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Jay-Emm
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Originally posted by Eliab:
A pro forma vote from Corporal Marley (Jay-Emm) is still required, but it cannot affect the outcome. Fr. Didier is lynched, and can post a death-scene now. As soon as I have the last vote (or decide I've waited long enough for it) I'll reveal his role.
Start thinking about your night actions now. It would help if all PMs could be sent to me as replies from the PM initially asigning your role - that way I get one PM thread per player and don't have to delete any game-related messages for reasons of space until we're done. I'll try to reply promptly with an acknowledgement so that you always have a PM to reply to.
Apologies for the delay..
Jacob doesn't want to risk the embarrassment of his peers, if he changed his mind so casts his ballet for dibler
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Blessed Father Didier, OCSO, monastic, priest, and martyr
Those who are unjustly accused, civilian victims of war, refugees, cenobites, church restorers, the deaf, brewers.
Born 15 December in Zeebrugge, Flanders . . .
Accounts of his last days tells us that, following a summons issued by the military authority in Ypres, Fr. Didier left his beloved abbey, never to return. His religious lifestyle and zealous Catholic faith made him many enemies during his short time in that town; even an attempt to restore a shelled church met with the ire of the man who was using the consecrated crypt as a tavern. At sunset of the Monday of Holy Week that year, a firing squad was drawn from a regiment of Welsh troops stationed nearby; according to local tradition, the soldiers who took part in his execution perished a few years later while taking part in an ill-fated archaeological expedition in Egypt.
As the sun set, witnesses were struck by his calm, silent demeanor, almost as if he were unaware of the noise and confusion surrounding him. Even as his body fell, his eyes remained fixed on the cross atop a distant church that was illuminated by the last rays of the day. Even during the war, reports of apparitions were not uncommon; after its end, when the church Father Didier had begun to restore was once more prepared for Christian worship, the consecrated Hosts in the tabernacle he had opened on the day of his death were found uncorrupted and in perfect condition, despite the intervening months. His remains were translated from the battlefield cemetery where he was buried to what is now the Basilica Shrine of Blessed Father Didier in Ypres.
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Laicatell was overcome by a sense of the tragedy of existence, and sought to express it in verse.
We lynched poor Father Didier.
He was innocent. Oh dear.
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Eliab
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Beside the infallible decree of the Church for Father Didier's beatification, it is probably superfluous to point out that he was, indeed, innocent - an Allied Civilian.
It is, however, worthwhile to reveal the lesser-known fact that his life and work close to the Ypres front-line, and consequent exposure to month after month of bombardment, had made the Blessed Father something of an Expert on Artillery. To this day, Belgian farmers working the land around Ypres have been known to invoke Father Didier's protection, that the old shells turned up by the plough each year may, by his intercession, prove to be duds.
Night falls...
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Good beer was hard to come by these days, and Battista deeply regretted the death of any brewster. He was doubly sorry that Fr.Didier, despite all his deaf fumblings about, had proved not to be a dangerous conspirator.
The religious he acknowledged as necessary; after all a decent funeral was generally followed by a lot of drinking. A keg of ale having recently come into his possession, he decided that drinks on the house were in order to at least celebrate one who had been a maker of beer. And who knew, but that the prayers of the good father in the sanctuary upstairs might prove to be the best protection Batty's Bar had ever had. It also made him think deeply about the people on Major Daute's list who had been so keen to see blood spilled.
Battista poured drinks all round, raised a battered cup and said "Here's to Fr Didier. May he rest in peace now and rise in glory. Perhaps he will spare a prayer for all us left below in this hell-hole."
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Well, I didn't vote for good father... (funny how everyone becomes the 'good' whoever when they die, isn't it?). But here's who did:
Stage 1: All nominees still executable.
Lt. Burt (CuppaT)
Hodge (VR)
Bradshaw (Amorya)
Lord Jarvis (JFH)
Battista (BL)
(Hearte, Cpt. Slackbladder and AR voted for Sylvain)
Stage 2: Sylvain still executable
Leo
Agnes (Hennah)
Sylvan(der)
(Harry [iF] voted for Sylvain; Dafyd voted TESS; Didier for Hodge).
