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Source: (consider it) Thread: Circus: Mafia - Over by Christmas
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quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
"Mon ami, I think you will find that the second nomination was Lt.Adler (Antisocial Alto) nominating Col Sylvain (Sylvander); and the third nomination was Col.Sylvain nominating Miss Bradshaw (Amorya).

You're right. Sorry, all these years of reading idiot waiters' handwriting has made my own almost as bad... "Ao" for "Antisocial alto" and "Aa" for Amorya look kind of similar in my notes in this light.

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Lavinia returns from hours of practising Mozart on the cello (there may be a war on but it doesn’t do to lose one’s culture altogether) listening to the Tchaikovsky concert in Paris on the radio and dragging the Christmas tree (it may be Easter but Lavinia wants to make sure she’s prepared [Biased] ) back to the barracks in the snow all the while cursing her leaky footwear that got her feet soaking wet, to learn about the latest assassinations. Finally she has managed to get near a telegraph machine. She finds herself accused of the crime, which is to be expected, I suppose, taken the way things turned out yesterday.

I DIDNT DO IT STOP

It goes without saying that I am innocent. Obviously I was profoundly and humiliatingly wrong last time, but if I really was a murderer, I would have kept quieter. It helps the innocent if we talk,* but it’s hard to tell this time round if the innocent have been talking or not. I suspect at least one of the conspirators is being rather talkative, actually. (Admittedly this doesn’t get me off the hook, but such is life.)

While I made the nomination of the priest (and I remind you that I didn’t say I was certain I was right, only that it looked to me like the best shot in a bad situation) I was far from the only one to vote that way. So my mistake was to the clear advantage of the mob, who I think probably offered less reasoning than me in the hopes of getting me to carry the can on the pretext that they were just following the crowd in order to ensure a lynching.

Anyway, me being dead helps no one except the conspiracy.

*Note to everyone – verbosity helps the innocent. It may bore the pants off the hosts, but that’s why we send them chocolate later [Biased]

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quote:
Originally posted by Imaginary Friend:
The only other thing needing whetting now was his palette, so he headed swiftly towards the bar.

From his grave, Laicatell's ghost was intrigued by the suggestion that Bournemouth proposed using ale to mix oil paints.

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Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
*Note to everyone – verbosity helps the innocent. It may bore the pants off the hosts, but that’s why we send them chocolate later [Biased]

This at least is true [Smile]

The problem at the moment, of course, is that I doubt many people have much of a clue what's going on. So innocent people end up being quiet because they have nothing much to say, and guilty people can then be quiet and not stand out too much. I'm not saying I've been great at copious talking myself, but I have at least tried to post a few possibilities and reasons (which did make me look a bit of an ass when I misattributed one, but oh well).

As for this round of voting, I'm inclined to vote for Lt Alice if she doesn't reply soon. I'm not voting for her just yet, but if the votes all start getting cast then a lack of reply could be a cause for concern. (I won't, of course, do anything stupid like force a tie, since I still believe lynching people needs to happen for the town to win.)

quote:
Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
I DIDNT DO IT STOP

Regarding Hodge's protestations, the logic [in her post] seems sound at face value, but there is still something that doesn't quite ring true to me. It's not the voting for Didier that I find suspicious (after all, I voted for him myself), but something in the style of speech does make me consider double bluffs: " if I really was a murderer, I would have kept quieter" — unless you know the game so well that you can tell people this whilst talking a lot, and hope that it gets you overlooked!

These suspicions are still nothing concrete, and Hodge hasn't been nominated this round anyway. (Even if she was, I'm not sure whether I'd vote for her just yet — it depends what other people have to say.)

Eliza Bradshaw

[ 19. December 2010, 17:26: Message edited by: Amorya ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Amorya:
...Regarding Hodge's protestations, the logic [in her post] seems sound at face value, but there is still something that doesn't quite ring true to me....and Hodge hasn't been nominated this round anyway.[/QB]

Jacob was wondering about that, the situation is complex in that she was nominated but past the deadline, but she doesn't seem to have picked up on this (yet).
There's another claim she's made which (again is partially true) but not to have qualified seems lacking in attention (I'm not sure if this is a Mafia defending too instinctively, a innocent distracted, a cunning villager gambit, that she's as flawed as me, or that my judgements as bad as my writing) but something seems inconsistent.

