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Angloid
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(This has landed at the top of the page! Referring to Amos's post.) [ 01. August 2010, 22:49: Message edited by: Angloid ]
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Gill H
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Life is starting to reflect art. Yesterday we were approached on the street by a guy asking for money, and he looked the absolute image of the guy who always comes to Adam. He didn't actually say "Y'see, what it is, yeah" but it was pretty close.
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quote: Originally posted by RadicalWhig: quote: Originally posted by Spike: ]The IT Crowd is unfunny
The fourth series really wasunfunny. Such a disappointment.
i tend to agree, although it did have flashes of brilliance - the start of "Bad Boys" when Roy's depressed about "Can you turn it off and on again", then sees the state of Jen's laptop, and Jen's attitude to it all, was excellent. But overall, those moments have been much sparser.
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I absolutely love the series. I'd rather go to a vicar who is genuinely 'human' and puzzled and bit lonely at times and struggling with this and that than one who is trying to act like a faith-salesman/woman filled with radical ideas about things. A personal choice, of course.
I think for most people, life isn't radicalised and they don't really want it to be. I'm ever minded of the big Evangelical conference I attended which was there to rave about our amazing new 'take' on faith...and the only people at it were fit, healthy, smiley white folk of the same class and age group and identikit dress code. About as radical in reality as giving loo roll a different name.
Most of society are just bloody desperate to feel loved and included - to feel as if they have something to give to God, and by gum that man (albeit fictional) knows how to make the marginalised and tired and worn down in his parish feel loved and included and accepted and wanted for who they are. There they are, taking part in that church, loving being in it, giving back to him and to God. Brilliant, just brilliant in its simplicity and quiet message. And very funny in parts, too.
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Gill H
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I have to admit, I've had recent experience of a very Rev-esque church. Perhaps some of them are just better at hiding their messiness when someone in authority turns up (rather like the Queen thinking everywhere smells of paint...)
Apparently there were objections to 'Dad's Army' when it first ran, because people saw it as disrespectful to the Home Guard. And yet (to me anyway) it leaves me with a profound respect for what these ordinary, totally unqualified but brave people were trying to do, in the best way they knew. Perhaps there's a comparison there.
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+Pete's view is not shared by all his episcopal colleagues.
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quote: Originally posted by Amos: Oooooh! Angloid said 'Honest to God!' I'm telling!
South Bank Religion, Father? For shame!
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RadicalWhig
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quote: Originally posted by Angloid: ..vague, liberal, well-meaning but hesitant to state what he really believes, because he probably doesn't believe very much at all [...] and nevertheless believe that they are meant to keep the flame of faith alive; who are aware of the dangers of priestly authority; who recoil from the slick certainties of more doctrinaire members of the church; who somehow believe they are called to live alongside the outcast and poor and through them recognise their own vulnerability. [...] not driven by the need to put on a good face, or give a convincing presentation. Someone who is honest to God, in other words.
I wish there were more like this. To me, that's convincing, not the doctrinal certainties of the evangelical or catholic parties.
ETA: In fact, it's almost an "employee profile" for a good clergyman. [ 02. August 2010, 12:00: Message edited by: RadicalWhig ]
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I suppose Adam is a charicature but like all charicatures it is based on truth.
I see the series as definitely coming from Adam point of view, it is how his mind sees his life at this moment in time. And I have met more that one idealist, unassertive young(ish) christian driven to being Adam by getting ordained and taking on the relentless demands of urban life. Self doubt, wondering what their theological training was all about, working their socks off for their parish an so on.
But his relationship with God seems to be one of the things that sustains him.
I have met archdeacons who, when viewed from a certain angle, could be seen as being like this one. An angle which Adam is looking from, doubting feeling threatened unsure of themselves in new territory. Of course when viewed form another angle they may be totally different but this is Adam's view we can see, as a hesistant new boy.
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Robert Armin
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I've only just seen last week's episode (in time to catch tonight's) and thought it was the best yet. Adam's loneliness, the honesty of his praying, his desire to help others and the way he gets hurt as a result - all of these were deeply moving and wryly funny. As for Pete's comment: quote: Unfunny because it reflects wet liberal angst. Most of our clergy are missional, heroic and vibrantly full of faith.
