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Olaf
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quote: Originally posted by Bishops Finger: Christmas Day this year (i.e 2011) falls on a Sunday, so our schedule will doubtless be our usual Sunday BCP said Matins at 930am and Sung Mass at 1030am (with a procession to the Crib for the prayers).
I am sorry to say that the last time Christmas fell on a Sunday, we had no services other than the Christmas Eve one.
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Bishops Finger
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Well, we had no Christmas Day service for a couple of years - we had no priest of our own, and our churchwardens were not prepared to open the doors on Christmas morning for anyone who might have wanted to come in and pray, even though I offered (as Reader) to lead a brief Service of the Word or whatever.
I am glad to say that the new regime is keen on having the church open for prayer and worship at every opportunity.
I suppose it all depends on whether church leaders see the building itself as a sort of sacrament.....
Ian J.
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Olaf
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quote: Originally posted by Bishops Finger: I am glad to say that the new regime is keen on having the church open for prayer and worship at every opportunity.
I'm glad you can say "new regime" at all. It seems like only yesterday you were the regime.
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PD
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quote: Originally posted by Cottontail: In the Kirk, we wouldn't dream of not having a service just because Sunday was Boxing Day. Church Law obliges us to have a service every Sunday in every parish, and we need a special dispensation from Presbytery not to. There would have been quite a few kirks who had nothing on Christmas Day, as was once traditional - but the Sunday, definitely!
As it was, we had a quiet service of Holy Communion on Christmas Day itself. About 50 people turned up, about half of whom were visitors. Then Sunday was our all-age service, where the children brought along their presents, etc. Between the two churches, we had the usual c. 90 folk.
In the United Episcopal Church, there is a Canon entitled "Of due Observance of the Lord's Day" which requires a service every Sunday. The only other days which get an honourable mention in our Canons are Christmas, Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. This particular Canon goes back to 1813, and has survived almost 200 years, though it lost an exhortation to communicants to avoid 'vain and frivilous amusments' somewhere between 1813 and 1958.
PD
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Sir Pellinore
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Seems bizarre for an Anglican joint.
As Angloid said, they are supposed to.
I can understand and sympathise when he says he has problems identifying with certain parties who identify as 'Liberal Catholic'.
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Services all 3 days. Christmas Day packed out with people (extra chairs brought in) despite snow and teacherous roads and pavemwents.
Christmas Eve quieter than normal but foul weather -- Sunday 26th - well we didn't meet in the evening but morning as usual. Good support
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Carys
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quote: Originally posted by Bishops Finger: We can manage a Mass with just two assistants (one to serve and one to wave the smoke), so absenteeism in the staff department is not too much of a problem!
Wimps -- it's possible to wave the smoke and serve!
Carys
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Bishops Finger
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Carys - you are right, of course, but the one and only server/thurifer does look a bit lonely in the sanctuary........
Martin L - I'm not quite sure how to take your remark re regimes! As a Reader, I am indeed part of the new regime (we now have a Ministry Team), but during the interregnum I was subject to the Rural Dean and, of course, the PCC. If I've given the impression that I ran the place, that's a wrong impression (though I try to be the visionary.....).
Ian J.
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Olaf
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quote: Originally posted by Bishops Finger: Martin L - I'm not quite sure how to take your remark re regimes! As a Reader, I am indeed part of the new regime (we now have a Ministry Team), but during the interregnum I was subject to the Rural Dean and, of course, the PCC. If I've given the impression that I ran the place, that's a wrong impression (though I try to be the visionary.....).
Ian J.
Take it as a bit snarky, perhaps, as is my normal fashion...
My own church has been going through its own struggles for quite a while now, and I recall being interested to read your posts. You didn't give the impression you ran the place, but we (in Eccles) of all people know that few people step up to help at their own churches. Whether you were official or not, as someone proactively working to try to help the situation, you were/are a leader.
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Callan
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The small village church I look after had it's usual Midnight Mass (numbers slightly down) and Christmas morning (numbers up by a third!). Normally on the 4th Sunday of the month we would have a poorly attended BCP Eucharist at 8am and nothing else, and I was pretty certain that the attendance would consist of me and the sacristan so I cancelled that and announced we would have Carols round the Crib instead at 3pm in the afternoon. We got 29 people, mostly regulars but a smattering of people who rarely darken the door, so that worked. I felt a bit guilty about the lack of Eucharistic provision but as I'm the only AC in the village, as it were, no-one else was bothered.
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