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Saint Hedrin the Lesser-Known
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I ventured idly into their official website and looked at their picketing schedule. It appears that the millions they stand to lose due to the lawsuit does not hinder them from staging a picket at Helsinki for the Jokela massacre.
Silly people! Me-doubts that they'll even get visas to visit Finland.
Lord help me if they decide to picket the nearest Finnish consulate in the region.
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Golden Key
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IIRC, they were wisely kept out of the UK some years back.
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Saint Hedrin the Lesser-Known
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With recent news of a bombing at the Philippine House of Representatives' compound, resulting in the death of a Muslim congressman (Rep. Wahab Akbar of Basilan), I won't be surprised if Phred Felps and his little horde will want to picket the Batasan ("Legislature") complex.
what's worse is that a lot of people enjoy 3 weeks' worth of visa-free stay in this country. Then again, the millions they have to pay the Snyders might delay that jaut a bit, and by then, that part of Batasan will have been cleared of rubble and restored to its regular use, although the business of legislation will be conducted with some mourning over the loss of one of their own.
I pray God that should any member of the Fleps family set foot on these Islands, let them be detained and deported as personae non gratae, or be welcomed by the local Hare Krishna in full force... Or the Catholic Bishops with the ghost of Cardinal Sin hovering overhead.
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Frustrated Farmer
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I have a report that the clan is headed to Omaha, Nebraska to demonstrate at the shopping mall that was the scene of some violence this week.
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Pigwidgeon
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"Fall from Grace" is being televised in the U.S. this week -- for those who have premium cable t.v.
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RadicalWhig
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The most interesting element of the Phelps' warped theology is the concept of the "fag enabler". This is a person who, although not personally homosexual, is nevertheless deserving of condemnation for not opposing homosexuality. This guilt is corporate - entire nations are to blame especially the EVIL COUNTRY OF SWEDEN . Even if you are personally opposed to homosexuality, by the very fact of living in a country where homosexuality is tolerated you become a fag enabler, and thus a fair target for picketting. It was by this curious logic that the Phelps ended up picking a shop in the US which sold Swedish domestic appliances - complete with "Fag Nation" signs in abundance. Incidentally, the King of Sweden is suing for defamation.
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Living in Gin
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So, if the US decided to pass a federal law protecting the civil rights of GLBT people, Phelps and his minions would be forced to move somewhere more conservative like, say, Afghanistan?
Sounds like everybody comes out a winner in that deal.
(grammar) [ 11. December 2007, 22:01: Message edited by: Living in Gin ]
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Golden Key
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Gin, ROTFL! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by Living in Gin: So, if the US decided to pass a federal law protecting the civil rights of GLBT people, Phelps and his minions would be forced to move somewhere more conservative like, say, Afghanistan?
Sounds like everybody comes out a winner in that deal.
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Afghanis
Like they don't have enough trouble.
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Rev per Minute
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: quote: Originally posted by Living in Gin: So, if the US decided to pass a federal law protecting the civil rights of GLBT people, Phelps and his minions would be forced to move somewhere more conservative like, say, Afghanistan?
Sounds like everybody comes out a winner in that deal.
Afghanis
Like they don't have enough trouble.
I agree - although I have to say that in a match-up between the Phelpses and the Taliban there's going to be only one winner...
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RadicalWhig
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If the US Constitution guarantees the right of the Phelps clan to go about their strange business more-or-less without restraint or molestation, does this mean that the United States is a nation of Phelphs-enablers?
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quote: Originally posted by RadicalWhig: If the US Constitution guarantees the right of the Phelps clan to go about their strange business more-or-less without restraint or molestation, does this mean that the United States is a nation of Phelphs-enablers?
I hope to God, yes.
Better to acknowledge the boil than let it fester under layers of smug censorship.
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Campbellite
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It's that whole "market place of ideas" thing. By allowing them to expose their ideas in public, they expose themselves to the ridicule and comtempt of all right thinking people, which would be pretty much the rest of the entire human race.
In other words, they protest; everyone else points and laughs.
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RooK
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Please refrain from appearing to promote any questionable or adversarial public actions.
Thanks.
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Frustrated Farmer
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If I might be allowed a moment, the clan was back out on the street corner today across from the ECUSA parish I lurk at. The first Sunday back at their old location since the fire, and I got to see their clever signs. ![[Projectile]](graemlins/puke2.gif)
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comet
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You see, Farmer, I think your parish has some great opportunity here. I'm not sure what, exactly. kill them with kindness?
x-lax brownies?
calling in 5,000 hare krishnas to tambourine them to death? there has just got to be something basically harmless but really devious and funny, too.
something worth videotaping.
