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Thread: Hell: The Evangelical-Bashing Room: a safe refuge for all of you who want to whinge
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AndT
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Great -now you can tell me what that's supposed to mean to me.
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Wood
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It was a *very* gentle hint that you may have missed the point.
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Olorin
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# 2010
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Gentle, Wood? Are you not feeling well?
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mousethief
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I think the "gentle" was meant as sarcasm, mate.
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Tim V
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# 830
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This could prove useful as well.
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CorgiGreta
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# 443
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Mark The Punk.
Quote: "I do NOT walk tightropes"
Then you are not a funambulist.
Greta
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Pyx_e
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CM if this is true ;
quote:
But is bishop-bashing?
David
orthodox guy who misses the Masturbation thread in T & T
aim more carefully
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Edward Green
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Wood:
You make a number of important points.
Point one refers to my inconsistent approach to Evangelicals and Evangelicalism. You have reminded me that to claim to love someone then deny their spirituality is deeply offensive. I apologise.
Point two refers to my rather repetitious spouting, and how I often back off. The only reason that I can see that I back off is either that 'A' I am wrong, or 'B' that I don't mean what I say. Whichever it is I will "engage brain" before posting on the subject again. The reason I keep coming back to the subject is more complex.
Point three refers to my experience. I have never been eager to share my experience, but it is extremely hard to talk in abstract terms about issues in the church we feel strongly about. I am convinced there are tendencies in all traditions which can be damaging, and I have had more experience of Evangelicalism than any other tradition. Furthermore I spend a lot of time in a sphere dominated by Evangelicalism - it's like making a slipknot fan listen to jazz all day - I get a little pissed some times. In the future I will endeavour to discuss issues without labels.
Point four suggests that I am being modernist about my post-modernism. What you say is true ... if truth exists. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Point five consists of five statements that were obviously aimed at my jugular. I didn't find them that offensive, because I found them funny. If anything this demonstrates that on this subject I have degenerated into a self parody.
Point six is incorrect. Evangelicalism did work for me, it doesn't now in quite the same way, but I do appreciate what it gave me.
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Wood
The Milkman of Human Kindness
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I've PM'd Edward to say thanks for his very gracious apology and to pick up on a couple of points in his post.
Since Edward was my primary target in this thread, it may be time to close it, if the hosts agree.
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Wood
The Milkman of Human Kindness
# 7
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quote:
Originally posted by Olorin:
Gentle, Wood? Are you not feeling well?
Gentle for me.
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tomb
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# 174
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Well! This is certainly a surprise.
I had no idea, Wood, that you had a specific Target for your thread, as opposed to a general dissatisfaction with the way Evangelicals are treated in Britain.
I'm so glad I didn't add to the thread my post (as a participant and not a host) noting that British evangelicalism is a far different creature than American evangelicalism and pointing out that the Americans posting here probably didn't Have a Clue as to what you were talking about.
If I had made such a statement, I would have obviously seemed to you just as clueless as my compatriots, and for a Host, to be perceived as a Colonial Idiot just won't do. Why, I would have had to find a reason to Savage some of the poor hellposters just to re-establish my Authority.
So you have saved me from an Uncharitable Act. Bravo, Wood!
I have no problem with closing this thread, as I am Bored.By.It. (Chalk it up to an American's Short Attention Span.) I will do so before I go to bed tonight. Since that will be the crack of dawn BST, everyone feel free to PM me if you want me to re-open it so you can continue the debate.
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Nightlamp
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# 266
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Oh good my fellow host replied before I thought Of an answer.
Anyway about parish share /quota (CofE thing)
I have come across a CofE churches who haven't paid because;
a) the people do not see the point of giving money to the church (poor teaching about christain giving, I suspect). What little money the church raises goes to keeping the church building warm.
b)Why finance Bishops to live in nice houses.
c) we ain't got a vicar so why should we pay for one.
The above don't seem limited to churchmanship although point 'a' is less likely to be found in evangelical churches.
Anyway isn't quota/ share voluntary?
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tomb
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# 174
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So be it.
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