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Welease Woderwick
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Originally posted by leo:
According to http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11826.html , 'Members of the US Westboro Baptist Church, who chant slogans such as "fags burn in hell", have unintentionally raised money for a gay rights group.'
So even the Devil can do the Lord's work.
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Kelly Alves
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I think that even the most avid evildoer will find out in the long run that they can't really interefere with God's work. The problem with God's work is that it usually happens at a glacial pace, whereas evil is better at quick and flashy.
IMHO, of course.
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Amazing Grace
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Amen, Kelly.
I have heard that 1) having a fundraiser and 2) letting them know about it* is a great way for them to "remember urgent appointments elsewhere".
(As Jennifer says, a lot of it is bluffing to get publicity.)
I will remember phelps-a-thon.com in case they threaten to show their face locally again. (They backed out of a Laramie Project staging around here last fall to go to Hawaii and "picket" Madelyn Dunham's funeral.)
* you don't even really have to write them. My experience is that they are in very close contact with the local police so you could pass the message along through them.
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Farmer, your link is broken.
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Sioni Sais
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The Phreddies, amongst others, are on the British government's "You Are Not Welcome Here" list.
A spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain says that people should be free to enter Britain, whatever their views, and I agree; their views are no concern of mine. When however, their views have been expressed in such a way as to make it likely that they will cause any disturbance, they I think the government should be able to keep people out.
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Try this to get to the Topeka Capital-Journal article cited by Frustrated Farmer.
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Frustrated Farmer
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Sorry about the link. I am not particularly savvy about a lot of computer tasks. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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Nicolemr
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I don't have a link, but if I'm not mistaken, Fred and Co were picketting the funeral of the abortion doctor that was recently murdered.
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Dogwalker
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WBC in Vermont
They showed up in Vermont to protest the start of same-sex marriages there.
(Vermont was first, I think, with civil unions. This year the legislature passed a same-sex marriage act.)
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Welease Woderwick
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Originally posted by sgk:
WBC in Vermont
They showed up in Vermont to protest the start of same-sex marriages there.
(Vermont was first, I think, with civil unions. This year the legislature passed a same-sex marriage act.)
Well done Vermont and well done those that raised the money to support Gay Rights groups! The Phelps contribution to raising awareness of the issues continues to grow.
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Originally posted by Wiff Waff:
The Phelps contribution to raising awareness of the issues continues to grow.
that Phreddy. he's just such a giver.
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DagonSlaveII
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They get their money though suing anyone who physically retaliates against them.
I actually got to watch one of their protests in person, when I went to Nicholls S U ... it was a mere handful of protesters and well over 300 students, at any given time. One was a small child. The students chanted "Save the Kid!" ...and no one laid a finger on them. I think I skipped a class to watch it. I love trainwrecks.
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sabine
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My city has two reasons to be on the Phelps-a-Thon .
Thursday 9/24 the Phelps crowd will be picketing outside one of our high schools where the play The Laramie Project will be performed. And they will also be making an appearance at the Jewish Community Center on the same day.
Many of us are trying to get local folks to contribute to the phelps-a-thon rather than provoke anything with angry counter rallies.
A student from the school stood up in church on Sunday and asked for prayers because they are nervous, but the play will go on.
sabine
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Nicolemr
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I just read in my local paper that Phelps and co will be in Great Neck, Long Island this Friday (9/25) but the article didn't say what they were picketing (it was actually about local government's request to the public to ignore them as much as possible). I'm slightly puzzled, I can't think of anything I've heard about that would attract their attention in these parts recently, and I don't want to go to their website to look. Anyone know what's up?
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Uncle Pete
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I don't know what's up, Nicole, but I would just like to point out that your post was number 666!
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Welease Woderwick
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If you follow sabine's link then Great Neck is mentioned 6 times on the Phelps-a-thon page - what a busy lot of little Phelpses they are going to be!
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Welease Woderwick
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p.s. the whole thing that day appears to be quite heavily anti-semitic.
eta: do you think we could get Mossad to quietly bump them all off?
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sabine
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Well, if you want a confrontation (and we are hoping not to have one here), our JCC has the best fitness facility in town. Lots of people in great shape....just sayin' -- not really intending to incite. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Nicolemr
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My goodness, I should have checked out that link long ago. It seems like they're going to be in Flushing, right next door to me, that day too. What a pity I have to be with my husband at the hospital while he has a hernia operation and I can't be there to counter protest.
Oh yeah, I noticed the 666 number after I posted, PeteC.
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sabine
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FYI, the Phelps-a-Thon web site will gather contributions toward organizations related to the Phelps hate list in each town and then....
...send a courteous thank you note to the Phelps crowd indicating how much was contributed and thanking them for the opportunity to raise funds. ![[Two face]](graemlins/scot_twoface.gif)
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comet
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for any shipmates planning to counter-rally - I want pictures!
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sabine
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Originally posted by comet:
for any shipmates planning to counter-rally - I want pictures!
The two target groups in my city have requested no counter-protests and have suggested, instead, that folks donate to the Phelps-a-Thon web site which will then direct the donations to local organizations.
Of course, there will probably be some people who counter-protest anyway, and if there is a picture on any of our media web sites, I'll post it.
