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pjkirk
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Originally posted by Jamat:
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PJKirk:your arguments were idiotic
If you want to discuss that further I'm happy to do so on the Noah's Flood thread in DH.
When you've been proven wrong 10 times from many diverse fields of study, why should I expect you to suddenly turn on the critical thinking switch for the 11th?
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pjkirk
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Originally posted by pjkirk:
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Originally posted by Jamat:
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PJKirk:your arguments were idiotic
If you want to discuss that further I'm happy to do so on the Noah's Flood thread in DH.
When you've been proven wrong 10 times from many diverse fields of study, why should I expect you to suddenly turn on the critical thinking switch for the 11th?
Hmm...thinking further. If my little silly idea is true, maybe you would be now convinceable. Hmm....
Too bad I'm not so gullible as to believe my own ideas that often.
[ 01. November 2010, 03:39: Message edited by: pjkirk ]
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infinite_monkey
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Can we please stop discussing what dumbasses various people on the Ship are and spend just a couple more minutes on the specific dumbassed-ness of the person honored on this thread?
I was gonna post this in Dead Horses, but I felt a bit more like Attacking the Person than Attacking the Issue here:
<walks in with intention to use Earth Logic in order to further positive debate about critical issues...> quote:
Originally posted by MerlintheMad: For instance, racial prejudice is never going to entirely vanish or even significantly diminish any further as long as sexual attraction is involved: simply because some races are repugnant in appearance...
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mousethief
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Originally posted by infinite_monkey:
<walks in with intention to use Earth Logic in order to further positive debate about critical issues...> quote:
Originally posted by MerlintheMad: For instance, racial prejudice is never going to entirely vanish or even significantly diminish any further as long as sexual attraction is involved: simply because some races are repugnant in appearance...
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Boogie
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You did well to walk out infinite_monkey - I thank God that I don't know amyone with such a repugnent and blatantly wrongheaded attitude as MtM's in RL.
![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
I suppose it's a reminder that such beliefs still exist.
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MtM - you show your bigotry and prejudice every time you post.
The only relief, to me, is that you are a tiny minority which will soon be extinct.
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orfeo
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I was going to try and give Merlin some credit and re-word that post to a 'what I meant was...'
Then realised that was probably giving more credit than was due. Half the reason that Dead Horses thread exists is because Merlin can't distinguish between the subjective "you don't do it for me personally" and the objective "you're inherently inferior".
[ 04. November 2010, 06:19: Message edited by: orfeo ]
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Originally posted by Boogie:
I thank God that I don't know amyone with such a repugnent and blatantly wrongheaded attitude as MtM's in RL.
Given that we're talking about a complete racist douchebag, d'ya think we could avoid acronyms that might lead people to associate that description with the wrong shipmate?
Please?
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Boogie
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
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Originally posted by Boogie:
I thank God that I don't know amyone with such a repugnent and blatantly wrongheaded attitude as MtM's in RL.
Given that we're talking about a complete racist douchebag, d'ya think we could avoid acronyms that might lead people to associate that description with the wrong shipmate?
Please?
Oh yes, I was referring to Merlinthemadracist - sorry Marvin!
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Porridge
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This
some races are repugnant in appearance
beggars belief. Well, actually, given the source, maybe not. What beggars belief is the fact that someone who not only manages to HOLD this view in this day and age and place is also clueless enough to express it.
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Mr Clingford
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
I thank God that I don't know amyone with such a repugnent and blatantly wrongheaded attitude as MtM's in RL.
Given that we're talking about a complete racist douchebag, d'ya think we could avoid acronyms that might lead people to associate that description with the wrong shipmate?
Please?
![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif) But as you're such a monstrous Tory, is it the wrong idea?
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Fuck off, clingfilm.
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Originally posted by pjkirk:
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Who knows...maybe I'll be the next crazy one?
Who knows...did you go off your meds, too?
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Porridge
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What a waste of bandwidth. The asshole drops the race-bomb, goes off for a bit while others express outrage, and then comes back to say, "Oh, dear me, no, not me -- I don't believe those dreadful things." Confront him with his own words and he claims that's not what he meant: "Those are the views of all kinds of other people." He does it over and over.
Merlin's not a homophobic twat -- it's all those OTHER people who are, and we might as well bow to the pressure they exert.
Merlin's not a racist turd -- it's all those OTHER people who are repelled by differing eye-folds or skin-color or skull-shapes.
He slides around from one position to another like ice cream on a car fender in a Death Valley heat wave, exhibiting all the sincerity of a starlet on a casting couch.
