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Penny S
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They didn't do anything to rescue the people on the spaceship before it blew up, did they?
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Heh. That question totally reminds me of stuff I've said in role-playing games. "Wait a minute, did anybody state that they let the people on the ship go? Before it blew up?"
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Worth mentioning that Kate Stewart hasn't only been invented for this story (Since the Brig is no longer available) - she was a major character in two Doctorless UNIT stories which appeared as video spin-offs back in the 90s (which incidently had Nick Courtney and Elisabeth Sladen in - so are are about as canonical as you can be without the Doctor.....)
Chibnall has done his research. A+ for that part. Shame about the ending as it was so good up to that point.
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I was thinking about the angels the other day, and preparing myself to battle them (just in case), and I had an idea: when the angels invade my house, I will avoid blinking by alternating left and right eye winks.
But I'm not sure if the field of vision in each eye will be sufficient to ward off the more peripherally located angels. Clearly I will have to start looking at them when they are in the doorway.
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Ariston's bang on the money. This was a story that deserved more time to develop, and didn't even get as much as normal, because this entire episode was a vehicle for more Pondlife. The cubes were an interesting, high-concept plot which got scandalously wasted. Mind you, better that than Torchwood turning it into another bloated series - Episode 1, Jack has breakfast. Cliffhanger: has he got enough milk? Episode 2, Yes he has...
If they'd just made it like a modern two-parter, we could have had a whole episode after the cubes started attacking people for things to be resolved. But that would have involved addressing some awkward plotholes, like how a race could be so advanced as to make intelligent, indestructible cubes that just ping out of nowhere like snowglobes, but also leave everything controlled by an effectively unmanned spaceship with no defence against a quick hack from a sonic screwdriver. Or how they could do all this research on humanity and not notice the time-travelling nutcase who has a bit of a soft spot for them and keeps foiling attempted invasions/destructions of Earth. For starters.
Once again, it feels like a story with lots of potential has been forced into the wrong shape of hole because of external factors. Here, it's the need for a short run to dump the Ponds and make a clean break before Christmas. Can we please just have a single series that starts, runs for a sensible period of time and then stops, with no breaks or hiatuses in the middle requiring added drama, big explosions and yet another cataclysmic event?
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Oh yes, oh yes, please could we have that? I got pretty fed up with the Pond life segments, and gaped when Amy mentioned their acquaintance with the Doctor had been over ten years - ten years? ye gods...
And ![[Overused]](graemlins/notworthy.gif) to Ariston.
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Overall I enjoyed this one, although I agree with everyone who has said the ending was rushed and simplistic. Most of the time it was low CGI, low budget, and concentrated on relationships in a rather quirky way. Having spent two seasons loathing Amy, she is finally getting some intelligent writing, although Rory remains woefully underused. What does strike me (since the whole universe knows next episode is the end of the Ponds - that is more firmly set in stone than the death of the Doctor was) is how much the Doctor likes them, and will miss them when they are gone. It seems to me me he's got more emotion invested in them than in any previous companion (and I'm not forgetting Rose, and the never ending love affair.....).
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Ariston
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Let's go with what we know. The next episode will see the end of Amy, Rory, and David
David? Who's David?
What I thought Brian Pond's first name was for whatever strange reason.
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OK. I just thought I'd missed something.
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Penny S
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One of the banks (HSBC) has an advertisement about mortgages with a rather astonished cherub on one leg on a gatepost. I wonder how many Who watchers it will attract. (Can't find an image.)
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The trailer for next week had a clip of the Statue of Liberty and youngest Rogueling asked if that is a Weeping Angel.
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Hedgehog
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The trailer for next week had a clip of the Statue of Liberty and youngest Rogueling asked if that is a Weeping Angel.
Now THERE is a plot twist that I had not thought of!
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The trailer for next week had a clip of the Statue of Liberty and youngest Rogueling asked if that is a Weeping Angel.
Now THERE is a plot twist that I had not thought of!
Somebody did ... and that was before the trailer for this episode aired. When my family was in NYC this summer my kids mentioned the possibility several times.
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Let's go with what we know. The next episode will see the end of Amy, Rory, and David
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What I thought Brian Pond's first name was for whatever strange reason.
As well as that Brian's surname is Williams as he is Rory's dad , not Amy's.
