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Jahlove
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I passed the second-sift selection tests and have an interview on Tuesday. They have outlined the areas in which they will be asking questions and you're allowed to take *notes* with you (lol, I've just managed to pare down 3,000 words to a sheet of A4 with red, blue and green highlights!).
My *work-support* person managed to get me an informal, off-the-record 10-minute advice chat with someone who used to work in this department; he said he thought I had the right skills but needed to come across more confidently.
I sang this morning's psalm in front of around 150 people - that's the sort of confidence I need to transfer I guess - and, actually, thinking about this reminds me that I write a little note to myself at the top of the music saying *breathe* and a smiley-face and also that in order to read the words, I take off my glasses, which turns the congo into a bit of a blur - just added that to the prompt-sheet.
I've really done all I can to prepare - che sera sera.
![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif) All of us on the hunt
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Zoey
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*hides in corner*
Job-hunt-wise there is a lot of stuff that's been going on over the past few months which I might post about some time.
Currently:-
There is a place which takes full-time volunteers which I think I'd really, really, really like to volunteer for. Spent the best part of a week preparing application stuff to them. Emailed my drafts to a friend for him to read over. He's sent back thoughts and suggestions. Feels like there's a lot which needs improving in my drafts.
Ah well.
Time for a strong coffee and then down to business I suppose ...
(Reminder to self - this is just your first-choice place you'd really like to go to. There are other good choices. Plus, at the end of the day there's always CSV if you can't get to anywhere approaching them individually. Life doesn't hang on this one application ...
Hmmmm. Need to keep all that in mind. It does make everything seem a lot less 'Eeek'-ish.)
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Off Centre View
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Still applying for things, still keeping going.
Am giving myself a couple of months to get a job I'd really like and then I can start worrying as to my future. My parents know that I am applying for new jobs and are willing to support me while I search for the right job for myself at this time. I'm really blessed in many ways.
On a side note, I've been developing an online magazine concept and now have people willing to write for me and to partner with me on the organisational/business side - as I wait for a full-time job I'm keeping active with new ideas and pursuing other opportunities.
Peace to all others pursuing jobs and going through similar things.
Off Centre View
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neandergirl
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for all searching for the right "me-shaped" space.
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We come from love, we return to love, and all around is love.
Lord, ease our burdens, give us peace and enable us to do your work. Tree Bee
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Catrine
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Originally posted by Off Centre View:
On a side note, I've been developing an online magazine concept and now have people willing to write for me and to partner with me on the organisational/business side - as I wait for a full-time job I'm keeping active with new ideas and pursuing other opportunities.
Good luck with this venture OCV, I hope it will be successful for you.
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Telepath
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For Jahlove, mountainsnowtiger, Off Centre View, and Beautiful_Dreamer.
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Jahlove
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Hmm. Interview was scheduled for 2.00 and actually began at about 2.15-ish. Prior to this, I was asked to produce ID as per their letter which I did but the letter had also asked for birth certificate as proof of age, nationality - I offered these but was told they weren't necessary. Two on the questioners' panel and one note-taker. The woman was quite *warm*, the man just seemed bored - I know they are asking exactly the same questions of everyone and I think I managed to get a few good points in within this structure but I definitely do not feel I *shone*.
They are interviewing all this week (2 panels running simultaneously) & candidates to be informed around end October. By my rough reckoning, they will, therefore, be seeing around 80 people - not sure how many vacancies they are looking to fill but that seems way over the top to me. Candidates were also asked to complete and bring with them a Health Declaration - again, this was not requested.
Not very hopeful I feel. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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Why were you asked to bring a Health Declaration? Is that not unusual? It just seems unnecessary to me.
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Sandemaniac
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Jahlove,
It's incredibly hard to get any sort of feeling back from people's reactions, in my experience. I've been offered a job after one where I died on my arse, presumably in sympathy when they realised that every other candidate had seen the information pack bar me - they'd put it in the internal post and I'd already finished my thesis and left!
And in the interview for my current post, I felt that one of the panel was utterly disinterested, and I had the devil's own job trying to behave as though she was there. Turned out she was the "token woman" on the panel - her words - and she'd been buttonholed in the corridor about 5 minutes before to make up the panel. No wonder she looked bored...
So long as you didn't fall asleep, you have a chance - good luck!
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Jahlove
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BD, probably not unusual for this particular organization - what surprised me was that they didn't even ask for the completed forms. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
Thanks, Sandemaniac - I did manage to stay awake! ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Zoey
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I think (am not positive) that this is a pond difference which I've come across before on the Ship.
