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Source: (consider it) Thread: Doctor Who: The Doctor is back! (Summer 2012)
Robert Armin

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TGG, I agree with a lot of what you said, especially, "If this is a sign that the Doctor's going back to being a cosmic hobo and meddler, without all the messianic baggage, I'll be very happy". The way the Doctor punished the Family of Blood rang alarms for me, even at the time. It sounded great, but when did he acquire the power the power to imprison people in mirrors etc? However, I still reckon the last 6 episodes of Martha* were a sustained high point, because of the way the details linked in together to form an effective finale. And one of the many reasons why Martha is my favourite new companion is that she is the only one to save the day without being given superpowers. Instead of becoming one-with-the-Tardis, or anything like that, she slogged around the world with good old fashioned grit and determination.


* since we can't seem to agree on what number that season was

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Even if he couldn't go back directly to 1938, couldn't he go back a bit later? In an earlier incarnation he spent a lot of time on Earth in the 1960s and 1970s, surely he could pop over to New York and catch up with them.

I know that was an earlier incarnation and he didn't know the Ponds then, but he could surely go now?

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I read it that the angels kept sending them back in time, maybe every year, or even less, so they were permanently stuck in one short period. This is how the angels feed off them.

Because this fractures time, and the interventions, not to mention the paradox, from this episode had brought it close to collapse, any further intervention into this brief period will cause devastation. Although it doesn't entirely explain how Melody got her book out, that seems like less of a problem.

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And, just to settle the dispute before it gets truly Whovian: Series 3, with Martha Jones, is also known as Season 29.

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Timey-wimey loopholes I can sort of accept because it's Tradition™ in Who to make that bit up as you go along. What I don't really get is the way Weeping Angels are actually supposed to be dangerous. Creepy, yes. Unusual, yes. Requiring a bit of thought, maybe.

Daleks are dangerous for various reasons. Dalekanium armour and shields make them hard to kill. High tech weaponry, numbers and uniform ruthlessness gives them considerable offensive capability. Despising all other life-forms means you're probably not going to get on very well with any of them. But Weeping Angels? Their one defence is this "quantum-locking" thing that makes them invulnerable when somebody's looking at them. So lob a hand grenade and close your eyes.

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Rory and Amy stayed in New York (presumably) and were buried there. They could have gone back to the UK or anywhere in the world. Spin-off series, anyone?

Am I right in hearing that River/Melody was released because there was no longer any sign that the Doctor had existed so she couldn't have killed him. Is this something that Oswin Oswald did when she made the Daleks forget him?

And will Davros and/or Dalek Caan remember him?

[ 03. October 2012, 12:54: Message edited by: The Rogue ]

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I love* the weeping angels and Blink was and still is my favourite episode (hence the sig!), but I still can't quite fathom (remember?) why they went from zapping people back into the past, to breaking their necks while trapped on the ship, and now they're back to doing what the angels are supposed to be known for?

*English really is inadequate sometimes and especially when it comes to the word 'love'!

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quote:
Originally posted by The Rogue:
Rory and Amy stayed in New York (presumably) and were buried there. They could have gone back to the UK or anywhere in the world. Spin-off series, anyone?

As long as it's not Torchwood ...
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quote:
Originally posted by The Rogue:
Am I right in hearing that River/Melody was released because there was no longer any sign that the Doctor had existed so she couldn't have killed him. Is this something that Oswin Oswald did when she made the Daleks forget him?

I think it was more an inspiration kind of thing. The Doctor knew he needed a lower profile and then, when Oswin managed to make him a stranger to the Daleks, it struck him that he could go around erasing himself from other databases too. We are told that he has been spending a lot of time traveling alone (in between visits with the Ponds), which would give him plenty of time to be fiddling with databases.

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Robert Armin

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quote:
Originally posted by Ariston:
And, just to settle the dispute before it gets truly Whovian: Series 3, with Martha Jones, is also known as Season 29.

That means there were 26 seasons of the original Doctor. 26 is half of 52 - exactly half a year. Could this be reference to the "half a time" of
Revelation 12.14? Is Doctor Who a sign of the Apocalypse?