Stage 3: No-one else executable, but Didier savable
Alice (Antisocial Alto)
We can't really draw any conclusions from this yet, but we might be able to later if we play our cards right.
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Thinking a little more, I'll admit that I'm not the fanatic, but I have a suggestion for whoever is: investigate Sylvan. If Sylvan is guilty, you clear four of us.
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Oh my! Who would have thought majority opinion could be so wrong? I'm a little anxious that our collective detective skills (hey, that rhymes!) got us off to such a bad start.
Eliza wanders back to her quarters, making sure to bolt the door behind her. This botched lynching seems to herald an ill wind, and she can do naught but hope to steer clear of its path. Without knowing who to trust, she curls up under her blanket, trying fitfully to get some sleep. She cannot forget her part in voting for the innocent, and this combines with fear of the conspirators to form an atmosphere of looming dread.
Dread. Rhymes with dead. She'll have to tell that Welsh poet that one.
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Sylvander
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Originally posted by Hart:
Thinking a little more, I'll admit that I'm not the fanatic, but I have a suggestion for whoever is: investigate Sylvan. If Sylvan is guilty, you clear four of us.
Maybe you ought to explain this, please? Which four?
Oh, and thanks for summing up who voted at what moment.
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Originally posted by Sylvander:
Maybe you ought to explain this, please? Which four?
Hearte, Slackbladder, Rhoda, and Bournemouth. Who would all then have voted for a guilty person at a point when that person could have been lynched.
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Eliab
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I'd like to keep things moving at night - please could anyone who has a possible night action PM me even if they are doing nothing.
For future nights I suggest the following:
I'll call 'morning' after I have orders from everyone, or I think I've waited long enough. I'll give everyone at least 24 hours. I'll be a bit more generous with the main roles (Conspirator, Fanatic, Traitor, Nurse), as these players are almost always going to want to do something, than with the supporting roles (Sapper, Military Police, Special Brigade) which are either one-off actions or potentially double-edged. If players with supporting roles don't speak up within a day, then I'll assume they don't want to act.
This time round, though, I'll wait to hear from everyone unless things get excessively slow.
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things moving at night
Goodness, Major Daute, I'm trying to get a whole ward of drunken invalids to stay put and rest, and you're encouraging them to move about. Tsk.
Rhoda retreated to her curtained cubbyhole at the end of the ward and softly said Compline before laying her head on the pillow and pulling the thin blanket over herself.
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Agnés was extremely disturbed. Didier had actually been killed. She was horrified. Being a country girl, she was quite used to death in the animal kingdom, an unfortunate creature reaching the end of its useful life, etc, but murder?
She had thought she was being a good girl, having being brought up to respect her elders, and had voted with Battista as she was sure he knew something that she didn't, and it would all work out in the end.
Mon Dieu! How horrible. She resolved not to be so trusting in the future.
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Jay-Emm
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Originally posted by Hart:
Stage 3: No-one else executable, but Didier savable
Alice (Antisocial Alto)
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You missed me off
Stage 4: ...
Jacob (Jay-Emm)
I assert that I'd planned to in the absence of anyone making a Mafia claim (as in my post on Tuesday).
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Sylvander
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Originally posted by Jay-Emm:
[QUOTE]casts his ballet for dibler
What does "dibler" mean? The word seems to be in none of my dictionaries, nor is it a player. And it seems the vote isn't even listed further down.
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Sylvander
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Jay-Emm! Behave! Cross posters will be summarily shot! (And explain "dibler" to me, pls).
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Misspelling Didier?
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Banner Lady
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And I thought it was the artillery specialist who was supposed to be deaf!
Agnes, I was voting purely in the best interests of your place of employment remaining open. This is a war; and no-one is to be trusted, even seemingly innocent little girls. Perhaps especially seemingly innocent little girls, looking at some of the votes which proved decisive.
All I wanted was Father Didier to be detained by the authorities. I did not believe he wound be rounded up and summarily executed.