In the UK employers fairly often ask about health a/o disabilities during the recruitment process, but there are laws (such as the Disability Discrimination Act) which mean that, in theory at least, they can't discriminate against you on the basis of health or disability stuff (n.b. mental health problems of 12-months duration or longer = disability under the DDAct).
Whereas, I've got the impression that in the US employers ?don't / ?aren't allowed to ask about health stuff while recruiting.
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Uncle Pete
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In Canada, at least, persons living with disabilities are encouraged to self-identify when seeking employment with the Federal or Provincial governments, and many other businesses. After years of overt and hidden discrimination, this is a step forward. This also applies to women, persons of colour, and First Nations, and in some few cases, GLBT people. You still have to qualify for the job, but accomodation is made at the interview level*, and on the job*, if you are successful.
*In my case this was critical. I read and write the other official language fluently, but, because of hearing impairment, am crap at oral comprehension. My mobility issues were also addressed. Sometimes the job interview took place other than in the customary location, my standard cubicle was enlarged and adapted and special equipment ordered in.
For the rest of it, I had the same hoops to jump through as any other prospective and actual employee.
There are some employments for which a medical examination is requested, or at least evidence of a recent examination. But generally, the state of your health is no immediate business of a prospective employer.
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In the States, the ADA* requires that disabilities be noted on a separate form, apart from the application itself, so that 1)the disability is not used to discriminate against persons with disabilities, and 2) the employers can verify that they have considered persons with disabilitites in their hiring.
*ADA = Americans with Disabilities Act
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Janine
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Well, I just had the shortest job, ever. Remember the lady who was so thrilled with my resume and references?
Accepted a position as a trainee -- I was to trace the zigzag inkmarks on circular charts that would come to me from natural gas pipeline gauges, thus providing the clients info. re: flow rates, etc.
After 13 working days, maybe 5 of which involved any actual hands-on paperwork re: my position, and maybe one of which involved heavy, day-long use of the machine I was being hired to operate, they have decided I am not up to snuff. The lady who was supposedly training me is to go off on vacation next week, and so would not be around to continue training me (toward a second "two week evaluation") -- so I'm done there.
see here for details
I almost skipped merrily out of there end-of-day Friday, but they started to realize they were leaving themselves short handed if I left so soon, so I said I'd stay at least through the coming week.
I hope I get as many emails and cellphone calls offering me interviews, now that I will be unemployed again, as I have turned away since I went to work there.
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Never Conforming, all I can say is, if you're going through hell, keep going.
Janine, how awful. Hopefully you'll get another job without missing a beat. Hang in there.
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Janine
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Actually, I could go a while without working, with careful planning, because the spouse is doing well at work.
But I hate the idea of sitting around and being driven back to work later at a tighter financial time, with no choice about what job to take then, because I won;t have the luxury of being picky.
So I'll keep looking.
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Geneviève
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That sounds downright manipulative, and just being cynical here, but maybe you were doing the job too well, and trainer-lady was upset about how quickly you were picking things up.....
Whatever the reasons for the "letting go", i am impressed by your spirit. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Dang, Janine, you're far, far better off out of there! (read your blog)
Something's going on they aren't telling you. And for that, you should probably be grateful. Looks like a soap opera in a snake pit--as done by Precious Moments™.
Praying better things will come soon! LC
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Sandemaniac
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Blimey Janine - and here's me thinking I'm unlucky!
Let's hope something comes along ASAP - good luck!
Never Conforming - I may be preaching to the converted here, or not taking into account factors of which I know nossink, but in your situation I'd go round the agencies and offer to do anything . Last time I was between jobs I did exactly that and got a job from the second agency I visited (turning up in the flesh may be the important factor here. Don't know for sure as it never occurred to me at the time to try any other way). Admittedly it was pants - working in a hospital kitchen - but I had some money coming in, I wasn't down the damn DHSS every fortnight to sign on, and I wasn't going stir-crazy doing nothing but writing letters and waiting to rip the postman's arm off every morning.
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Sandemaniac
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Blimey Janine - and here's me thinking I'm unlucky!
Let's hope something comes along ASAP - good luck!