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quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
Had I realized that I was cross-posting with Hearte, I would have definitely altered my nomination to being for Miss Hodge.

I think that as the time for nominations was already past, and we were in an extension period at the time, I ought to be strict. Officer Hodge was not nominated in the Prosecution phase, and we are now in the Defence phase when further nominations are not allowed.

You may, of course, discuss her guilt or innocence as much as you like, but, for today at least, she is not going to be a candidate for lynching.

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Hmmm. I've only just noticed that we're not in the voting phase yet. Still another 21 hours to go before we can cast our lots.

Eliza decides to take a walk. She's a bit worried at how bloodthirsty this whole business is making her: she's feeling way too eager to hand over a ballot slip that could take someone's life. The realities of war do desensitise one to the death of a human being, but that doesn't mean she has to like the side of her it brings out.

As she wanders the nearly deserted streets, Eliza tries to make eye contact with everyone she passes. If there's a conspirator amongst us, perhaps he/she will show themselves up by looking furtive.

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Lt. Adler cowered in the darkest corner of the switchboard barracks as the lynch mob bayed outside. How could she convince them she was innocent?

She should never have pointed the finger at that poor priest or monk or whatever he was. Even a Papist didn't deserve to be shot for a crime he didn't commit. Alice couldn't help but feel that if she'd only minded her P's and Q's and stayed at her post, instead of meddling in officers' business, the priest would still be alive and she wouldn't be in this fix.

Now that she knew that the friar or vicar or whatever was innocent, Alice wondered about the motivations of Col. Sylvain and Miss Hodge. Both of them had thrown accusations wildly; the Colonel seemed to have switched allegiances several times. She thought his constant babbling might be a smokescreen. And Miss Hodge had incited the mob to attack an innocent man, and then suddenly disappeared. Could either of them be a conspirator?

It was all much too confusing. Alice longed for a soothing glass of milk and a lie-down with a good book, but the boys in the trenches needed her at her post. She put her headset back on and resumed her seat at the telephone switchboard, ready to connect the troops to their commanders.

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Interesting snippet - this time we are to decide between Lt Adler and Colonel de la Botte Trouée.

The Colonel voted for Alice last time round (despite her name not actually being on the ballot). I'm not sure what this means, but I'm sure it means something...

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quote:
Originally posted by Antisocial Alto:
Both of them had thrown accusations wildly; the Colonel seemed to have switched allegiances several times.

I do not think so and I am not so sure you actually do. Early on I suspected Alice Adler (you) and Eliza Bradshaw (Amorya) and wanted to keep an eye on Lavinia (la vie en rouge). My suspicion against her is rising and the reasons for suspecting Eliza (Amorya) have been alleviated by her participating in public debate. Not so much switching here, methinks.

The reason you do not want to participate in suspicion-throwing activities might be that doing so tends to produce patterns that can speak against you later. Or, if a conspirator throws suspicion on another – in order to hide these inevitable patterns – it might backfire if suddenly the crowd picks up on it and lynches him/her.

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Originally posted by Antisocial Alto:
She thought his constant babbling might be a smokescreen.

Le colonel Sylvain de la Botte Trouée grants that this could be done. BUT: a) I genuinely think this is hard to do convincingly for any length of time. b) Looking back at Camp Sarastro you'll find that I sometimes tend to be a talkative citizen (and a vry quick typist).
And, sorry to say it, your post fits nicely with my theory that conspirators tend to speak more „in character“ than to utter reflections / speculations / guesses / suspicions.

quote:
Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
The Colonel voted for Alice last time round (despite her name not actually being on the ballot). I'm not sure what this means, but I'm sure it means something...