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quote:
Originally posted by Ariston:
And, just to settle the dispute before it gets truly Whovian: Series 3, with Martha Jones, is also known as Season 29.

So I was right, then!

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quote:
Originally posted by Hedgehog:
quote:
Originally posted by The Rogue:
Am I right in hearing that River/Melody was released because there was no longer any sign that the Doctor had existed so she couldn't have killed him. Is this something that Oswin Oswald did when she made the Daleks forget him?

I think it was more an inspiration kind of thing. The Doctor knew he needed a lower profile and then, when Oswin managed to make him a stranger to the Daleks, it struck him that he could go around erasing himself from other databases too. We are told that he has been spending a lot of time traveling alone (in between visits with the Ponds), which would give him plenty of time to be fiddling with databases.
Interesting. I thought the whole point of his faked death in the last series was that he could just "not exist" for a bit so that the entire universe wasn't after him, and have been interpreting everything in that light. But now I think about it, he started this series biting on the hook of a Dalek-drone sent specifically to fetch him for the suicide mission to the asylum, and it was only after his escape that the Daleks didn't recognise him, he wasn't in Solomon's database, and so on. I'm not sure what to make of that.

But I'm still annoyed (probably irrationally) by the careless way River's timelines are sometimes ridiculously tangled, and sometimes neatly linear. She travels in time, he travels in time, but somehow, the first time he meets her after her release (and it appeared to be the first time she met him as well) is just after whatever happened to erase him from history. How convenient.

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Hedgehog

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Originally posted by The Great Gumby:
But I'm still annoyed (probably irrationally) by the careless way River's timelines are sometimes ridiculously tangled, and sometimes neatly linear. She travels in time, he travels in time, but somehow, the first time he meets her after her release (and it appeared to be the first time she met him as well) is just after whatever happened to erase him from history. How convenient.

They are overly casual about things like that--but then, in the classic series, I always wondered why the Doctor and the Master, both traveling in time, somehow always managed to meet up in linear order.

Having said that, and trying to inject a little retroactive continuity, when the Doctor (10th) first meets River in The Library, there is no indication that she is there on prison work release or anything of that nature. For that reason, it could be argued that the Doctor has always known that River would eventually be released from prison. And now he knows why.

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But I'm still annoyed (probably irrationally)

Just say "Timey-wimey" ten times quickly and have a few beers. The feeling will soon go away.

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That seriously needs to be a t-shirt.

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Kelly Alves

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quote:
Originally posted by Hedgehog:
For that reason, it could be argued that the Doctor has always known that River would eventually be released from prison. And now he knows why.

Like I said, he's a momzer.

I like Smith, and love the heart and passion he's brought to the role. I liked Tennant, too, for that matter. But The Doctor himself is someone who I would have pushed out of the TARDIS long ago if I were stuck with him long enough. He (as a character) is charming and entertaining for exactly one hour, in weekly intervals. After that, the Christ/ Peter Pan complex combined with "Rule Number One" would start to get to me.Hit about three hours and I could see my axe-hand getting twitchy.

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So ... we're NOT voting for Kelly for the next Companion, then?

Too bad. I would so watch that.

Actually I could imagine your tenure as Companion being similar to Donna's, since I think she had many of the same reactions you describe -- which is why she was my favourite Companion by far.

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Kelly Alves

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How about a six-foot big blue bunny with a you-know what, and me doing voiceover? [Big Grin]

Kel// it would have to be blue.

//And Donna was my favorite, too, for the above stated reasons.

[ 03. October 2012, 19:51: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
But The Doctor himself is someone who I would have pushed out of the TARDIS long ago if I were stuck with him long enough. He (as a character) is charming and entertaining for exactly one hour, in weekly intervals. After that, the Christ/ Peter Pan complex combined with "Rule Number One" would start to get to me.Hit about three hours and I could see my axe-hand getting twitchy.

Reverting to Classic Who, one of the reasons I genuinely love watching the first season of the series with William Hartnell is that the Doctor clearly irritates (and is irritated by) Ian & Barbara. He is dictatorial, which ruffles their feathers (although one or the other usually plays peacemaker with the other). But, under the set-up of the show then, they could not really get rid of the other. The Doctor literally could not get them back home because he couldn't control the TARDIS that well. As such, Ian & Barbara were stuck with him whether they liked it or not because he was the only hope that they could get back home.