Never Conforming - I may be preaching to the converted here, or not taking into account factors of which I know nossink, but in your situation I'd go round the agencies and offer to do anything . Last time I was between jobs I did exactly that and got a job from the second agency I visited (turning up in the flesh may be the important factor here. Don't know for sure as it never occurred to me at the time to try any other way). Admittedly it was pants - working in a hospital kitchen - but I had some money coming in, I wasn't down the damn DHSS every fortnight to sign on, and I wasn't going stir-crazy doing nothing but writing letters and waiting to rip the postman's arm off every morning. And you can tell anyone you have an interview with that you are doing something...
AG
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Off Centre View
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Got a rejection email from a job I was very very interested in and am feeling a bit down about things regarding work at the moment. Living at home with my folks is nice for the creature comforts, but I miss a lot of independence of living on my own (I've previously lived away while studying most of the past six years). It's a bit frustrating in a way, particularly when others seem to get the dream jobs that they want.
Having said that, one of the big things that I've been learning over the past few months has been patience in a lot of areas in my life (and a healthy dose of humility as well). I've also had the time to start running again, about every other day at the moment, as well as using some weights once more. If I'm going to have another month or so before getting the right job, then I'll use that time as best I can to improve my health and feel better in my own skin.
My thoughts and prayers to everyone else doing the whole job search thing.
Peace,
Off Centre View
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Jahlove
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No dice for me. Boo-hiss.
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Off Centre View
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Sorry to hear about that Jahlove.
My online magazine is now in the very early stages and I've just put up a basic placeholder site while I, and those who have agreed to write for me, develop the content of the site.
Would there be any problem if I were to put a link to my new site in my signature?
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Uncle Pete
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Originally posted by Off Centre View:
Would there be any problem if I were to put a link to my new site in my signature?
You may place it in your signature, but not in the body of the post - as that is considered advertising.
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Sandemaniac
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And I'm adding to the no-joy stories too...
1. Wasn't sure I really wanted it, but decided to give it a go. Such a dull interview that by the time it got to asking me if I had any questions I wanted to ask, I'd lost the will to live. No attempt to sell me the merits of the job - and I had decided I wasn't interested by the time I got a chance to ask.
2. Half-way through, mention was made of something I've done in the past and am not prepared to do again. Much muttering about "accommodations could be made for the right candidate" etc. During the tour of the place post-interview, I find out that it's a major part of the job!
3. A bit luckier this time - rang them beforehand, negotiated with them, and we both realised that I wasn't sensibly going to be able to do the job. So I never made the interview I was invited to...
Pretty crushing, three disastrous interviews in rapid succession. On the other hand, there are lessons to learn.
1. If you aren't sure you want it, find out more first before you apply - it wastes more time & effort getting to the interview than it does doing a bit of interacting with the prospective employer.
2. Do your research properly before you apply - especially, find out if there are hidden nasties lurking! Who knows what is lurking beneath the job description?
You'd think I'd have worked these out years ago, wouldn't you? The supply of jobs advertised has dried up, two years on I still have no idea of any achievable career objectives and the long winter nights are on their way. I fear that gloom is about to fall. Ah well, if you can say it here, we all have our cross to bear!
AG
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Janine
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Was supposed to go into New Orleans today for a grueling-sounding two-hour interview and evaluation with a staffing company. Got a voicemail yesterday that the two ladies coordinating same had forgotten that they would not even be in town today. We are supposed to reschedule -- it may take several days until I can get the time off without major disturbance... since I'm still @ the weird little gas company covering others' vacation time.
I think maybe they, the staffing company ladies, need an Administrative Specialist.
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Off Centre View
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Originally posted by PeteCanada:
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Originally posted by Off Centre View:
Would there be any problem if I were to put a link to my new site in my signature?
You may place it in your signature, but not in the body of the post - as that is considered advertising.
Thanks PeteCanada
I'll do that - I was just checking as I didn't want to break any ship rules or anything like that. I'll update my signature soon.
Keep going everyone, I'm going to keep on applying for jobs and to just carry on plugging away.
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Zoey
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Hmmmmm.
Have just got back from a couple of days visiting a project which I might or might not volunteer full-time with for the next few months.
It was a very interesting and quite fun couple of days. One of the project's current full-time volunteers is leaving in November and I think that if I want to be her replacement then the job is mine.
Fortunately the volunteer co-ordinator is happy to give me a few days thinking time so I can decide whether it's the place for me or not. There are some fantastic things about it as a project and as a place to volunteer, but also some not so great things. In addition, I have a weird uneasy 'gut' feeling at the moment, which I suspect is just my body feeling anxious about the decision and therefore being annoying, but which isn't helping me think things through all that much.
