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Hull Hound
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quote:
Originally posted by Mousethief:
There were posts about the religious history of the American nation? I must have missed those. All I have seen is slagging/whinging and defensive counter-attacks.

Can you point out exactly which posts you are looking at, HH?

Alexis

Mousethief can you point out where I said this?

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Hull Hound
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quote:
Originally posted by duchess:
quote:
Originally posted by Professor Yaffle:
One thread on the subject is mildly diverting as it provides the spectacle of Erin, ably assisted by Scot and Duchess bashing various whining Trots.

Three is overkill.

3 is overkill? You are smoking crack.

There are more than 3. We are just the ones who have the most spirit at the moment. The spirit of 76 (echo-echo-echo) [Sunny]

Whatever the market will tolerate
[Wink]

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Nunc Dimittis
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quote:
Originally posted by duchess:
At least we weren't started as a penal colony...
(ducking and running....)

Yeah, you would, wouldn't you duchess? If it's not that all liberals are hellbound because they are not biblical inerrantists*, it's that Aussies are somehow inferior or not entitled to opinions because we were a penal colony - a loooong time ago.

Like, hello! You have some serious waking up to do, woman. We have moved on from being a penal colony... I wonder that you are seemingly unable to move on from where you are.

*I can't believe you think the only liberal view of the Bible is that it's a bunch of fairy tales. Sounds like your mindset is still tied to your father... What a gross mischaracterisation and misunderstanding. Have you even read any liberal theology? Or any catholic theology for that matter. But then, as the Bible is the only thing sufficient, and your intellect is sufficient to interpret it, duchess, reading other theological perspectives is irrelevant... [Roll Eyes] News for you: it's time to grow up and loose the strings that tie you to Daddy or anyone else. Explore the world of ideas. Read... And be open to thinking about things.

Why do people prefer to walk through the world with blinkers on?

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duchess

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Nunc,

Wow! Much bigger reaction from Aussies over penal colony remark than Brits over Tea Party remark.

duchess takes notes...

Somebody didn't get her vegemite this morning. [Wink]


Pssst...if you re-read my posts...you'd see my dad is an errantist . He is also a big liberal like the majority of my family. He does not take the bible literally, like moi, the sole family inerrantist of this generations of [insert duchess's family surname here].

Psssst again...I have studied read up on the RCC enough to know why they think Peter was the first pope. "Upon this Rock, I build my church" and so forth...like the asking saints to pray for you, rather than pray to (as even some Catholics think). [Angel]

Believe it or not, you can still see the world through bibically coloured glasses.

[Happy]

[UBB code and an irritating spelling mistake corrected I'm English so I spell colour with a U]

[ 10 July 2002, 08:27: Message edited by: Nightlamp ]

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mousethief

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quote:
Originally posted by Hull Hound:
quote:
Originally posted by Mousethief:
There were posts about the religious history of the American nation? I must have missed those. All I have seen is slagging/whinging and defensive counter-attacks.

Can you point out exactly which posts you are looking at, HH?

Alexis

Mousethief can you point out where I said this?
Gladly. I will quote it in full.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Coot:
I'm sick to death of threads slagging off America and isn't it time they all got moved to dead horses?

You're only sensitive to what you don't want to hear.

America is a largely untapped source of comment on the Ship. people actually like talking about it because it is relevant. It has religious themes all through its history and culture and it has real power. The subject is no Dead Horse.

Pleasure to be of service.

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[ 10 July 2002, 08:41: Message edited by: Nightlamp ]

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Hull Hound
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Mousethief, I said "It has religious themes all through its history and culture and it has real power." Doesn't mean there are posts about it [Roll Eyes]

I'd like to think that all my thoughts and posts automatically generate comment but even I .. [Embarrassed]

Mousethief, I think you are out to misquote [Flaming]

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Here's my theory:

The English and Germans are from common stock.

Both of these countries have a superiority complex.

Most Americans are descended from either German or English stock.

I think therefore, that the American superiority complex is a genetic trait. Trouble is, the effect is doubled! [Big Grin]

This is true: In my promiscuous days, I once dated an American guy. He would only use American condoms, he did not trust British ones.

Christina

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Nunc Dimittis
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quote:
Originally posted by duchess:
Nunc,

Wow! Much bigger reaction from Aussies over penal colony remark than Brits over Tea Party remark.

duchess takes notes...

Somebody didn't get her vegemite this morning. [Wink]

Sounds like you enjoy doing this to wind people up duchess... "Oooooh let's make a sardonic smart-ass remark about some other nation and see what the reaction is!!" Frankly I just find this tasteless and sick.