And that is what made the end of The Chase so great. Ian & Barbara finally find a way to get home that does NOT depend on the TARDIS, and the Doctor is clearly hurt that they want to leave him because, for all the irritation and arguments, he has grown to like having them around. While he was still a prickly, irritable, cantankerous old man--he had become a much better person because of his time with Ian & Barbara.

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Hence Amy's comment of "Don't travel alone for too long."

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Kelly Alves

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quote:
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Ian & Barbara finally find a way to get home that does NOT depend on the TARDIS, and the Doctor is clearly hurt that they want to leave him because, for all the irritation and arguments, he has grown to like having them around.

Now I feel bad.

OK, my dream companion would be a combination parole officer/ shrink assigned bu UNIT or Torchwood or whoever, and their relationship would consist of the kind of provisional suspension of dislike that allows people who hate each other to function efficiently.

Maybe somewhere around mid-season she cracks a smile at one of his jokes, but he gets so hysterically joyful about it she instantly regrets it.

Not that I think about it much.

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Really? One week.

Wow ... we used to be about 6 months - 6 years behind ...

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quote:
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quote:
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Really? One week.

Wow ... we used to be about 6 months - 6 years behind ...
Actually, we're not even one week behind. The episodes have been popping up on iView at about 6am on a Sunday morning our time. One week is just if you wait to watch it on television...


Which I did this time around. I was very good and managed to avoid seeing anything about it all week. Although, really, the general arc was fairly obvious.

Things I loved: River. Absolutely, it was River. Things like her writing books and the Doctor manufacturing vases with YOWZAH on them are just loads of fun, and Alex Kingston can pull off the necessary shifts from mischievous to serious.

Also did enjoy the Angels being back to more like their Blinking selves.

And did also enjoy a lot of the emotional content. However, there were points where they overdid it. Slow motion falls with swelling music are a sign that you don't actually trust your script/actors. And to be honest, they've been laying on the "Amy and Rory love each other" material in a somewhat peculiar fashion for a number of episodes. Yes, sure, they are soulmates. But does that mean they need to express it like sentimental Hallmark cards at times? Sometimes it's convincing, sometimes it simply isn't.

I also didn't love the business with doors opening by themselves and lifts operating by themselves. Do we really need the angels to be doing that? And the Statue of Liberty business was really quite pointless.

A bit of a curate's egg, but it seems so MANY episodes are.

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Ooh. Just saw that Neil Gaiman is set to write another episode. Hooray!

Also saw that Mark Gatiss is doing another one. Somewhat less keen about that...

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Gaiman rocks. There's a guy who can combine good old sci-fi flash with loving attention to character.

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quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
Slow motion falls with swelling music are a sign that you don't actually trust your script/actors.

THANK YOU.


(One more Doctor character gripe-- the name dropping. Arrgggh! The name dropping. You tell me, if you were at a party and someone other than a 1000- year -old Timelord were doing that, would you find it pretty? Personally, I don't care what the hell planet you come from, I'm taking my martini and seeking a different conversation.)

(Again, I Love Hiatus. [Big Grin] )

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quote:
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Ooh. Just saw that Neil Gaiman is set to write another episode. Hooray!

Also saw that Mark Gatiss is doing another one. Somewhat less keen about that...

Gatkiss is doing two.

Others announced, Steven Moffat, two episodes.
Neil Cross ans Neil Gaiman, one episode each.
Two episodes TBA.

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Watching the Angels again.

Was wondering why on earth Rory would wander into that building. Then I realised: unlike Amy, Rory has never encountered the Angels before.

Neat, I thought.

But then a bit of Wikipedia research pointed out that he sorta kinda did, in 'The God Complex'. But not proper ones...

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Robert Armin

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Anyone tempted to buy this to fill in the long wait until the series recommences? (And is it only available in the States?)

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[Roll Eyes] Jesus wept.

(and fuck yeah, I 'd go to that game night.)