I am amazed that someone usually reading the thread so carefully should have overlooked that I already said what happened. It is fairly simple.

quote:
Originally posted by Amorya:
It may bore the pants off the hosts, but that’s why we send them chocolate later [Biased]

Do we? How? If there's some real chocolate-sending on, I'm in.

quote:
Originally posted by Amorya:
The problem at the moment, of course, is that I doubt many people have much of a clue what's going on. So innocent people end up being quiet because they have nothing much to say,

That is true re my defense. You do not really want me to say even more than what I post here.
You know what is the worst about being nominated? IF I get lynched not only will I die and my team suffer a setback but I will not even have the consolation of a new revelation in this game before Christmas! (Unless we squeeze in another nightly murder before the break).

quote:
Originally posted by Amorya:
(which did make me look a bit of an ass ...

Thanks for keeping me company. Shall we apply for a role in the Ypres maternity play? Any volunteers for the ox?

quote:
Originally posted by Amorya:
Eliza Bradshaw

Shipmates who impersonate a lady but really are men are of course inherently a bit suspicious! [Biased] Why, you might fool me into proposing to you! And what a nasty shock that would be.

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Intoxicated by the sweet, sweet chocolaty blessings of Belgium, for a brief moment Lord Fastolfe decides to speak in the manner and lingo of these local thugs and theorists (the theologist is dead), expressed in a short snippet of words, supposedly filled with some truth.

It seems Lavinia Hodge does not want to see Lt Adler lynched, or maybe she just wants to see Le Colonel in a noose. I'm sure that counts for something.

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Amorya

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quote:
Originally posted by Sylvander:
quote:
Originally posted by Amorya:
Eliza Bradshaw

Shipmates who impersonate a lady but really are men are of course inherently a bit suspicious! [Biased] Why, you might fool me into proposing to you! And what a nasty shock that would be.
[OOC note: I thought this might come up. I'm transgendered. So in real life I am now in fact a girl, despite various shipmates having known me as a guy before. That doesn't make much difference in most interactions on a message board, but in a role playing game where third person pronouns are used it's a bit more obvious.

Anyhow, information imparted. If anyone has questions feel free to PM me — we probably don't want to derail this thread.]

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quote:
Originally posted by JFH:
It seems Lavinia Hodge does not want to see Lt Adler lynched, or maybe she just wants to see Le Colonel in a noose. I'm sure that counts for something.

I'm not sure I said that. I just don't think it's likely they're in it together (because voting for one's co-conspirator when they haven't even been nominated strikes me as a really odd thing to do). More than that I'm not sure... I'm pretty certain the Colonel's a bit of a loose cannon, but that doesn't make a murderer.

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"There's something that feels not quite right about the BS that these two are defending themselves with" observed Harry from the end of the bar. "Let me put it this way: I'm not saying that I believe this yet, but what if they're both in the plot and are trying to fuck with us by being obtuse all the time."

The bar quietened.

"All I'm saying right now is that when it comes to voting, we have to get a lynching or we stand no bloody chance of finding the real killers. There is reasonable cause for suspicion against both of these two so let's make sure we can unite against one or the other. I don't much mind which (although I guess I'm more suspicious of the Colonel than the lady at the moment) but I'm happy to vote for either if it secures us a killing."

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quote:
Originally posted by Amorya:
quote:
Originally posted by Sylvander:
quote:
Originally posted by Amorya:
Eliza Bradshaw

Shipmates who impersonate a lady but really are men are of course inherently a bit suspicious! [Biased] Why, you might fool me into proposing to you! And what a nasty shock that would be.
[OOC note: I thought this might come up. I'm transgendered. So in real life I am now in fact a girl,
[tangent]
Apologies, Ms Eliza. I was not aware of this. I had only seen your remark on the shipmate's picture gallery at the start of this Mafia game. I assumed you were posting a picture of yourself as a child for some playful confusion. No revelations, let alone offense intended by me.
But don't you think this apology will stop me from accusing you should I find you looking louche [Biased] ! Or proposing to you, should you dare to show up on the LO thread. Will you? [/tangent]

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Please respect Amorya's wish to receive a PM if you wish to discuss the tangent further, rather than posting on this thread.
Thank you. Chorister, Host.

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Originally posted by JFH:
. . . (the theologist is dead), . . .