So you were in fact completely wrong the first time.
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Ariston
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Eeexcept that, once the Doctor calls you a Pond, you're a Pond.
Period.
No, no arguing this one. The Doctor has made it so.
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Loathing Amy is virtually impossible. For a straight bloke or lesbian, anyway.
I've read this before elsewhere. How strange to think that everyone shares your subjective opinion concerning beauty or desirability. Neither my husband nor my son nor my lesbian sister find Amy the least but attractive.
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In agreement with you, art dunce. Amy (and Karen) just have never struck me as desirable.
Now if we are talking about Oswin (Jenna Louise Coleman), that is a whole different story....
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*[also, yes, our geek girl is insanely smart, but please note the insanely short hemline.Yes,viewing public she's smart and that's important (pat pat), but MIND THE HEMLINE! EYES ON THE HEMLINE! I can't imagine how poor Jenna wrangled that thing with all the tearing around her room she was doing.)
She did an excellent job wrangling the hemline while tearing around the room. I paid particularly close attention to how well she was doing. Very talented.
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Kelly Alves
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Is this really a cute contest? They're both gorgeous. Yeesh.
[ETA, not you , Hedgehog, that was funny.Porcine, but funny. ![[Biased]](wink.gif) ]
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Honestly, I never noticed the hemline. I've also yet to see a companion who annoyed me entirely . . . well, okay, other than Rose the Undying, but that's not her fault.
Also, can we get past the "she's attractive, therefore you must like her" idea? There's a lot more to why even a bloke like me might like a character than that. And yes, I am a bloke.
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Kelly Alves
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Hush, Ariston. TV producers have build entire empires on insulting men's intelligence; if you challenge that, you might wind up with a bunch of Time/ Warner suits with brass knucks on your doorstep in the middle of the night.
But that's another thread. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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I don't fancy Amy either, The only fancyable assistant in NewWho was Martha. A bloke has spoken.
Not that I disliked the rest (apart from odd episodes of Amy) but that's not Karen Gillan's fault.
I blame the way she was written, as Ms Gillan can do fancyable, as evidenced here.
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Karl is obviously right! You folk need to check out what they are putting in the water down your way. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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Honestly, I never noticed the hemline. I've also yet to see a companion who annoyed me entirely . . . well, okay, other than Rose the Undying, but that's not her fault.
I suggest you see if you can get hold of an episode with Peri or one with Adric. Then report back and let us know what you thought.
It may be that you're just a very tolerant person.
(Hemline, what hemline? I haven't a clue what she was wearing.)
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I blame the way she was written, as Ms Gillan can do fancyable, as evidenced here.
Thank you for that.
I'm with you, Baalam. I think that she was shoved into a straight-woman/ deadpan/ gal Friday type persona that didn't mesh with her gifts. And I understand the actor plays the role, but in an ongoing, tv type situation, doesn't it behoove the writers to figure out ways to draw on the actor's assets?
Positive example: "Dinosaurs in Space" the scene where Amy is noodling around with the computer screen. She was beaming like a schoolgirl, just absorbed in the techiness of it all. That's the girl I wish I'd gotten to know better.
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Originally posted by Ariston:
Honestly, I never noticed the hemline. I've also yet to see a companion who annoyed me entirely . . . well, okay, other than Rose the Undying, but that's not her fault.
I suggest you see if you can get hold of an episode with Peri or one with Adric.
This.
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(Hemline, what hemline? I haven't a clue what she was wearing.)
As it turns out, she was wearing a shell of dalekanium armor.
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Ariston
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Originally posted by Ariston:
Honestly, I never noticed the hemline. I've also yet to see a companion who annoyed me entirely . . . well, okay, other than Rose the Undying, but that's not her fault.
I suggest you see if you can get hold of an episode with Peri or one with Adric. Then report back and let us know what you thought.
It may be that you're just a very tolerant person.
(Hemline, what hemline? I haven't a clue what she was wearing.)
Yes, fine, I was only thinking NuHu—point Very Much Taken. Why did the first American companion have to be so damn dumb?
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Penny S
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There are some interesting suggestions for the possible removal of the Ponds over on the Guardian blogs on the subject.