What a sneaky, mealy-mouthed, dishonest, manipulative creep.
[ 04. November 2010, 23:33: Message edited by: Apocalypso ]
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Sioni Sais
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I have just read Merlin's attempt to dig himself out of the racist hole he dug and then crawled into.
You've got to admire his persistence in attempting to maintain a position by restating it, without the more offensive terms, but he's outed himself, once and for all.
It won't be forgotten.
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Porridge
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On the other hand, it does seem to get ignored.
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Welease Woderwick
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Merlin, I don't know if you have been following this thread but just on the off-chance that you have I would ask if you remember the late 1970s, the era of Punk?
Do you perhaps remember John Cooper Clarke, the Punk Poet from Salford? He was well known for a while and still makes appearances on stage in Britain.
I am thinking of him as one of his more acidic works is about some poor unfortunate who was not particularly popular and who was attacked and lambasted from every side. It includes the line:
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They haven't got a good word for you, but I have...
...TWAT!
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orfeo
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What do you call it when someone uses irony - saying the opposite of what they mean - but it's not done for comic effect, it's just because of complete incompetence in constructing logical arguments?
Merlin's doing it at least a couple of times per post.
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Boogie
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Originally posted by orfeo:
What do you call it when someone uses irony - saying the opposite of what they mean - but it's not done for comic effect, it's just because of complete incompetence in constructing logical arguments?
Merlin's doing it at least a couple of times per post.
You don't call it anything, you just quietly despair and give up hope of ever understanding them.
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Porridge
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Oh, I don't know. Looks to me like various posters on this thread understand Merlin forwards, backwards, sideways, and inside out.
The "no understanding" clause applies to Merlin himself, and that's what we despair of.
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mousethief
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Originally posted by orfeo:
What do you call it when someone uses irony - saying the opposite of what they mean - but it's not done for comic effect, it's just because of complete incompetence in constructing logical arguments?
I don't know; if somebody is being ironic without intending to be, that's kind of ironic.
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orfeo
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Originally posted by mousethief:
quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
What do you call it when someone uses irony - saying the opposite of what they mean - but it's not done for comic effect, it's just because of complete incompetence in constructing logical arguments?
I don't know; if somebody is being ironic without intending to be, that's kind of ironic.
Meta-ironic?
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Lyda*Rose
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It's called "back pedaling".
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JoannaP
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![[brick wall]](graemlins/brick_wall.gif)
Three times I have asked Merlin whether he really thinks homophobia is biologically determined as he appears to have claimed. Three times he has replied telling me his views on homosexuality. Am I doing something wrong? Is he failing to read for comprehension? Or is he deliberately not answering the question I am asking?
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by JoannaP:
Three times I have asked Merlin whether he really thinks homophobia is biologically determined as he appears to have claimed. Three times he has replied telling me his views on homosexuality. Am I doing something wrong? Is he failing to read for comprehension? Or is he deliberately not answering the question I am asking?
To answer your questions: no, no, yes.
Merlin knows exactly what he is doing. His method is to wind people up (not trolling at all) and he delights in setting up arguments then diverting the discussion. He's actually very smart, but I can't see any use for him.
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Pigwidgeon
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
...I can't see any use for him.
Amen. I give up (not in). I'm getting a headache from
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Porridge
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
Merlin knows exactly what he is doing. His method is to wind people up (not trolling at all) and he delights in setting up arguments then diverting the discussion. He's actually very smart, but I can't see any use for him.
Really? Are you sure he's not just too stupid to breathe?
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Apocalypso:
quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
Merlin knows exactly what he is doing. His method is to wind people up (not trolling at all) and he delights in setting up arguments then diverting the discussion. He's actually very smart, but I can't see any use for him.
Really? Are you sure he's not just too stupid to breathe?
He's certainly smart enough to breathe: it's an involuntary act IIRC and 'oxygen thief' is a pretty accurate description of him.
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Porridge
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Well, you've been around longer than I have, you've had more experience; you may be right.
But I still think he's a few dangles short of a chandelier. B&W thinking; sweeping generalizations; inability to imagine or empathize with The Other.
Sad, really.
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And a curious addiction to inverted commas, as well. I know it's a trivial point in the midst of all the hateful confused twaddle, but it just annoys me...
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orfeo
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Originally posted by Apocalypso:
But I still think he's a few dangles short of a chandelier. B&W thinking; sweeping generalizations; inability to imagine or empathize with The Other.
It's either that or he simply can't write for nuts.
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Porridge
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Or clarity, either. ![[Two face]](graemlins/scot_twoface.gif)
Maybe he thinks he can convert people to his wingnuttery through misdirection?