I find it hard to disagree more. I know clergy of every description - high, low and middling - who struggle with the same issues Adam faces. I also know clergy of every stripe who hide their problems, pretend everything is great and succesful, and give a vibrant facade. My suspicion (as a "wet liberal") is that it is the first group who really transform lives, while the second help people pretend.
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Pete - I do appreciate your views, and you probably have a point, that it does not reflect the entire church across the area. But I recognise the church situations, the empty churches, the doubts, the struggles, from my time in East London. So for some of those in the pews, this is the reality that we see.
I still think that it shows a true picture of the church in urban areas, even if not the true picture, which is a bit of both views. In a drama/comedy series, the whole big complex picture of the church even in a small area cannot be shown. I don't even think that anyone knows that picture.
For me, Rev shows some of the struggles of making the faith actually work. I find that a really useful and helpful think to watch. And I think it does show the church in a good light - of people who don't know the answers, but are trying to find them.
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To my mind Adam is a hero. He is a hero because he is prepared to walk alongside the outcast and rejected, and he does so in spite of his own weakness and also because of it. He doesn’t have blind certainty that convinces him of the rightness of his belief and his God. He has doubts and insecurities, and he is tempted and fails. But he is still there. He has no arrogant pride; he is prepared to ‘feel the fear and do it anyway’ and that is courage.
The Archdeacon is also no pantomime villain. He pushes Adam and makes him strive for more, and he would rather there were more ‘Darrens’ in the church, with big congregations bringing in more money. But, when push comes to shove, he also knows that Adam has his own integrity. He doesn’t dismiss Adam as a worthless, wet liberal. He respects Adam for who Adam is. His pastoring may be uncomfortable, but he is pastoral – I’ve known worse Archdeacons and Bishops.
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Oh. My. God.
It's us!
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Avila
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'Can you prove you are a vicar?'
I have wondered about this for a while, particularly when we would encourge folk to check id of people calling on them. Some kind of photo id card from ordaining church?? After all the uniform and business cards can be got by anyone.
ETA - correct typo [ 02. August 2010, 21:17: Message edited by: Avila ]
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He ended up losing faith, boozing, getting MW citicism, other criticism also, and being miserable - and then prayed well for an elderly woman dying, having restated his ordaining words to the policeman and was helpful to her and seemed to feel better then - IMO a useful way of finishing and showing his real usefulness and kindness...
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I was frightened by the part where he was watching Bargain Hunt at lunchtime. That's just what this minister does!
Brilliant way to end an excellent series.
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Angloid
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Not much in the way of laughs but I had tears in my eyes at the end. This series should be compulsory viewing for every ordination course and theological college.
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Amos
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Absolutely. And for every ordination retreat. Perhaps even for the lock-in at the House of Bishops.
Seriously, I never thought I'd see anything so funny and so seriously religious on TV. Ever. [ 02. August 2010, 21:55: Message edited by: Amos ]
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That final episode - I cannot remember a better religious TV drama. Excruciating, pathetic and yet redemptive without a single hint of cloying sentiment. If you missed it, think of the last two minutes of Blackadder Goes Forth and stir in Isaiah 6:8.
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I had given up on it and only watched because of the Mystery Worshipper theme, having been 'done' myself. But this episode redeemed it for me. I hope there is another series. [ 02. August 2010, 22:22: Message edited by: The Weeder ]
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quote: Originally posted by Gill H: I have to admit, I've had recent experience of a very Rev-esque church. Perhaps some of them are just better at hiding their messiness when someone in authority turns up (rather like the Queen thinking everywhere smells of paint...)
Apparently there were objections to 'Dad's Army' when it first ran, because people saw it as disrespectful to the Home Guard. And yet (to me anyway) it leaves me with a profound respect for what these ordinary, totally unqualified but brave people were trying to do, in the best way they knew. Perhaps there's a comparison there.
Leesten very care-ful-ly I will say zeese only once......