But am I surprised? Non. Who of us has not witnessed such barbarity before? And may I remind you it was Corporal Marley who so eagerly accused the Father as the first nomination and Lt.Alice who was quick to follow by nominating Sylvain second. If they are working together, then perhaps they did not mind which one was taken out. Lt.Alice cast the deciding vote, and Corporal Marley the last one. Perhaps this too is significant. What do you think?
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The sheer number of nominations makes me suspect that the conspirators are hiding in there among the nominators. I'm not sure if we should more suspect the early nominators or the late nominators. The early nominators would be making a preemptive strike: nominating the innocent before one of their guilty conspiratorial selves is nominated. The late nominators would be trying for a hung vote or else trying to deflect attention from an early-nominated conspirator. So maybe we should be looking among all the nominators, plus, say, the first three nominees.
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Eliab
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DAY 2 – “The six-inch tolls the knell of parting day”
The field artillery officer wades through the liquid mud of the communication trench as he heads to the howitzer pit overlooking the salient. The daylight is just beginning to show, and sentries stand to at their posts, wary of a dawn attack. As the officer arrives at his destination, the gunners make a show of saluting, but are wise enough not to spring to attention and show their heads above the sandbags.
“Sergeant Tork?”
“Sir!”
“I’m right in thinking that you’re a Lutheran, aren’t I, Dietrich? Not a Roman Catholic?”
“Yes sir.”
“Good. Very Good. Then I have a target for you. The Trappist place. One of our snipers believes that the British are using the bell tower for observation. There’s a man stationed there, at first light every day. Can you hit the tower?”
Sgt Dietrich Tork peers at the distant abbey in the pale light. Compared to the rest of Ypres, the war has been relatively kind to the sparse collection of outlying buildings. They were thought to have no strategic importance at all. But the range and bearing are marked - just as all the salient's landmarks are - in his field manual. He glances back at the officer, and places his hand possessively on the breech of his beloved Krupp 15cm sFH13.
“It’s a long shot sir. Almost out of range, but the height should help. Not if there’s a wind, I shouldn’t think, but on a calm morning like today, well, there’s a chance, sir. That’s all.”
“Three shells. Second and third as quick as you can make them. I want the observer dead, so make the first count, if you can.”
“Yes sir.”
Over four miles away, Brother Thelonius stands at the small window in the bell tower of the monastery of Saint Sixtus. He has heard of Father Didier’s death, and has prayed all night for vengeance and for forgiveness. “Is there any faith” he wonders “strong enough to accept this insanity?”
But the new day brings hope. As it always does. Whatever the horrors and sins of the past, each dawn is a theophany. The monk stares east towards the sun rising over the German lines, as he does every morning, and lets the light of God’s promises into his heart.
The first shell strikes the bell-tower squarely, blasting tha ancient stones apart and destroying everything inside. The second falls short, the mud smothering the blast. Sergeant Tork does not fire the third. The collapse of the tower makes it unnecessary, and there is no sense in provoking British counter-battery fire.
Brother Thelonius is not the only casualty of the night. The same morning, soldier-poet Lt. Dai Laicattell is found murdered.
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Eliab
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I should say expressly that the prosecution phase begins and nominations are now open (and will remain open for the next 30 hours or so).
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Sylvander
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We lynched the wrong priest and now lost the Welshman (or is that a perk?).
These conspirators are bad! Murdering an invalid, cowards! And a poet (sort of) to boot (can one say this for an amputee?).
I can't find much conspicuous in the few things he was saying before his death, can anyone? Are we any the wiser? I promise not to vote for someone not nominated this time.
Meanwhile Sylvain de la Botte Trouée tried his hand at poetry in the crude tongue of Shakespeare:
In memoriam
Lieutenant Dai is gone ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
He was ever so much fun.
He will be sorely missed
So let's all go get pissed ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
off
Could be improved upon but would have to do for now.
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Eliab
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I ought to have said explicitly that Dai Laicattell was an Allied Soldier.
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Lt Laicatell put on his artificial leg. It felt funny. He took it off only to find that it had been smeared with fast-acting contact poison. What sick minds would come up with such a method of killing he wondered? Why was he chosen? He could only presume that his killers were moved by envy at his poetic gifts.