Well, whatever decision I make, it's only for a few months, so not destiny-altering. Am not too worried or het-up about making this decision, just slightly bemused and puzzled about what to do.
(If anybody is wondering about my apparently inconsistent posts on this thread over the last few months, the process went roughly:-
April - May: vaguely looking to get back into work, maybe part-time at first, and planning, once settled into some kind of care job, to then think about the longer-term future.
June - August: suddenly wondered if I should go back to uni this Sept and did some intensive thinking about my longer-term future.
Late August - now: decided it would be too rushed to try to get back to uni this year, continued thinking about long-term future, decided on going back to uni next autumn, started looking for placements to gain relevant care experience over the next few months.)
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Bummer, Jahlove. I am sorry. They are the losers.
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Janine
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Went into New Orleans today, had a super-brief interview, tested typing speed, Microsoft Word & Excell skills. Was quizzed about taking medical dictation.
They had me fill out everything -- I-9 form and all, you know, proof of citizenship (or at least being geal to work here). Direct deposit forms for my pay. When I got home I saw their admin lady had emailed me the doc. I need to get set up for online training (they do a lot with Microsoft).
Now it remains to be seen whether they ever even call me. They are one office of a few people who are apparently hooked up with three major staffing franchises:
One with a more staid and maybe even stodgy "feel", mostly accountants & related --
One with a more "fun" feel, cute radio ads, but still accountants --
And one general office/professional.
I thought about forcing the hair into a shining chignon and pouring the body into a staitjacket of a business suit... But I figured they might as well see the "real" me, so I wore a simple black knit 3/4 sleeve shirt over a floor-length peasant/crinkly skirt (in dark colors). And black loafers. I seriously doubt they could land me a position that paid me enough to make me wear full-frontal-formality every day, not without my degree completed anyway.
And of course there was scattered demonic road construction, and several totally demon-possessed mini-storms swept up from the Gulf all day, one after another, to make sure I was all wet and bedraggled and nerve-wracked by the time I got up to the 14th floor.
Naturally.
But, well, anyway, I am now all set up "on the books" with them. Considering that they are the local representatives for at least three of the companies I have been bombarding with online applications for several weeks, maybe they figured I'd sit down and shut up if they called me in to meet them.
And the ladies at the gas company were all alone after I left at lunchtime, with neither me nor their sweet little MWF college student assistant. Poor darlings.
I have about another week or 10 days of income with them, covering vacation times for a couple of the ladies, but after that they'll be done with me.
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I'm signing into this thread. I expect my search to take about 6 months, but who knows. I am loving my current job, but I work stupid hours. Around 60hrs most week for no extra spondoolies. Just the gratitude of my boss, which doesn't pay the bills. i really love my job, which makes it kind of sad but I would like to have a bit of a life and do a few more fun things than I am currently doing. Strange that. I told the boss over and over that I would leave if the hours didn't change, eventually a threat such as that has to be acted on.
I have had a few agency interviews, which is the drag but necessary. There are a few things that may be going, but at the moment I want the interview practise. One of the biggest problems is my mother who is living her life vicariously through me and rang me up after an interview (at work) to find out whether I got the job. Jeez - talk about inappropriate and jumping the gun - and this was after clear direction about what I wanted and how things were to be from me (I told her not to call me at work and that I was there for practise - not to get the job.)
I believe I am going to have to cut her out of the process as I can't handle that sort of pressure, ontop of the pressure of sneaking out the office and that sort of stuff.
Anyway, I should be around here for a while, probably won't be posting too often. It all feels a little daunting and makes me sad that I am doing this - but I can't keep up the hours that I do despite the love of the job, but hey - it may bring something better in the long run.
My boss does know I am doing this and he is sad, but supportive of me making more of a life for myself. We have discussed ways of making the workload more realistic and he just didn't manage to do it.
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Wow, Beenster, thanks for sharing that. It is nice to know that someone else is considering a change of job because someone at the current job hasn't been able to come through with a change that is critical to your lifestyle.
I am at the two years and two months point of a three year contract. My workplace is trying to get organized so that the position can continue but I don't enjoy living here and don't want to stay. My boss knows this but is sure I will stay. He's in denial.
I wish I had an idea of where I might go but it is still very much up in the air. There is a chance I might stay for a bit if I can't find anything else. Also, it will be a long nine months if anyone finds out I plan to turn down an extension, especially if I don't have firm plans for what I will do next.
