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Beautiful Dreamer
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Well I have seen his site about God hating Sweden, it is linked on his site about God hating gay people. Like an idiot, I clicked on a link in a thread about Phelps and it came to that site. I really should have known better than to think anything worth looking at could come from this guy. He is so ridiculous that it is really sad.

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I hardly think Pastor Fred is sad. He's done damn well for himself and his family.

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quote:
Originally posted by Squirrel:
I hardly think Pastor Fred is sad. He's done damn well for himself and his family.

What do you mean by this accusation?
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Yes, but look how many people he had to step on to do it. The fact that this thread has gone on as long as it has shows that he is at least successful in getting people to hate him. He seems to have made a living out of being completely depraved. I shudder to think what it must be like to be related to this guy.

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And here is another way to deal with these jerks... [Devil]

Solution?

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[ 02. August 2007, 08:57: Message edited by: comet ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Beautiful_Dreamer:
Yes, but look how many people he had to step on to do it. The fact that this thread has gone on as long as it has shows that he is at least successful in getting people to hate him. He seems to have made a living out of being completely depraved. I shudder to think what it must be like to be related to this guy.

From what I have read, most of his church is made up of relatives. So I gather those related to him share his views.

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I dunno. I think it's kinda sad that these people seem to fanatically devoted the Jesus and the Bible, yet seem to have missed the point so utterly. Like squeezing blood out of turnips or or getting yet another turn of the screw or some other apt metaphor for futility....


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quote:
Originally posted by Zach82:
I dunno. I think it's kinda sad that these people seem to fanatically devoted the Jesus and the Bible, yet seem to have missed the point so utterly. Like squeezing blood out of turnips or or getting yet another turn of the screw or some other apt metaphor for futility....


Zach

Are they? Sometimes, when people miss the point so badly, I wonder if they're actually fanatically devoted to queer-hating, and their devotion to Jesus and the Bible is driven by the support they believe they can twist out of it for their hatred fuelled agenda.

cf. Tomas de Torquemada.

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quote:
Originally posted by Saint Hedrin the Lesser-Known:
this just in?

Goodness! [Mad] [Mad] [Mad]

If that isn't a pisstake I'm quite proud of my little island for attracting the ire of the Phelps clan. [Yipee]
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quote:
Originally posted by Yerevan:
quote:
Originally posted by Saint Hedrin the Lesser-Known:
this just in?

Goodness! [Mad] [Mad] [Mad]

If that isn't a pisstake I'm quite proud of my little island for attracting the ire of the Phelps clan. [Yipee]
Can someone in Dublin organize a welcoming party with stakes and matches???
On Second thought, that might make them think they will get an entry in "Foxe's Book of Martyrs"

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I don't know if that one is a joke or not. It is just so absurd. I know there is one about God hating Sweden (for what reason, I don't know), but something tells me Mr. Phelps has too much time on his hands.

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Ooo look, the Minnesota bridge collapse was apparently caused by gays too! Who would have guessed?

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from the article:
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In a press release issued the day after the bridge collapse, the church called for protests at the funerals and outlined its feelings about the relationship between God's plan and the sins of Minneapolis and Minnesota, which it calls the "land of the Sodomite damned."
oh yah! Doncha know what a hotbed of hedomism and kinky sex they have up there! What else ya gonna do on the prairie when the winds'r blowin'? Yer gonna corrupt the world, that's what! After you make a tuna hotdish, of course. Good hotdish always comes first. Yah!

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Gosh. I wonder if you colored in every state, city and country that's the "land of the sodomite damned" according to Phelps, whether you'd have any land left uncolored?

Presumably there's at least a small patch of Topeka, KS that he feels is OK, and presumably Antarctica couldn't have done anything to offend him...

[ETA: Fixing quote. Not just depraved but sodomite damned. Scary]

[ 10. August 2007, 14:58: Message edited by: Izzybee ]

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Wow !! We could stop doing red states and blue states and just do "gay agenda" states and "resisting the danger of damnation" states.

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I wonder if the mining collapse in Utah -- probably the most conservative state in the U.S. -- is for the same reason?

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quote:
Originally posted by Paul W.:
Ooo look, the Minnesota bridge collapse was apparently caused by gays too! Who would have guessed?

Paul W

Apparently the bridge collapsed because when the Phelpses (Phelpsii?) were picketing in Minneapolis, they had some of their signs taken away.
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Twice they stole our picket signs violently, and right out of our hands - on the public sidewalk in front of the Basilica of St. Mary, 88 N. 17th St., Minneapolis, MN - as the police looked on and laughed. Typical Minnesotans.
We want our property back.

Uh. Yeah. Absolutely.