What has vegemite got to do with anything?

quote:

Pssst...if you re-read my posts...you'd see my dad is an errantist . He is also a big liberal like the majority of my family. He does not take the bible literally, like moi, the sole family inerrantist of this generations of [insert duchess's family surname here].

And isn't little missy proud of it?! Oh gee! He's an errantist is he? Oh dear, why didn't I see that before? Or is that the whole reason I and a number of others got upset with you on the Headship thread in Purgatory? The fact you seem unable to distinguish between a Christian liberal (errantist) and an agnostic liberal errantist...

quote:

Psssst again...I have studied read up on the RCC enough to know why they think Peter was the first pope. "Upon this Rock, I build my church" and so forth...like the asking saints to pray for you, rather than pray to (as even some Catholics think). [Angel]

Well, at least you can recognise the truth from so many propagandist lies that some biblical inerrant churches promulgate about the RCC. (I would be interested to know what you have read, whether you have read anything from a Catholic perspective... etc)

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Believe it or not, you can still see the world through bibically coloured glasses.


Well, congratulations to you. Not everyone has the necessity to wear those particular glasses, clear glasses, or indeed any glasses. I guess it depends on what you need to see, doesn't it...

And I for one do not appreciate being pressured to wear your glasses. Keep them to yourself please, along with your self righteous and arrogant attitude.

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Originally posted by Nunc Dimittis:
Well, congratulations to you. Not everyone has the necessity to wear those particular glasses, clear glasses, or indeed any glasses. I guess it depends on what you need to see, doesn't it...

Nunc, that was completely uncalled for. I have to wear glasses and damned thick ones at that. The last thing I need is you or anyone else rubbing in the fact that you don't need to wear any at all. I really don't appreciate you trying to make me out as some sort of victim by pointing out how you think you are better than me. I think you should apologize immediately to all of the myopic people you so carelessly attacked.

scot

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quote:
Originally posted by Twilight:
Well, I was just quoting the TV show and I'm pretty sure they said "snotty"...
Sorry if the xenophobes of the board took offence at the bald faced nerve of a relatively new person just jumping in and saying something.

Twilight, (i'd have pm'd you, but you don't have the facility turned on) it was a joke. I was playing up to the Simpson's stereotype and being snooty/snotty in my reply.

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quote:
Originally posted by Scot:
Canada, however, will have to collectively stand before God and answer for Tom Green.


Don't blame him on all of us. There are only 3 parties responsible for him (leave the other 33 million of us out of it): Mr. & Mrs. Green for (you know), and Tom for being what he is.

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Nunc Dimittis
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Originally posted by Scot:
quote:
Originally posted by Nunc Dimittis:
Well, congratulations to you. Not everyone has the necessity to wear those particular glasses, clear glasses, or indeed any glasses. I guess it depends on what you need to see, doesn't it...

Nunc, that was completely uncalled for. I have to wear glasses and damned thick ones at that. The last thing I need is you or anyone else rubbing in the fact that you don't need to wear any at all. I really don't appreciate you trying to make me out as some sort of victim by pointing out how you think you are better than me. I think you should apologize immediately to all of the myopic people you so carelessly attacked.

scot

Scot, I don't know whether to laugh or to shout you down; whether you are showing the true inanity of literalism, or genuinely think I am attacking bespectacled persons (of which I am most definitely one)...

In fact the more I look at your post the funnier it is...

I am sorry your lenses are so thick. But you have to realise that the "victim" mentality in this case is an assumed one. You have the power to choose not to be a victim. And, of course those who don't wear glasses are better than you! How could you assume otherwise? [Wink] Myopic people... hmmm Sounds like a variation on the pigmy idea - where do the Myopic people fit in, and what jungle do they live in? [Big Grin]

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Um, I think Scot was taking the piss.

Wasn't he?

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Originally posted by Sharkshooter:

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Don't blame him on all of us. There are only 3 parties responsible for him (leave the other 33 million of us out of it): Mr. & Mrs. Green for (you know), and Tom for being what he is.
Don't try and wiggle out of it. What about Celine Dion? Or Bryan Adams?

OTOH you did give us Robertson Davies and Margaret Attwood, so you're completely beyond redemption.

[Big Grin]

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Aargh. Complete gibberish.

What I meant to say was "OTOH you did give us Margaret Attwood and Robertson Davies so you're NOT completely beyond redemption".

I can't believe I just suggested two of my favourite authors are the literary equivalent of Bryan Adams and Celine Dion. [Embarrassed]

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Canada also <pause - meant to be dramatic but is just silly> gave us William <another pause of the same kind> Shatner.

