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Stumbling Pilgrim
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Surprised nobody's posted this yet - or maybe that's because everyone but me is doing something useful with their time.
Enjoy! (I trust that's not the new costume either ... ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif) )
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Pine Marten
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Oo-er, I'm getting excited ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif) - when's the new series starting?
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Eigon
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I've been spending my time listening to some of the adventures of the Eighth Doctor from Big Finish. Max Warp was fun, in particular, basically being Top Gear with space ships, complete with sexist, un-politically correct presenter and a co-presenter called the Ferret.
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Ariel
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We've had a couple of links to that upthread, I believe. I can't load any of them: all I get is the sound.
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Adeodatus
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Did anyone catch this evening's opening episode of The Musketeers, with Peter Capaldi as Cardinal Richlieu? Confirmed my impression that he is a serious actor - intense, subtle, and sometimes not a little scary.
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Dafyd
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I'm planning to watch it on iplayer later in the week. It wouldn't be the first time the Doctor's had an evil double in Renaissance France.
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Jay-Emm
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Originally posted by Adeodatus:
Did anyone catch this evening's opening episode of The Musketeers, with Peter Capaldi as Cardinal Richlieu? Confirmed my impression that he is a serious actor - intense, subtle, and sometimes not a little scary.
Not sure what to make of it, there were times when I thought it had changed things trying to be funny/dark/'adult'/etc and succeeding well but not as well as if they'd kept to the book (perhaps telling what was shown in the book) at the equivalent point.
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Ariel
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Yes, I saw that and enjoyed it – some of it was a good laugh. Not quite sure what direction it’s going in, but Peter Capaldi was pleasingly evil. It bodes well for the new series.
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Pine Marten
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I quite enjoyed it too. They said that it wasn't based on the Dumas stories but were new ones, but that's ok. It was fun, easily watchable Sunday evening entertainment (some nice eye candy ![[Biased]](wink.gif) ) and Capaldi was nicely villainous.
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Penny S
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As the Guardian reviewer suggested, it appears aimed at the same demographic as Merlin and Atlantis. Plus 40 year odd TV reviewers.
So that's at least three young male targeted series, more if you add in Sherlock and Who.
I would welcome something for the Buffy audience - and since some writers have been heard to say that they admire Whedon, I don't see why they can't do it. That audience may like the male eye candy, but we have already been shown the outcome for the women in the stories.
Fidelma, maybe? Or the adventures of the young Cartimandua, a completely open field? Or the story of the Lady of the Mercians (checked out with Michael Wood)? There must be something out there for the grubby buckling of swashes with decent parts for women.
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Ariel
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It's probably just an iPad thing. The main part of the page has a black background with text in white letters.
I'm not convinced by the pose either.
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Dafyd
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Guardian: same photo but larger.
When I go to the BBC page I linked to now, it's misbehaving as Firenze says.
[ 27. January 2014, 21:18: Message edited by: Dafyd ]
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Adeodatus
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Very nice. Hints of the first three Doctors, I thought. And is he wearing French cuffs and a cardigan? Superb! And Doc Marten brogues too. It's a lesson in how to have style without having a style.
But don't you think he looks a bit ... well ... dangerous?
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Ariel
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I can't work out whether the accompanying music is "You ain't nothing but a Time Lord" or "Let's do the Time Warp again".
Btw, the BBC page is still black with white text but the photo and article have disappeared. Time of page amendment, two minutes ago so presumably someone else found something amiss with it.
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Firenze
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OK, they've fixed it now.
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Penny S
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Don't like the trousers. Pity they can't have him in Richelieu's leathers.
Do like the jacket.
Back to 17th century France - the writers claim in Radio Times to have written strong part for women. Out of five so far, two are dead, and of the other three, if they do cling in any way to the original, two are going to be dead. Not that good, then. And all of them are exhibiting their individuality and strength by being sexually loose. (OK, the Queen hasn't misbehaved with Buckingham, yet, but has shown signs of adulterous thoughts.) I don't see that Dumas' women were all that different (in being mere eye-candy) - certainly not Milady de Winter.
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Rosa Winkel
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Apparently Doctor Who fans in the know are comparing the new look to Pertwee.
I believe it prudent to hold ones expectations about the new Doctor in check (well, speaking for myself anyway). I believe his class shown acting in previous roles are making expectations so high (I mean, Malcolm Tucker was an utterly excellent character, but nowhere near that of Doctor Who) that it's questionable whether they are realistic.
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Hedgehog
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Originally posted by Rosa Winkel:
Apparently Doctor Who fans in the know are comparing the new look to Pertwee.
I was picking up a hint of Pertwee, too, but I suspect that is, in part, because of the hair color. And they both have distinctive faces. Oh, and Pertwee, too, was made to pose in all sorts of stupid poses.
And, if my memory is working this morning, when Pertwee first started his clothes were pretty similar to the new costume. More sedate and restrained--but then they became more flamboyant over time, with ruffled shirts and green coats, etc., in part because Jon Pertwee could look elegant wearing almost anything.
Personally, I think I liked Capaldi more wearing Smith's last outfit, but if Doctor Who has taught me anything it is to wait and see. I have changed a number of my first impressions once I see the actual shows.
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Tubbs
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Originally posted by Adeodatus:
Very nice. Hints of the first three Doctors, I thought. And is he wearing French cuffs and a cardigan? Superb! And Doc Marten brogues too. It's a lesson in how to have style without having a style.
But don't you think he looks a bit ... well ... dangerous?
Knitted waist coat rather than a cardi?!
Very classy! Nods to the first three - particularly Troughton's comic hobo - and to 10 and 11. And Docs!!! Nine hundred year old one probably. Docs are the cockroach of shoes, survive anything!
