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Nunc Dimittis
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courtesy, Steve, courtesy.

Ok then. How Anglican are you? [Big Grin]

Do you reckon we should devise some sort of scale of "Anglican-ness"? Maybe not. Too many bun fights. It's such a broad term to encompass a broad range of opinions...

Well if we DID, we should divide it up into the three traditional parts of the Anglican church: Evangelical/Puritan (in the technical, 16thC sense - Evangelicals are to some extent their inheritors), Catholic, and Liberal.

Within each scale you have to what extent each wing aligns itself/identifies itself with the "standards": the Book of Common Prayer (let's use the 1662), the Creed, and Articles of Religion. At the bottom you have those that are very close to the BCP etc. And at the top of each scale you have those who are respectively: Off-the-deep-end-almost-presbyterians-who-want-to-bring-back-the-fights-of-the-16thC like the Sydney lot (*hucks and spits*); Anglicans who are Roman in all but name (Tridentine Riters etc); and Anglicans who are so liberal as to be Unitarian or even, agnostic.

I don't think there is such a thing as "true Anglicanism in its purest form". Nor has there ever been such a thing. Not when you have such a range to choose from... And if you're like Edward, you might fit on several scales all at once... [Wink] [Big Grin]

What does it mean to be Anglican? What is Anglicanism anyhow? Not interms of how it is constituted, but what makes it what it is?

Actually Steve, jokes and flippancy aside, I do think there is such a thing as being "un-Anglican", in a technical sense... And that would be if a group were trying to get rid of the "standards"...

The Sydney lot, in my opinion are. Because it's not just the lay-presidency thing, it's their whole attitude to the church too, which seeks to undermine those things which make them Anglicans... Think the rower who is drilling a hole in the boat he is supposed to be rowing...

I don't know what sort of evangelical you are, and it doesn't matter to me where you fit on the spectrum, though I have to say that you feeling upset at being called "un-Anglican" shows me that you want to be Anglican, and seen as such! I don't know to what extent the attitudes of the Sydney Evangelicals are prevalent in the UK (I shudder at the thought they should be there at all). I honestly think though that Sydney is pulling/pushing very hard on the very flexible boundaries/edges of what constitutes Anglicanism...

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Wood
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quote:
Originally posted by Nunc Dimittis:
I don't know what sort of evangelical you are, and it doesn't matter to me where you fit on the spectrum, though I have to say that you feeling upset at being called "un-Anglican" shows me that you want to be Anglican, and seen as such! I don't know to what extent the attitudes of the Sydney Evangelicals are prevalent in the UK (I shudder at the thought they should be there at all). I honestly think though that Sydney is pulling/pushing very hard on the very flexible boundaries/edges of what constitutes Anglicanism...

FYI, the Sydney lot's views are quite easy to find among evangelicals in the UK, I am sorry to say, but not among Anglicans. HTB and its offshoots is about as close as British Anglicanism gets, quite frankly, but whatever you think of it, it doesn't match the extreme nature of ++Jensen and his people.

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Wood
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quote:
Originally posted by The Coot:
[Sunny] Wood said nice things about me!

But I'm not actually anglocatholic.

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[Also. I'm not godly. And um. Usually I'm a happy lucky decent guy, but um. After hanging around Northbridge today, 'decent' has to come off the list too]

Um, OK. But we like you anyway. Can I extend my other compliments to Nunc and Dyfrig istead, then? [Big Grin]

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Nunc - thank you. For correcting my typing. As I have argued elsewhere, my spelling is perfect, but my typing sometimes lets me down ...

Yes I agree there is something which is un-anglican. But to define what it is would be very difficult. I don't know the Sidney evangelicals as such ( although I think I have come in contact with their teaching ), but I do know that the extremist views are present within British evangelicalism. But I am not extremist.

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quote:
no one PM's me, not even when I got 1000 posts.
hey pyx_e thats not fair... i pm you fairly frequently...

(i want a pouting smilie to insert here. i really, really want a pouting smilie)

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Pyx_e

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[Roll Eyes] the four people who have pmed me in the last year have all now pmed or posted here telling me what a pratt I am [Roll Eyes] I can't win.

[Big Grin] P

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Wood
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Apart from me, Pyx_e, that is.

