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Loveheart
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I have a job interview, 20 hours per week in a school. Its a bit of a trek so am not entirely sure if I want it, but prayers would be appreciated!
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Pretty Butterfly
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Well done Loveheart.
Well, after filling out four more applications, one of them has resulted in an interview offer ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif) . It's a permanent full time job in London.
I too would appreciate prayers. Not sure how I'd feel about moving to London but the job looks good and I'm going to have to move somewhere.
I'll be filling out another application tomorrow, that'll make five in a week, I hope something comes of one of them!
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Sioni Sais
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Go for it Loveheart!
![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif) MT, TME and everyone.
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Pretty Butterfly
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If one more well-meaning person tells me that "it wasn't meant to be" I'm going to hit something. Or cry. Oh wait, I've already done that.
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Uncle Pete
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quote:
Originally posted by prettybutterfly:
If one more well-meaning person tells me that "it wasn't meant to be" I'm going to hit something. Or cry. Oh wait, I've already done that.
People who already have employment are really good with that phrase, aren't they?
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Loveheart
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quote:
Originally posted by prettybutterfly:
If one more well-meaning person tells me that "it wasn't meant to be" I'm going to hit something. Or cry. Oh wait, I've already done that.
Snap.
Heard today that I didn't get the job.
Am now dreading calling my mother as she is likely to say something like "it wasn't meant to be". ARGH.
Am feeling low and despondent. PLEASE no-one say "at least you got an interview". Or I'll scream! ![[Help]](graemlins/help.gif)
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Jack the Lass
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Originally posted by Loveheart:
quote:
Originally posted by prettybutterfly:
If one more well-meaning person tells me that "it wasn't meant to be" I'm going to hit something. Or cry. Oh wait, I've already done that.
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PLEASE no-one say "at least you got an interview". Or I'll scream!
Is blowing a raspberry at them an acceptable alternative? ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
TME didn't even hear back from the last interview - that's happened a few times and it really annoys me, it's so bloody rude. He was massively overqualified for it so not getting it wasn't a surprise or (apart from the lack of money) a huge disappointment, but there's no excuse to just not bother to contact interviewees afterwards. Grrrr. Any prayers for other job opportunities to come up for him would be great.
I still don't know when my new job starts. The references are in, and I've been cleared by occupaional health, I just have to wait for the criminal record checking, so who knows how long that will be. On the one hand I could do with a few more weeks to get as much of my thesis written as I can, but on the other hand from the money perspective I could really do with starting, like, yesterday.
Anyway. Good luck/commiserations/sympathy/no platitudes for all those hunting for work still. And the odd one of these too:
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Pretty Butterfly
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Well I haven't heard back from the interview, so I'm guessing that's a no.
I have got another interview, also in London, part time (30 hours), but that's not until the end of October.
I hate hate hate being unemployed.
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Pretty Butterfly
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And when I started writing a statment for another application at ten past nine this morning, the vacancy was open. Having just gone to submit my application now, it's closed.
Bastards.
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Loveheart
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Pretty Butterfly. I hate being unemployed too. And Job seekers allowance ran out last week, so I am even poorer and unemployed ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
Maybe phone them and ask if you can still submit it? Its only a few hours late...
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Pretty Butterfly
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It was one of those "will close when sufficient vacancies recieved" ones. It just sucks that it closed in the two hours between me writing the statement and me going to submit the statement. It's all done on a computer system, and to let me apply now they'd have to actually readvertise the job, which 'aint gonna happen.
I just heard back from the other interview as well, I didn't get it. But then I'd figured that out already from the lack of response.
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Loveheart
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Thats a bummer ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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mousethief
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Had a successful phone interview yesterday, with live interview to come at time TBD later this week. Job sounds like a perfect fit, just the sort of thing I was hoping to move into after my old job.
[ 20. October 2009, 19:00: Message edited by: mousethief ]
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Uncle Pete
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Best wishes with that, Mousethief!
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Huia
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for all posting on this thread.
I'll probably be joining you in the not too distant future. The platitude I used to hate was
"something will turn up."
And I think there is a special part of hell reserved for those who don't contact unsucccessful applicants,
Huia
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Loveheart
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Still nothing in the pipeline for me... although my vicar has been keeping me very busy - for example today I was crucifer and reader at a funeral, followed by my writing an article for the village magazine for which the deadline was today!
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mousethief
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Prayers for all.
My interview is tomorrow at 1pm (about 17.5 hours from now). My contact person said expect it to take about 3 hours!!! I'm not sure I have enough viscera to allow them to eviscerate me for that long!
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Pretty Butterfly
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Good luck with your interview tomorrow mousetheif.
