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monkeylizard

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quote:
Originally posted by pimple:
How does Flickr work? Is it idiot-proof? Really idiot-proopf? Pimplidiotpruf?

You sign in, upload photos, choose to share them (or don't) with or without password to access them.

Done.

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Wesley J

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Originally posted by Wesley J:
Question:

I'm trying to buy fairtrade and/or organic food if ever possible, and am only using refined sugar very rarely. (I find it doesn't have that nice crunch of raw sugar.)

The last batch of organic, non-fairtrade brown sugar (Brazilian Jacutinga) I bought seems to have a very strong smell and taste of its own, not unpleasant certainly, but not really what I want in my tea; I'd love to experience the luvverly taste of my tea selection with only a hint of added sweetness.

Could it be that unrefined cane sugar taste different from sugar-beet? Or is it the organic vs non-organic that makes the difference? Or perhaps it's just grown in a different place, or is it of a different type? (I guess I'll go back to the fairtrade Paraguay one I had before.)

Many thanks for your comments, Ship's expert chefs. [Smile]

Ok, that one's been answered since, for which I say kindly thanks - it appears that quite unlike refined white sugar, brown unrefined one may very well come in a range of tastes and scents, depending on where and when it is grown.

So, more foodstuff to play and experiment with then. Nice! [Cool]

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Jengie jon

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Alright another book request. I am trying to make sense of a variety of sociologist writing about church history. It is interesting to say the least. What I would like at the moment is a decent history of the Christian Church in the British Isles from 1700 to the present day.

What it must not be is a history of the Anglican (or any other denomination for that matter) Church with the others tacked on. Also it should not be a history of where English Church history is treated as normative with the rest of the British Isles treated as secondary with minor adaptation. Nor should it be a history of where Scottish Church history is treated as normative with the rest of the British Isles treated as secondary with minor adaptation.

If one book won't provide that could people suggest a good English Church History and a good Scottish Church History for this time.

I am not a historian but with my reading I am increasingly suspecting English Scholars of making Scotland in their own image and visa versa. What I want to do is to draw out two time lines so I can map the different paths.

Jengie

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BroJames
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For English Church History of the twentieth century I would recommend Adrian Hastings: A History of English Christianity 1920-2000. Given the thickness of this book I am not confident that it will be very easy to find one volume covering the period - even for England alone or Scotland alone - which would give a 'decent history'.

If you do find a decent book for Scottish Church History over that period I would be very interested to know about it.

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North East Quine

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I keep checking for an answer to your question, Jengie, because I, too, would be interested in a good overview of Scottish church history.

Several years ago I did the OU course, "Religion in Victorian Britain" which covered a lot of ground in both English and Scottish church history for that period, but had the annoying habit of using Anglican words assuming they would be readily understood, and then carefully explaining Scottish terms in words of one syllable.

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Originally posted by BroJames:
Is it gethuman.com?

Yay! Thank you! I lost track of this thread during H&A.

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mousethief

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We have a chipper-shredder with a one-cylinder, four-stroke engine. It has taken to backfiring something fierce, and we wonder what if anything, with our meagre engineering skills, we can do to stop this. Would replacing the spark plug help? Replacing the air filter? Or do we just need to haul it to the shop?

Thanks.

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Lothlorien
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quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
We have a chipper-shredder with a one-cylinder, four-stroke engine. It has taken to backfiring something fierce, and we wonder what if anything, with our meagre engineering skills, we can do to stop this. Would replacing the spark plug help? Replacing the air filter? Or do we just need to haul it to the shop?

Thanks.

Just a couple of suggestions from what would probably be called a bush mechanic down here. Take spark plug out and clean it. May well make a difference. We had similar problems with a powerful Kawasaki brushcutter when we had a holiday place in the bush down here. Eventually we learned to always check the tiny exhaust before we started it. It was only a small opening but very often it had been blocked by a wasp nest or by wasp eggs being laid in tube which was then filled with mud.