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quote:
Originally posted by Pyx_e:
[Roll Eyes] the four people who have pmed me in the last year have all now pmed or posted here telling me what a pratt I am [Roll Eyes] I can't win.

[Big Grin] P

But I sent you a PM too Pyx_e. [Big Grin] And we agreed on something. [Eek!] A sign of forthcoming something or other surely [Wink]

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Pyx_e

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SC, I am reasonably sure that I do not have the same degree of respect that you accord Wood but a couple of things, if I may.

Firstly, You have said a few things on board that have made me raise an eyebrow. I am sure this is not news to you. You have represented (on board, and I stress on board because shipboard life is NOT real life, after over two years on board I think I am just getting to know a few shipmates of the hundreds I have conversed with) many of the things I dislike about the C of E.

Now before you get upset with me let me stress I do not think I have got it right my problem is dealing with the fact that none of have got it right. I think I am trying to say is that it is not about who has it right and who has it wrong but knowing that most of us are trying to follow His word and Love the Lord our God and our nieghbour as our self in many and varied ways. So whilst I may not like some of what you say I have to listen and even (God forbid) learn.

Secondly we are all changing (these boards have taught me much). I have seen you, through your posts, really struggle with changes in your life, your role on board, your views on certain issues, your views about certain shipmates and most importantly (for this thread), your dealing with the f**king awful selection process (sometimes dealing with it badly but hey it is often nasty and hard to deal with). Now I do not know you ITRW but it seems your struggles with the defining of and being a minister are valid even if at times they have really threatened where I am and, at times your struggle to come to terms often seems to be have just made you angry and even bitter with the C of E.

But it is always difficult to see someone grieve.

Lastly you said :"I started this thread because I wanted to leave the ship. Some part of me had had enough.” I for one am not willing to let this pass without some word of encouragement to you. Please don’t leave. (not good enough?)

OK. Even if at times I have strongly disagreed with you and been maybe even nasty I still like you or more accurately value what you bring to our fellowship. Hey Erin thinks I called her unChristian (when in fact I only suggested some ideas that were floating around may be unChristian [Wink] ) and we get on (sort of [Big Grin] , she did PM me when she said she would [Not worthy!] ). Thank God we are all not the same. You may think all sorts of people have said bad things about you and hey guess what ,they have. But that is OK we can disagree and really piss each other off and if we are part of the ship of Fools then we can get over it.

If we want to.

I ask you to want to get over it, you’re (mostly, nearly, sometimes [Big Grin] ) a really good guy and it is just about time to let go of some past hurts.

Everything will be OK

P

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Ultraspike

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quote:
Originally posted by Erin:
Does this mean that you got a whiny, self-indulgent private message, too? Or was I the only lucky one?

Was it as whiny and self-indulgent as SC's OP?

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[ 04. October 2002, 19:58: Message edited by: Nightlamp ]

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Erin
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Well, you know Fr Cosmo, might as well be hung for a sheep as for a lamb, right? It rivalled the mass e-mailing we all received of "The Lottery" back when we kicked Joanne off the boards.

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quote:
Originally posted by Erin:
Well, you know Fr Cosmo, might as well be hung for a sheep as for a lamb, right?

[Eek!] Fr. Cosmo's hung like a sheep?? [Eek!]

[Ultra confused] Stop the presses!! [Ultra confused]

... oh. I get it now. My mistake. [Embarrassed]

Never mind! [Sunny]

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Warden's Wand
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ChastMastr: It's different to being hung like a horse! [Snigger]
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Rossweisse

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quote:
Originally posted by Pyx_e:
no one PM's me, not even when I got 1000 posts. (bastards) [Waterworks]

I PM'd you. I thought it a was a pleasant exchange, too.

[Confused]

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Pyx_e

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OK OK I admit I was being melodramatic. Sheesh.

P

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Pyx_e

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Is hung like einstien and has the brains of a horse, [Roll Eyes]

P

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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Erin:
Well, you know Fr Cosmo, might as well be hung for a sheep as for a lamb, right? It rivalled the mass e-mailing we all received of "The Lottery" back when we kicked Joanne off the boards.

I know I'm thick but I thought a Private Message was supposed to erm... private. Never mind.

