we get this right and investigate it thoroughly. Neither of us are techies though so, for those of you who are, could our chap be telling the truth?

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I'd be struggling to think how it could end up on his computer without someone having access to said computer so either he's saying the person that nicked the credit card also used his computer or I'm thinking he's fibbing.

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A similar (but fortunately also quite different) question about computers.
My son has a computer for which I am administrator and he is a secondary user. He does not, or should not, know my password. Recently he scuppered his computer by making several changes to it, including installing linux and using an illegal back-up disc from a totally different computer to restore it. I think he may also have tried to install an illegal copy of Windows 7 on it. Plonker! My question is, would he be able to do those two processes without administrator rights? He has (in theory) no access to the internet. He actually assures me that loading these things is simply a matter of sticking the memory stick or CD-roms in the machine, regardless of administrator rights. I have a sneaking suspicion that he's either worked out my password or else made a second administrator-level user while it was on my settings, but I don't want to accuse him without more knowledge.

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Jengie jon

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You remember the old days when PCs came with a floppy disk that you had to keep secure against the day DOS got itself completely muddled. Well he has basically got hold of a similar disk for Linux. It is possible to make Boot disks for Linux and using these would bypass anyone being the administrator for the PC. To do it on a modern PC is slightly more skilled as I think you need to break into the startup process and reset the boot order.

However this sort of Linux isn't particularly friendly, getting it going is fairly easy but getting it with the right drivers so the PC actually responds properly is another. If he had at this stage realised it was not working, switched the machine off and removed the boot drive then he would have been okay. The next time the machine was started it would have booted normally.

My guess is he panicked and did not. The machine security was now compromised and he wanted to hide his tracks. As they say the rest is history.

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Jengie jon

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So the answer is basically yes.

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Emma Louise

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We have had our 10 year old diesel car for a year now and are about to get it MOT'd. Just wondering what happens in a "service" and if we need to pay for one. Aj can do things like change oil if he got the urge - what else does it include?
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quote:
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We have had our 10 year old diesel car for a year now and are about to get it MOT'd. Just wondering what happens in a "service" and if we need to pay for one. Aj can do things like change oil if he got the urge - what else does it include?

Depends on the garage. Some give it a wipe over with an oily rag and charge you £500 for the privilege, handing you a piece of paper that alleges they changed things and fixed things. One of them tried that with me. Trust them to pick the woman who used to strip a car engine down and reassemble it... [Disappointed]

Normally a service would include a full check of all major parts inside, outside, etc - wheels, brakes, suspension, transmission, engine performance, cooling systems, etc etc. Much of it difficult to isnpect as an amateur, unless you have an inspection pit in your front garden and the right engine management software thingy. I'd say if it's a garage that is well recommended and pleasant, it's worth it.

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Wet Kipper
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also depends on the car and the mileage/age
my car's first service (10,000 miles) was basically a visual check / test drive for certain items (brakes, tyres, headklights etc) which would be covered in an MOT but the car was only a year old, and changing of things like oil, air filter, pollen filter.

Subsequent services at various 10k "milestones" have included proper "take things to bits" checks of items/systems like brakes, air conditioning etc, and later services when the car gets older will include stuff like timing belts which seem expensive to replace when the time comes, but cause even more expensive damage to the engine, should they fail.

Your car should have an instruction manual which tells you what is required either at each type of service (major / minor) and how often they are, or a run down of what the milage is and what should be checked.

Hopefully you bought a car which also came with a history of what has been checked in the past, and when.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
You remember the old days when PCs came with a floppy disk that you had to keep secure against the day DOS got itself completely muddled. Well he has basically got hold of a similar disk for Linux. It is possible to make Boot disks for Linux and using these would bypass anyone being the administrator for the PC. To do it on a modern PC is slightly more skilled as I think you need to break into the startup process and reset the boot order.

When my 2004 laptop somehow got buggered up a year ago I rescued some files off it using a Linux boot disc. IIRC the laptop was set by default to boot from the CD-ROM drive first, therefore no break-ins were required.