Perhaps it really just needs a service.

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Qoheleth.

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Originally posted by Qoheleth.:
What's with the 12 inch high temporary polythene sheet fences that sprout randomly around the verges of UK motorways?

I noticed some new, rather permanent, structures of similar form on the Bedford bypass this weekend. Sorry - no camera. Memo to self: go on photo-fence-safari next weekend.
Now found the answer to my own question. [Biased]

So, as no-one here seemed to know the answer, behold I give you Newt Fencing .

That's better. [Yipee]

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monkeylizard

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quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
We have a chipper-shredder with a one-cylinder, four-stroke engine. It has taken to backfiring something fierce, and we wonder what if anything, with our meagre engineering skills, we can do to stop this. Would replacing the spark plug help? Replacing the air filter? Or do we just need to haul it to the shop?

Thanks.

MT, backfiring is normally caused when fuel vapors still exist in the cylinder during the exhaust cycle. There's no spark during that step, so the explosion is caused by the hot piston igniting the fuel while the exhaust valves are open.

The root problem in that scenario is that there's fuel in the exhaust stage. It should have all burned up during the compression/ignition stage.

Changing the spark plug would be an easy (and usually cheap) first step. If the plug is misfiring, it would fail to ignite during the ignition stage and would leave the fuel/air mix intact during the exhaust stage.

If that doesn't solve it, you likely have a fuel/air mix problem. If it's running too lean there's not enough fuel to ignite. If it's too rich, not enough air to ignite. If you still ahev the manual (or can find one online), there may be a set screw that can adjust the mix from the carb.

I'm not a mechanic, but I play one on the Internet.

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monkeylizard

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And changing the air filter wouldn't hurt if it's cheap. Otherwise, just take it out and knock it on something to shake the loose dirt out.

And check your oil. If it's low, a valve could be getting stuck.

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quote:
Originally posted by Qoheleth.:
quote:
Originally posted by Qoheleth.:
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Originally posted by Qoheleth.:
What's with the 12 inch high temporary polythene sheet fences that sprout randomly around the verges of UK motorways?

I noticed some new, rather permanent, structures of similar form on the Bedford bypass this weekend. Sorry - no camera. Memo to self: go on photo-fence-safari next weekend.
Now found the answer to my own question. [Biased]

So, as no-one here seemed to know the answer, behold I give you Newt Fencing .

That's better. [Yipee]

I am amazed that there are 35 products available in the newt fencing section of that website.

And I love the slogan(?): Wildlife Fencing - Outstanding in its field. Surely that would have to be intentional??

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Wesley J

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[...] Originally posted by Lots of Yay:
I am amazed that there are 35 products available in the newt fencing section of that website.

And I love the slogan(?): Wildlife Fencing - Outstanding in its field. Surely that would have to be intentional??

Took me a moment to get over the image of newts indulging in the chivalrous sport of fencing! [Big Grin]

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OK we're moving to the US and we've bought a house and we're looking to get a bundle for telephone, broadband and television.

From searching the internet, it looks to me like Windstream is the only provider of land-line telephone service in the area. The only other bundle provider is Time Warner Cable with internet-only telephone and I have no idea how this works.

Have people had experience of these providers? Is there anything to look out for? Does internet telephone substitute for a land-line? (Part of me wonders if we're setting up house from scratch if we just get cellphones instead.)

If you order a certain speed broadband, do you get it? At the moment, our provider is supposed to be providing 'up to' 8Mbps but we actually get 1.8Mbps. I ask because Windstream has options for slower or faster internet speeds.

TimeWarner Cable distinguishes between HD TV and ordinary TV; I thought all television had to be HD by July?

I might think of some other questions later!

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Amanda B. Reckondwythe

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All TV has to be digital but not HD. If you have a high-density TV set, you should order HD; otherwise there's no point.

Usually one or two providers have a monopoly in the area. I don't know anything about Windstream, but at least Time-Warner is a recognizable name. You might want to do some research (Google is your friend) to see what the general consensus is about the quality and reliability of each provider.