There were quite a few complaints IIRC about 'Allo! 'Allo! because its setting ( occupied France) when it first came out
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quote: Originally posted by Angloid: Not much in the way of laughs but I had tears in my eyes at the end. This series should be compulsory viewing for every ordination course and theological college.
I'm at the end of the first year of my course, and have to agree. So important to see the calling in the moments when it really matters, and to envisage how a broken, messed up, ordinary person (like me) could still make a difference.
Also, I'm amazed at the serious and reflective trajectory across the series - what an engaging and inspiring work. The only trouble is, I can't imagine how it could now return as a comedy - it's shown it's hand as something more serious, honest and heartbreaking.
Anyway...
Um...
Err...
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Amazed there's not more chatter on here: last night's episode afaic was AMAZING. Yes the end was worthy of the last episode of Blackadder 4 but contrary to what someone else said above, I (and my church warden who watched it with me) thought it was LOL hilarious from start to finish: some great lines and (another comparison with true greatness) the sequence where he was moving in on the head teacher at the party with his comedy moustache dangling off reminded me of Peter Sellers doing Clouseau (I can give no higher compliment).
So, I think Tom Hollander is a great comic actor (I already did having seen In the Loop but more so now) and the fact that he could spin on a dime and give that incredibly moving performance at the end blew me away. It's also a tribute to the writing of course but wasn't that a great dramatic moment?
Which leads me to +Pete's point which I am now going to take to purg...
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Paul.
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Quite sad and very funny (oh my word - the dancing!) a fitting end to the first season.
I've been thinking about why Pete thinks it's not a very flattering picture of the CofE. Someone cleverer than me said that great sitcoms, certainly great British sitcoms, are usually about characters that are trapped in a situation. Adam is "trapped" by choice - a choice he almost rejects and yet finally re-affirms in last night's episode - in a situation that is frustrating, difficult, thankless and seems all but pointless much of the time. We warm to Adam because he's a nice guy trying to the right thing and because we sympathise with him.
But the situation he's in that's trapping him is the Church of England (as portrayed not necessarily as she really is) - and I'm no more attracted to that than I am to want to share Blackadder's trench.
I'd go for a beer with Adam but I'm not sure St Saviour's would tempt me back to church.
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quote: Originally posted by dj_ordinaire: Oh. My. God.
It's us!
Just rewatching it - you're right! It's our copy!
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angelica37
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I'm not sure whether I liked the last episode or not, there was a bit too much of the F word and I didn't like Adam's treatment of Alex and the headteacher. That didn't seem true to the character, even going through a crisis of faith I'd have expected his love for Alex and innate good manners to have stayed with him.
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I laughed through the whole series, but the Isaiah 6:8 bit? That had me in tears. [ 03. August 2010, 08:17: Message edited by: Earwig ]
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Last nights episode was a bit too close to home...and therefore was brilliant. Held a light up to stuff. Brought me to tears.
I can't see there being another series - where could you go from there? But I want another series...
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quote: Originally posted by angelica37: I'm not sure whether I liked the last episode or not, there was a bit too much of the F word and I didn't like Adam's treatment of Alex and the headteacher. That didn't seem true to the character, even going through a crisis of faith I'd have expected his love for Alex and innate good manners to have stayed with him.
I enjoyed the episode but I do agree with you. While the sitting at home in dejection bits seemed 'real', some of his other reactions seemed unlikely. Drunkenly trying to flirt with Ellie was one thing, but I found it hard to believe that he would have tried to invite her out to lunch while stone cold sober. And even if he was mad enough to think that the Tarts and Vicars party was a good idea, I don't think Ellie and Nigel would really have pursued the idea (although my goodness, didn't Nigel embrace the tat?) Given that the rest of the series has been so quietly honest about people and their real strengths and weaknesses, it did feel a little overblown and heading into Dibley slapstick territory.
