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Originally posted by The Rogue:
I watched Jon Pertwee, Tom Baker and Peter Davison re-generate and did not expect any of them.

I remember Colin Baker being introduced on Blue Peter before Peter Davison regenerated. Sylvester McCoy was also introduced on Blue Peter before his first appearance.

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Originally posted by Heavenly Anarchist:
...I've never really seen a romance element in Clara and Matt Smith's Doctor, they appear purely platonic to me. She tells her parents he's her boyfriend to get them off her back, she asks him to do it as a friend. Hence her so shocked by his nakedness. It's one of the things I like about Clara, I see her as a return to the traditional companion.

She admitted to staying around because she secretly fancied him (I think that was the phrase) when they first encountered people in Christmas.

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Originally posted by Heavenly Anarchist:
...I've never really seen a romance element in Clara and Matt Smith's Doctor, they appear purely platonic to me. She tells her parents he's her boyfriend to get them off her back, she asks him to do it as a friend. Hence her so shocked by his nakedness. It's one of the things I like about Clara, I see her as a return to the traditional companion.

She admitted to staying around because she secretly fancied him (I think that was the phrase) when they first encountered people in Christmas.
I hadn't noticed that. Well, I guess/I'm hoping that will be nipped in the bud by the new Doctor.

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Does anyone know if "The Five(ish) Doctors" is going to come out on DVD? It would be great if it is, but it hasn't even been on main TV yet, as far as I know.

And now to revert to my normal ming-mong carping. I'm also getting a little bored with the "golden shower" regenerations. And did anyone else notice that the Doctor lied while in the truth field? Once when the little boy asks him if he has a plan, the Doctor says yes, and then turns to Clara and admits he hasn't. And possibly again when he promises Clara he won't send her away again just before he does.

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Originally posted by Robert Armin:
And did anyone else notice that the Doctor lied while in the truth field? Once when the little boy asks him if he has a plan, the Doctor says yes, and then turns to Clara and admits he hasn't. And possibly again when he promises Clara he won't send her away again just before he does.

On the second one, I think he and Clara were in the TARDIS and it had already arrived at her home--so they were no longer in the truth field. And, technically, he didn't "send" her away: he ran away from her.

But, yes, I wondered the same thing about the "plan" comment. It did seem to be a direct fib. The only (lame) explanation I can come up with is that he then designates as a "plan" the concept of showing up, hoping for the best and taking credit. So he had a "plan"--it was the non-plan plan.

Please note that I already admitted that that is lame. I will cheerfully accept better explanations.

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Just watched it again. Still a few things to dislike (mainly the naked bits) and a lot of things to love.

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quote:
Originally posted by Hedgehog:
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Armin:
And did anyone else notice that the Doctor lied while in the truth field? Once when the little boy asks him if he has a plan, the Doctor says yes, and then turns to Clara and admits he hasn't. And possibly again when he promises Clara he won't send her away again just before he does.

On the second one, I think he and Clara were in the TARDIS and it had already arrived at her home--so they were no longer in the truth field. And, technically, he didn't "send" her away: he ran away from her.

But, yes, I wondered the same thing about the "plan" comment. It did seem to be a direct fib. The only (lame) explanation I can come up with is that he then designates as a "plan" the concept of showing up, hoping for the best and taking credit. So he had a "plan"--it was the non-plan plan.

Please note that I already admitted that that is lame. I will cheerfully accept better explanations.

Re the sending away bit I noted the 'again' particularly and took it to be a way of answering truly about the future rather than the immediate act but ambigious enough to reassure her then.

Another vote for the disappointment party. It was as if all resources, ideas and plots went into the anniversary piece and Christmas was cold turkey and stuffing.

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Originally posted by Robert Armin:
Does anyone know if "The Five(ish) Doctors" is going to come out on DVD? It would be great if it is, but it hasn't even been on main TV yet, as far as I know.

I'm keeping an eye on that as I want a copy myself but so far haven't found any indications that a DVD might happen. I've tried playing the iPlayer link meanwhile, but for whatever reason, I can't get any picture, only the sound, like listening to it on radio.