In any case, I presume that by "administrator rights" Smudgie is referring to the settings within Windows, not to the computer's own startup process which runs before Windows loads. In which case, to mess with the startup order, you just press F-something on the first screen and then alter the boot order from the appropriate menu - no special privileges are needed.

(i.e. Smudgie (so to speak) own the keys to the house: but anyone can open the garden gate.)

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Jengie jon

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Sorry had not thought that any one would not know that the startup process was separate from Windows. I think I may have been too long in this line of business.

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Gwai
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Anyone have any good ways to receive an item that stores won't ship into the country? Need to buy an stupid cheap alarm clock that is sold online in Britain but not here.
Won't put the whole saga here, PM me if you're curious.

edit: Will be mostly offline this weekend, so if you answer and I don't answer you, I'm not ignoring you.

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[Tangent]
quote:
Originally posted by Wet Kipper:
and changing of things like oil, air filter, pollen filter.

Sadly, on my aged but nippy Volvo, a design fault in the Swedish brai.. concept means that the replacement of the pollen filter on the a/c costs about $1300 ... the filter costs about $12. Go figure.

After a few years the original filter dies, taking the entire air con down with it.

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Oh my yes. The brake light in my Mini Cooper costs $6.00. But it can't simply be replaced, oh no, it needs a 'brake light assembly' and a big chunk of time at $120/hr labor.

And that's before they discovered all the other problems to the tune of $2500.

All I wanted was an oil change and a working brake light so the car would pass inspection!

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In very hot weather I like to eat chocolate-covered coffee beans instead of drinking hot coffee.

I'm curious about how much caffeine I'm getting. Does anyone have any idea how many coffee beans would have the equivalent amount of caffeine as a twelve-ounce mug of coffee?

I realize it's unlikely that anyone can answer this. I'm just hoping.

Moo

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lilBuddha
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Depends on the type of coffee.
According to this site, one ounce (28g) has 224 milligrams of caffeine.*
Assuming drip coffee, 12oz. contains 200 to 300 mg.

*Doesn't say variety, but I would assume it is the cheaper robusta which has more caffeine then arabica.

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lilBuddha
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jlg,

Is that a new Mini, or an old Mini? Do you trust the mechanic? I would get a second opinion, I think.

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jlg

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It's an old new Mini (2002 - BMW era). No choice of mechanic since they craftily made everything tool specific to the dealership. You can't even change the oil or take off a door panel with any tools you can buy at Sears.

The only equivalent I know is our Heartland wood-burning stove, which has unique screws for the stovepipe. But they had the decency to provide us with the screwdriver.

It's a great car to drive, the gas mileage is good, and as long as you ignore it, it does the Energizer Bunny thing and just keeps on going.

But get it near the dealership for an oil change and watch the dollars flow.

We've had BMWs in the past and experienced the same thing. Wonderful vehicle, extortionate service costs, even when you can find a decent local person.

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quote:
Originally posted by jlg:
We've had BMWs in the past and experienced the same thing. Wonderful vehicle, extortionate service costs, even when you can find a decent local person.

It's not often you find the words "BMW" and "decent person" in such close proximity ... [Devil]

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jlg

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"local" was the key word there. The environs of Tiny Town New Hampshire included a local guy who specialized in foreign car repairs.

Sadly, the very modest rates he charged for labor didn't completely offset the nasty BMW (no copies allowed!) costs of the parts.

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In the excellent BBC Four factual, 'How to build a cathedral', it was claimed right at the start that '[mediaeval] cathedrals are the tallest buildings since the pyramids.'

This has left me wondering if that's true, or not. Weren't there any other man-made structures just as tall, perhaps in India or China? Or the famous multi-storey houses in Yemen?

Any thoughts?

Thank you. [Smile]

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According to this table in Wikipedia, it looks like the taller of the cathedrals are actually taller than the pyramids. No other ancient buildings are mentioned (which disappoints me).