I have liked Canada very much when I've visited, but some Canadians ... sheesh!

Ruth
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duchess

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quote:
Originally posted by Nunc Dimittis:

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Sounds like you enjoy doing this to wind people up duchess... "Oooooh let's make a sardonic smart-ass remark about some other nation and see what the reaction is!!" Frankly I just find this tasteless and sick.
The only thing tasteless is vegemite. I can't understand how Aussies love it, but then I love peanut butter and many think that is a tasteless and sick in other parts of the world. Our beer here is tasteless and sick as well in America compared to anyone else's (we tend to water its alcoholic content down).
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What has vegemite got to do with anything?

Not much except you seemed so upset I thought it might be you were maybe skipping breakfast or something. I thought since you were Australian maybe you ate that for breakfast.


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Well, congratulations to you. Not everyone has the necessity to wear those particular glasses, clear glasses, or indeed any glasses. I guess it depends on what you need to see, doesn't it...
And I for one do not appreciate being pressured to wear your glasses. Keep them to yourself please, along with your self righteous and arrogant attitude.

I am not feeling the luv here...where is the luv?
BTW, I mostly wear contact lenses not glasses. I do however own a pair of righteous looking 70s styled sunglasses that most people do not appreciate nowadays. Thankfully, I march to the beat of my own drummer, not dictated by society.

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duchess

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quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
Canada also <pause - meant to be dramatic but is just silly> gave us William <another pause of the same kind> Shatner.

I have liked Canada very much when I've visited, but some Canadians ... sheesh!

Ruth
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William Shatner is one hot hunk of burning love, even nowadays. He may have made his other collegues miserable according to some stuff I have read but man does he have some heaping cups of charisma. [Heart]

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Wood
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quote:
Originally posted by duchess:
William Shatner is one hot hunk of burning love, even nowadays. He may have made his other collegues miserable according to some stuff I have read but man does he have some heaping cups of charisma. [Heart]

You're a sick, sick woman, and you should get professional help as soon as possible.

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mousethief

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The problem, HH, is that you went on to say that the subject was no dead horse -- implying fairly strongly that it was not a dead horse BECAUSE of all this history stuff. But a thread is a dead horse because of what is ACTUALLY IN it, not what COULD be in it. Thus you were implying quite clearly that there were posts about the history of American religion, or something of the sort, in this thread.

Sorry I didn't make this clearer. I realize some people have trouble with logical inference.

Reader Alexis

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Clyde
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Without drawing too much flack towards myself.
Would it help if we called in a Vet to determine,
whether in fact, a horse is dead or not.

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mousethief

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Whom do you suggest, Clyde?

Rdr Alexis

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Clyde
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No one in particular Alexis but they must be a qualified Vet, perhaps from one of those TV shows

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mousethief

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You mean like "All Creatures Great and Small"?

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quote:
Originally posted by Mousethief:
You mean like "All Creatures Great and Small"?

Oohh, yea, I read that when I was nine or ten. D'ya think the vet'll have to grease up an arm and reach up into the horse all the way to his shoulder? [Puke]

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quote:
Originally posted by duchess:
vegemite

Vegemite rocks, except that in Britain it's called Marmite and we thought of it first.

Irv.

[ubb sorted out]

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Alexis,
They also have some good Vets on the TV programme
'Animal Hospital' if you get stuck.
Regards

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duchess

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Wow, I did not know that!

I actually tasted vegemite when an Aussie in my highschool had us all try it. Memory stuck with me forever.

Ok, quiz game...somebody identify this lyric (song and band):

"Buying bread from a man in Brussels
He was six foot four and full of muscles
I said, "Do you speak-a my language?"
He just smiled and gave me a vegemite sandwich
And he said..."

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Alan Cresswell

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the song is Men at Work, Land Down Under. But surely pop quizzes are more Heavenly than Hellish??

oh, and I think you'll find vegemite and marmite are different things

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sharkshooter

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I think any word starting with "veg..." belongs in hell!

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duchess

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My bad...I just could not control the urge to do a quiz...and also to make sure that song got stuck in somebody's head besides mine.

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Alan Cresswell

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well, getting that song stuck in someones head is definitely Hellish [Devil]

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Rowen
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that song is one of our modern musical icons... by insulting it thusly, thousands of Australians will rise up and throw vegemited and buttered toast at you, especially when you are wearing something nice and clean.
And I will be amongst them, so there!

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mousethief

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This habit explains why Australians have long given up wearing nice, clean clothes.