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The Revolutionist
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I'm looking forward to tomorrow's episode. I'll be sorry to see Amy and Rory go. It's been interesting to see the Doctor stay involved with his companion's lives - a new slant on the companion relationship. Their personal lives could have been written a bit better though - for example, if The Power of Three had given a bit more context to Amy and Rory's almost-divorce in Asylum of the Daleks.
I've done a speculation episode of my podcast with some theories about what might happen.
Given that River Song regenerated as a child in New York in 1969, might Mr and Mrs Pond end up thrown back in time and able to bring her up, giving them the parenthood they thought they'd lost?
The Statue of Liberty as a Weeping Angel would be fun, though I'm not sure how it would work logically with so many people looking at it all the time. Perhaps the other angels are trying to kill/displace everyone in New York as a "rescue mission" for it?
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The Statue of Liberty as a Weeping Angel would be fun, though I'm not sure how it would work logically with so many people looking at it all the time. Perhaps the other angels are trying to kill/displace everyone in New York as a "rescue mission" for it?
I thought the Angels were all made of stone? Ms Liberty's made of copper (I think. Isn't she?).
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Their personal lives could have been written a bit better though
Rory's a fucking nurse. A NURSE. A nurse is hanging out with the Doctor. Anyone who has spent any time in long term care knows that the doctor might hold the title, but the nurse is running a heck of a lot of the show. Boy, if I had that character in my hands I would have worked that dynamic.
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I thought the Angels were all made of stone? Ms Liberty's made of copper (I think. Isn't she?).
As far as we know muahahaha!
(You're right, copper.)
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Originally posted by The Revolutionist:
Given that River Song regenerated as a child in New York in 1969, might Mr and Mrs Pond end up thrown back in time and able to bring her up, giving them the parenthood they thought they'd lost?
Except that "Mel" wouldn't then been raised as a hate-crazed assassin to kill the Doctor, so wouldn't have been shot by Hitler, so wouldn't have regenerated into River, so wouldn't have met the Doctor ... and so on.
So yes, that probably is what will happen. Timey-wimey and to hell with continuity!
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The Statue of Liberty as a Weeping Angel would be fun, though I'm not sure how it would work logically with so many people looking at it all the time.
And, in the very dark Invasion HQ of the Weeping Angels, there is the sound of a forehead being slapped and a shout of "D'oh!"
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Just caught up with The Slow Invasion... EDIT: Oh wait, it wasn't actually called that, was it? I genuinely forgot. That's just the title I expected to see, rather than the one I did see that got used in an appallingly lame fashion.
Pretty much agree with what many others said. Found it terribly intriguing, found myself tensing up, PERFECT use of Rory's Dad (who else would diligently keep a log for 361 days? Brilliant!), even liked the villain and the chance to contrast the Doctor's view of humanity with what the rest of the universe probably thinks of them. Us.
And then... the Doctor stops everything at the drop of a hat. Or the wave of a screwdriver.
It really did feel like I'd had the rug pulled out from under me.
Yes, yes, yes to the suggestion of ye olde multi-parter with shorter episodes. It really could have worked in that format.
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I'm not going to be able to see The Angels Take Manhattan till tomorrow. I think between now and then I'd better try to avoid the internet, tv, radio, newspapers and in fact all forms of mass communication ....
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Originally posted by The Revolutionist:
The Statue of Liberty as a Weeping Angel would be fun, though I'm not sure how it would work logically with so many people looking at it all the time. Perhaps the other angels are trying to kill/displace everyone in New York as a "rescue mission" for it?
You'd have to stage some spectacle so shocking that everyone with a view over downtown Manhattan or New York Harbour was looking at the same thing at the same time, and no-one towards Liberty.
I can think of one of those recently. But I doubt if Doctor Who is going to go there.
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It's the feast of St Michael and all angels today. Did the BBC realise this when scheduling?
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We know about the angels from the trailer, but is someone called Micky going to show up, do you think?!
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You'd have to stage some spectacle so shocking that everyone with a view over downtown Manhattan or New York Harbour was looking at the same thing at the same time, and no-one towards Liberty.
I can think of one of those recently. But I doubt if Doctor Who is going to go there.
Not even then.
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Originally posted by The Revolutionist:
Given that River Song regenerated as a child in New York in 1969, might Mr and Mrs Pond end up thrown back in time and able to bring her up, giving them the parenthood they thought they'd lost?