He had enough time to compose his epitaph:
I am dead.
'Nuff is said.
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And, as Dai voted TESS, we learn nothing from this assassination. (Well... nothing except the fact that I can stop making that foul Welsh Rarebit he insisted on eating).
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Sylvander
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Whatever TESS was supposed to mean... It's all dibler to me.
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TESS = This Execution Should Stop, a.k.a. No Lynching.
May Lieutenant Dai Laicatell rest in peace and rise in glory. What's going to happen to the level of culture now that we are bereft of his poetry?
Help, help, can someone help me clear these stones away? Maybe Brother Thelonius, has survived this terrible shelling.
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Banner Lady
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Originally posted by Autenrieth Road:
So maybe we should be looking among all the nominators, plus, say, the first three nominees.
Or perhaps the first four nominees. The third to be nominated last time was Miss Bradshaw, and the fourth was Miss Hodge.
Battista wiped down the table where the Welsh poet had always sat to write. It seemed that whoever sat there to drink could not help but begin to spout poetry. He shrugged. War (and wine) did strange things to some men.
He also wondered why the outspoken and self-confident Miss Hodge was now so very quiet.
For now though, it was time to drink to the memory of the fallen poet. "The bar is open, and it will be a free drink to whoever can offer some lines of poetry in memory of Lt.Dai. A brandy for you, Colonel Sylvain?"
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
quote:
Originally posted by Autenrieth Road:
So maybe we should be looking among all the nominators, plus, say, the first three nominees.
Or perhaps the first four nominees. The third to be nominated last time was Miss Bradshaw, and the fourth was Miss Hodge.
"I must admit," said Slackbladder, "While I can hardly complain, seeing that your calculations seem to make me immune from suspicion, your methodology appears to be about as watertight as a sieve which has been lying in no man's land for the last month.
"You're assuming a logical, rational strategy on the part of the conspirators - which, given the way this war's going, isn't even something I'd expect from our generals. More than that, though, you and Lt Hearte are missing something crucial, in that you're both assuming, based on slightly less evidence than a homeopathic remedy for being blown to bits, that someone in the nomination phase will have been a conspirator.
"Your assumption is more of a suspicion, although publicly suspecting about half the available candidates is about as much help as a helmet made out of playdough, but Hearte's is very interesting. He says that as Dai voted TESS, we learn nothing. That implies that we would have discovered something important had he voted for a candidate for lynching - a suggestion I reject - but I assume his reasoning will have been that the conspirators are more likely to have bumped off someone who suspected them, even if at this stage they had no evidence to support their suspicions, and were making a wild stab in the dark.
"If this is the case (a big assumption, but it seems to be Hearte's), his murder surely tells us that none of the candidates who received votes for a lynching are conspirators, and that group went instead for the one person who rejected all the false leads followed by others. If Hearte disagrees with this reasoning, maybe he could tell us why?"
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The lieutenant is dead.
Not bashed in the head,
Or smothered in bed,
But poisoned by stealth
By a nasty mean elf
Who ruined Dai's health.
(Busking for free drinks. Not perhaps what a dignified nurse would usually be found doing, but Ypres was proving to be a strange and dangerous place, and the bar was warm.)
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Autenrieth Road
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It's gone awfully quiet in here!
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Originally posted by The Great Gumby:
"You're assuming a logical, rational strategy on the part of the conspirators - which, given the way this war's going, isn't even something I'd expect from our generals.
Captain Slackbladder, I'm sure you have more insight into the inscrutable ways of generals than this humble nurse does, but if we're going to assume the conspirators are acting irrationally, then we have only random luck to count on in catching them.
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More than that, though, you and Lt Hearte are missing something crucial, in that you're both assuming, based on slightly less evidence than a homeopathic remedy for being blown to bits, that someone in the nomination phase will have been a conspirator.
Ahem, us Red Cross nurses deal with slightly more powerful cures than homeopathy! A nice cup of tea and a biscuit, for example.
I present Exhibit A: six people nominated in round 1. Doesn't that seem slightly high to you? It does to me. My suspicion is that the high numbers were caused by at least one of the conspirator(s) putting their grubby fingers on the scales of justice, and leaping into the nominating fray. The alternative possibility is that the innocent collectively had a nominating frenzy. Possible, but bizarre if so.