Dead? Far from it. Though I must say that my time on earth was good, being among the blessed also has its advantages. It's nice getting to talk to all these doctors of the Church at long last, especially now that, thanks to the Beatific Vision, we know where we all went wrong!
Of course, it turns out that there are a couple of things the Almighty doesn't like to let even us Beati know—knowledge of who's innocent in games of Mafia is strictly Major Saint-and-higher level information—I suppose if I'd just spent one more night studying His Scriptures back in Louvain rather than enjoying the local beer . . .
No, it was good that I enjoyed His works in my past life, and that I now enjoy that station justly given to me in His wisdom. Still—it pains me to see my former fellows fumbling about blindly . . .

quote:
Lord Fastolfe felt a comforting presence nearby, and caught a whiff of something . . . well, divine. Something like a combination of the purest dark chocolate imaginable, the essence of every Central American plantation refined into one infinitesimal quintessence, with just a hint of something . . . citrussy? Herbal? Earthy? Hops??? Who would ever think of combining hops and chocolate—or that it would ever smell this good! For a moment, he forgot his troubles and cares, lost in the etherial bliss of some unearthly comfort.



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Right – who do you want to do in:

Colonel Sylvain de la Botte Trouée as proposed by Lt. Hearte,

Lt. Alice Adler as suggested by Battista Lalonde,

Or perhaps neither of them did it?

Voting commences. Everyone must vote. A consensus of eight will kill.

No time limit, but let’s try to get today finished this week, so that we can have a longish night over the Christmas holiday.

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So, a choice between a talkative Frenchman and a silent American? My ancestor, Lord Rupert Fastolfe III, told the king at the time that the Americans were not to be trusted, and rightly: they backstabbed us, when we were fighting the rest of the world! Imperialist pigs, ruled by someone who calls himself a "democrat" and who gains his popularity from keeping his nation out of war! Ha! War builds character and is good exercise for the masses!

On a side note, I see no reason why our dear brother, the Frenchman (given the amount of English blood in the French nobility, going back to the Angevins, I consider all of them my brothers), should be considered a conspiracist. It took 40 hours for him to be accused, and even then on very loose grounds.

Concerning Lt Adler, I get a bit suspicious. Hodge defends her. She has been rather silent, apart from throwing out accusations. I am unable to tell whether she is a fanatic or not, but I shall vote for her, since she is the more suspicious nominee.
Lack of lynching be the local hun,
I hope th'American proves no nun.
In memoriam, Dai Laicattell.

[ 20. December 2010, 23:26: Message edited by: JFH ]

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Ah, Lord Fastolfe, would you care for a glass of fine Dutch kirsch to go with your chocolat? Or perhaps some Grand Marnier?

We are still raising a glass to those who cling to the higher things of life even, or perhaps especially, in the face of such depressing destruction all around us; and any poetry at such a time is to be celebrated.

As to the time, well I suppose it is time to vote, and as I have nominated so I will vote for Lt Alice Adler. I am of course, never too certain of the time, but should you ever want one of those new-fangled wrist-watches which so many of the officers now prefer to wear, then there is a certain young man of the army who may well oblige you with a Rolex or Omega. Corporal Jacob or Lt.Burt might direct you - just follow the ticking sound. He generally has a good stock of them about his person, as so many watches seemed to have become detached from their owners just lately.

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Tuesday in Holy Week, the day the unproductive fig tree was found withered. Let's hope we're rather more productive, and that our hopes aren't blasted. I'm marginally more convinced by Lieutenant Hearte's reasoning (his reasoning is surely as good as his tripe surprise, though maybe that's not saying much after all). Colonel Sylvain de la Botte Trouée, what are you hiding?

[are/our typo. Nothing to do with our current mission, but there's a clue to my accent.]

[ 21. December 2010, 03:29: Message edited by: Autenrieth Road ]

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Not a clue. I'll vote for Sylvain just to even up the count.

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quote:
Originally posted by Autenrieth Road:
Colonel Sylvain de la Botte Trouée, what are you hiding?

Viens et visite ma tente [Biased]

This war is a bloody feminist conspiracy. Bad enough about the trenches - but even back here we only see men dying so far! So: Lt Alice Adler

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This is tricky. TBH, I have a feeling that they are both innocent. I'm not sure that voting no lynching helps either tho....