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A friend of mine just told me this evening that she's going to be in 'The Laramie Project' and that someone mentioned the possibility of some wacko minister showing up. I told her about the Phelps-a-Thon website -- she was delighted with the idea and asked me to send her the link, which I did.
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sabine
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There was almost a complete media shut-out of Phelps et. al. here in Indy. Good, don't give them any attention.
I haven't been able to find out if any counter-protesters showed up or not. The school and community center asked that no one counter protest.
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Nicolemr
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Here's a link to an article about them here on Long Island today, including a link to some pictures of both the Phelps bunch and counter protestors.
Article here
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by sabine:
There was almost a complete media shut-out of Phelps et. al. here in Indy. Good, don't give them any attention.
I haven't been able to find out if any counter-protesters showed up or not. The school and community center asked that no one counter protest.
sabine
I'm beginning to think that way about the Phelpsians. "No reaction - no satisfaction".
Works with whiny kids, and that's the Phelpsian level of debate.
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Originally posted by Nicolemrw:
Here's a link to an article about them here on Long Island today, including a link to some pictures of both the Phelps bunch and counter protestors.
Article here
Following that link gave me the abbreviated heading quote:
Westboro group's anti-gay, anti-Jew demons...
That about sums it up!
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Nicolemr
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Tony K, that's odd, when I click on it it takes me to the article and pictures, and it's not that I'm registered with the site or anything. Are you sure you let it load fully, and scrolled down? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
edited because of silly typos.
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TonyK
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Nicolemrw - I'm having no trouble seeing the article - it's just that the heading (next to the Favourites icon in my V8 Internet Explorer) has this appropriate abbreviation for 'demonstration'.
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Tony K, Oh OK, misunderstanding straightened out. Yes, that is particularly appropriate somehow.
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I just ponied up $30 to the Phelps-a-thon. Money well spent. Fred, God loves you. But I think He's less than pleased with your behaviour. Remember that thing about not taking Christians to court? And love and charity with your neighbours?
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Good old Phred ended up making an appearance in neighbourhood for Yom Kippur. Literally right around the corner from where I live is the Kane Street Synagogue, which in the Conservative stream but has called female rabbis and does gay and lesbian commitment ceremonies.
He was out there for a few hours telling them that God really hates Jews and holding awful signs like "Thank God for the Holocaust" but they just ignored him and he left.
New York Daily News: Kansas Hate Group gives Brooklyn Synagogues flak
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They are invading Southern California with a vengeance in a week or so. Looking at their picketing schedule it looks like someone said "hey, while we're there hating the Jews, lets toss the dice and decide on a few schools and Christian fellowships to harass!" Weird.
Any idea why they are so ... obsessively vile?
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sabine
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Originally posted by TaliessinC:
Any idea why they are so ... obsessively vile?
fear-based hate, I'd think, with some frustration and perhaps a bit of thought disturbance thrown in.
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Welease Woderwick
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quote:
Originally posted by sabine:
quote:
Originally posted by TaliessinC:
Any idea why they are so ... obsessively vile?
fear-based hate, I'd think, with some frustration and perhaps a bit of thought disturbance thrown in.
sabine
...or they are all completely mental!
As a Quaker I believe that they have "that of God" within them, but some folks hide it better than others.
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I saw a TV listing for a recent episode of "Supernanny", where Jo was going to work with..."the Phelps family". If only! But I wouldn't wish that on Jo.
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Just so we do not forget these individuals are still amongst us, while Mrs. Farmer and I were walking into church last Saturday evening, the clan was busy standing across the street holding their signs. ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
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If you get picketed by the Phelpes, then you must be doing something right.
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Talk about mixed feelings. Still I don't think we need to be making laws like that about the flag, even if I'd like to see one of the Phelpses get tagged for it.
Did you see the name of their lawyer? I wonder if he goes to their church.
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Frustrated Farmer:
I am not skilled in providing links, but this article was in the local paper this evening:
http://cjonline.com/news/local/2009-12-07/phelps_roper_loses_appeal
Shirley lost her appeal today in Nebraska on flag desecration charges.
"In this country, the law is you can burn a flag, stand on it, destroy it to make your point," said Shirley Phelps-Roper.
This Brit has picked up enough to know that things vary from state to state, and it looks to my untutored eye that Shirley Phelps-Roper has fallen foul of a Nebraskan law. So her understanding of man's law is as accurate as her understanding of scripture. Big deal. Anyone surprised?
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Welease Woderwick
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Can she get life in a padded cell on a mere misdemanour charge?
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I thought the Supremes had ruled that flag desecration laws were unconstitutional?
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Welease Woderwick
Sister Incubus Nightmare
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Originally posted by Nicolemrw:
I thought the Supremes had ruled that flag desecration laws were unconstitutional?
Perhaps Diana Ross disagreed...
Sorry, I'll go away again.
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I brought this forward so more general sightings could be recorded...
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Readers of the prayer thread will recall the suicide of a young member of my parish -- one of four last year at the same railroad crossing by people from the same high school.
There was another death there a couple of days ago, and now the Branch Fred Phelpsians have announced that they're coming to the school.
There's a fundraiser for the school's GLBT alliance to go with the planned protest. If you're so disposed, take a look.
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