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I know that in theory a UK citizen doesn't need a passport to go to the Republic of Ireland, but in practice can you get on a plane without one? Presumably you need to have some form of ID. Does anyone know if they'd accept a foreign (US) driving license?

If people really want to know the thoroughly weird situation that means I need to know this, I'd be happy to explain...

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I suppose it may depend on where you get on the plane.

Would polyurethane work as a sealant for a wooden deck? I would like to keep the natural look of the wood if possible.

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Wet Kipper
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Hart - check with the airline website. Quite often (if you can find it) they will have small print which says "Photographic Identification of the following types:{...} are required for internal UK flights" and they may have separate rules for the Republic of Ireland

I for one am intrigued as to how someone with only a US driver's license (i.e. no passport)can find themsielves in the UK...

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Anyone with experience of dyeing or painting cane furniture?

I would like to get old, pale chair to match new mahogany-coloured sofa.

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Wet Kipper
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quote:
Originally posted by Gwai:
Anyone have any good ways to receive an item that stores won't ship into the country? Need to buy an stupid cheap alarm clock that is sold online in Britain but not here.

Find a friendly local who can recieve the item for you in the UK ,and then post it on to you in the US.

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Firenze, I repainted scruffy woven cane furniture, in a colour similar to the previous colour. I can't remember what sort of paint I used, but most of the paint seemed to disappear between the woven bits, and I used a lot more paint than I'd anticipated. End result was fine, though.
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quote:
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Anyone with experience of dyeing or painting cane furniture?

I would like to get old, pale chair to match new mahogany-coloured sofa.

I think it comes out better if you use spray paint.

Moo

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Firenze If you are staining the chair it will probably take at least two coats. You can also see if you can get a sample from the paint store and put some in a small area to see if the stain/paint comes out the color you want. Going over the chair with some sandpaper will help the stain/paint job as well.

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Wet Kipper
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Hart - from the bmi website:
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A passport is not required for travel between Great Britain, Northern Ireland and the Channel Islands.
It should be noted that immigration controls are enforced in the Republic of Ireland for customers who are not British or Irish citizens, who are required to carry a valid travel document when arriving from Great Britain. However, British or Irish citizens travelling with bmi (including unaccompanied children) are required to bring either a passport or some form of acceptable photographic identification when travelling between the UK and the Republic of Ireland.

(my bold)

and then later on the same page:
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Acceptable forms of photographic ID include:

Valid passport
Valid photographic driver's licence
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I only once went to the Republic of Ireland over the land border. It was a few years ago now. No-one asked for a passport. No-one even checked my train ticket. It was harder to get into the station in Belfast (these were the days of military checkpoints) than it was to get onto or off the train there or in Dublin.

I once flew to Cork airport and there were no passport checks either but I'm pretty sure that's now changed. This was about 1999. There were some people from Eastern Europe in our party and they were quite surprised. I just walked off the plane and over to a bar and they were expecting someone top come and look at their papers but it never happened.

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quote:
Originally posted by Hart:
I know that in theory a UK citizen doesn't need a passport to go to the Republic of Ireland, but in practice can you get on a plane without one? Presumably you need to have some form of ID. Does anyone know if they'd accept a foreign (US) driving license?

It depends to some extent on which airline you're flying with (check their website: some insist on a passport), and where you're travelling from, but a passport is a universally recognized form of ID. Also, if the airline suddenly goes bust/on strike/your flight is cancelled, a driving licence may not be acceptable to the replacement carrier. You may also need it if you want to change money at the other end, check into a hotel, etc. Again, this varies, but if you have one, it makes sense to bring it.
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quote:
Originally posted by rugasaw:
Would polyurethane work as a sealant for a wooden deck? I would like to keep the natural look of the wood if possible.

I don't think it would work for very long. I don't believe polyurethane is meant for outdoor use. I may be wrong.

You might like a specific wood sealant better. Something like
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quote:
Originally posted by Wet Kipper:

I for one am intrigued as to how someone with only a US driver's license (i.e. no passport)can find themsielves in the UK...