I suppose the truth is that many a meltdown, personal or spiritual, has far more mundane manifestations that would be rather dull to portray in either a drama or comedy. So I guess there needed to be some 'big' moments. Fortunately there were still enough of the gentle touches to redeem it - his extended 'Why?' prayer in the church, Alex's comment about Adam believing in God but being unsure that God believed in him, and the recollection of his ordination and attendance to duty even when he was still in a lot of conflict being the most touching.
Overall, the last episode wasn't perfect, but I've loved the series, and it's been such a relief to see a portrayal of Christianity that is honest about the flaws of both people and institutions, but not in a derogatory way.
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quote: Originally posted by angelica37: I'm not sure whether I liked the last episode or not, there was a bit too much of the F word and I didn't like Adam's treatment of Alex and the headteacher. That didn't seem true to the character, even going through a crisis of faith I'd have expected his love for Alex and innate good manners to have stayed with him.
People who are cracking up do all sorts of things that are out of character. It was also out of character for him to tell Colin not to come round to the vicarage any more.
Very brave to show clergy burnout in all its unglorious, gory detail.
I also thought the sub plot - where Colin proves to be better at impersonating a vicar than Adam is - was wonderfully subtle.
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Tangent Alert Cadfael, I agree with you very much. The other compulsary viewing for ordinands should be "A bed among the lentils" in Alan Bennets Talking Head series! Also usefull for the intended significant others of any priests to be.
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Alex Cockell
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quote: Originally posted by angelica37: I'm not sure whether I liked the last episode or not, there was a bit too much of the F word and I didn't like Adam's treatment of Alex and the headteacher. That didn't seem true to the character, even going through a crisis of faith I'd have expected his love for Alex and innate good manners to have stayed with him.
Adam was VERY drunk by that point in the evening, and was seen to be mostly on shorts iirc. Almost drunk enough to risk being arrested for being Drunk And Disordeely, hence his initial reaction to the police.
If he was sober, your point would stand.
precedent for how pissed he gets was set in ep 1 and 5 ("swift one" then cut to table groaning with empties - I'd guess about 8 pints each and on 9th).
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Did I miss a bit? I did not see him agonising over who had written the Mystery Worshipper report.
Was there a stranger in Church? Or is it Nigel or the Archdeacon? [ 03. August 2010, 10:53: Message edited by: The Weeder ]
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quote: Originally posted by angelica37: I'm not sure whether I liked the last episode or not, there was a bit too much of the F word and I didn't like Adam's treatment of Alex and the headteacher. That didn't seem true to the character, even going through a crisis of faith I'd have expected his love for Alex and innate good manners to have stayed with him.
Personally I really didn't like Alex's treatment of Adam. He was obviously going through a terrible time and she was just flippant, jokey and patronising up to the party. And then at the end when he was the worse for wear she had no sense of damage control, she just let him embarrass himself and then told him to fuck off. Surely she should have got him out of the party as soon as she could see where it was going (the Headmistress' warning) and helped him home. Pushing a drunk, self-destructive, crisis-ridden husband off into the night so she can continue a party stuck me as an incredibly selfish thing to do. And possibly inconsistent character-writing after last week's episode where she was saying she wanted to be his friend as well as his wife etc.
Her attitude stank IMO - she treated Adam's major crisis of faith as 'oh, well, here we go again'. Maybe she's got bored by his emotional problems after however long they've been married. Especially if it's a bi-annual thing as she says. But perhaps that's part of the problem - why this crisis hit so hard and why Adam feels so lonely. Alex just isn't there for him emotionally anymore. Perhaps if, instead of just standing across the room and making light of his problems, she sat down beside him and gave him a nice hug once or twice, his crisis wouldn't have been so bad.
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amber.
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quote: Originally posted by Hawk: quote: Originally posted by angelica37: ...I didn't like Adam's treatment of Alex and the headteacher....
Personally I really didn't like Alex's treatment of Adam. ... Perhaps if, instead of just standing across the room and making light of his problems, she sat down beside him and gave him a nice hug once or twice, his crisis wouldn't have been so bad.
Glad it's not just me who was gobsmacked by Alex's attitude. I know she was trying to cope with him making a pass at the headmistress in later scenes, but even earlier she appeared to be belittling him at a time when he desperately needed a friend.
