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Latchkey Kid
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quote: Originally posted by Sparrow: quote: Originally posted by Firenze: But if anyone has any ideas for leftover brandy butter, I'd be pleased to hear them.
Take one teaspoon. Remove lid of container. Hold the container in your left hand, teaspoon in the right ...
(reverse if you are left handed of course)
The trouble with brandy butter is that it is so hard to resist.
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quote: Originally posted by Firenze: But if anyone has any ideas for leftover brandy butter, I'd be pleased to hear them.
I think this is one of those rare problems, but it would make a slap-up filling for various kinds of cookies (biscuits to you lot). My goddaughter does petit beurre sandwiches with ganache or cream cheese frosting; brandy butter would work there, or you could go super-luxe with a ginger biscuit or something more shortbready.
Or give fruit (raw or cooked) or plainer baked good any a little extra something something by melting it over as a glaze. [ 08. January 2013, 06:15: Message edited by: Amazing Grace ]
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I'm using up someone else's spare brandy butter by putting it with apple & pear sponge. Seems to work just fine...
I suspect you could also freeze it: there's nothing in there that will ruin by freezing, I don't think. (Also good for getting rid of the double cream lake, though that's better whipped and portioned prior to freezing)
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quote: Originally posted by kingsfold: I'm using up someone else's spare brandy butter by putting it with apple & pear sponge. Seems to work just fine...
Aha! I am making a cheesecake for tomorrow, with a base of crumbled digestive held together with melted butter.
On which subject, I have just visited three supermarkets, looking for either an orange, lemon or lime jelly. And the only flavour in stock? Strawberry.
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So here's a challenge.... I need a recipe by Friday for a dairy-free, wheat-free, oat-free, rice-free dessert that isn't fruit salad (far too virtuous) and that possibly uses blackberries, plums, rhubarb or gooseberries from my freezer. Anyone have a suggestion?
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Meringue of some sort?
You could try mulling the fruits (plums/backberries definitely, maybe rhubarb too) and if you can keep them from disintegrating, serve them on a meringue base. Or put a meringue top on it. Maybe serve with the Swedish Glace non-dairy icecream thingy?
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I don't know what state your frozen plums are in, but if whole or halved maybe you could bake them? Add some raisins and brown sugar and spices and dairy-free marg in the centres, a bit like baked apples. If anyone's not dairy free they could splodge on some creme fraiche to serve, or you can get soy ice cream I believe.
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Firenze
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I find fruit is cheered up a lot by being piled into a shallow dish, thickly sprinkled with brown sugar, then baked in a hot oven until it's got burnt bits, drizzle on fruit liqueur to taste. Or just banana, baked with rum and sugar. Or stew the fruits separately, and then layer in a glass with ground almonds, or ground roasted hazelnuts.
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quote: Originally posted by daisydaisy: So here's a challenge.... I need a recipe by Friday for a dairy-free, wheat-free, oat-free, rice-free dessert that isn't fruit salad (far too virtuous) and that possibly uses blackberries, plums, rhubarb or gooseberries from my freezer. Anyone have a suggestion?
A compote of stewed rhubarb with some finely chopped ginger in syrup (the sort you get in jars). Cook the rhubarb but don't add sugar, add some syrup from the ginger jar instead and chuck in some finely chopped pieces of the ginger. Let the rhubarb reduce to mush. It is essentially a sort of rhubarb fool. Serve with a dollop of sorbet. Vanilla might be nice.
I also have a plum compote recipe where you halve, stone and cook the plums with some grated lemon rind, some sugar, apple juice, brandy and ground cardamom. The recipe suggests you serve it over frozen yogurt (I used ice cream), but you could get away with another sorbet for this as well.
Or there could be baked apples, either stuffed with something like mincemeat or one of your freezer fruits, pre-cooked in some flavoursome way?
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Thanks for the ideas, although I'm still hunting for something a bit more puddingy and less like a warm fruit salad. I'm toying with using gram flour or polenta as a crumble topping - is this sensible?
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DaisyDaisy
All right this is a fruit salad but I assure you that I have never known anyone refer to it as virtuous.
Winter Fruit Salad Dried fruit usually a mix of prunes, apricots, pears, pineapple and mango. Brandy Apple juice Brown sugar/honey spices and glace ginger
If not soft dried fruit then soak over night in apple juice to soften. Add Brandy and brown sugar and heat gently until brown sugar is disolved and leave to cool. Chop glace ginger fine and stir in.
You put enough brandy in an no-one thinks of it as worthy!
Service with pretend double cream
box of cream substitute Box of ground almonds vanilla extract
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If the problem isn't wheat but gluten, there's gluten-free flour, which would open up a lot more possibilities.
Pancakes with blackberries, sugar and lemon being one.
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Rice is also mentioned though, which doesn't contain gluten! Wondering if the recipient is on some kind of paleo diet.
Anyway, I would vote for some kind of pavlova which isn't virtuous at all.
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If maize flour/polenta is OK, that opens up all sorts of pancake and fritter possibilities.
Maybe a leaf through the dessert section in a Mexican cookbook?
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Thank you all. This dessert is especially for a friend (dairy free & wheat free) and me (dairy free, oat free & rice free) which is certainly challenging! I am wondering about something along the lines of a cheesecake, with a polenta base, a topping based on tofu and laced heavily with ginger and a rhubarb topping, again laced with ginger. Last time I made a vegan chocolate ganache (Hugh Fearlessly Eatsitall had it on his website) which was very popular with everyone, regardless of allergies. I'll try a compote/cooked fruit salad another time though.
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DaisyDaisy, interested in why you're oat and rice free - I can't have oats (but wheat is weirdly fine), but rice isn't an issue.
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Lemon or chocolate souffle with a brandied plum puree? You would have to oil the dish rather than use butter, almond oil would be nice if allergies permit.
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quote: Originally posted by Jade Constable: DaisyDaisy, interested in why you're oat and rice free - I can't have oats (but wheat is weirdly fine), but rice isn't an issue.
I am allergic to both oats and rice, in different categories. Oats has unpleasant side effects, rice is a total disaster. Shame really because I love both of them. Millet is a very good substitute for oats, and I have spaghetti with a home-made curry if I don't have naan in the house.
These are all lovely ideas and I'm looking forward to giving them a go - thank you all!
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Mine is not a recipe query, but this is clearly the place where experienced cooks hang out. Has anyone any experience of using multisize cake tins ? Can anyone confirm or assuage my fears that cake mix would ooze out the bottom? I'm planning to make madeira/pound cake for a tiered birthday cake, with a seaside theme.
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I've never used one, but I wouldn't have thought the risk is any greater than with a loose-bottomed cake tin. Just line it well and it should be fine.
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How about this.
Lemon Angel Pie
4 eggs, separated 1 cup sugar 1/4 tsp. cream of tartar 1/2 cup sugar 3 Tbsp. lemon juice 1 Tbsp. grated lemon rind 1/4 tsp. salt 2 cups whipping cream.
Beat 4 egg whites, gradually add 1 cup sugar and cream of tartar. Beat until stiff, but not dry. Spread on bottom and sides of buttered 9 inch pie pan.
Bake at 350 degrees for 45-60 minutes.
Cool.
Take 4 egg yolks and beat slightly. Stir in 1/2 cup sugar, 3 Tbsp. lemon juice and 1 Tbsp. grated lemon rind, 1/4 tsp. salt. Cook until thickened in microwave for 4 minutes (stir every 30 seconds) