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tessaB
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As a 52yr old woman I really shouldn't be this excited about going to the cinema! But I am
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Adeodatus
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quote: Originally posted by tessaB: As a 52yr old woman I really shouldn't be this excited about going to the cinema! But I am
Yeah you should!
Balaam: jelly babies! I knew I'd forgotten something. Sod tomorrow's sermon, I need to find jelly bablies...
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Ariel
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Someone remind me what time it all kicks off on TV please?
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Firenze
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10 to 8, following Strictly.
Clashes with dinner, so will record it.
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Ariel
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Thanks. Will get a takeaway in beforehand.
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Adeodatus
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quote: Originally posted by Firenze: 10 to 8, following Strictly.
Clashes with dinner, so will record it.
Which means that if you want to recap "The Name of the Doctor" you need to start about 7pm ... and if you want to watch "The Night of the Doctor" too, about 10 to 7.
Not that anybody would be that fannish. No. Nobody I know would do that thing, nobody at all ...
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The Rogue
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I'm watching the Grand Prix qualifying session at the moment which is being delayed for rain. Will there be a knock-on effect on the schedule for the rest of the evening?
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Firenze
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quote: Originally posted by The Rogue: I'm watching the Grand Prix qualifying session at the moment which is being delayed for rain. Will there be a knock-on effect on the schedule for the rest of the evening?
Bound to be. The number of people who want to see murky pictures of a scalextric set in an what looks like an industrial estate in Wishaw as against monsters/time machines/exploding planets/pan-galactic war - no contest. I daresay they can bump the Dr Who episode into an afternoon slot in place of a rerun of 'Coast'.
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Palimpsest
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A rare opportunity to read this thread without spoilers for the Americans.
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Penny S
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Someone has flipping rung the phone! And with something that needed answering!
Like the scientist with the scarf!
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Pyx_e
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Oh my.
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Ariel
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Ooooooh...
Wonderful performance from John Hurt. If only he could have had his own series.
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ArachnidinElmet
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quote: Originally posted by Pyx_e: Oh my.
Seconded
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balaam
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Wow.
I was right to get the jelly babies.
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Alicïa
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Wow+ and I think it is a smart move to bring back Galifrey.
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The Rogue
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I loved it. Even Mrs Rogue liked it. And the Roguelings are buzzing.
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Gideon
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Fabulous! Funny, thrilling, little bit sad but uplifting. Absolutely loved it.
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Kitten
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Loved it
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TurquoiseTastic
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quote: Originally posted by Ariel: Ooooooh...
Wonderful performance from John Hurt. If only he could have had his own series.
He still could!
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Ikkyu
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My 9 year's old daughter thinks is the best she has seen. I also loved it.
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Pyx_e
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Tom Baker, sigh, weep.
Billy Piper very Dark very well done.
Doctors ...... funny, sad, clever.
Pyx_e, slightly overcome.
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Stumbling Pilgrim
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Just back from the cinema and still bouncing off the walls a bit! Trying to avoid spoilers, but a truly awesome climax - and an interesting new spin on 'reverse the polarity'. And I only ducked a few times - not as many times as I punched the air and whooped with delight!
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Penny S
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Having caught up, I think that was a thoroughly honourable piece. Respect due.
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Ariel
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John Hurt had the best lines, I think. And Billie Piper did sinister really well. Loved the in-jokes, even I got some of them.
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Palimpsest
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<Spoilers, although they happened earlier in the thread>
It was great. To not turn the occasion into an drawn out pompous self congratulations but instead to do a major retcon and wittily play off the multiple doctors made this a memorable episode.
So many questions. How does the Gallifrey retcon affect "The End of Time" episode they reran afterwards. What happened to the Time Lords and the Master by the retcon? Do they fall under the "split time streams" that affected the John Hurt Dr Who and remain unchanged? Do they still happen? Does the painting become Kandor? [ 23. November 2013, 20:51: Message edited by: Palimpsest ]
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Jack o' the Green
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Loved it. Good in jokes, fine acting - especially from John Hurt, and a nice bringing together of all the Doctors at the end.
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Albertus
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I'm not a Whovian, or whatever the term is, but does anyone know whether the 1946 Powell and Pressburger film A Matter of Life and Death was at all an influence on the original concept of Doctor Who? I'm thinking in particular of the character of the medic, played by Roger Livesey, whom we first see observing the village through a camera obscura in a pose rather like the Doctor at the controls of the Tardis, and the (very British) way that the everday and the extraordinary are blended. [ 23. November 2013, 20:54: Message edited by: Albertus ]
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Heavenly Anarchist
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Just got back from the cinema. Loved the interaction between the Doctors and all the in jokes. David Tennant typecast as a lothario was funny, as was the banter between him and Smith's Doctor. Clara was good and reminded me of Donna in challenging the Doctor's conscience, though a more gentler version.
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Jammy Dodger
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Had to watch at home rather than cinema but loved it all the same. Great fun and very clever. Some nice touches.
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The Rogue
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The party afterwards (UK) was a complete disaster but The Five(ish) Doctors was very funny.
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I enjoyed that. It was a suitable celebration of the 50th anniversary, which was the least it had to be. And it was a whole lot of fun as well, which was cool. Loved the interaction between the doctors, and the idea of "cup-a-soup".
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tessaB
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Just loved it!!! I admit I was a bit worried that it wouldn't live up to the hype but oh my word it lived up and then some. Happy, happy tessaB
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Jack o' the Green
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Loved it. Good in jokes, fine acting - especially from John Hurt, and a nice bringing together of all the Doctors at the end.