What I said in the message was that after being away on holiday for a while I was a bit peeved to be described as 'sulking in a corner' and that I had felt that my posts (ohGod the paranoia was kicking in big time) seemed to be picked upon quite quickly for sarcastic comments by others. All this I did 'privately' to one of the people who had made such a comment rather than provoke some kind of public irritation. Silly me for thinking that's as far as it would go.

The reply was, well... let's not dwell on the reply. I try not to use the word 'shit' too often in correspondance even with my friends.

To get back to the OP I would repeat again to SC that I, at least, have never described you as 'anti-anglican'. I have indeed questioned why you are an Anglican considering some of the views you have put across and have thought that you might, with those views, be more at home in another denomination. But I have never described you as anti-Anglican. I hope (genuinely) that you resolve your obvious faith and belonging difficulties and that you find yourself in the church that you feel the most at ease with.

The thing is that Anglo-Catholics get most het up, not on tat (although that pervades our very beings and provides so much fun and opportunities of mutual piss-taking), but doctrine and history and ecclesiology. We don't claim omniscience or infallibilty (or Blessed Pio Nono and his lawful successors has that) but we do get roused by those who question the very core of Anglican sacramental and ecclesiological thought. Thus when the Arch-Jensen of Sydeny gets going we get riled as we believe him to be a Congregationalist Presbyterian masquerading as an Anglican. That's why when others put forward arguments which come close to his own (as some of SC's have, on occasion) then we respond. It doesn't mean we think you are a dickhead or a jerk or even, gasp, a moron. It just means we are fighting for what we think we are about as Anglicans at a time when that seems to be under serious threat.

I hope that makes some sort of sense. The only good movable feast I know (the saddle of mutton trolley at Simpson's) was in good form tonight.

The Self-Indulgent, Whining, Patronising, Public-school educated, Moron, (did I miss one?),

Cosmo

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Erin
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So, you raving hypocrite, explain why you didn't whine at Pyx_e for saying it FIRST.

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Erin
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Oh yeah...

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo:
I know I'm thick but I thought a Private Message was supposed to erm... private. Never mind.

You lost this moral high ground when you ran whining to someone else and quoted the entire text of MINE.

HYPOCRITE.

[ 05. October 2002, 00:06: Message edited by: Erin ]

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Cosmo
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Because I didn't see it that's why. Indeed I still haven't seen it (perhaps I haven't read some posts properly) but I did see you write something to the effect of 'sulking in a corner' and I so I wrote to you in addition to a couple of other points which I mentioned above (and which were dealt with in that PM so I hope you don't feel the need to bring it up all over again in public). That's all.

I don't think that makes me a 'raving hypocrite'. Maybe a blind skim-reader but not a raving hypocrite.

Cosmo

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Cosmo
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I did indeed write to Simon and quote some of your PM as I felt it was quiteout of proportion to the questions I had raised. However at no time did put any of this on the open boards and I don't understand why you feel it was OK to do so in the first place.

Cosmo

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Erin
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You have gone beyond hypocrite into bold-faced LIAR. Piss off, and don't you EVER PM or e-mail me again.

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quote:
Originally posted by Tubbs:
I bet you're gonna wish you'd never said that once we fill your inbox full of congratulatory messages [Snigger] [Devil]
Tubbs

This is the royal 'we', presumably?

I have no intention of putting anything in pyx_e's inbox, thank you very much. [Ultra confused]

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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Erin:
You have gone beyond hypocrite into bold-faced LIAR. Piss off, and don't you EVER PM or e-mail me again.

Please don't call me a liar. I did indeed send some of your reply in my PM to Simon and questioned its tone and content. As you have already brought this up this evening it's obvious you know this, presumably from Simon. If you would like I can put the whole of our discussion on the open boards (subject to his agreement of course) and prove it. So I don't know where the liar bit comes.

Knowing that a PM to you is obviously fair game to be referred to on the open boards I shall gladly not PM you again. However I resent the accusation of lying and request either an explanation of your remark or an apology (although I shan't live in hope of getting either).

Cosmo

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Erin
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If you honestly believe that what you've posted here is the truth, I have been sorely mistaken about you. I always thought you were a jackass, now it appears you are far less intelligent than I thought.

The outright lie: you quoted my ENTIRE PM, not just "some". That means that you don't regard it as a private conversation, not if you feel at liberty to send it on because you are a whining tattletale, so why the fuck should I?