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"And a glass of wine for you, Ma'm'selle, unless you would prefer something stronger?"
"Actually, Captain Slackbladder, you are not at all immune from suspicion. It did make me wonder about the importance of your role when those running this show decided a substitute must be got for Private Romana. This might not have been so very necessary if you were just an allied soldier or civilian, and therefore more easily expendable. Now a little poesy please, or you will have to pay for your drink."
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Now what shall we do?
I haven't got a clue.
was Sylvain's entry to the European Meistersinger of Ypres song contest. As for analysis (aka glorified guesswork) he had never seen it work it in online Mafia except in hindsight. Blindly hitting all round until one chances upon hard facts (ideally a baddie), then start analysing, that was about it.
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Dread. Rhymes with dead. She'll have to tell that Welsh poet that one.
Oh dear me. It seems I won't be telling him anything any more. This is getting quite out of hand, I do declare!
I would like to hear what Lavinia Hodge has to say. She voiced her suspicions of Fr Didier yesterday. Granted, this was after he nominated her, but she did talk her mafia skills up quite a lot.
Lt Alice Adler has been fairly quiet. She got an early nomination in (and at present we don't know if her nominee is guilty or innocent) but then hasn't said much. My only fleeting thought there is that if she's a quiet player in general, making a nomination so early might be a bit out of character, but that doesn't tell me much.
Nurse Rhoda Autenrieth, who nominated Didier (an innocent), said she nominated first to get the ball rolling and because the nominee played in the last game (which is a reasonable thing to do if going for random accusations, I guess). She's been vocal enough on the forums so I'm not suspicious of her silence, but I've no idea what to think otherwise.
Then of course there's Col Sylvain. He was the second choice of last round. I didn't vote for him partly because I didn't want it to seem like tit-for-tat just because he nominated me (since his reasons there were sound), but I have no other reason to be confident in his innocence. He had a bit of a back-and-forth regarding Hodge, and he seemed quite unimpressed by her suspicion of Didier. He said early on that he didn't think conspirators nominated early on Day 1, so thought Alice Adler was innocent — but then he tried to vote for her anyway in the lynching. Confused much? Again, though, this doesn't tell us anything concrete.
And then we have Major Conte Leo di Leonato, who has also been very quiet this game. Not that he nominated anyone, but I just found that my notes about him were conspicuously lacking.
Anyway, I'm going to stop now, because I could go through everyone in this manner: the conclusion is I don't have any info!
I don't want this to turn into something where we lynch anyone who is active (i.e only considering those who nominate or whatever). Ideally everyone should be fairly active in this thread, and we want to encourage that, so adding negative consequences probably isn't a great plan. However, we don't have many leads at the moment.
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Jacob cursed, first the person he nominated turned out to be innocent, second the last words of the Welshman were a rebuke of his spelling.
He reflected, <if> the theory that some nominations were a smokescreen then in the absence of knowledge, Didier was highest to be mafia, tending to lowest at Dai.
Again following this theory Lord Fastolfe was the most suspicious accusation and his (Marley's) own the least.
However now more was known, Didier was innocent, this meant:
Hodge was not part of a smokescreen (so only the cause of smokescreen odds remain, and coincidence)
Didier was not the cause of the smokescreen so Marley was back in the frame (I'm not sure how far).
Furthermore Dai was known to be innocent..how did this affect the possible narratives.
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Nurse Rhoda Autenrieth, who nominated Didier (an innocent), said she nominated first to get the ball rolling and because the nominee played in the last game (which is a reasonable thing to do if going for random accusations, I guess). She's been vocal enough on the forums so I'm not suspicious of her silence, but I've no idea what to think otherwise.
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Is that misattributed? Possibly because my nomination was so badly phrased that it got merged with the first follow up.
Not that Jacob won't be glad if the other soldiers forget who was responsible for an innocents death.
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Ahem, it was most definitely Corporal Marley and not me who got the ball rolling. I was making beds and rolling bandages when the nominations started.