Cellphones are great for home use until you have to dial 911 (the emergency services number). My understanding is that the 911 system can track the address of where the call is coming from, but not if the call is placed on a cellphone. There may be times when you have to dial 911 but are unable to give the operator your address (for example, you are choking on something and can't talk, or someone broke into your house and you don't want them to hear you talking on the phone).

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Seeker963
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Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
All TV has to be digital but not HD. If you have a high-density TV set, you should order HD; otherwise there's no point.

We can't take any of our electrical appliances from the UK to the US, so we have to buy everything new. (And people here seem to be expecting me to give all my electrical appliances away 'because I don't need them any more', but that's another discussion entirely.)

quote:
Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
Cellphones are great for home use until you have to dial 911 (the emergency services number). My understanding is that the 911 system can track the address of where the call is coming from, but not if the call is placed on a cellphone. There may be times when you have to dial 911 but are unable to give the operator your address (for example, you are choking on something and can't talk, or someone broke into your house and you don't want them to hear you talking on the phone).

Wow, that's truly screwed up! How bizarre. The Automobile Association can track my cellphone here; they just ask your permission and they know exactly where you are. (Although it's not as screwed up as the fact that when my parents had a medical emergency in their independent living house which is part of an elder-care community that we couldn't dial 911 from there either.)

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Leetle Masha

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Sorry to interrupt, but I think I just got a telephone "phishing" call, the second one in the last few months.

The recorded voice said, "Hello, this is Rachel from credit card services. There are no problems currently with your credit card account."

I think the voice went on, probably asking for credit card info, but I hung up.

Here's an article about a similar scam involving e-Bay: Phone phishing

Not a question, except to say that I don't know how to stop these calls except to use "call-block" on each one. They are all dialled by computers, always recordings and so every number they use is a different one. Trying to trace them requires long waits for contact with The Phone Co. to complain.... sigh.

Best, Mary

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Leetle Masha

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Footnote to what I just posted: I was immediately reluctant to hold onto the call in case the recorded voice ever announced what company was calling, as it referred only to "credit card services" and "your credit card" [singular].

Most people have more than one credit card, so I was immediately suspicious... if anyone waited until a live person came on, they might blurt out a number of credit card numbers, and then that'd be all she wrote!

Best, Mary
Some day, when I have time, I'll make a list of the times and numbers used by calls like this, and then call The Phone Co. and give them a bunch of those auto-dialled numbers all at one time. Too busy to do that right now, though.

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Hennah

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LM - not sure where you are, but if you're a UK shipmate, registering with the Telephone Preference Service should filter out these sort of calls. If you're non-UK there should be an equivalent...?

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Leetle Masha

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Thanks, Hennah. We have similar services over here, with which I've been registered for years...

However, these phishers use automated random dialling, so one cannot self-protect from the randomly dialled calls. Sigh.

Everyone should register, though, for the "Do Not Call" list. Only firms with which one actually does business are permitted to call you, and no one is obliged to give out any personal info to anyone making an unsolicited call. So that's something, anyway....

Some day, the cops will figure out how to stop these creeps.... My local police stopped one--turned out to be a bill collector trying to reach somebody with my exact same name! Whatcha gonna do, if you have a name like Jane Jones....

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Campbellite

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quote:
Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
Cellphones are great for home use until you have to dial 911 (the emergency services number). My understanding is that the 911 system can track the address of where the call is coming from, but not if the call is placed on a cellphone.

I believe this is only true of some of the older (and cheaper) cell phones. Most of them now DO have GPS tracking.

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Campbellite

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Masha, I have gotten similar calls. If you listen longer, it will give you an option to talk with one of their "representatives" about your account. As soon as I have a live person, I utter the magic words, "This number is on the Do Not Call list."

*click*

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Seeker963
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Originally posted by Hennah:
LM - not sure where you are, but if you're a UK shipmate, registering with the Telephone Preference Service should filter out these sort of calls. If you're non-UK there should be an equivalent...?