I've had some more interviews since I last posted. One went really well and I thought I might get it but they picked someone else. Apparently it was a close thing.
I had an interview monday and one yesterday too. I've got another one coming up tomorrow. Monday's didn't go too well, I didn't like the people interviewing me and I don't care if I don't get the job (if they can't be friendly at the interview, what are they going to be like as full time bosses?).
Yesterday's wasn't bad though, I might have a chance there. I hope so - I've spent 18 hours on public transport in the last 2 days.
In the meantime, I've done temping as a waitress. Minimum wage, no tips. But it's something I guess. At least I'm now old enough to qualify for the "grown up" minimum wage.
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neandergirl
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Fingers crossed for all those still looking.
Good luck Mousethief!
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We come from love, we return to love, and all around is love.
Lord, ease our burdens, give us peace and enable us to do your work. Tree Bee
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Malin
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Well Malinette and I went to the jobcentre this morning and signed on. I've just finished my year maternity leave and my only choice was to return FT to a job an hour commute away or to leave. I'm hoping to find a PT job nearer to home and then need to organise childcare to cover it!
I'm glad I get 13 weeks to look for my ideal salary/role/hours before I need to start being less fussy. I need enough pay to cover my childcare costs and we'll need a second car too.
Hope all your interviews go well
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Sioni Sais
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For job seekers everywhere, keep us updated.
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Pretty Butterfly
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I got a job!
I'm so relieved, I couldn't stop grinning like an idiot when I found out earlier today.
For me, it was sixth interview lucky.
I won't be able to start for a while because I have to be CRB checked first and what with the postal strike and all that could take a while. I just hope it doesn't all fall through - offer is subject to references, CRB check and getting past occupational health (which shouldn't be problematic but I do have some minor health problems).
for all those still looking
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Loveheart
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Well done
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mousethief
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Well, the interview went okay, so we'll see how it turns out.
Meanwhile I have another phone interview next Tuesday at 2pm.
Congratulations, Pretty Butterfly! YAYAYAYAYAY!
And for everybody else
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Geneviève
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Oh, fabulous and well done, PrettyButterFly
Rooting for you, MT!
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Wesley J
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Pretty Butterfly
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I am in no way complaining as having two job offers is infinitely better than having none, but I'm now in a quandry. Three months of unemployment and two offers in as many days. Gah.
Any news yet, MT?
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mousethief
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Nothing yet. Not expecting to hear until later in the week.
PB: Pick the one where the people seemed the most work-with-able.
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neandergirl
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What a wonderful problem to have Pretty Butterfly! So very pleased for you!
Fingers still crossed for mousethief and everyone else in the search.
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Lord, ease our burdens, give us peace and enable us to do your work. Tree Bee
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Telepath
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Praying through, guys.
Already whinged on prayer thread but may I reiterate: WHINGE.
A plague upon those responsible, perhaps in the form of a colossal case of the runs. Ideally, while they're in a meeting. Ideally, while they're speaking in front of 100 really influential people. Ideally... well you get my drift.
And after that we can talk about smiting them.
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neandergirl
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Fingers crossed for each of you.
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We come from love, we return to love, and all around is love.
Lord, ease our burdens, give us peace and enable us to do your work. Tree Bee
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Telepath
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Okay... been reading Romans... not allowed to pray the runs upon mine enemies nor to request that they get smote.
Therefore, O Lord, please bless my adversary, perhaps with the gift of humility and honest self-reflection. (But please don't bother me with those things. They won't help.)
Please O Lord bless me with the gift of diplomacy, for as anodyne as I strive to make my feedback, I can be certain that mine enemy will read it as pure vitriol unless miraculous abilities are bestowed upon me.
O Lord, make me a channel of your peace, and I don't kid myself that that would be anything less than a miracle either.
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Dear Lord, please cushion that wall for Telepath. K tx, Amen.
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With Canadian permanent residency in the bag, I'm now able to apply for anything and everything. Though I'm focused on Adult Ed posts.
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mousethief
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I got an email telling me a programmer from a certain HMO will be calling me soon for a phone screen. Let us hope that leads to an interview and then....
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Here's hoping it goes well for you, Mousethief.
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Good luck, mousethief.
I did wonder if the last job hope had happened when I realised how many snowflakes you'd produced recently. I hope this one works out.
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Gosh, this went a long way between posts.
So, me about a 250 other people in our organization are all sharpening our resumes because 1/3 of us are not going to be at this organization come August.
About to start on mine....oh this is going to be painful.
Of course, like doctors, we have no idea how to help ourselves much.
Anybody know any good books for social work type professionals about taking care of themselves in times of crisis?
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la vie en rouge
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Hi all
I don't know if I exactly count as a jobseeker as such, but I do want a better job than I have now. So I am putting myself on the market.