I get the impression this one is being played down in case it overshadows the Anniversary Special - possibly because it's funnier and better put together. But who knows, maybe they'll put both on a DVD at some point, which would be great.

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Originally posted by Rosa Winkel:
The Cyberman-head dying scene wasn't emotional for me, I mean, he had only appeared that episode and I can't get too emotionally attached to a Cyberman part.

For the poor old Cyberman himself, I agree, though I would have kind of liked to see a bit more of him. It was the Doctor's reaction that got me - trying to make him 'comfortable', and fighting back tears as he finally 'died' - as if it was making him fully realise his aloneness.

Re-watching yesterday, the exchange immediately after that leapt out at me:-
'Why did you send me away?'
'Because if I hadn't I would have buried you a long time ago.'
In that context, following immediately from the loss of a sort-of 'companion', and with the sunset in the background, somehow all the centuries of loneliness and loss were in those few words - reminiscent of Nine's 'You can spend the rest of your life with me, but I can't spend the rest of my life with you'.

Who wants to live forever? (Well, despite all that, apparently he does, as he seems delighted to have a new set of regenerations)

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quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Armin:
Does anyone know if "The Five(ish) Doctors" is going to come out on DVD? It would be great if it is, but it hasn't even been on main TV yet, as far as I know.

I'm keeping an eye on that as I want a copy myself but so far haven't found any indications that a DVD might happen. I've tried playing the iPlayer link meanwhile, but for whatever reason, I can't get any picture, only the sound, like listening to it on radio.

I get the impression this one is being played down in case it overshadows the Anniversary Special - possibly because it's funnier and better put together. But who knows, maybe they'll put both on a DVD at some point, which would be great.

I was able to watch it using the link helpfully provided a little further up on this thread. I really wish they would put out a DVD with all the anniversary material on it, including this, but it seems unlikely.

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Thanks, Trudy. That link doesn't work for me either: just sound, no picture and no option to choose "lower bandwidth". Hopefully they'll bring out a DVD one of these days.
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Just watched the regeneration scene. It was when the Doctor threw his bowtie on the floor that set me off.

It's a good thing that Capaldi's kept his accent for the Doctor.

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Originally posted by Rosa Winkel:
Just watched the regeneration scene. It was when the Doctor threw his bowtie on the floor that set me off.

Yes. [Frown]
And I was just starting to recover when someone pointed me to this . (From about 7:30 - warning, may induce [Waterworks] )

It's a good thing that Capaldi's kept his accent for the Doctor.

Yes again.

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The episode was a bit disappointing. To long and not as tight as they normally are. I agree it is great that Peter C kept his accent.

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What accent? I didn't notice one.
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Very slightly Scottish.

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Haha! Thanks to Kelly Alves and her BBC America on demand, I'm caught up with the episodes now and can join this thread! First, I must go back and read it... [Yipee]

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I've just been watching Death comes to Pemberley, and am impressed with Jenna-Louise Coleman as Lydia. I hope they use her range more in Dr Who.
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I've just been watching Death comes to Pemberley, and am impressed with Jenna-Louise Coleman as Lydia. I hope they use her range more in Dr Who.

Re-watch The Snowmen. She's excellent in that. But she's been given absolutely terrible scripts in the series - they've been slotting her into Generic Female Companion and not giving Clara a personality.

As for the Christmas Special, to borrow from a friend it was an experiment to see what happened when you combined a literal plot hole (the Crack) with a literal Deus Ex Machina (the Papal Mainframe).

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quote:
Originally posted by Justinian:
As for the Christmas Special, to borrow from a friend it was an experiment to see what happened when you combined a literal plot hole (the Crack) with a literal Deus Ex Machina (the Papal Mainframe).

I would have thought that the Mainframe was more deus IN machina ? [Two face] Usually it is the Doctor who appears, god-like, out of his machina...

Daughter and I have been worried by the lack of teeth in Clara's lines through the last series - the whole 'Impossible Girl' strand tended to leave her as a question not an answer. She had a better role in the anniversary episode, and was a contrast to Billie Piper's 'not-Rose' character. Let's see where the next episodes, many months hence, take us.