Thanks, all, for the info. The situation is this: I'm a UK national who now lives in the US. I never had a driving license when I lived in the UK, but I have a US one now. This summer, I'll be back in the UK for a month, but during that time, the US embassy will have my passport (to put a new visa in it) and I have a wedding in Ireland to get to.

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quote:
Originally posted by jedijudy:
quote:
Originally posted by rugasaw:
Would polyurethane work as a sealant for a wooden deck? I would like to keep the natural look of the wood if possible.

I don't think it would work for very long. I don't believe polyurethane is meant for outdoor use. I may be wrong.

You might like a specific wood sealant better. Something like
this.

There are urethanes for outdoor use. Polyurethanes are typically a coating vs a penetrate. A coating sits on the surface, at least in part. What does this mean? A coating offers more protection for the wood's physical surface, as you are walking on it, not the wood. The downside is that coatings tend to show wear in traffic areas. And reapplication is more labour intensive.
A penetrate, such as an oil, shows less wear as it penetrates deeper.
A note: Clear finishes allow the wood to grey.

Here is an article with some good information.
And another.
Though products change all the time. I would ask at the point of purchase. Though more and more this is futile.

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OK, "mother of teenage boy with computer" question again here.
If a boy had a computer with no internet access, and a mobile phone which, as most seem to these days, has easy internet access, would a bluetooth dongle enable him to access the internet on his computer. And is there any way I can restrict this apart from confiscating his entire computer?

He. Is. Driving. Me. Insane.

(Edited to add that I do not want completely to prevent him accessing the internet, I just want a bit more control over what and when he accesses it)

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quote:
Originally posted by Hart:
Thanks, all, for the info. The situation is this: I'm a UK national who now lives in the US. I never had a driving license when I lived in the UK, but I have a US one now. This summer, I'll be back in the UK for a month, but during that time, the US embassy will have my passport (to put a new visa in it) and I have a wedding in Ireland to get to.

I flew into Ireland from the south of England a couple of years ago intending to use my UK driving license for photographic identification, which would have been fine, except that I was born in the US, so my driving license could only be used as proof of identification, not proof of nationality. I had left my UK passport in Scotland thinking that my driving license would be sufficient (and it would, if I'd been born in the UK). Luckily my mother is of a generation where getting on a plane requires a passport so I had my US passport on me 'just in case'.

I think immigration at Irish airports sometimes make a point of checking thoroughly all flights coming in from UK airports, just to remind everyone that they are a separate country.

It's probably worth checking. With both your airline and the airport you will be flying in to.

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quote:
Originally posted by Smudgie:
would a bluetooth dongle enable him to access the internet on his computer. And is there any way I can restrict this apart from confiscating his entire computer?

Hi Smudgie! I don't know if a bluetooth dongle could do that, but if so, one simple if drastic way to prevent it working would be to superglue all the computer's USB ports.

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Originally posted by To The Pain:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hart:
[qb]I flew into Ireland from the south of England a couple of years ago intending to use my UK driving license for photographic identification, which would have been fine, except that I was born in the US, so my driving license could only be used as proof of identification, not proof of nationality.

The UK Driving Licence isn't a proof of nationality wherever you're from. It's exactly what it says - a licence that entitles you to drive in this country.

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quote:
Originally posted by Smudgie:
OK, "mother of teenage boy with computer" question again here.
If a boy had a computer with no internet access, and a mobile phone which, as most seem to these days, has easy internet access, would a bluetooth dongle enable him to access the internet on his computer. And is there any way I can restrict this apart from confiscating his entire computer?

He. Is. Driving. Me. Insane.

(Edited to add that I do not want completely to prevent him accessing the internet, I just want a bit more control over what and when he accesses it)

Yes, with most phones that would be pretty easy.

You could consider getting him a phone contract (or pay-as-you-go) with Three, who have filtering on to stop you accessing adult sites.

