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Thread: Purgatory: Whats wrong with porn?
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Zappa
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Originally posted by ReginaShoe:
<snip> When it comes to what my own children see, I would be much more disturbed by them seeing something at a PG-13 level of violence than, say, a topless woman or a very passionate kiss.
As a wee tangent, why do passionate kissses on celluloid/digital whatever it is these days have to sound like a couple of randy eels bonking an icecream in a vacuum cleaner tube?
I have kissed once or twice in my life and it sure couldn't be heard like that.
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[ 27. February 2006, 03:47: Message edited by: Zappa ]
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Duudical
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I believe that God created us to be sexual beings. That even that need for intimacy was a part of His image that He breathed into man and woman. And like so much of who we are it was meant to reflect God. God isn't a prude. He calls sex a good thing, and even encourages us to go for it in places like 1 Cor. 7. Adam and Eve were "naked and unashamed" and it wasn't because they innocently didn't think about each other in that way if you know what I mean. I think it was because their expression of sex was a reflection of God's spiritual intimacy with them. When I think of porn, it doesn't reflect God's nature to me. It is the equivalent of me sleeping around with tons of gods - stuff that He clearly wasn't down with if you read Isaiah and Ezekiel and Jeremiah and Hosea and such...Porn certainly can damage people and relationships - but those are choices and consequences that God allows us to make and we have to deal wiht. I think the worse offense is that it inaccurately portrays God as someone who isn't devoted and committed and intimate with you in a very real way.
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universalist
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The first time i viewed porn was one day when i observed my handsome, athletic body in our bedroom full-length mirror. I was immediately aroused, then felt guilty and shamed as harsh, accusing, parental images from the official church began to flood my mind...
In recent years, though, I've learned about what St. Paul meant when he spoke of the dangers of Christians being "under the law". When we are under the law, this incites sin within us and we end up unable to obey (keep the law).
The church, beginning in about the 5th century began to formulate doctrines that made sex "bad" except only for pro-creation. Women began to be discounted, celibacy and the un-married life became the ideal. Meanwhile, the Irish church would have none of it, as Irish monks and nuns lived together and copulated like rabbits. Women were equals, were priests and bishops, and so on.
In the end, the greater church won out, Ireland conformed, and today we have shame tainting sex unconsciously in our minds. Maybe it's a matter of "balance" (an attribute of God). Sex used in moderation is probably the ideal, along with the use of any kind of erotica...
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Jerry Boam
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Originally posted by Duudical:
It is the equivalent of me sleeping around with tons of gods.
How so?
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Originally posted by Duudical:
I think the worse offense is that it inaccurately portrays God as someone who isn't devoted and committed and intimate with you in a very real way.
I don't follow this at all!
While I'm sure I wouldn't qualify as an expert on Porn, I thought I had seen enough to have a fair idea of what it was about... Portrayal of God had was not a feature of the Porn I knew... Can you explain this a bit?
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Duudical
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When Paul discusses in Ephesians 5:22-33 he speaks of marriage - a committed monogamous relationship - as a symbol of Christ and His Church. Intimacy in the physical sense is included in the picture. Somehow sex became some kind of dirty act for the Church, which clearly isn't taught in the Bible. But going the to the other extreme as Porn does - equally ruins the picture in my mind.
I'm not saying Porn portrays God...I am saying it portrays sex, which I believe to be a physical representation of part of God's character. The way that Christ wants to know those that follow Him. Even that word know (the Greek word ginosko) is the same word used by the Jews for sex - "know in the Biblical sense" we would say. On a spiritual level God wants to know us completely. That is why marriage is the relationship set aside. Not because of any rule or law...but because any other envirionment blows God's picture to pieces and it no longer works.
As porn portrays sex with anyone and everyone in any relationship...sex ceases to be an accurate depiction of God's for us to know Him completely.
I probably still suck at voicing this so sorry if it makes no sense.
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ChastMastr
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Originally posted by Duudical:
As porn portrays sex with anyone and everyone in any relationship...sex ceases to be an accurate depiction of God's for us to know Him completely.
... actually while I agree about sex having a lot of mystical symbolism, one could argue that since God loves us all and wants all of us to know Him... ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
Not that I am arguing that, mind you, but one could make that counter-argument in this specific case.
I will stop before I get really silly. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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