For the reasons I described earlier, I think it's very unlikely that they are both in it together. If either of them is a conspirator, I think there can only be one. For now I'm leaning towards giving the benefit of the doubt to the Colonel, who I think is probably a loose cannon rather than a murderer. Which I suppose means that I vote for Alice Adler.

I'm not at all sure I'm doing the right thing, though [Help]

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quote:
Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
This is tricky. TBH, I have a feeling that they are both innocent. I'm not sure that voting no lynching helps either tho....

Uh huh. A vote for no lynching helps both. A vote for a lynching helps one, but at the other's expense. This is elementary, and I find it odd that you would reach a conclusion that you should vote to lynch someone you believe innocent.

For myself, I vote for Lt Adler.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sylvander:
Viens et visite ma tente [Biased]

Come visit your aunt? Who is staying in your tent?

Rhoda entered the tent. No aunt, but my goodness le Colonel was messy. She knew she ought to be searching for a fast-acting contact poison, but first something far more important needed attending to. With a single practiced yank, she stripped...

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...the bed of its tangled sheets and blanket, and began remaking it with deft hospital corners.


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"In line with my previous logic, I'm going to hurl my not-inconfuckingsiderable weight behind the effort to lynch Alice Adler. Sorry luv, but someone's got to take a drop or we'll all be for it."

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„Hurrah! Victoire! Vive la France!“ le colonel de la Botte Trouée roared.
So hard he had to laugh at nurse Rhoda's post (he had some German blood and was easily amused) that the champagne cork came early and with a mighty plop flew through the tent flap. (Where it unexpectedly hit a conspirator, not found dead until much later). He poured her a glass and toasted Florence Nightingale and all her little sisters!
The visit from this cute nurse was a godsend and his greatest success since Sedan. He was determined to get the maximum pleasure out of it. Sensually rubbing his hands [the selection of smilies here in Belgium was deplorably insufficient] he rapidly undressed …


… and hopped into the first pure white linen he had seen in months. The young woman found the old man was indeed veery, veery good in bed: he went straight to sleep, he didn't snore, he didn't wriggle and was not seen again until he finished his hibernation.


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For some reason I still feel the Colonel is the less likely of the two. I'm going to follow the crowd again and go with Lt Adler this round, and I hope to goodness she's guilty. If she's not, we're in trouble. (Not least because myself and a number of others will have voted for innocents twice in a row.)

I wonder if the fanatic has found anyone yet. Large unsubtle hints please!

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Not so fast, Sylvain. It would require everyone left to vote for you for you to hang, but you haven't officially escaped the noose yet. To be true to my word (and to keep things interesting), I'll vote Sylvain.

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Lieutenant Hearte, I hope you don't lose count in a similar way when ladling the ingredients for tonight's tripe soufflé. By my count, seven people had already voted for Lieutenant Adler before you cast your vote, meaning that le Colonel de la Botte Trouée cannot be lynched, despite your vote.

One more vote will suffice to lynch Lieutenant Adler.

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Lt Hearte, as Miss Rhoda said, we note that you seem to have tried to hang the vote...

Apart from this le colonel mutters dreamishly in the face of fiendish Hearte's vote: "Death, where is thy sting, now that nurse R. has made my bed!"

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quote:
Originally posted by Sylvander:
Lt Hearte, as Miss Rhoda said, we note that you seem to have tried to hang the vote...

Apart from this le colonel mutters dreamishly in the face of fiendish Hearte's vote: "Death, where is thy sting, now that nurse R. has made my bed!"

Jacob voted for Lt Addler.
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Jacob remembered the Major's instructions, and voted for Lt Addler to be investigated in the due process.
He reflected that there was little way to decide guilt till one mafia had been found, but any innocent was one too many. In hindsight he felt all would be clear, at the moment impenetrable fog surrounded all.

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Agnés wondered if it would make her seem more suspicious to vote when the outcome was already decided, or more suspicious if she didn't vote at all? Being rather new to all this, she wasn't sure. So went with Lt Adler, as there seems to be no stopping the angry hordes now.