To continue to derail my own question...This list doesn't stop existing companies calling you. We get a call about once a month from a company with whom we had a loan ages ago.

Also, at one point, my husband started a small business and the telephone number somehow got listed as the fax number. We got phone calls in the dead of night from fax machines - presumably trying to send advertising materials through. There is nothing like the phone ringing at 3:00 in the morning if you want to try to induce a heart attack.

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Leetle Masha

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Oh you poor soul! What agony!

I find that with real, existing companies, if they identify themselves, all I have to do is say to them in firm tones, "You Know, I Am On The Do Not Call List. Please Do Not Call Here Again."

They get scared and they stop calling.

But if they're not legit, or if you are currently doing business with them, they will call, hopefully not at 3 a.m. What a shame you got that fax number!

I have a phone no. that is one digit away from a large chain store that sells linens and bath products. I often get calls where somebody just didn't take care when dialling, asking me if I have Egyptian cotton bath towels or lace tablecloths, and sometimes, if I'm not paying attention, I'll say "Yes" and then not know quite what to do when they start giving dimensions and asking prices.... [Ultra confused]

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mousethief

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One of my uni professors invited his (very small) class to a reception at his home, with the instructions that we MUST rsvp, and he would only say that his number was one digit off the number of the Radio Shack at Northgate (local shopping mall). We all made it. (ETA: and no, we didn't have to call 10 people; nobody made a misplaced call.)

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quote:
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Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
Cellphones are great for home use until you have to dial 911 (the emergency services number). My understanding is that the 911 system can track the address of where the call is coming from, but not if the call is placed on a cellphone.

I believe this is only true of some of the older (and cheaper) cell phones. Most of them now DO have GPS tracking.
Regardless of GPS capabilities, the approximate location of an active cell phone can be determined by the cell network. At the coarsest, the system at least knows which tower you are connected to. However, most cell towers have directional antennae arrayed around them in 15° increments, allowing crude triangulation. This is true for the phone being on, not necessarily in a call. This is how some phones were able to have urban mapping functions even without GPS.
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A lot of these callers (if not all) withhold their number. In the Uk it is possible to block all calls from withheld numbers but beware of that because a number of legit organisations block their number. For example the local hospital does so if you block withheld numbers you will not be able to receive any calls from them.

Actually since it is possible for the number dialed to be that of an organisations main switch board or even their call centre I can see no reason why anyone should be allowed to withhold their number.

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Can anyone help with this?
We project the words to hymns. I would like to keep within copyright law, so am trying to track down the copyright address for Bryn Rees, who wrote "The kingdom of God is justice and joy" to ask permission to use his hymns. Everywhere I have looked on the internet just says "Copyright: Bryn Rees" or "Copyright: Morfydd Rees" (He died in 1983), but no address. Does anyone know how I can contact the copyright holder?
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It is in our hymn book. The copyright holder for the words is Mrs. Olwen Scott and for the music it is Paul Bateman. As I am a Presbyterian, I must let you know that the name of the tune that we use is OUT SKERRIES. [Smile]

Paul Bateman's address is given as 134 Conway Road, London, UK, N14 7BJ. No address is given for Mrs. Scott.

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Thanks, It is in our hymn book (Hymns & Psalms), but they have Bryn still as the copyright holder. We are not reproducing the music, just the words onto the projector, but it is not covered under CCLI (as far as I can see), so I think I need to write direct to the copyright holder, but how, if there is no address??
There are a few others that I am also trying to find. As a last resort I suppose I could go via the publisher of the hymn book, but isn't there an easier way?

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Do you have hymn books in the pews? If you do, then you are probably okay.

I can't find an address for Mrs. Olwen Scott but I have found three other references to her holding the copyright. You could send an inquiry to the address you do have for the music writer and ask what to do. Contacting the hymnal publisher might work too.

