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God hates Batman?!
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Shipmates may be divided on everything from brands of toothpaste to the existance of God, but at least we can all seem to rally around a common disgust in Fred Phelps.
He's obviously a gift. Allelujah.
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Do you think they'd protest if Chick Tracts were on the comic book roster?
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
Do you think they'd protest if Chick Tracts were on the comic book roster?
Somewhere in the Phreddies bizarre doctrine I'm sure Jack Chick is designated a "fag-enabler".
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For what it's worth, my computer geek agnostic husband (who claims to keep up with the news on-line) is totally oblivious to Fred Phelps.
When I told him about Phelps and the Comic-con thing, he simply gave a slight shrug of "hey that's stupid" and then moved on with his life.
So I'm thinking that if the various Christians who disagree with Phelps would do the same (even if they have to do it in public when Phelps swoops down upon them), we could kill his campaign.
So here's the new motto: "Phelps? Westboro Baptist? Never heard of them."
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Spiffy
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The comics community is suggesting donating money to various charities in honor of Mr. Phelps. The campaign is entitled God Loves Batman.
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quote:
Originally posted by comet:
Shipmates may be divided on everything from brands of toothpaste to the existance of God, but at least we can all seem to rally around a common disgust in Fred Phelps.
He's obviously a gift. Allelujah.
My feelings, exactly. If Phelps is what it takes, then go forth, my Legion of Bad Monkeys!
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PaulBC
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Just looked at Phelps diatribe on Jn 3:16. She is WRONG. Her concept of God is sick beyond belief . What they are doing is defaming the Gospel message of Gods love. They are even offensive to agnostics & those who say there is no God . Honestly if I had to sit on a bus with either and athiest or Fred Phelphs give me the athiest please. ![[Smile]](smile.gif) ![[Angel]](graemlins/angel.gif)
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My favorite sign was "The Cylons destroyed the 12 Colonies for your sins!"
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More pics of said counter protest here.
Absurdity is the only sensible response.
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Do NOT fuck with nerds.
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Originally posted by PaulBC:
Just looked at Phelps diatribe on Jn 3:16. She is WRONG. Her concept of God is sick beyond belief . What they are doing is defaming the Gospel message of Gods love. They are even offensive to agnostics & those who say there is no God . Honestly if I had to sit on a bus with either and athiest or Fred Phelphs give me the athiest please.
Give ME the Kalashnikov (set to stun, naturally)
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Sorry Jahlove but an AK 47 would be a waste on WBC . One must allow them the possibility of repenting for their attutudes, heaven knows I have to every so often, or more frequnetly. Besides the outcome would be a term in prision , and they aren't worth it.
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Originally posted by Wilfried:
More pics of said counter protest here.
Absurdity is the only sensible response.
That made my WEEK.
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good on ya, fanguys'n'gals
It's given me a new sig an' all
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St. Stephen the Stoned
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Another report here, with more pics and an interview.
Sheesh.
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Do NOT fuck with nerds.
Preach it, sister!
I hope this (along with the fund-raising schemes cited elsewhere) inspires anyone targeted by Phelps to fight back at the same idiotic level.
Since they seem to get press coverage anyway (which is what they want), it seems the only way to fight back is to make them look like the idiots they are by throwing their tactics back in their face.
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I'm green with envy.
Does anyone know if there's a place you can sign up to ask Phred & Co. to come picket you? I can think of ANY NUMBER of great games we could play with them, if they'd only show up. Of course, they missed us out, last time they were in town. Shy little flowers.
Maybe we could start a website.
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Life gets better. Apparently Phred & Co. went to Dallas recently, protesting outside numerous places, including the Holocaust museum, a couple of churches, and a resource center that helps people with HIV/AIDS. The resource center turned it into a fundraiser (think: protest-a-thon, per-minute sponsorship) and raised $11,000 toward food prep equipment. Read here.
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quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
Life gets better. Apparently Phred & Co. went to Dallas recently, protesting outside numerous places, including the Holocaust museum, a couple of churches, and a resource center that helps people with HIV/AIDS. The resource center turned it into a fundraiser (think: protest-a-thon, per-minute sponsorship) and raised $11,000 toward food prep equipment. Read here.