The good Revd. Phelps is bonkers, and in need of our prayers.

quote:
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I wonder if the mining collapse in Utah -- probably the most conservative state in the U.S. -- is for the same reason?

Well, duh!
[Disappointed]

[ 13. August 2007, 21:22: Message edited by: rosamundi ]

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I really hope they try to protest the Merv Griffin funeral mass. Perhaps the choir can step outside and sing "I've Got a Lovely Bunch of Coconuts" in their general direction.

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quote:
Originally posted by Izzybee:
Presumably there's at least a small patch of Topeka, KS that he feels is OK, and presumably Antarctica couldn't have done anything to offend him...

Ah, but aren't some of those penguins gay?

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quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
quote:
Originally posted by Izzybee:
Presumably there's at least a small patch of Topeka, KS that he feels is OK, and presumably Antarctica couldn't have done anything to offend him...

Ah, but aren't some of those penguins gay?
Even if they aren't, they haven't done anything to prevent the gayness that goes on in other parts of the globe. If they were good, red-blooded, God-fearing Christian penguins, they would be here with us picketing outside the funerals of puffins, whom we all know are ... well, you know.

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Well, these are South American gay penguins, but I guess they get up to that kind of stuff in Antarctica too.

godhatespenguins.com - just watch this space...

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MT...

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I wonder why Phelps and his clan of inbreds will never agree to a debate with a christian...?

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quote:
Originally posted by flighty:
I wonder why Phelps and his clan of inbreds will never agree to a debate with a christian...?

He once did a debate with John Rankin, but wouldn't answer any of Rankin's questions. Phelps has got that smart-dumb thing going on: he's dumb enough to know he's wrong but keep insisting he's right, but he's smart enough to know that he can't possibly win an argument for his case, so he resorts to name-calling and dodging questions...

The guy would do great in politics (and I hear he's a Democrat!)

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quote:
Originally posted by Songs of Praise:
I think <snip>* his usual MO.

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*Snip to save hosts' time!

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[Further tangent] Oh ye gods ... just noticed
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[Hot and Hormonal]

Ah well - it was nice to see her/him pop up again. Kinda nostalgic, really. [/Further tangent]

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Hi Zappa (and others). I am still around, nearly three years on from a cancer scare. I'm still in remission and in good health. I also kicked in my job after nearly 20 years to work as a freelance musician, web designer and journalist - which, as any other self-employed person might tell you, is probably the reason I've not found time to visit here.

There - enough nice talk in hell for now! [Smile]

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quote:
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Well, these are South American gay penguins, but I guess they get up to that kind of stuff in Antarctica too.

godhatespenguins.com - just watch this space...

Paul W

Indeed, penguins are the wanton Sodomites of the avian world. Behold, more evidence of their transgressions!

Phelpsy and co had better get cracking. Ah wait, they're already cracked.

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quote:
Originally posted by infinite_monkey:
Indeed, penguins are the wanton Sodomites of the avian world. Behold, more evidence of their transgressions!

[Eek!] Has someone told our Smudgie?

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quote:
Originally posted by SearchingForAbsolutes:
The guy would do great in politics (and I hear he's a Democrat!)

What? That bunch of gay-friendly libruls? I doubt it.

By his own (twisted) logic, if he votes at all, he is collaborating with The Gay Agenda™ (whatever that is), and thus is going to Hell. (To everyone's delight, except, perhaps, Satan's) [Eek!]

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Even the military is too librul and gay-friendly for Pastor Fred. I doubt whether any organization, political party or other, would meet his demanding standards.

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quote:
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... The Gay Agenda™ (whatever that is)...

Look no further - Betty Bowers to the rescue - here it is!

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by SearchingForAbsolutes:
The guy would do great in politics (and I hear he's a Democrat!)

What? That bunch of gay-friendly libruls? I doubt it.
He's run as a Dem in 5 Kansas primaries. Back in the day, he had Al and Tipper over for a support rally at his home/compound. I guess he's disappointed in the Democrat support for gay rights, but we all know, American politics works best when you pick a party and stick with it, regardless of whether or not you like what they stand for.

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For anyone interested, the latest from Phelps: (or at least his organization)

Anti-Gay Church: Thompson Agreed With Us

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The smartest thing Fred Thompson could do (and anyone else, for that matter) would be to completely distance himself from *anything* that comes out of Westboro Baptist. Their support is not worth anything. Thompson should consider it an *honor* to be told by the Phelps clan that they do not agree anymore, if they ever really did.

And I thought Thompson was smarter than to agree with anything that comes from Fred Phelps. I hope I wasn't wrong.