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orfeo
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Originally posted by Apocalypso:
Maybe he thinks he can convert people to his wingnuttery through misdirection?
I think you might be onto something there. That might be what all the ducking and weaving is about. Try a proposition, if that gets knocked down, modify something and see if it now becomes more reasonable. Above all, do not say what you really mean in any more than 1 post in 3, lest your prey figure it out.
He really does seem entirely reasonable on occasion. But that's only when you read little snippets in isolation, not the great overwhelming and constantly shifting tide of jetsam.
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He once called me "an Enemy." I think now that perhaps that should be a point of pride.
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Which is when it's time to remind everyone once again that all these posts simply feed the beast.
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Originally posted by Rossweisse.:
He once called me "an Enemy." I think now that perhaps that should be a point of pride.
Ooh. Any tips on your successful method for achieving Enemy status?
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Porridge
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Well, I can't help with that question. I have one of my own, though: is Merlin's sudden silence a sign that he's reading, digesting, and working on changing his posting style?
Or is he simply trying to work out yet another way to re-frame prejudice in more politically-acceptable verbal garb, assuming we're all too dim to notice?
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Originally posted by Apocalypso:
Well, I can't help with that question. I have one of my own, though: is Merlin's sudden silence a sign that he's reading, digesting, and working on changing his posting style?
Or is he simply trying to work out yet another way to re-frame prejudice in more politically-acceptable verbal garb, assuming we're all too dim to notice?
No- he's simply spending far too much of his spare time writing loooong posts in DH to have any excess capacity to waste here ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by orfeo:
Ooh. Any tips on your successful method for achieving Enemy status?
Confront him, on a regular basis, with inconvenient facts which refute his looneytoon assertions, and back them up with lots of sources. He'll be furious - and then he'll go silent, until his next wacko attack.
It also helps to be an uppity woman in this case, of course.
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quote:
Originally posted by Rossweisse.:
He once called me "an Enemy." I think now that perhaps that should be a point of pride.
Well done. ![[Overused]](graemlins/notworthy.gif) That should be worn with the same pride as the "bad monkey" medal from Shirley Phelps-Roper.
I have just caught up with the Dead Horse thread, having read the last 3 pages in one sitting and and off to have a lie down.
Shouldn't hosting Dead Horses and having to read all Merlin's posts be covered under the Geneva Convention as a cruel and unusual punishment?
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Porridge
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Probably. Personally, I've learned to check this thread before checking the DH one.
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Here - help yourself to the brain bleach!
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Boogie
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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Shouldn't hosting Dead Horses and having to read all Merlin's posts be covered under the Geneva Convention as a cruel and unusual punishment?
It certainly deserves a medal and large amounts of chocolate.
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Porridge
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Ewww -- chocolate and brain bleach don't mix!
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quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Shouldn't hosting Dead Horses and having to read all Merlin's posts be covered under the Geneva Convention as a cruel and unusual punishment?
It certainly deserves a medal and large amounts of chocolate.
You're absolutely right, and it's about fuckin' time somebody gave team DH the love they deserve.
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![[Axe murder]](graemlins/lovedrops.gif) to the DH team! (I'm told it's all you need.)
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mousethief
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The Beatles said, "All you need is love"
And then they broke up!
--Larry Norman
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QJ
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Thank goodness for so many people having the opportunity to blast someone and for the ability to put it so nicely.
In america, life is so expensive that it has become hard to help people out when they have gotten themselves into economic trouble.
I know a family who lives humbly but their kids have internet service and cell phones. They get all sorts of assistance from many sources. They love God and their fellow man and are a blessing to the community. We have helped them out in various ways so they could get by.
If the goverment will give people help why would they not take it?
If the church will give people help why should they not take it?
I am amazed at how angry christians will get, myself included, and it's as if we are reaching out to prove we are spiritual by doing and saying things we know better than to say. Mostly all i prove is that i am dull of hearing and thought and God is gracious.
I hope that everyone out there will find work of some sort and can pay their bills. I hope that kids get enough to eat each day. we like to give to the Salvation Army and Food For The Poor among others. we choose to support those sorts of things. i don't really choose where my tax dollars are spent, they just take the money and give it away.
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Marvin the Martian
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Nah, all things considered I don't think that post was worth dragging the thread up from the depths for.
If (when?) Merlin posts more stupid shit someone can start a new thread for it.
This one go bye-bye now.
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Uncle Pete
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We were working at the Same Time. I moved his (QJ's) post to AS in the How to economize thread.
That said, I agree with you about this thread.
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