Regarding the computer, what type is it? I only know how this stuff works on a Mac. If that's what he has, then there's a system of parental controls you can apply. Make sure he has his own user account on the computer which is separate from yours, and that his is not an admin account. Then you can turn on parental controls in System Preferences, which can first of all restrict what websites he can go to, and can also restrict the times at which the computer can be used (with separate settings for school nights and weekends). With parental controls on and an account that is not admin, he wouldn't be able to connect the computer to his phone either.

Whatever the type of computer, if he's able to set it up and configure it himself then all bets are off. If you start getting into a technical solutions war, then anyone with physical access to a computer can remove pretty much any restriction. You can only make it difficult, not impossible, and for a technically-inclined teen with a problem with parental authority then that could be seen as a challenge to beat the restrictions just because they're there. Is there a non-technical solution you could use instead? (I.e. threatened punishment if he's going to undesirable websites, or whatever).

Failing that, hire an electrician to put in a big switch that lets you cut the power to his bedroom [Smile]

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Originally posted by Smudgie:
would a bluetooth dongle enable him to access the internet on his computer. And is there any way I can restrict this apart from confiscating his entire computer?

Hi Smudgie! I don't know if a bluetooth dongle could do that, but if so, one simple if drastic way to prevent it working would be to superglue all the computer's USB ports.
Regarding my previous post about seeing restrictions as a challenge: when I was a teen, my response to that would have been to open the case of the computer, dismantle the bluetooth dongle, and connect it straight to the computer's motherboard inside. Easiest done with a soldering iron, but doable with tin foil and sticky tape if you're desperate. If you go that route, make sure he can't get the case off!
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quote:
Originally posted by Smudgie:
OK, "mother of teenage boy with computer" question again here.
If a boy had a computer with no internet access, and a mobile phone which, as most seem to these days, has easy internet access, would a bluetooth dongle enable him to access the internet on his computer. And is there any way I can restrict this apart from confiscating his entire computer?

He. Is. Driving. Me. Insane.

(Edited to add that I do not want completely to prevent him accessing the internet, I just want a bit more control over what and when he accesses it)

The short answer is, yes... maybe. Here is a simple guide. I think, however, that he will not be able to do this unless he (or someone on his behalf) is paying for a suitable data plan/package. If they are not, then his phone will simply refuse to connect him. Just because his phone has internet access doesn't necessarily mean it will let his computer piggy-back on that (i.e. allow tethering). His network provider should be able to give you more info on this - try their website initially.

Of course, as you are probably aware, the bluetooth dongle will give him the ability to a number of things that you are probably quite happy with e.g. back up his phone's data on the computer, download pics from his phone to the computer, transfer to the phone telephone software, ring tones etc. which have been downloaded onto the computer.

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quote:
Originally posted by Smudgie:
OK, "mother of teenage boy with computer" question again here.
If a boy had a computer with no internet access, and a mobile phone which, as most seem to these days, has easy internet access, would a bluetooth dongle enable him to access the internet on his computer. And is there any way I can restrict this apart from confiscating his entire computer?

He. Is. Driving. Me. Insane.

(Edited to add that I do not want completely to prevent him accessing the internet, I just want a bit more control over what and when he accesses it)

Simple answer is yes. Actually give your sons recent behaviour supergluing the USB ports sounds moderate and sane, if you did not want to do that, then find someone who can disconnect them physically inside the machine. If you know someone who knows something about machinery they also may be able to disable USB in the bios. You get to the bios by hitting keys early before Window starts.

If you have bluetooth on the machine then get someone to remove the driver or disable what ever bit of machinery runs it would be another way forward.


It sounds to me as if you really need to look at working out some bios security for his machine. My normal attitude to doing such things is at your peril, but you having a password and setting the boot order, plus stopping usb ports from working seems to me sensible.

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Originally posted by Amorya:
when I was a teen, my response to that would have been to open the case of the computer, dismantle the bluetooth dongle, and connect it straight to the computer's motherboard inside. Easiest done with a soldering iron, but doable with tin foil and sticky tape if you're desperate.

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