[ 10. October 2012, 19:29: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

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Go on - you know you're tempted.....

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quote:
Originally posted by balaam:
quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
Ooh. Just saw that Neil Gaiman is set to write another episode. Hooray!

Also saw that Mark Gatiss is doing another one. Somewhat less keen about that...

Gatkiss is doing two.

Others announced, Steven Moffat, two episodes.
Neil Cross ans Neil Gaiman, one episode each.
Two episodes TBA.

That Neil Cross who did Luther and Spooks?! Ohhhh interesting. I like Mark Gatkiss in Sherlock and Gentleman but his Doctor Who stuff, not so much. Glad too see that Gaiman's back

[Yipee]

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(And is it only available in the States?)

I've seen that in the shops here, although with Matt's Doctor, Amy and Rory on the cover.

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It is available fro Amazon in the UK (and has just gone on my Christmas list [Smile] )
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The BBC has now released an unfilmed piece of script about what happened to Brian: Brian

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Robert Armin

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Watched the first 15 seconds of that clip. Schmalzy music, Doctor with his arms draped round Amy and Rory making emotional speech, Brian looking uncomfortable - I had to stop it or I would have vomited. Glad the BBC had the sense not to broadcast it originally.

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quote:
Originally posted by Robert Armin:
Watched the first 15 seconds of that clip. Schmalzy music, Doctor with his arms draped round Amy and Rory making emotional speech, Brian looking uncomfortable - I had to stop it or I would have vomited. Glad the BBC had the sense not to broadcast it originally.

Yeah, except the first 15 seconds wasn't the unfilmed bit!

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Robert Armin

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I did wonder about that. However, I won't be going back to see the rest of the clip. While I enjoy trivia about true-Who, my appetite for nu-Who has limits.

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Can anyone answer a geekier-than-thou question for me? Do we know why some Timelords are happy to use names (Rassilon, Morbius, Romana) but some only use titles (the Doctor, the Master, the Corsair)?

And why some names are so secret (like the Doctor's, though possibly we are getting into the first question that must never be asked territory here).

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Originally posted by M.:
Do we know why some Timelords are happy to use names (Rassilon, Morbius, Romana) but some only use titles (the Doctor, the Master, the Corsair)?

It's never been officially explained. All the Timelords seen actually on Gallifrey have names rather than titles, I believe; whereas the Master and the Doctor are largely operating outside official Timelord society. So the implication is that giving up their name is something a Timelord does when they go renegade.
Morbius is a bit problematic for the theory but he started out trying to take over Gallifrey from within so he may never have considered himself a renegade. (Or it's not actually his name.)

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I saw the clip about Brian.
I cried.
It was a beautiful ending, harking back to Blink.
I think Chris Chibnall is a very good writer, and Arthur Darvill read it perfectly.

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Seconded [Tear]

[ 13. October 2012, 14:25: Message edited by: Pine Marten ]

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quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Armin:
Watched the first 15 seconds of that clip. Schmalzy music, Doctor with his arms draped round Amy and Rory making emotional speech, Brian looking uncomfortable - I had to stop it or I would have vomited. Glad the BBC had the sense not to broadcast it originally.

Yeah, except the first 15 seconds wasn't the unfilmed bit!
Yes, that bit was included, and very good. The extra bit could have done without the music, which was rather overpowering. But the scenes were stunning, and I would have liked to have seen them do that. I suspected that something of this nature might have happened, with or without the grandson.

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Ooh, Dafyd, thank you, good thought.

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I have to say I loved the PS bit. Yes, the music was a bit much, but I found it genuinely moving, and thought Rory narrated beautifully. Slight sob.

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Find out your renegade Time Lord name

I'm sure there are plenty of these about.

My Ship name returns "The Eye".

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Mine is Gormasmus [Eek!] and my previous Ship name translates as Demacrex, which I think I prefer...

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My Ship Name comes back as "The Mathematician"--which is about as accurate for me as the Meddling Monk being a monk.

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I'm a bit worried about my renegade status...

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You should worry - my renegade TimeLord name comes out as The Trouser Meddler! [Ultra confused]

However, much nicer, my RL name comes out as The Liberator!

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