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Daughter and I have been worried by the lack of teeth in Clara's lines...

Thank you for that delightful turn of phrase. [Big Grin] The mental image here of a toothless young actress phtruggling to pronounth her lineth ith one that will thay with me for a while now...
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Originally posted by Rev per Minute:
Daughter and I have been worried by the lack of teeth in Clara's lines...

Thank you for that delightful turn of phrase. [Big Grin] The mental image here of a toothless young actress phtruggling to pronounth her lineth ith one that will thay with me for a while now...
Thorry, mutht hath been the vithit to the dentitht latht week!
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We suffered the same as Tubbs, with the recording ending just as he was about to regenerate - must have been running late. That means I haven't watched it through again, as I didn't have a complete recording, and didn't want to have to hop over to iPlayer for the last couple of minutes. So my thoughts are all first impressions, albeit filtered through a long period of rumination.

First, the plot - this is probably heresy, but I actually thought it worked well. It tied up multiple loose ends which had been left dangling over the last few years, and managed to be more or less coherent. Letting Matt Smith get rapidly older was the perfect farewell to a brilliant actor, and he more than did it justice. The Truth Field was a fairly clunky way of forcing The Doctor to stay there for so long, but it all fitted quite well, and the massed baddies were much less egregious than I'd been expecting. I can't believe Moffat had this in mind back when he first introduced the crack, but it stood up pretty well.

That's the good, now the bad - is it too much to ask that we could occasionally have a Christmas special that doesn't revolve around some ridiculous Victorian snow-covered cliche of Christmas? When they're even calling the fucking town Christmas, it's time to put down the Dickens and step away slowly. And please, no more mawkish, self-indulgent regenerations - "not as long as Tennant's" is up there with "not as evil as Hitler" on the scale of damnation with faint praise. If you're going, have the decency to die quickly, rather than poisoning my final memory of the character with cloying, excessive sentimentality.

And the ugly - yes, it's the stupid turkey and nudity thing again. I know it's silly "for the kiddies" material, but it was gratingly and gratuitously stupid, and gave the impression that Clara is a total airhead without even the most basic cookery skills (or even the sense to ask someone else) and the Doctor ought to be interviewed as part of Operation Yewtree. Down with this sort of thing!

But the thing that really grated is this - if the regeneration limit is now firmly established as canon, and if 11/12/13/Smith's Doctor* knew that he was on his last turn, as he clearly did, the sweet little chat between him and Not-4 at the end of the anniversary special makes no sense. Not-4 was dropping hints that he was a future regeneration as authority to tell him what to do, so how did Smith think that regeneration was going to happen? Why not comment on that at any point? And why did Not-4 tell him (or rather, pointedly not tell him) to find the Time Lords if that was the one thing he absolutely must not do on this occasion? I enjoyed it very much at the time, but it's tarnished by this unambiguous demonstration that it was just nonsensical fanservice.

I'm interested and slightly concerned by Capaldi's brief appearance, and especially his implied threat to steal Clara's kidneys if his own hadn't started working. I was put in mind of Baker(C), so I do hope someone knows what they're doing. Please don't make the Doctor into a total git.


* - I vote for maintaining the historic numbering, with Hurt classified as either 8a or X, and a grudging acknowledgement that Tennant was both 10 and 10a thanks to handwavy jiggerypokery.

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I can't believe Moffat had this in mind back when he first introduced the crack, but it stood up pretty well.

I just started re-watching Matt Smith's run, and I think it is pretty clear that the point of the crack altered over (ahem) time. It was in Amelia's bedroom, announcing "Prisoner Zero has escaped"--apparently through the crack. And on the other side of the crack was the Big Eyeball aliens.

Then the crack became the universal memory-wiper, so that people who fell into it were forgotten. Oh, and then we found a blown up bit of the TARDIS even though nobody seems to have forgotten the TARDIS. So "the other side" of the crack was no fixed point. It either took you to NeverNeverLand, or you could reach through time to when the TARDIS exploded.

And then we learned that the cracks were because the TARDIS went kablooey.