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Cosmo
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I did miss out a couple of sentences from it you know (or certainly tried to in any case, I'm not hugely proficient in this stuff). And I hardly think sending a message to the founder of this board and taking issue with the extraordinarily rude and dismissive content of one the 'senior' members of the Ship towards another member is quite the same as slagging off that person and bitching about the content of their PM's on the open boards.

Now, can we leave this please. It has nothing to do with the OP and I'm going to bed.

Cosmo

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I would gladly leave it if you would stop playing martyr about all this. Believe me, dealing with you is about 2342374752 on my list of things I really want to do before I die.

However, since you insist on perpetuating the fallacy that you've been wronged here, and have never done anything to provoke it, I must decline your offer to leave it.

You COULD always wander back to the ghetto. Then you would never have to deal with unpleasant concepts such as "truth" and "consequences of my actions".

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Hello Wood, Just to let you know I do read your posts (even if it takes me several days to get around to it - I've only just discovered this thread exists) [Roll Eyes]

Chorister is an Anglican - by birth, by baptism and confirmation, and also by trying out all the others in order to satisfy myself that I really am an Anglican by choice as well as by accident.

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Erin :hope you realise just how aggressive and rude you appear on this thread.
[Frown]

This may be Hell, but can't you deal with your personal grievances in private?

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The kind of so called anglicans who really get on my wick are those who use the Roman Missal. This means they are embarrassed about bein anglican well they should get the fuck out and not be so bloody hypocritical.

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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Nightlamp:
The kind of so called anglicans who really get on my wick are those who use the Roman Missal. This means they are embarrassed about bein anglican well they should get the fuck out and not be so bloody hypocritical.

I quite agree. Nasty little book. The English Missal is quite another kettle of tat tho'.

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Nightlamp
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by English Missal do you mean common worship? or do you mean something produced by another church?

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Nightlamp
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Ah by English Missal you mean the prayer book produce by the Church of Rome. You aren't very proud to be Anglican are you?

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Chorister

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Being proud to be Anglican presumably means proud of belonging to a church which embraces Anglo-catholics, Angligelicals, FiFs, Liberals and all sorts of other weirdos. One of its strengths is its very inclusivity. To outsiders that probably looks like one of its weaknesses too, but what the hey!

I have just had a trawl through the Mystery Worship reports on Anglican churches and continue to be amazed at the diversity. Apparently my church is due to be on there soon and will probably be boringly somewhere in the middle of the continuum. [Razz]

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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Nightlamp:
Ah by English Missal you mean the prayer book produce by the Church of Rome. You aren't very proud to be Anglican are you?

Er, no. By The English Missal I mean the missal put together by Fr Kenrick, the Anglican parish priest of Holy Trinity, Hoxton. It combines the best of Rome with the best of Anglicanism and was much in use in A/C parishes from the 1920's to the 1960's. With the liturgical revisionisms of both Churches it has become sadly neglected of late although a few places still use it.

If you think I'm not proud to be Anglican then look at Corpus Cani's recent report of Hereford Cathedral and Jacobite's report on St Mary's Bourne St. Who could fail to be proud to be priest in a Church that manages to combine so much!

Cosmo

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WHEN will people learn that when talking about a period of time, for example the nineteen-sixties, the correct notation is 1960s NOT 1960's. 1960's imply's something belonging to 1960, for example, "The furore of 1960's Cold War," or "1960's Summer Fashions." On the other hand you have the "Summer Fashions of the 1960s."

Do I make myself clear?

Think, use of simple plurals and 's of belonging... Sheesh [Roll Eyes] .

[Your complaints about poor English would be more impressive you if you could spell correctly.]

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Rossweisse

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quote:
Originally posted by Chorister:
Chorister is an Anglican - by birth, by baptism and confirmation, and also by trying out all the others in order to satisfy myself that I really am an Anglican by choice as well as by accident.

Brava, brava! (Et moi aussi!)

[Angel]

Rossweisse // in glorious C major

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Rossweisse

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Originally posted by Nunc Dimittis:
...Do I make myself clear? ...

Nunc, if you would care to start a crusade for the proper use of apostrophes, I would proudly join your vanguard.

Rossweisse // Apostrophe Watch

[Flaming]

[How about doing typo watch first?]