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PaulBC
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There seems to be more Phelph like preacher s popping up w/their anti everything but what we say we believe attitudes . They don't realize what damage they do the cause of Christ. About even w/paedophile priests.
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I remember once watching a vid of a debate between Fred Phelps and another well known Christian. The subject was "God Hates Some People", or something like that. Fred took the affirmative, unsurprisingly. He won the debate, hands down, no questions asked. He had Bible verses, he could explain them, Joe Modern Christian(I don't rememeber the name of the loser of this debate)had nothing but his own opinion. He had to explain why his opinion contradicted the Bible, and then explain why that was OK. He had to put his modern morality in contraposition to what the Bible clearly says, and then try to make out that his was a Christian belief system.
He got trashed, thoroughly and humiliatingly, because Fred Phelps accurately reflects Biblical teachings.
Tom
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quote:
Originally posted by Columbus:
...Fred Phelps accurately reflects Biblical teachings.
Tom
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Spiffy
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quote:
Originally posted by Columbus:
He got trashed, thoroughly and humiliatingly, because Fred Phelps accurately reflects Biblical teachings.
You and Fred must be reading a different Bible than the one I've got.
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TSA, you may have missed the fact that Columbus is a religion-hating fuckwit* who doesn't actually believe a word of the Bible, but if he did believe it he'd believe it the same way Ol' Phred does.
*= you know the sort. "some religious people don't like people like me, therefore all religions throughout all time are evil and wrong". It must have been quite literally weeks since we've had one of those signing up to have a pop at us...
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Columbus:
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... because Fred Phelps accurately reflects Biblical teachings.
Tom
Even a warped mirror reflects accurately within its own constructs! See non-Euclidean geometry.
If the Phelpsian notion that God is punishing a Fag-enabling America through events like 9/11 and the war dead in Iraq and Afghanistan is in any way consistent with Christianity, could someone please let me know.
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Columbus
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No need to take potshots at the messenger, guys. I'm just describing a video I watched on godhatesfags.com, at least ten years ago. I just went back to god hates the world dot com to see if I could find it again, but I don't think it is still there.
The fact is that Fred made a very strong case that God does hate many people, backing it up with long lists of verses from God's Own Bible, the KJV. He was quite proud of it, and gave a full transcript putting all the verses he cited into context.
Many of the arguments he made can still be found here:
http://www.godhatestheworld.com/common/html/john316.html
Obviously, what Fred does is choose which verses he prefers and places more importance on them, then minimizes the importance of other conflicting verses.
But doesn't everybody do that to some extent?
I'd even go a step further. It looks to me like, given the last several centuries of wars, colonialism, and slavery, Fred's view is a good bit more "traditional" than most modern views of Christianity.
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I'd even go a step further.
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Preferably off a cliff, if you're agreeing with Ol' Phelpsy.
Funniest WBC moment I've seen on TV: Kieth Allen (Brit actor, now known as being father of singer Lilly Allen) asking the Phelpses which one was the illegitimate grandson.
I don't think I've ever seen a silence that tense.
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Columbus
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Quoting someone is hardly the same as agreeing with him.
Fred and I have some fundamental disagreements, including but not limited to, the existence of an omnipotent Being whose plans can be seriously thwarted by some bags of sensient protoplasm He Himself made, exactly as they are.
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Marvin, you are so right. I offer my apologies. With the yawn-inducing Yorick carrying Columbus's water for him I didn't bother to look to see the evidence on page two of his Purgatory thread. I promise I will not FtT, even when presented with flammatory language such as faggot.
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mousethief
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quote:
Originally posted by Columbus:
No need to take potshots at the messenger, guys. I'm just describing a video I watched on godhatesfags.com, at least ten years ago.
Don't lie to us. We can scroll up.
quote:
Originally posted by Columbus:
He got trashed, thoroughly and humiliatingly, because Fred Phelps accurately reflects Biblical teachings.
That's not just describing a video. It's making a judgment on its contents. And we're disagreeing with that judgment. You're not just the messenger here, you're the message.
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TSA, thanks for the link.