Except that "Mel" wouldn't then been raised as a hate-crazed assassin to kill the Doctor, so wouldn't have been shot by Hitler, so wouldn't have regenerated into River, so wouldn't have met the Doctor ... and so on.
So yes, that probably is what will happen. Timey-wimey and to hell with continuity!
Except, hang on; if we accept that Amy and Mels grew up together—that is, are about the same age—and that Amy was born in 1989, then we have 20 years of Melody Pond to account for. We've already established that, for the rest of her life/lives, The Child/Mels/River was, well, if not exactly normal, at least not a murderous psychopath; perhaps, for those twenty years, she was able to be Amy & Rory's daughter, only entering Kill Mode upon regenerating in front of the Doctor.*
Now, narrative loose ends this would tie up:
Where was Melody between '69 and '89?
Don't you want to let Amy and Rory have their family?
You don't have to kill any Ponds this way to write them out of the series; the Doctor just can't have any more contact with them, lest he flip the Bespoke Psychopath switch a bit too early.*
In the end, Melody Pond doesn't kill the Doctor, despite being trained and conditioned to do so. What is it that holds her back, makes her less determined to fulfill her purpose in life, and, in the end, causes her to sacrifice herself and the universe on multiple occasions for him? Maybe good and proper parenting?
Oh, and why, according to the previews, is this the only episode in this half of the season to have River in it? With all this Pond Life stuff, couldn't we have had their daughter play a bigger role?
*Yes, fine, the Doctor encountered Melody in two prior incarnations where she (arguably) didn't try to kill him—both as The Child and as Mels. Of course, there might be some question of why she was shooting a gun in the TARDIS if not to shoot the Doctor, but that's still pretty ambiguous.
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Well that was a GOOD episode! Still glad that Amy's no more, but she went with style. And Rory will be sadly missed.
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Originally posted by Adeodatus:
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Originally posted by The Revolutionist:
The Statue of Liberty as a Weeping Angel would be fun, though I'm not sure how it would work logically with so many people looking at it all the time. Perhaps the other angels are trying to kill/displace everyone in New York as a "rescue mission" for it?
I thought the Angels were all made of stone? Ms Liberty's made of copper (I think. Isn't she?).
Just we had established that she was copper....
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Was it ever established that the angels had to be stone?
Stone or copper, they're still scary,
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Interesting and creepy episode. I like the idea of the little baby angels only being able to move people in space, not in time.
I really thought Rory was going to do it. Also thought right at the end that he and Amy had died and were ghosts who were just about to discover that they couldn't leave the graveyard or get into the Tardis.
Great stuff. Not sure I'll ever feel quite the same way about statues, though.
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The Rogue
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I think they did go out in style. I felt a bit uncomfortable at the suicide bit, though. I also felt that as the episode progressed it was rather disjointed but when I looked back near the end it seemed to work pretty well.
Any volunteers to be the next Companion?
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What a really weird episode; I'm still trying to figure out what I thought of it - there was a bit too much handwaving as to why they couldn't just go back and get them.
The Angels were good monsters in Blink, but I think they should've been a one off - if you think too much about them they just come off a bit silly (and plotholes come in). The Lady Liberty bit just made me laugh (do the events of this episode means it no longer exists in the Whoniverse?)
I'm not sure how I feel about Amy either - sometimes she seemed like a Mary Sue, but other times she went through some absolutely horrendous abuse!
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The Revolutionist
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Hmmm... there was lots I really liked about the episode - the Angels were creepy; great performances from Matt, Karen and Arthur; the film noir pastiche was fun. But there was too much contrivance for me to really buy into the reality of the situation at the end, so it didn't work for me emotionally. A good episode, but not quite a great one. And the whole committing suicide thing felt a bit weird.
The Statue of Liberty did indeed get Angel-ified! But they didn't even try to make logical sense of it...
My podcast commentary on the episode is up on Impossible Podcasts, if you fancy listening to all my ramblings on the subject.
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(Avoids looking up as hasn't seen episode yet)
I can't believe how bummed out I am right now.
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
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Ariston
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LALALALALAAAAA, have to wait until tomorrow for stupid iTunes to upload The Who.
Either that, or figure out how to make this whole proxy server thing work. Which, let's be honest, would probably take me until tomorrow anyway.
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