WWMPD*....
I'll put my thinking cap on. I feel a special shipmeet coming on.
*what would monty python do?
(hope you survived the storm intact, by the way)
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Billfrid
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Dear Hellhost - I didn't "advocate" anything - I just pointed out that a domain name was free, and legally purchasable. Though if you think you can read minds and predict actions, you could get a real job somewhere.
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RooK
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Dear Billfrid,
I knew you were going to say that, thanks to my mystical Hellhost powers. If you don't like my instruction, feel free to pursue it in the Styx.
My powers also have divined that you're a shithead. Just thought I'd mention that, in case you hadn't noticed it yourself.
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RooK
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comet!
What did I just say about not appearing to promote anything on these boards? At least have the common decency of undermining my appearance of an illusion of authority on a separate thread. Don't make me pull rank and flog you with your own pitchfork.
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comet
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whups, sorry boss.
got carried away in the moment.
*hangs head in shame*
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Billfrid
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rookisacunt.com is also free - maybe I'll buy it.
[removed link, just in case it confuses the slowest amongst us. comet, Hellhost [ 17. December 2007, 17:21: Message edited by: comet ]
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by Billfrid: rookisacunt.com is also free - maybe I'll buy it.
You may well have bought it as the Boys in Blue used to say in the Battle of Britain.
[ditto to edit above. comet, Hellhost] [ 17. December 2007, 17:22: Message edited by: comet ]
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Billfrid
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Aw, that's ok, I have an infinite number of alter-egos at my command. Fly my pretties! BYEEEEE!
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Otter
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quote: Originally posted by Billfrid: I have an infinite number of alter-egos at my command.
Fuckmuppet, asshat, or plain 'ol blithering idiot? I just can't decide...
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Wesley J
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An article on Phelps and others is in the recent 'From our own correspondent' programme on BBC Radio 4.
Audio available from same link.
quote: A million Kansans will be taking their Bibles to church in the coming week but they will not be bashing them.
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Grizzy
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quote: It's that whole "market place of ideas" thing. By allowing them to expose their ideas in public, they expose themselves to the ridicule and comtempt of all right thinking people, which would be pretty much the rest of the entire human race.
Eh, I think by ridiculing them, we're still giving them attention, which is what they seem to get off on. They're like badly behaved children who will do anything to get people to look at them, always looking for the next most absurd stunt they could pull. If it were possible for us all to collectively ignore them when they act up, I bet they would find some other way to deal with their issues. (But they make it hard by being so shockingly offensive.)
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Clairvauxant
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That video is one of the most disturbing things that I have ever seen.
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Anglican_Brat
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Freaking.
I think the Phelps clan is a classic case of a cult in the United States. The fact is, the Phelps family are pretty much isolated from everyone.
They really don't understand anything of the Gospel message. They are following after something, but it isn't Jesus.
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RooK
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I just realized that they've somehow confused christ with Cthulhu.
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comet
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how big is the WBC? is it really just an extended family, as it looks from here? or do they have actual followers?
anyone know?
(Frustrated Farmer?)
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Squirrel
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I read somewhere that it has about 30 members.
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luvanddaisies
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quote: Originally posted by Lynn MagdalenCollege: I don't know where the video was originally posted, but here is a valuable comment on and opportunity to view something I hope Michael Jackson will sue over...
The only thing that really scares me is that someone might actually think Phelps and his hate-clan are Christians--
Fucking . I thought I wouldn't be surprised any more by the things they get up to - clearly I was wrong.
Where did I read something along the lines of; quote: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
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Welease Woderwick
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Once again I think the best response is to pray for these people - God loves them regardless, just as much as he loves you or me.
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Welease Woderwick
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A further thought:
Yes, these people are appalling and their views are appalling but then I have been faced with homophobia on a pretty much daily basis since before I was even sexually aware so it isn't really news to me - indeed similar views, although generally not couched in such extreme language, are quite a regular occurrence here on the Ship of Fools. In a sense give me the open homophobes any day rather than those that attempt to hide their venom behind sweet words - an honest enemy in front of me is preferable to the honey-tongued back-stabbing bastard behind me!
And because it now involves folks other than fags, indeed the whole world, am I suddenly supposed to take it more seriously?
Well, I'm not sure I can to do that - I'll continue to pray for them and those anti-human rights advocates here on the Ship. I'll even continue to love them all and seek that of God in them all - and I shall thank God that I am not commanded to like them all!