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Sparrow
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quote:
Originally posted by Adeodatus:
Very nice. Hints of the first three Doctors, I thought. And is he wearing French cuffs and a cardigan? Superb! And Doc Marten brogues too. It's a lesson in how to have style without having a style.
But don't you think he looks a bit ... well ... dangerous?
Not dangerous .... stern maybe. But I like the jacket with the red lining.
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Ronald Binge
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Not keen on a closed collar with no tie, but I'm having that red lined Crombie!
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Pine Marten
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Good grief, I've just got an email from Amazon saying that season 8 with Capaldi is now available to order on dvd or Blu-ray - give the poor man time to settle into the Tardis!
...and yes, I *did* pre-order Sherlock season 3 before it aired...
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orfeo
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The coat is nice. The shoes look odd to me, but I'm funny about shoes. It won't matter much when he's in motion and I'm not studying his footwear intently.
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Hedgehog
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Capaldi gets the boot!
What? You thought I meant something else?
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M.
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Sort of spoiler alert.
Not sure anyone's mentioned this up to now?
New companion
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Rosa Winkel
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I concluded watching "The Evil of the Daleks" yesterday. It contained some absolutely boss moments, such as when a "human source" was added to some daleks, prompting them to start acting like children and questioning orders.
This video contains recon animation, but the original score is a delight.
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Hedgehog
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I am amused that stories 808 and 809 have rumored titles...but nobody confirmed to be writing them! I think it was Gervase Fen who decided to write a book called "A Manx Ca" because he liked the title--but he hadn't decided what the story would be about.
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Adeodatus
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Next series begins on 23 August - but is the Doctor a good man?
In other news, I finished my Tom Baker marathon the other day. Interesting experience. You can see him develop from being a good actor, trying out the character, to a confident "I am the Doctor" position, and then the arrogance starts kicking in. Even by his fourth season (Horror of Fang Rock to Invasion of Time) you can see him acting up and being a diva. By two years later (Destiny of the Daleks to Horns of Nimon) he's bored and being silly, and then in his last season he's worn out, looks depressed, and by partway through the season knows he's leaving. A great Doctor, though, if you can ignore his widely-alleged vile behaviour towards the people he worked with.
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Carys
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Next series begins on 23 August - but is the Doctor a good man?
So will Greenbelt screen it live somewhere? Or do those of us there have to wait till we get home (which in my case is over a week later)
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Adeodatus
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Originally posted by Carys:
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Originally posted by Adeodatus:
Next series begins on 23 August - but is the Doctor a good man?
So will Greenbelt screen it live somewhere? Or do those of us there have to wait till we get home (which in my case is over a week later)
Carys
I'm not a Greenbelty person, but I've a vague memory it's been done before. I'm sure you'll be able to find it somewhere - Shipmates with a laptop and BBC iplayer?
Meanwhile, the plot thickens. This new 'teaser' from the BBC looks like a colossal spoiler, so I assume there's more to it than meets the eye -
I see into your soul...
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I don't get how that can be a colossal spoiler.
Don't explain it to me, though, because maybe then it WILL be a colossal spoiler...
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Dafyd
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The actor doing the voiceover has appeared on Doctor Who before, or is doing a convincing impression.
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Paul.
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But surely... oh...
*realises there's no way to respond to this without meta-spoiling so backs carefully away*
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Pine Marten
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Ack, I've just watched it...no, it can't be... ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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orfeo
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The actor doing the voiceover has appeared on Doctor Who before, or is doing a convincing impression.
Yes, but people returning hardly counts as 'major spoiler' in my book. It's more like standard practice. Occasionally the writers seem more focused on bringing people/creatures back so the diehard fans can go all wiggy about it than on working out what to do with these characters once they're back.
Not that this is a new problem. Having now gone through 11 seasons of the 'classic' show, there have definitely been a few instances of "let's bring those guys back" that haven't been followed up with anyone asking "...why?".
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Ariel
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I don't get how that can be a colossal spoiler.
That is a spoiler??
![[Snore]](graemlins/snore.gif)
(Unless I've missed something other than the fracking obvious, of course.)
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Robert Armin
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Wasn't the version shown on TV longer than that? Somehow I was expecting a bit more.
(I've discovered I'm off on Retreat on the 23rd! That is going to be a real sacrifice.)
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Adeodatus
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quote:
Originally posted by Dafyd:
The actor doing the voiceover has appeared on Doctor Who before, or is doing a convincing impression.
Yes, but people returning hardly counts as 'major spoiler' in my book.
Does that mean we can talk about it now?
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Dafyd
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So - do you think there'll be any daleks in the upcoming series?
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Robert Armin
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If only there weren't! The Daleks are becoming as overused in nuWho, as the Master was back in Pertwee's era.
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Ariel
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You forgot to include the sonic screwdriver and lovelorn female assistant...
I'd love it if Captain Jack could come back for an episode.
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Robert Armin
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The sonic screwdriver is now something the show itself pokes fun at, so I don't mind it too much. Agree about the love interest though - and definitely about Captain Jack!
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Carys
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At last, a proper trailer - now we're talking!
Is it me, or did the Doctor say he'd lived for over 2000 years? I thought Matt Smith said he was 900 odd,so have 1000 years just happened for Peter Capaldi or what?
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Originally posted by Adeodatus:
At last, a proper trailer - now we're talking!
Is it me, or did the Doctor say he'd lived for over 2000 years? I thought Matt Smith said he was 900 odd,so have 1000 years just happened for Peter Capaldi or what?
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Early on, he may have said 900, but during the "OMG! They killed the Doctor!" season he wandered a lot and got to 1000-some odd (I forget the exact number. Let's say 1200.) Then, in his last episode, he was stuck in Christmas for hundreds of years (I think he may even have said 900 just for that)...so that would put the Doctor over 2000 now.
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