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Ack, sorry. Posting on phone so will be brief here. I was going from my notes, which obviously contain an error. I will set the record fully straight tomorrow, but meanwhile please accept my profound apologies.
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"Six accusations yesterday", mutters Major Daute. "Today, nothing. I'll give them a few more hours."
But what then, he wonders. He could, of course, simply have someone shot and see if that improves things. But no, the important thing is that he shouldn't be accountable for any of this mess at all. Besides, the suspects might be quiet, but they weren't exactly inactive. Daute shakes his head in admiration. Poison on a false leg. Good God, but that's sly. Whatever will they get up to next?
[OOC] I'm unwilling to time out nominations, since that's a fairly fundamental part of process of finding conspirators. But you've all had long enough to discuss your plans for today, and it's time to nominate. If, in the next 24 hours, I'm at a computer and see at least two nominations, then I'll start the defence phase. After that, I'll call time at my discretion, whether we have any accusations or not, and if not, night will fall.[/OOC]
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It did make me wonder about the importance of your role when those running this show decided a substitute must be got for Private Romana. This might not have been so very necessary if you were just an allied soldier or civilian, and therefore more easily expendable.
[Another OOC note] I would have tried to find a substitute for any player dropping out at that stage - precisely to avoid the line of reasoning that a substituted role must be important. Cpt Slackbladder has simply inherited Pte Romana's random die rolls. He could be anyone.[/OOC]
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Originally posted by Autenrieth Road:
Ahem, it was most definitely Corporal Marley and not me who got the ball rolling. I was making beds and rolling bandages when the nominations started.
Let the correction stand. I've gone back and re-read the thread, and I've no idea how I got that one confused. Many apologies to Nurse Rhoda.
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Well, someone's got to go first. I nominate Sylvain. I still think the large number of nominations may well have been caused by a conspirator being nominated early, so he's my best guest.
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Battista knew from years of running a bar, that it was best to not trust anyone entirely. And while he was deeply suspicious of those who were quick to point the finger, and those who felt the best tactic was aggression, he was more deeply suspicious of those who did not drink the good stuff of life.
He was inclined therefore to nominate either Miss Hodge (who had not patronized his establishment at all) or Lt.Alice (who had only ordered milk). They had both been very quiet, but knowing there was now such inclement weather hampering all European activities, he decided to nominate Lt.Alice.
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Originally posted by Amorya:
Then of course there's Col Sylvain. He was the second choice of last round. I didn't vote for him partly because I didn't want it to seem like tit-for-tat just because he nominated me (since his reasons there were sound),
For nominations I was swaying between you and Alice Adler. After you had spoken my memory fooled me into thinking I had nominated Alice which is why I tried voting for her.
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but I have no other reason to be confident in his innocence. He had a bit of a back-and-forth regarding Hodge, and he seemed quite unimpressed by her suspicion of Didier.
This time round I am undecided between Lavinia Hodge (who has fallen quiet all of a sudden) and Alice Adler.
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He said early on that he didn't think conspirators nominated early on Day 1,
Did I?
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so thought Alice Adler was innocent — but then he tried to vote for her anyway in the lynching. Confused much? Again, though, this doesn't tell us anything concrete.
As I said I think that analysis is guesswork until we hit a mafioso or detective. So when (if) I said conspirators often do not nominate early experience bears this out to a point. But all such statements based on past experience are most uncertain (Last time round all three mafiosi voted for the first person to be lynched - and Eliab's entire reasoning later was based on the wrong assumption they would never do this.)
My personal favourite speculation is the quietness-is-suspicious rule - but it is only relatively "safe" compared to the other ones available. None should ever be treated as a continuous base (hence my gut-feeling suspicion of Lavinia).
Quietness is why I tried voting for Alice.
Admittedly I find Lavinia (despite her speaking much until recently) very suspicious, too. But for the reasons specified I'll nominate Alice Adler. Actually I thought about not nominating at all this day, but seeing I have been nominated...