[ 05. October 2002, 15:26: Message edited by: Nightlamp ]

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Wood
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The use of the grocer's apostrophe is one of the major causes of the Downfall of Western Civilisation As We Know It.

I am behind Nunc and Rossweisse on this.

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Rossweisse

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Rossweisse // Apostrophe Watch

[How about doing typo watch first?]

[ 05. October 2002, 15:26: Message edited by: Nightlamp ]

Honestly, you're as bad as the copy desk. My consctruction of "ApostropheWatch" was DELIBERATE -- a satire on the fad for running words together that gave us such abominations as CitiBank and StarWatch.

Fie!

Rossweisse // another creative impulse stifled

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Rossweisse

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quote:
Originally posted by Rossweisse:
...consctruction...

Now, THAT'S a typo!

[Wink]

Rossweisse // are we off-topic yet?

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Wood
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Originally posted by Rossweisse:


Rossweisse // are we off-topic yet?

Hopefully.

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Laura
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quote:
Originally posted by Wood:
The use of the grocer's apostrophe is one of the major causes of the Downfall of Western Civilisation As We Know It.

I am behind Nunc and Rossweisse on this.

And I. All right-thinking people are justly appalled by the misuse of apostrophes. And some are doing something about it in Cornwall, where resides the Home for Abused Apostrophes .

I had the occasion to be in the N.Y. Presbyterian Hospital Pediatric emergency room think weekend (toddler with dislocated elbow [Waterworks] ) and observed that the cabinets were all carefully labeled, "Linen's" "Bandage's", etcetera. Very upsetting. They refused to give me any "tranquilizer's" for the upset that seeing this caused me.

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Rossweisse

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quote:
Originally posted by Wood:
...I am behind Nunc and Rossweisse on this.

"Onward, then, ye people,
Join our happy throng;
Blend with ours your voices
In the triumph song..."

Rossweisse // no surrender!

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Laura
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And also don't miss a site regarding my other pet peeve: The Gallery of "Misused" Quotation Marks.

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Rossweisse

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quote:
Originally posted by Laura:
...All right-thinking people are justly appalled by the misuse of apostrophes. ...

Thank you for that link; I know quite a few people who will enjoy it.

I constantly have the apostrophe discussion with my Junior Child, who writes things like "greeting's," but then turns it around for the possessive: "Eleanors." At least she has the excuse of being barely 9.

Rossweisse // (cue sound of maternal teeth, gnashing of same)

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Sarkycow
La belle Dame sans merci
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Toasting fork to hand

Mike, Mike, Mersey Mike,

You are quite right, this is one of the things Hell is for - dealing with personal grievances.

As you may well know, after someone has persistantly annoyed/upset/frustrated you for a period of time by what they say, you get so annoyed/upset/frustrated, that you can take it no longer. You can no longer bite back the comments, and swallow the bile that rises. You have a choice: attack them wherever they are posting, which is breaking several of the Commandments, or attack them in Hell, where they have a chance to stand up for themselves, and defend what they say. This gives the both of you a chance to clear some air, and provides a cathartic release for many others watching.

Hopefully, after letting off steam, you can go back to posting a lot more reasonably, without constantly sniping at someone because you have no other means of letting it out.

So pull your head out from up your sphincter, and stop interfering in this process.

Cordially,

Viki, hellhost

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Rossweisse

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quote:
Originally posted by Laura:
...don't miss a site regarding my other pet peeve...

Thank you for this, too, Laura.

My goodness -- it WAS worth getting up this morning.

Rossweisse // who notes, to get more on topic, that all versions of the Book of Common Prayer in my possession seem to be impeccable in their use of both apostrophes and quotation marks

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Moth

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quote:
Originally posted by Nunc Dimittis, (italics added by Moth):

WHEN will people learn that when talking about a period of time, for example the nineteen-sixties, the correct notation is 1960s NOT 1960's. 1960's imply's something belonging to 1960, for example, "The furore of 1960's Cold War," or "1960's Summer Fashions." On the other hand you have the "Summer Fashions of the 1960s."

Hoist on your own petard? [Disappointed]

(Oh, death, where is thy sting?)

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Yeah, Mike! From the ignorant bollocks you keep crusading on about evangelicalism/fundamentalism, you would be very well advised to pay attention to Ms. Cow.

Or you may well find yourself the subject of a Hell thread before very much longer.

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