So was the Gallifrey crack the same crack or just happened (coincidentally) to look like it? Gallifrey clearly was NOT on the other side calling for assistance when we first saw the crack--the Big Eyeballs were. And the Doctor was near enough to it many times to listen to it and did not get any distress call.

So I am going with the theory that it is just "another crack" that Gallifrey is behind and not the same crack.

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I can't believe Moffat had this in mind back when he first introduced the crack, but it stood up pretty well.

I just started re-watching Matt Smith's run, and I think it is pretty clear that the point of the crack altered over (ahem) time. It was in Amelia's bedroom, announcing "Prisoner Zero has escaped"--apparently through the crack. And on the other side of the crack was the Big Eyeball aliens.
Yes, it would take a monumental stretch to believe that this had anything to do with how it was eventually explained.
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So I am going with the theory that it is just "another crack" that Gallifrey is behind and not the same crack.
But I'm not having this, saving some clever wordplay about how Moffat imagined them as serving different purposes. In story, the crack is quite clearly the same, because it has the exact same shape, a distinctive shape which has already been held up as evidence that the different cracks ever since the first Prisoner Zero thing have been manifestations of the same rift in space/time.

The Time Lords weren't shouting through that rift, true, but that was then and there. In fact, at that point they possibly hadn't been locked in their pocket universe, depending on how you untangle the mess of timelines. The crack is both specific to location and time, and also throughout the whole of reality, so I can allow a lot of flexibility in when and where that all happens. IIRC, they found that one crack which opened up in Christmas, Trenzalore, and just stuck there for hundreds of years, waiting for an answer.

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So I am going with the theory that it is just "another crack" that Gallifrey is behind and not the same crack.

The Doctor explained this in Time of the Doctor. The TARDIS blew up the universe creating all the cracks in space and time. (The cracks are like wormholes without walls - so it's possible to travel from one crack to another, but you're more likely to fall out the middle.) Then later on the Time Lords looking for a weak spot in the wall of the universe found a left-over crack and tried to come through the left-over crack.
Then Madame Kovarian decided to stop the Doctor getting to Trenzalore and went back in time to blow up the TARDIS, creating the cracks in the first place. She was trying to change her own history so creating an ontological paradox was especially likely.

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<Hedgehog thumps forehead with palm of hand>

Oh, of course! How could I have missed that?!?!

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I'm interested and slightly concerned by Capaldi's brief appearance, and especially his implied threat to steal Clara's kidneys if his own hadn't started working. I was put in mind of Baker(C), so I do hope someone knows what they're doing. Please don't make the Doctor into a total git.

Baker(C) may have lacked the humour of Baker (T) but he was far from a Git. Bad writing and bad companions were his downfall. Without those elements we could have a very good, but serious, Doctor. But knowing how good Capaldi (P) is at comedy, I doubt he will be too serious.

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Originally posted by The Great Gumby:
I'm interested and slightly concerned by Capaldi's brief appearance, and especially his implied threat to steal Clara's kidneys if his own hadn't started working. I was put in mind of Baker(C), so I do hope someone knows what they're doing. Please don't make the Doctor into a total git.

Baker(C) may have lacked the humour of Baker (T) but he was far from a Git. Bad writing and bad companions were his downfall. Without those elements we could have a very good, but serious, Doctor. But knowing how good Capaldi (P) is at comedy, I doubt he will be too serious.
If you're a fan of the Big Finish audios then you do get to see how the character of the sixth doctor develops. There's a reason old sixie was voted the favourite audio doctor.

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Several people, myself included, have been saying that it's time for Moff to go, and that maybe Gatiss should take over from him. On that line, did anyone else see the MR James' ghost story that Gatiss directed, on Christmas Day? It turns out to be his first stab at direction (which means he is unlikely to get such a high profile as Who) and I didn't think it was terribly good (which makes me hope he won't get Who). The documentary afterwards about James was much better.

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I may be wrong, but it looks like we now have a photo of the Capaldi Doctor in costume(scroll down to the second Dec. 7 entry).

Well, it is either that, or Capaldi REALLY gets dressed up for rehearsals.