PS: I would not greatly mind being lynched: as I am no special citizen I would not be a big loss for my team (compared to others). But make sure that when you found out about my innocence you know good conclusions to draw from my death ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Conte Leo suddenly realises that sitting in a bar drinking gallons of piss-poor Belgian wine means that you both miss out on what is going on, and get a terrible hangover.
He still believes that at least one of the enemy nominated last time round and that most, if not, all of them would have voted to lynch poor old Fr Didier.
Given these two things the most likely suspects are Sylvian and Alice Adler. Now they have nominated each other things are certainly interesting. Let us hope one of them is guilty (but which?).
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Originally posted by Hart:
I nominate Sylvain
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
nominate Lt.Alice
That's two.
Prosecution phase over. Defence phase begins. It'll last until 10pm GMT Monday (roughly 48 hours from now) to give at least one whole weekday for the accused to answer the charges against them. If both accused rest their cases before then, we'll start voting sooner.
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Burt put down his third empty glass, Belgian beer this time. He appreciated the ability to drink here in Europe without anyone looking at him twice. In America he wouldn't be allowed for a few more years.
He leaned over to the next table to Conte Leo and said, "They didn't really nominate each other, you know. Harte nominated Sylvain. And Batty and Sylvain nominated Lt. Alice at about the same time."
Two is a good number. We shall see. Burt left to polish boots and his equipment. He wasn't seeing much action lately and the wait was getting to him.
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So, Le Colonel and and Lt Adler are on the line today, so far. I do not think that Le Colonel Sylvain de la Boutte Trouée is guilty. I do this for the reason that Lt Hearte pointed out at the bar late last night: the fanatic. While there are many suspicious creatures and critters here, of varying nationalities, I find it likely that the fanatic would have investigated de la Boutte Trouée, at least one of them (the fanatics, not the French family). Yes, I believe that there are more than one fanatic - in the army everyone is crazy, especially when people are dying like flies and so few can survive this terrible climate for long. [i.e. the playing field is levelled against the city when the mafia is guaranteed a kill every night, and the GM probably wants to make it more even. As soon as a fanatic shows up, he's gone, so there may be more than one. Also, the MP, the traitor, the artilleryman and the aviator are all weakening the bright side more than the dark side, since the mafioso are easily replacable if suspended.] The fanatic ought to have been the first to have made his voice clear, or at least among the first, had Le Colonel been guilty, and it would've been easy to do under a disguise, since he's already evidently one of the most suspected person around.
The silence apart from the eager Lt Hearte I take as speaking in the defence of Le Colonel.
However, I am most suspicious of Lavinia Hodge, whose silence is speaking another language. However, I just realized that just as I say this, Major Daute, the self-ordained voice of God, has run off with the list of accused people, and thus my suspicions will have to wait for another day or so, which might be just as well, since I have no proof apart from her odd appearance, running on and off in talking, and going on and on about her importance.
I believe she is a traitor, but I am not sure - I want to hear more from her, though.
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Originally posted by CuppaT:
He leaned over to the next table to Conte Leo and said, "They didn't really nominate each other, you know. Harte nominated Sylvain. And Batty and Sylvain nominated Lt. Alice at about the same time."
They did in the first round (nominations 2 and 3). Which is interesting. Not quite sure how interesting yet, but definitely interesting.
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"Mon ami, I think you will find that the second nomination was Lt.Adler (Antisocial Alto) nominating Col Sylvain (Sylvander); and the third nomination was Col.Sylvain nominating Miss Bradshaw (Amorya). All of these young ladies definitely seem to be worth watching, as no doubt some of the patrons of the bar would fully concur.
Had I realized that I was cross-posting with Hearte, I would have definitely altered my nomination to being for Miss Hodge. If this is not allowable, then she has been most blessed by Madame Fortune. S'l'vie."
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I hate this fucking mud thought Sgt Bournemouth as he trudged from the ordnance dump at the end of another confusing day. He'd heard that there were calls for another lynching over the dead General and hi appetite for a nice little barney had been whetted. The only other thing needing whetting now was his palette, so he headed swiftly towards the bar. So, who'll it be? Lieutenant Alice or the bloody Colonel who I didn't-really vote for last time? Best get to where I can hear what these wankers have to say for themselves.
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