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According to the local newspaper today, a bomb threat was alleged to have been called in to Phred's church yesterday, while most of the gang was out of town. No bomb found, however plenty of TV air time. [Mad]

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Phelps Theology 101

1- Every act on Earth is controlled by God.
ex: The U.S. army is being punished by God, who uses "perverts" to kill soldiers. Mine collapses, Amish school shootings, etc. are also God's judgments. God should be praised for these, no matter what they are.

However, any bad happenings for Phelpsco or their compound is the sinful world persecuting them.

If he wasn't a clergyman, I'd think he was manipulative.


Anyone into copyright laws? With that banner on GodHatesIreland.com, I'd love to see Notre Dame and General Mills put these folks in the red for a loooooong time.

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A federal jury on Wednesday awarded the father of a fallen Marine $2.9 million in compensatory damages after finding an anti-gay Kansas church and three of its leaders liable for invasion of privacy and intent to inflict emotional distress for picketing the Marine's funeral in 2006...

[Yipee]

I'm trying to find a good link to this.

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Here's one.

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Good for the Charm City jury!

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It's a wonderful victory for the Snyder family, with a cherry on top:
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The judge said the church's financial statements, sealed earlier, could be released to the plaintiffs.
Oh, dear. Do you think the plaintiffs will be able to resist the temptation to make the financial shena- excuse me, statements of Fred's cult/family public? [Snigger] [Devil] OliviaG

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I am sure that the state of Phred's finances would be of great interest to many people in his home community. [Big Grin]

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Now everyone keep your fingers crossed that they lose the inevitable appeal.
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Can a USA friend enlighten us here over this side of the water?
What happens now if Phelps and Co can't and/or won't pay?
The news article implied that the judge felt that the award was higher than the defendants' assets. Am I reading this OK? If so, what next?

But I agree - a wonderful result [Smile]

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Now that they have a judgement, I would guess that the Phelps would have to put up all of their assets to pay the award. If they plead poverty, I believe that they can be hauled into court occasionally if the winners believe they have acquired something of value that can be used to pay the judgement.

Perhaps someone who is more knowledgeable about this can comment.

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quote:
Originally posted by TonyK:
Can a USA friend enlighten us here over this side of the water?
What happens now if Phelps and Co can't and/or won't pay?

IANAL and ought to know better than to comment but I think some assets could be seized; I don't think they could be put out on the street. IIRC correctly OJ is still living pretty well.

BTW, the jury came back with punitive damages and now the award is approaching 11 million.

ISTM this verdict is going to really complicate Fred's theological reasoning.

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Phred and company have several alternatives. First, they can appeal the judgement. I believe they will almost certainly do this as long as they can meet the Rule 1* requirements of their counsel. An appeal is bound to take a while and will delay collection efforts as long as they can afford the appeal bond to stay collection.

Second, they can ignore it. This will result in some sort of collection effort, although that depends on how avid the dad and counsel are for the money. In an irony that is fairly delicious, these wonderful folks financed themselves by suing people they had irritated into hitting them. There might be some of that money left. Additionally, the church building is bound to have some value as a tourist attraction if nothing else. Will the dad ever get all $10.9M? Not likely. As best I can tell, Fred cannot make that kind of jack practicing law and the marketable skills of the rest of the family appear to be nil.**

Third, they can declare some sort of bankruptcy. As they are apparently not farmers, they can go for a Chapter 7, a Chapter 11, or a Chapter 13. In a 7, they turn over all their assets with any equity and tell their creditors to have fun with the carrion, but to go away after that. In an 11, they stymie collection efforts by endless meetings of secured creditors and unsecured creditors. OK, sorry, they work out a "plan" for paying off debt. In a 13, which would require them to be gainfully employed, they can pay off unsecured creditors (like the dad) at less than 1 cent on the dollar. The problem they face is that they would still have to cough up around $54,000 at even ½ cent per dollar, or a .5 % premium. Additionally, I am not sure how much co-operation they would get from the Trustee or the Judge.


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quote:
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Additionally, the church building is bound to have some value as a tourist attraction if nothing else.

If memory serves their church building is also their home. Can they lose their primary place of residence?
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Tortuf:
Additionally, the church building is bound to have some value as a tourist attraction if nothing else.

If memory serves their church building is also their home. Can they lose their primary place of residence?
If everyone goes along gawping at the Phelpsians they may even sue. Then again, it does look like a down-market "community centre" made of breezeblock (cinderblock) so I can't imagine many would.

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quote:
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If memory serves their church building is also their home. Can they lose their primary place of residence?

Yes, under the right circumstances, they can lose their primary residence. It depends on the equity they have in the place among other things.
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