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Paul.
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Actually I think the Alex-Adam dynamic, and its problems, would be the perfect place to explore in season 2.
For example last night there was the implication that she is actually succeeding in helping people in her job. There's some tension there.
quote: Originally posted by Hawk: Her attitude stank IMO - she treated Adam's major crisis of faith as 'oh, well, here we go again'. Maybe she's got bored by his emotional problems after however long they've been married. Especially if it's a bi-annual thing as she says.
It's been left open but the hints are that she's not actual a believer herself. If that's the case then I think his crisis of faith - particularly if it's a regular event - could become pretty tiresome, especially if accompanied by the kind of childishness he showed here.
Also, despite being more naturalistic in many ways, there is more than a hint of that sitcom staple - the silly husband with the sensible wife who mothers him.
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Paul.
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Meant to add: not just tiresome per se, but tiresome because she can't fully empathise with it.
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daisymay
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quote: Originally posted by Alex Cockell: quote: Originally posted by angelica37: I'm not sure whether I liked the last episode or not, there was a bit too much of the F word and I didn't like Adam's treatment of Alex and the headteacher. That didn't seem true to the character, even going through a crisis of faith I'd have expected his love for Alex and innate good manners to have stayed with him.
Adam was VERY drunk by that point in the evening, and was seen to be mostly on shorts iirc. Almost drunk enough to risk being arrested for being Drunk And Disordeely, hence his initial reaction to the police.
If he was sober, your point would stand.
precedent for how pissed he gets was set in ep 1 and 5 ("swift one" then cut to table groaning with empties - I'd guess about 8 pints each and on 9th).
And he somehow seemed to be sober again when he went with the policeman and prayed for/with that woman...
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Earwig
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quote: Originally posted by daisymay: [QUOTE]And he somehow seemed to be sober again when he went with the policeman and prayed for/with that woman...
ISTM that he the shock of it all sobered him up.
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He had just got a Subway sandwich (probably a footlong) down him... so that mahy have helped soak up the booze a bit.
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quote: Originally posted by Chapelhead: .....there was at least one line that would make an excellent SOF sig.
quote: Who are these sad, green-ink losers, typing away in their underpants, sniping at people, without the guts to actually declare themselves?
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quote: A tiny clique of virtual god’s bods with nothing better to do.
Alex hit a couple of nails very firmly on the head.
Archdeacon Robert ('The Dark Lord') didn't like getting a taste of his own sarcastic medicine: quote: You have literally no idea how I spend my evenings.
But I have a sneaking feeling, as his character has developed, that he probably does something surprisingly worthwhile.
And I wonder, if there was a particular vicar on whom Colin based his impersonation.....
Adam's angst is too terrifyingly familiar, with that wonderfully clever line in the school assembly: quote: Jesus isn't always the answer to everything.
The final scene.....
A brilliant end to the series, but I hope it's not the end of it all.
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Where there is tea there is hope.
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Sandemaniac
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quote: Originally posted by Alex Cockell: He had just got a Subway sandwich (probably a footlong) down him... so that may have helped soak up the booze a bit.
Ah yes - Subway, the Cut-Me-Own-Throat Dibbler of the High Street. One of those would definitely cut through the booze!
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I thought it was a kebab.
-------------------- Chad (The + is silent)
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Like others here, I was a bit moist eyed in the closing scenes of last night's episode. In my experience, it's rare for TV to get into the bone and marrow of religious faith, how it feels from the inside, and this was a pretty wonderful exception to all that.
When Adam turned and looked out into the darkness to remind himself of the words of Isaiah 6, I felt all sorts of things (including wistfulness at having turned down the chance to be a Rev myself once), but I also admired the architects of Rev for daring to do this with a comic character, even one who's gained such dramatic depth over the past few weeks.
I've written a bit more about it over here.
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Last night I went from laugh-out-loud (Nigel dancing with Adam) to the verge of tears (the scenes with the policeman and the dying woman).
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quote: Originally posted by +Chad: I thought it was a kebab.
Me too.
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