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Columbus
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quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
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Originally posted by Columbus:
No need to take potshots at the messenger, guys. I'm just describing a video I watched on godhatesfags.com, at least ten years ago.
Don't lie to us. We can scroll up.
I can't be bothered with lying to anyone. I tried to find the video so you could all describe your own reactions, but I couldn't. I posted a link to the best representation I could find. I've noticed that absolutely nobody responded to it.
At this point in the discussion I suppose I should call you an asshole or something. Hellish rules permit it and the forum culture seems to expect it. But I just think you are mistaken. I've made much worse mistakes. So, how about you try to explain to me why you think I am mistaken, knowing that I already think you are and will back up my opinions?
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Originally posted by Columbus:
He got trashed, thoroughly and humiliatingly, because Fred Phelps accurately reflects Biblical teachings.
That's not just describing a video. It's making a judgment on its contents. And we're disagreeing with that judgment. You're not just the messenger here, you're the message.
Sorry buddy, I am describing a video. A christian has a very unpopular, but soundly Bible based, opinion. That is the judgement I am making. I am not the message, I am the messenger. I am quoting a christian who quotes the Bible which quotes God.
Wanna hear a good quote from a white Protestant christian about why black people can't go to heaven? Check out StormFront.org and search for Rev. Mark Bannon.
I don't have to lie about any of this stuff. I can quote Christians about Christianity all day long.
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"Sorry buddy, I am describing a video. A christian has a very unpopular, but soundly Bible based, opinion. That is the judgement I am making."
MAKING A JUDGMENT is not DESCRIBING A MOVIE. Is English your first language?
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St. Stephen the Stoned
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Originally posted by Columbus:
...Fred Phelps accurately reflects Biblical teachings.
Tom
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Originally posted by Columbus:
Sorry buddy, I am describing a video. A christian has a very unpopular, but soundly Bible based, opinion. That is the judgement I am making. I am not the message, I am the messenger. I am quoting a christian who quotes the Bible which quotes God.
Wanna hear a good quote from a white Protestant christian about why black people can't go to heaven? Check out StormFront.org and search for Rev. Mark Bannon.
I don't have to lie about any of this stuff. I can quote Christians about Christianity all day long.
Tom
Hello Tom
So your purpose here on SoF is to have a whack at Christianity by quoting the most obnoxious dickheads in Christendom and claiming that they represent mainstream Christian belief.
Best of luck with that one, mate.
Hello and Goodbye, probably.
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guess what people....
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St. Stephen the Stoned
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Originally posted by fletcher christian:
guess what people....
one detected
So it's Goodbye Columbus.
(Can I be the first to say that?)
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I don't have to lie about any of this stuff. I can quote Christians about Christianity all day long.
Tom
If you're going spend all day quoting Christians about Christianity I'm sure some immigrant will be happy to do whatever work you're supposed to be doing.
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Originally posted by St. Stephen the Stoned:
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Originally posted by fletcher christian:
guess what people....
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So it's Goodbye Columbus.
(Can I be the first to say that?)
I've actually had that phrase in my head for several days.
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Originally posted by Columbus:
with long lists of verses from God's Own Bible, the KJV.
Ah, yes, the KJV. Which fell out of Jesus' pocket as he ascended into Heaven. It was so kind of him to ensure his words were written in red, wasn't it?
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Sioni, ROTFL!!!
Spiffy--but surely the Jefferson Bible is easier? No pesky searching for red. TJ did all the cutting and pasting for us!
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I wouldn't assume that Columbus knows who Thomas Jefferson is, seeing as he lived a couple hundred years before the latter worthy personage.
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It's a bit unclear, but apparently someone with an industrial-sized tear gas dispenser sprayed the protesters (and mourners, and cop) at a funeral for a Marine protested by the Westboro Baptist Church.
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Rule #1: Always be sure a cop isn't in the line of fire when you're drive by pepper spraying a group.
Phelps supposedly holds with Calvinism that some are pre-ordained before birth to be saved and everyone else is condemned to hell. Frankly, if he represents the "saved" I'd prefer the company in hell. Fortunately, I think he's dead wrong on just about everything he believes (it ain't Christianity he believes in) so I don't have to worry about that.
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