The background (sorry if it's a bit long, but I will get round in the end to my question to the panel):
I work as a legal secretary in a magic circle law firm. When I arrived I was put on a pretty low salary because I didn't have any experience. I have now been working there for two and half years. Last year I was given a minimal pay rise and a bonus. In the meantime, the economy's gone into meltdown and lots of people have left the firm and not been replaced. Consequently those of us who are left get to pick up all their work - the normal lawyers / secretary ratio ought to be about 3, depending on how demanding they are. I currently have 4, which is going up to 5 at the end of the month when another one comes back from secondment. In addition, any time someone is sick or on holidays we have to pick up their work. The other day I was supposed to be working for 7 people (fortunately for me, two were in a meeting and one was off sick, but even so….)
In exchange for my flexibility and commitment, the firm thanked me this January by giving me…Sweet Fanny Adams. No payrise, no bonus, not a cent. In addition, this decision was announced by email. Dear Mr Managing Partner, if you want to do a thing like that, at least have the guts to tell us to our faces ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif) And the HR's attitude that we should behave like we're grateful to be working there and getting treated like crap isn't doing anything for my mood (or anyone's mood, to be truthful)… Consequently I am stony-broke and in real terms earning something like 10 or 15% less than when I arrived, and 40% less than the going rate for an English mother-tongue secretary with a couple of years experience. All this is to say that I am now a) furious and b) seeking alternative employment.
A lady in my church is also a legal secretary who recently started working for a new (i.e. recently created) firm. They are looking for an EMT secretary and I shall be sending her my CV later in the day. If they make me an offer, I don't know if I'd definitely take it, because I would have something with which to enter into negociations with the HR here… but if they don't offer me a substantial raise, I shall bugger off elsewhere.
So to finally get round to my question: I am expecting to be asked why I want to leave my current job. ISTM that if I tell them what I just told you I am going to make myself look like a troublemaker. What would be a better answer than "because my current employer treats me like crap / stabbed me in the back and I hate them and want them to die in horrible agony with a red-hot poker up their bottom"?
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Uncle Pete
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My present employer and I do not see eye-to-eye on workloads and remuneration
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Eutychus
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[to la vie en rouge, évidemment]
Sorry to hear of your woes.
Unless your contract spells it out as a requirement, I see no reason why you should need to supply your current employer with details of the reasons for your prospective departure, and I would be very careful about doing so in order to avoid them finding grounds for dismissal or other reasons to restrict your entitlements on departure further than necessary. You should probably also check your contract for what obligations you have on resignation. Ending contracts in France can be a nightmare.
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E, she's not asking about telling her current employer, she's asking what she should say when interviewing with a possible new employer and they want to know why she is leaving her current job.
You know, the "I see you are currently employed, and considering the present high unemployment rate, we are wondering why you are interested in our [probably same-level or even perhaps lower-level] position?" question.
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The tactful and diplomatic answer is that you have had a couple of years experience in this established company and have not seen any opportunities to progress where you are. You are hoping to buid a career in this field, so you are moving on to give yourself a chance at additional experience and hopefully a job with chances for promotion and career development in a new up and coming firm.
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Eutychus
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<note to self to engage brain before posting>
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Auntie Doris
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Well this is the first time I have posted on this thread. I have had a rather nice few weeks without a job after moving up to Yorkshire to be with The Mister. I am now job hunting and have an interview tomorrow. I am hoping against hopes that I get it because it would be perfect for my needs!!
Auntie Doris x
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Sandemaniac
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Hope you got it, Auntie Doris!
I'm going to try not to ramble inchoately (chance would be a fine thing). I've effectively been a lab technician for fifteen years now and I've reached a fairly provileged salary for the position simply by dint of being here for a very long time.
However my current conract expires in 11 months and I really don't want to have to rely on a grant being renewed to get another contract - besides, I don't want to carry on working in this lab. However I've realised that I have no real interest in the science (in any of the labs I've been in, in fact), and there's no product, no sense of achievement to give me any buzz. Basically, I feel like I'm going through the motions every day - and have felt like that for years now.
Trouble is I haven't a clue what else I could do. I could try to get another post within the University, which would suit me in many ways, but staying here for so long has effectively made me too expensive to get a similar job outside the University - so if I do stay I will be painting myself tighter and tighter into my corner. Any move upward from here will be the Peter Principle in operation, as I have neither the desire nor the ability to manage.
And in the midst of all this we're looking at houses... ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) ![[Tear]](graemlins/tear.gif)
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Auntie Doris
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quote:
Originally posted by Sandemaniac:
Hope you got it, Auntie Doris!
I got it!! Didn't expect to hear from them until tomorrow so I am very excited!!!
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