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Adeodatus
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Albertus, I'm not sure about direct influences (it's too many years since I saw A Matter of Life and Death) but I'd say it stands in the same tradition of British fantasy that includes such things as Narnia and Gormenghast - eccentric, charming, and scary, with a love of the English language and strong narrative. (I'm not sure I would quite include Tolkien in the same tradition - I think he was trying to do something different and more serious - but the Shire is very close.)
Tonight's episode was just beautiful. A bit messy in places, sure, but it was everything an anniversary story should be - above all, it was a celebration. I whooped when the Curator appeared, laughed at Ten and the rabbit, and was enthralled by every moment that John Hurt was on screen.
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art dunce
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Loved it. So 11 will die on Trenzalore and 12 will come from Hurt's 8.5 regeneration?
Son slightly disappointed since so much was made of Hurt being a warrior and he was hoping for a bit more of the dark days on Gallifrey and a little less chit chat in London.
Excited to see where this goes. [ 23. November 2013, 22:36: Message edited by: art dunce ]
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Hedgehog
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That was very satisfying. I was afraid when I heard that Rose would be included, but the way it was done was perfect and Billie Piper did herself proud. I in her general direction.
And Tennant and Smith should be put in a show together.
The story and dialogue were superb. I love a special with many quotable lines. Right now, I am going with "It's a scientific instrument, not a water pistol!" But I am sure I will quote other points as time goes on (the rabbit warning scene, for example).
quote: Originally posted by Palimpsest: <Spoilers, although they happened earlier in the thread>
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How does the Gallifrey retcon affect "The End of Time" episode they reran afterwards. What happened to the Time Lords and the Master by the retcon? Do they fall under the "split time streams" that affected the John Hurt Dr Who and remain unchanged? Do they still happen? Does the painting become Kandor?
The general (or whatever) mentioned that the High Council was in session. My guess is that the events from "The End of Time" were happening about the same time as this episode. The High Council there believed that Gallifrey was falling to the Daleks, just as it is doing in this episode. They use their stratagem to bring Gallifrey to Earth, but 10th frustrates the plan. That probably happened, ohhhhhh, about 1.278238 minutes (more or less) prior to the "moment in time" that Gallifrey is removed in this episode.
So, yeah, it happened. No retcon needed.
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The Revolutionist
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Fantastic! There were a few elements that didn't quite cohere and the Zygons kind of got forgotten, but it was great overall and nicely gives the show a new direction, moving on from the Doctor as the guilty-ridden "last of the Time Lords".
It also neatly opens the way for the return of the Master and the villainous High Council at some future point...
I went to a cinema showing, but it was a bit of a nightmare though. The projector wasn't working and it started around 40 minutes late, and only in 2D rather than 3D. It was also badly handled by the staff, who were less than understanding about why the screenful of Doctor Who fans were so upset, unfortunately. Rather marred the experience, but loved the actual episode when we got to watch it.
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PaulBC
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Just saw the program on the 1st Doctor a.k.a. William Hartnell left me a bit weepy. I remember seeing Dr.Who when it first aired in Canada . It was scarey, the theme and the Daleks. They were the first baddies I remember. Looking back at how they did the opening with 1 camera shooting into another, the way mod theme it was & is a great show. And some of its villens seem to show up on other shows under different names , cyberermen become Star Trek's Borg, another charecter looks like the Vogon from "A Hitch hikers Guide to the Universe " . Thank you BBC
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orfeo
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What I can't believe, given an episode that was ostensibly about the Time War, was how hilarious it was.
Honestly, for a large part of the first two-thirds I was positively shrieking with laughter. Most of David Tennant's solo segment (which did a lovely job of filling in some implied material from his own run), and then Tennant and Smith having a go at each other, and then Hurt having a go at both Tennant and Smith...
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Og: Thread Killer
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Spoilers
The best bit was the rabbit.
Anyways, it was nice to see them get rid of the major bit of angst that was placed in the show in order to make it appeal to modern audiences and bring hope back as a major force in why the Doctor does what he does.
Yes you did x. Do we need to spend every series arc talking about that x? Well, not anymore it seems.
I'm beginning to hope for this show.
I'm slightly disappointed that accent wasn't Scottish.
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Kaplan Corday
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I am not into this at all, but my wife is.
It's a bit like living with a JW or a Scientologist.
She and our eleven year-old grandson (another cult member) are just leaving (Sunday afternoon here)for the cinema, she dressed as a blue telephone box, and he with a red fez.
Bah, humbug!
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Kelly Alves
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Holy crap, that was-- Holy crap.
Adeodatus, will you please say something wise and erudite? I'm stuck right now.
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Kelly Alves
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quote: Originally posted by Hedgehog:
And Tennant and Smith should be put in a show together.
Don't they have wonderful chemistry?
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Stumbling Pilgrim
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quote: Originally posted by iamchristianhearmeroar: Twelve times awesome, no thirteen times awesome!
Yeah, how lovely was that? (For those who haven't seen it yet, take care not to miss anything at all during the final battle scene) [ 24. November 2013, 07:27: Message edited by: Stumbling Pilgrim ]
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Palimpsest
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I'm now wondering if they will sell a new model of the sonic screwdriver toy as used by the John Hurt Doctor. [ 24. November 2013, 07:31: Message edited by: Palimpsest ]
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