Any ideas for how or when to let someone know they should be starting a search for a replacement rather than setting everything up for me to continue?
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Originally posted by lily pad:
Any ideas for how or when to let someone know they should be starting a search for a replacement rather than setting everything up for me to continue?
What I did with my boss, is to lay out the conditions of me staying - that was to have reasonable working hours. I did that several times, until it seemed like I was just calling my bluff and in the end I had to act on the threat.
He always appeared to take me seriously, we would have a day of him making a big deal about how he had to get me out of the office on time. But, this never lasted more than a day or two. I gave him strategies that might have helped him manage but he just couldn't do this one little thing.
He does know I am looking now and is taking a friendly interest in my activities. That is kind of him to be fair. But, even if he changed things now, it would be too little too late.
It wasn't just him, I have had the usual HR meetings to cut the hours and I was disappointed (there is a gross English understatement) when a) they tried to give me extra work and b) drew my attention in a meeting on Friday about how I wouldn't do this extra work. I spit happily in the direction of the nasty, horrible HR lady who seemed to think it was ok for me to do what I am doing and gave me no support whatsoever, indeed the reverse.
Anyway, what you could do lily pad, is work out the issues that might keep you in your current role and present them to your boss to have written into your new contract. If there is any way to do that - I did try to find a compromise and am glad that I did - it is worth exploring. If you don't go that route, I wouldn't worry about the company wasting time. They wouldn't give you a second thought if things were the other way round and they were trying to get rid of you. Cynical? Maybe. But, in this game, the primary responsibility is to oneself - yes you do have a responsibility to your company but you need to consider numero uno very highly. That can be done while keeping one's integrity I think. The other thing, you can always look around to see what is out there, it may mean that you actually wind up chosing to stay.
Oh well, I am off on holiday so won't be around for a week - sun and sea, lucky me (there's the start of a poem). A week away from sneaking to agencies and stuff. Oh the grey hairs that come from this process, I am lucky that I am in it from a strong position but boy, I will be glad when it is over.
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I've got an interview for next week ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
oh no, I haven't been on one of those since.......... ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
anxious, excited, and ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
going to read my "how to interview book"
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You're exactly right Janine.
In the past, it seems, the best jobs and interviews have been the ones that do at least,if not more, work selling themselves to me as the other way 'round.
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The very best, ebeth, on your interview!
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Hello all - I'm still applying for jobs, but have just heard that I'm on the shortlist for an interesting job in London. I've been told that 60 people applied for a particular graduate job and that I'm in the shortlist for it - so please pray for me if it's the right job at this time.
Peace and my thoughts with all those also applying for jobs.
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yes, all the best OCV!
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Yeah, good luck OCV!
Peeps, keep trying. If you're in total despair, have no self-belief left, and life seems a slough of despond, remind yourself that you haven't interviewed with every company on Earth yet. If you go round all of them, eventually one of them will take you. If only because they got you mixed up with someone else.
KEEP TRYING.
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Today was my last day on the weird little technical job at the weird little business owned by the weird little family.
Went out to celebrate by shopping.
Watched Grandma for a while -- replied to an email re: my resume on line.
On my way to church came a cell phone call re: that reply.
I go in tomorrow afternoon for an interview.
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Go Janine!
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Good luck with the interviews, folks!
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Go Janine!
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Are information interviews a good idea? I'm kinda of wary of making them.
Networking sounds all wonderful, but all my friends and contacts keep saying "Sorry, no one is hiring."
I just applied to a few jobs in Admin and research. I'm a bit depressed because I was just turned down for a recent position with a research think tank.
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quote:
Originally posted by Telepath:
Yeah, good luck OCV!
Peeps, keep trying. If you're in total despair, have no self-belief left, and life seems a slough of despond, remind yourself that you haven't interviewed with every company on Earth yet. If you go round all of them, eventually one of them will take you. If only because they got you mixed up with someone else.
KEEP TRYING.
What a great reminder! Thanks
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Also sometimes it's worth a follow-up call, letter, visit to a contact that did not hire you the first time 'round. Maybe that shining star of a wonderful person they chose over you was actually a fake, or had a false credential here & there, or had a simple personality conflict with some un-titled peon somewhere in the bowels of the business -- untitled, supposedly uninfluential, but secretly the real power behind the board room.
So -- a thank-you soon after an interview, and a contact a couple weeks or a month after they hire someone else, to remind them you exist and ask them to keep you in mind...
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