She wandered sadly back to the parlour for the afternoon milking.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sylvander:
Lt Hearte, as Miss Rhoda said, we note that you seem to have tried to hang the vote...

Apart from this le colonel mutters dreamishly in the face of fiendish Hearte's vote: "Death, where is thy sting, now that nurse R. has made my bed!"

It's hard to think straight with so many people talking at once: xpost with Amorya

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Leo was feeling decidedly indecisive. He had heard little that helped him decide which of the suspects was more likely to be guilty and had no great reason to choose one over the other. They were both suspicious, but there is still a very good chance that both are innocent.

Clearly while he has been thinking a decision has been made, but he decides that, since he must vote, Lt Adler was the right choice.

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quote:
Originally posted by Hart:
It's hard to think straight with so many people talking at once: xpost with Amorya

I find it hard to think at any time. But how would I know what I mean if I don't hear what I think?
Regarding facts le colonel, chewing on his impressive moustache grudgingly admits that the fould-mouthed beefeater is right about the x-post.

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The suspense! How much longer must we wait?
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Only Lt. Adler still to vote, and though she might well object to the result, she can't change it. She is duly lynched and may now post a death scene.


Unfortuntely for (most of) the rest of you, she was an Allied Soldier whose work with the front line troops had made an Infantry Expert.

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Uh oh…
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Merde! #&*@##....

Battista swore in all the languages he knew and in several dialects too. He was used to the patrons of his bar having a secret life about which it was best for him to know nothing. But the fact that the milk drinker WAS actually an innocent little girl who drank milk shook him to the core.

How typical of this brutal war that the dastardly and evil seemed to thrive while the innocent went quickly to the slaughter.

He sighed. "Agnes, please feed the cow, and make sure there is enough milk for everyone here to have a glass in memory of Lt.Alice."

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Blindfolded, Alice shivered in the raw spring wind. Shots rang out. She was cold, so cold... but for a moment, she seemed to sense the rustling of corn stalks and the sunshine of an Illinois summer day.

[OOC note: I found a more informative article about the Hello Girls (telephone operators who connected the trenches with HQ, sometimes under combat conditions). Unfortunately I didn't see it till after I had already created my character. It turns out that my rank should have been Operator First Class, not Lieutenant.]

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And with that night falls...


The end of a bad day for Wales, incidentally. Not only was the remarkable war poet Dai Laicattell found murdered, Welsh rugby union international Bryn Lewis was killed in Ypres today when a German shell fell onto an officer's mess.

Those of you with night actions please take them now.

My plan is to treat the period from the start of Christmas eve to midnight on 28 December as not counting towards any deadline. Anyone may post on this thread over that time, and may take any valid game action, but I won't call the end of any phase until 24 hours of ordinary time has passed.

So we might kick off the prosecution phase before Christmas, but (unless 'night' is resolved incredibly quickly, and we get onto Defence before Christmas eve) you'll get at least some time on Wednesday of next week to nominate your victim-of-choice.

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"Fuckity fuck."

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Rhoda was woken from a deep sleep by the sound of shots to find herself curled up, Ruth-like, at the Colonel's Boaz feet. Hmmmmm. At least he wasn't snoring, wriggling, or kicking. Now how to get out of the tent without being seen by the gossip-hungry camp? She scooped up the dirty linens and piled them loosely in her arms so they hid most of her face. Then slipped out the tent-flap. She dropped them at the laundry tent and continued to the bar.

Right, what do we know? Aside from the fact that we are having tremendously bad luck at catching conspirators?

We know that Corporal Jacob Marley, Lord Jarvis Fastolfe of Harrisford, and our talented bartender Battista Lalonde (she raised her glass of milk towards the barcophagus) have nominated innocents (Father Didier, Lieutenant Dai Laicatell, and Lieutenant Alice Adler). We know that an innocent (Father Didier) nominated Second Officer Lavinia Hodge.

On the other hand, as Nurse Bradshaw has pointed out, we don't want to necessarily penalize people for making nominations. So I don't know if the above information makes any of the named people more suspicious than anyone else.