-------------------- I give thanks for unknown blessings already on their way. Fancy a break in South India? Accessible Homestay Guesthouse in Central Kerala, contact me for details What part of Matt. 7:1 don't you understand?
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Beautiful Dreamer
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Stupid, slightly tangental question.
How can anyone really be against human rights? Especially if they call themselves Christian? It really doesn't add up.
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Frustrated Farmer
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Comet:
I cannot say how many members they have in their church, other than family members, but I do not think that there are many. When anyone from the church is quoted, it is one of the children.
After a 9 inch snow storm yesterday, I do not know if they made their usual Sunday schedule of picketing. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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Squirrel
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I also read that most of the WBC's members are related to dear Pastor Fred. As the host of that video site remarked, they do look related to one another. Perhaps inbreeding has caused some mental deficiency.
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Bishops Finger
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Hmm. No 'perhaps' about it, IMHO.
Even if there are only 30 or so of them, they still make a hell of a noise and cause a hell of a fuss.
Ian J.
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comet
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quote: Originally posted by Welease Woderwick: In a sense give me the open homophobes any day rather than those that attempt to hide their venom behind sweet words - an honest enemy in front of me is preferable to the honey-tongued back-stabbing bastard behind me!
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Lynn MagdalenCollege
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That's very scriptural, WW - "faithful are the wounds of a friend" -- (actually Prov. 27:4-6 is all pretty relevant: Wrath is fierce and anger is a flood, but who can stand before jealousy? (5) Better is open rebuke than love that is concealed. (6) Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but deceitful are the kisses of an enemy.) and Psalm 55:12-14 is profound: For it is not an enemy who reproaches me, then I could bear it; nor is it one who hates me who has exalted himself against me, then I could hide myself from him. But it is you, a man my equal, my companion and my familiar friend; we who had sweet fellowship together walked in the house of God in the throng. Both God and man know a thing or two about betrayal.
A really scary thought is that these people might be Christians in some way yet they actively refute so much of what Jesus explicitly said... talk about grieving God... ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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RooK
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quote: Originally posted by comet: quote: Originally posted by Welease Woderwick: an honest enemy in front of me is preferable to the honey-tongued back-stabbing bastard behind me!
You know, I never thought of that as the "Siné getting rugburns" smilie before.
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Squirrel
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quote: Originally posted by Bishops Finger: Hmm. No 'perhaps' about it, IMHO.
Even if there are only 30 or so of them, they still make a hell of a noise and cause a hell of a fuss.
Ian J.
I also read that a lot of them are lawyers. Goes to show it doesn't take too much smarts to get through law school nowadays.
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Soror Magna
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Yep, the song parody was horrid, and I found myself hoping for a knock-down, drag-out, copyright violation lawsuit... until I saw the last 20 seconds - for the love of the sweet baby Jesus, that's CHILD ABUSE. Now I'm hoping the child protection authorities in Kansas see that video and do something about these Phucking Phelpses before there's another Waco or People's Temple. OliviaG
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Robert Armin
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May God bless that child, and set her free from the evil that has been done to her.
And the rest of her family as well.
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Beautiful Dreamer
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I saw the parody video, and to me it seems more like an instruction of how NOT to be Christ-like than anything else. What really makes me sick is that there are people who actually believe this crap, and that there are people who think this represents all of us Christians.
If I had to change the label I used for my faith to disassociate from these people, I would. Hopefully I won't have to, because these people will be seen for the hateful bigots they are.
And yes, I agree that teaching that to the child is a form of abuse. We can only pray that she comes to see the real Jesus and rejects what she has been taught in terms of this evil.
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Drooling Drummer
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Here is the latest.
Apparently anyone having anything to do at all with Brokeback Mountain is a fag enabler.
I wonder how WBC found out about Brokeback Mountain? Wouldn't reading about it/reading plot lines equate to reading gay propaganda? What about hearing about it? Isn't that the same as listening to gay propaganda?
the best part about these morons is that nobody took them seriously before, and now they have proven themselves just a punch-line to a joke.
who honestly forms an opinion of someone based on a character they portrayed as a critically acclaimed professional actor?
Even the regular lunacy of Phred and Klan has been surpassed by this!!
(dammit can't spel proppperley ) [ 24. January 2008, 10:39: Message edited by: flighty ]
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Jonathan Strange
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quote: Originally posted by flighty: (dammit can't spel proppperley )
Maybe that is Phred's problem too?
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