Alexis

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Here is a summary of my comments, since I was away all day:

  • Nunc, [Razz]
  • Wood, yes I was. Apparently I still need to get my tongue sharpened. Maybe tomorrow.
  • duchess, you are a cruel, cruel woman. It may take me weeks to get rid of that damn song.
  • Rowen, do whatever you want as long as you don't chunder anywhere near me.
scot

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Rowen
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Scot, you need to take more seriously your Christian duty to minister to the sick, even sick Australians. Surely, when I do throw up (chunder) near you, you will visit me? wipe my fevered brow? give me words of encouragement and hope? bring me a lovely present? make me chicken soup?
No?
tsk, tsk, tsk........

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Scot

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That depends on whether it happens because you "come from a land down under, where beer does flow..."

I better run, I better take cover.

scot

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Nanny Ogg

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quote:
Originally posted by Rowen:
by insulting it thusly, thousands of Australians will rise up and throw vegemited and buttered toast at you, especially when you are wearing something nice and clean...

Remind me to avoid going to Earls Court...

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The Mid

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quote:
Originally posted by duchess:
I thought since you were Australian maybe you ate that for breakfast.

What's that? A generalisation? I wonder if anyone else can appreciate the irony that if an Australian had generalised about America they would be flamed and stoned and....hang on, I wasn't going to post on this thread.

Just remember this duchess next time someone makes a generalisation about America....

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Scot

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Wow, Mid's offended by a comment about breakfast foods. I used to think the English (and the Welsh) were really thin-skinned, but now I see that you Aussies have them beat hands down.

Does it come from living in an unpopular hemisphere? Would it help if I told you I am a huge Steve Irwin fan?

scot

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Rowen
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I am afriad not, as he is unpopular here. We blame his personality on the more foreign members of his family, and the adulation of the media overseas.
Certainly, when he was a teen he was normal, as I knew him then...

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Scot

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Just trying to reach out a hand of reconciliation, and I knew that Paul Hogan was probably not the way to go. [Big Grin]

scot

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The Mid

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The point I was making was about generalisations. It seems that SOME Americans can generalise freely about whoever they want, but as soon as someone generalises about America, they come out with all guns blazing.

How about a bit of consistency people???

Incidentally, I like vegimite. It had nothing to do with the subject of the generalisation, just the geenralisation in particular.

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Rowen
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And, heck, I quite like Scot too... tho I like vegemite more..... [Big Grin] Especially on a fresh bread roll...... [Big Grin]

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Moo

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quote:
Originally posted by Rowen:
And, heck, I quite like Scot too... tho I like vegemite more..... [Big Grin] Especially on a fresh bread roll...... [Big Grin]

I think Scot on a fresh bread roll would leave something to be desired.

Moo

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Scot

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Mid, please try to get it straight - ALL Americans generalize freely about whoever we want. It's a God-given right.

Enjoy your vegemite.

scot

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Most Americans generalize because that is as specific as they can get. Only the intellectuals--mainly on the left--make distinctions and nuancees and so forth. For this they are called less American or "un-American." So I think a conservative American intellectual would be one who writes books full of generalizations.

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duchess

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quote:
Originally posted by Hercule:
Most Americans generalize because that is as specific as they can get. Only the intellectuals--mainly on the left--make distinctions and nuancees and so forth. For this they are called less American or "un-American." So I think a conservative American intellectual would be one who writes books full of generalizations.

You are so smoking crack! [Flaming] <--crack smoker

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duchess

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the Mid and others...let me clarify something.

LOOK...you can make alll theeee generalizations you want about what I eat for breakfast...what music I listen to...etc...I don't give a flying rat's you know what. [I eat bagels with cream cheese most of the time by the way..sometimes wheat bagels with fat free chream cheese and sometimes some fruit like a banana)...You can even
say I look like I laid an egg in my picture I posted (which somebody did...How did you know?)

What I mind though is:
You reading some free-basing book of "America is bad-bad...they are blah-blah" and then come in here and tell us stuff you read from a crack-smoker who has no clue about things in our politics! When you can't even get our govt right...or how our laws work (hint: read up on electrol voting...read up on the Bill of Rights...read up on the 3 branches of govt). If you believe Bill Clinton walks on Water and George Bush sucks eggs...at least have the decency to read up a whole heck of a lot before you make up your minds. Ignorant opinions from outsiders about our politics really bite dead farm animals with bacteria...please at least read up on BOTH SIDES...don't be lazy...read up....PLUUUUEEEZE.

Thank you.

GOD BLESS GEOGRGE W. BUSH and AMERICA, [Sunny]

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quote:
GEOGRGE W BUSH
The GEOGRGE Also Rises.

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