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quote:
Originally posted by Hennah:
LM - not sure where you are, but if you're a UK shipmate, registering with the Telephone Preference Service should filter out these sort of calls.

It filters out a lot but it can't stop ones that originate overseas.

Which is why I stopped using the answering machine, because I got fed up with coming home to find messages from recorded voices saying "Hi! You've just won a cruise to Florida!" and going on pretty much until the tape ran out.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Kat in the Hat:
Thanks, It is in our hymn book (Hymns & Psalms) ...As a last resort I suppose I could go via the publisher of the hymn book, but isn't there an easier way?

If you have the hymn books, why not just use them?

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Wesley J

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quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
[...] Which is why I stopped using the answering machine, because I got fed up with coming home to find messages from recorded voices saying "Hi! You've just won a cruise to Florida!" and going on pretty much until the tape ran out.

With all due respect, Ariel - isn't there a feature that enables you to limit the recording time per call? I've had that on both machines I've used so for (one with microtape, one now as a voice/fax external modem). I limit recording to one minute per call.

[ 30. May 2009, 16:33: Message edited by: Wesley J ]

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Ariel
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No, my answering machine is probably about 20 years old. It gives you a set time for your message, but once the phone pest has your number, it can ring back again another time so you might get more than one message...
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quote:
Originally posted by The Kat in the Hat:
As a last resort I suppose I could go via the publisher of the hymn book, but isn't there an easier way?

I would think contacting the publisher would be the easier way. That would have been my first choice.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Kat in the Hat:
am trying to track down the copyright address for Bryn Rees, who wrote "The kingdom of God is justice and joy" to ask permission to use his hymns.

Complete Mission Praise (2005 edition) says that the words are © Alexander Scott of 4 Anthony Close, Colchester, Essex CO4 4LD.

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The Kat in the Hat
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Thanks for that, I didn't think of looking in Mission Praise.
We could use the hymn books, and may have to for those songs for which we can't get permission, but a large part of our congragation do like looking up to the projector for the words. My understanding of copyright says that we need permission to reproduce words in any format.

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Wesley J

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A question for BBC Radio 4 LW listeners:

If I can, I love to listen to the 'Daily Service' on Radio 4 LW, via the internet.

For at least two weeks, however, I haven't been able to catch that as live stream any more, and despite the correct URL address (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/ram/lwg2.ram). It seems that the Beeb, for whatever reasons, is broadcasting Radio 4 FM and 'Book of the Week' now at 9.45am even on LW, when they used to switch over for 15 minutes.

I have already complained to the BBC, but haven't received a reply yet - though they're normally quite good.

Has anyone else had this problem online? Thanks.

[ 01. June 2009, 09:12: Message edited by: Wesley J ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Wesley J:
For at least two weeks, however, I haven't been able to catch that as live stream any more, and despite the correct URL address (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/ram/lwg2.ram). It seems that the Beeb, for whatever reasons, is broadcasting Radio 4 FM and 'Book of the Week' now at 9.45am even on LW, when they used to switch over for 15 minutes.

Has anyone else had this problem online? Thanks.

Not tried online, but I've certainly heard the Daily Service on Radio 4 LW within the last fortnight (prior to the testmatch the other week!)

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Peter Owen
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quote:
Originally posted by Wesley J:
A question for BBC Radio 4 LW listeners:

If I can, I love to listen to the 'Daily Service' on Radio 4 LW, via the internet.

You need to visit the Daily Service's own web page.

Daily Service

This has links to let you listen to the last five programmes. I am listening to today's service as I type so I know it works.

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Wesley J

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Thanks, Carys and Peter Owen.

I am aware that I can listen again, and I knew it hadn't disappeared entirely - it's the livestream FM to LW switchover on the LW weblink posted above that isn't happening anymore. If my assumption is correct, then any LW programmes different from FM should not be availabe in streaming now.

Can't test that today though, because there's no cricket nor anything else different from FM, at least if I've correctly read the schedules. [Frown]

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quote:
Originally posted by Wesley J:
Thanks, Carys and Peter Owen.