I don't know what to conclude from the voting patterns except to note that an early imbalance of votes towards one nominee tends to quickly snowball into a lynching.

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Bloody hell!

Still, at least for me - who now knows that in this round we only had two innocent nominees (you can verify by lynching me and as this is a team game if this helps to spread certitude among the honest I'd even almost be all for it) but meanwhile let us speculate at leisure - this death might indicate a few things. (This is what lynching is all about).

Let us see. What would you consider doing if you were Mafia?

For instance:
Mafia were the only ones who knew that there were only two innocents on the line.

In this situation Mafia have no significant reason to prefer the one over the other. A no-lynching is highly unlikely but it is the only option they want to avoid. So they wish to delay at least one of their votes (with only two nominees one is enough) until late to make sure that there is no hung vote. Therefore: Look for at least one conspirator among those voting anytime after the outcome was decided. (Once the outcome was clear there was no need to wait any longer).
If I were Mafia I would not be the first to vote - rather wait for the first two or so votes to see which way the wind is blowing and then throw your weight behind it.
A Mafioso is unlikely to be someone who levels the vote early on. CuppaT leveled the score to 2 - 2 (after a 2-0 for Alice) this round. I'd venture the conjecture that she is not Mafia (or it is clever bluffing).

Someone (I think Hearte) avoided the fatal blow to Alice (as both AR and I quickly pointed out), making a hung vote slightly(!) more likely. Can one read something into this, i.e. would it prove Hearte innocent (as Mafia would precisely want to avoid a hung vote)? It could mean something, if only his action had been deliberate - but it was not, as it was due to a crosspost.
But even if it was premeditated it might be a bluff - a Mafioso voting in direction of a hung vote, but on the relatively safe assumption that one of the remaining four or five players would pull the trigger anyway since there is a dominant mood (me included) that lynchings are necessary to disclose information.
Question: how likely do we think such a bluff is? I think it unlikely: If it had been meant as a bluff, Lt Hearte would not have himself pointed out the simple (and apparently truthful)solution "crosspost". Therefore I assume "no bluff", i.e. Hearte more likely innocent than not. Plus CuppaT (casting the 2-2 vote).

This is what I conclude from today's outcome. Not much - but others may add more reflection or quesiton this one.

I'd include speculation about what conclusions we could draw from today's result if I was guilty - but that would be an even longer post and it does not come as intuitively to me as the above did (as I would have to put myself outside my actual knowledge). Maybe someone else have a go.

I could add reflection of why you could judge my innocence likelier than my innocence.

PS: Someone posted a funny post this day which sounded like they had picked up on the suggestion (whose) to investigate me and found me innocent. I think it might be wise if the nurse protected this poster of the funny post tonight [Biased]

Obviously the above may prove futile tomorrow morning. But I have to post it now in case I do not live to see the morning :-)

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I'm not sure how accurately you can gauge things from voting time — I voted the first time I logged on whilst the voting was open, for example. I suppose if I were a conspirator I might spend more time getting it right, but it could well just be people posting when they get a chance to check the thread.

Still, in the absence of other leads…

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quote:
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The end of a bad day for Wales, incidentally. Not only was the remarkable war poet Dai Laicattell found murdered, Welsh rugby union international Bryn Lewis was killed in Ypres today when a German shell fell onto an officer's mess.

Excuse me, Major Daute, but I think you will find that Major Lewis' tragic death occurred yesterday.

I remain, however, completely awed by the amount of knowledge you have at your fingertips.

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So, eight of us voted for both those poor innocents Fr.Didier and Operator Adler [Officer Hodge, Nurse Bradshaw, Lord Fastolfe, me, Conte Leo, Miss Agnes and Corporal Marley].

Two of us voted for Sylvain twice [Nurse Rhoda and Cookie Hearte].

Two of us were swinging voters [Lt.Burt T and Sgt.Harry].

Battista poured a good slug of Australian Army issued rum into his glass of milk and stirred it thoughtfully. "Hiding in a large group seems the most sensible thing to do to me," he mused. "And I know I am not hiding from anything, so that leaves seven names to think hard about."

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