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quote:
Originally posted by Hedgehog:
I may be wrong, but it looks like we now have a photo of the Capaldi Doctor in costume(scroll down to the second Dec. 7 entry).

Well, it is either that, or Capaldi REALLY gets dressed up for rehearsals.

He is looking rather dapper. I wouldn't mind that coat myself.

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quote:
Originally posted by Heavenly Anarchist:
quote:
Originally posted by Hedgehog:
I may be wrong, but it looks like we now have a photo of the Capaldi Doctor in costume(scroll down to the second Dec. 7 entry).

Well, it is either that, or Capaldi REALLY gets dressed up for rehearsals.

He is looking rather dapper. I wouldn't mind that coat myself.
Ooh ... I so hate to do this ... but isn't that the Eleventh Doctor's costume, which Twelve is presumably still wearing post-regeneration?

Sorry, really sorry ... but it does mean we can expect pics of the new costume any day now.

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quote:
Originally posted by Adeodatus:
Ooh ... I so hate to do this ... but isn't that the Eleventh Doctor's costume, which Twelve is presumably still wearing post-regeneration?

That's what I thought. Matt Smith ran round Eleventh Hour in Tennant's suit frayed at the edges.

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quote:
Originally posted by Adeodatus:
Ooh ... I so hate to do this ... but isn't that the Eleventh Doctor's costume, which Twelve is presumably still wearing post-regeneration?

Sorry, really sorry ... but it does mean we can expect pics of the new costume any day now.

Geez. My biorhythms must be at an all-time low. I believe you are right and I should have caught that. Pity, really, because that is a good look for him.

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Pity, really, because that is a good look for him.

Better than on Matt Smith's Doctor, who I think should have stayed in the tweed suit.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Hedgehog:
Pity, really, because that is a good look for him.

Better than on Matt Smith's Doctor, who I think should have stayed in the tweed suit.
Yes, I agree with both of you. I thought it was similar to Matt Smith's styling but hadn't twigged it was the same suit. I prefer the tweed jacket on him.

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The BBC (quoted in the Guardian) said that that is not costume.

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They mean that's what Peter Capaldi normally wears?
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quote:
Originally posted by Robert Armin:
Several people, myself included, have been saying that it's time for Moff to go, and that maybe Gatiss should take over from him. On that line, did anyone else see the MR James' ghost story that Gatiss directed, on Christmas Day? It turns out to be his first stab at direction (which means he is unlikely to get such a high profile as Who) and I didn't think it was terribly good (which makes me hope he won't get Who). The documentary afterwards about James was much better.

Yes I did see it. I thought it was OK, but without knowing the original story, I have no idea how well he did from that starting point. But it was underwhelming, given how much the Radio Times had plugged it.

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I do love that Clara is wearing a jumper with lots of bow ties on it though.... cool!

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quote:
Originally posted by Rosa Winkel:
The BBC (quoted in the Guardian) said that that is not costume.

The BBC, as quoted in the Guardian, said that's not the Doctor's new costume. My italics.

How is that not the costume the Doctor was wearing when Smith regenerated into Capaldi? Jenna-Louise Coleman is wearing in the photo what Clara was wearing in that scene.

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Has anyone heard a rumour that the Master may be back played by Charles Dance?

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quote:
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How is that not the costume the Doctor was wearing when Smith regenerated into Capaldi? Jenna-Louise Coleman is wearing in the photo what Clara was wearing in that scene.

An unexplored side effect of regeneration is that the regeneratee's clothes also change shape to match the new body perfectly. Except for rings (cf. Hartnell -> Troughton).
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quote:
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Has anyone heard a rumour that the Master may be back played by Charles Dance?

I have now.

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quote:
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Has anyone heard a rumour that the Master may be back played by Charles Dance?

for one insane moment I thought that read "the Master may be back played by Charlie Drake" [Ultra confused]

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[Killing me] not so much 'Hello sweetie' then...

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No, just "Hello my darlings..."
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Sparrow:
Has anyone heard a rumour that the Master may be back played by Charles Dance?

I have now.
That would be amazing.

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I don't think there's much in it. It was a fan speculation back in November that people seem to think has some truth in it.

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