Can't test that today though, because there's no cricket nor anything else different from FM, at least if I've correctly read the schedules. [Frown]

There's a split at midday -- LW has news headlines and shipping forecast where FM has a full news bulletin. And another at 1755 for the shipping forecast then while FM finishes off PM. Other split I can think of is Yesterday in Parliament at just after 8am.

Carys (who can tell the time by radio 4 programme!)

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Now we no longer have a car we hire one very occasionally. Does anyone know of a cheap hire company - preferably one in Uxbridge or one tat delivers to your door.

We currently use Enterprise who will pick you up and take you to their car hire place, but when you add on the insurance waiver etc it isn't that cheap.

We usually want one for 3-4 days, but we're thinking about doing 2 x one-way rentals for greenbelt - to get there and get back!

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quote:
Originally posted by The Kat in the Hat:
Thanks for that, I didn't think of looking in Mission Praise.
We could use the hymn books, and may have to for those songs for which we can't get permission, but a large part of our congragation do like looking up to the projector for the words. My understanding of copyright says that we need permission to reproduce words in any format.

Do check on that. The rules here say that we may project the words without additional permission as long as we have purchased copies in the pews.

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quote:
Originally posted by Emma Louise:
but when you add on the insurance waiver etc it isn't that cheap.

You should check the terms of your credit card (assuming you have one) - most of them have negotiated automatic rental car insurance coverage that is free to their users. So, you may not need to worry about the insurance stuff.
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I don't drive, but I've noticed adverts for a firm called Streetcar around here. Worth looking at?

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quote:
Originally posted by lily pad:
quote:
Originally posted by The Kat in the Hat:
Thanks for that, I didn't think of looking in Mission Praise.
We could use the hymn books, and may have to for those songs for which we can't get permission, but a large part of our congragation do like looking up to the projector for the words. My understanding of copyright says that we need permission to reproduce words in any format.

Do check on that. The rules here say that we may project the words without additional permission as long as we have purchased copies in the pews.
I've just been on the CCLI website & found this:
"A Church Copyright Licence (CCL) would be required to project hymns on a screen even if you have sufficient hymn books for your fellowship."
So I do think I need to get permission.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wesley J:
A question for BBC Radio 4 LW listeners:

If I can, I love to listen to the 'Daily Service' on Radio 4 LW, via the internet.

For at least two weeks, however, I haven't been able to catch that as live stream any more, and despite the correct URL address (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/ram/lwg2.ram). It seems that the Beeb, for whatever reasons, is broadcasting Radio 4 FM and 'Book of the Week' now at 9.45am even on LW, when they used to switch over for 15 minutes.

I have already complained to the BBC, but haven't received a reply yet - though they're normally quite good.

Has anyone else had this problem online? Thanks.

Forgive me, dear Shippies: If anyone'd be willing and try the RealPlayer link (to BBC Radio 4 Longwave) above from 9.45 to 10.00am BST (8.45 to 9.00am GMT), weekdays, I'd be very grateful.

If you can hear the Daily Service there and then (you know, that Christian thingy of singing hymns, scripture reading and praying and stuff [Biased] ), that'd be as it should then.

Feel free to PM me, or post your quick comment.

Sorry for insisting: but it's the immediacy and live reaction to daily events from a Christian worship point of view I find very refreshing. - Thanks muchly! [Angel]

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Wesley J

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Ok, update on my 'Quest for The Live Daily Service' on Radio 4 LW: I've googled for "BBC Radio 4 LW live stream" and on one non-BBC website (!), I've actually found a LW livestream link that works:
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rtsp://rmlive.bbc.co.uk/bbc-rbs/rmlive/ev7/live24/radio4/live/r4lw_dsat_g2.ra
The BBC's very own LW link, given on their website as
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/ram/lwg2.ram
however continues to broadcast FM, of which I shall inform them now.

Many thanks for your help! The matter's closed for now! [Overused]

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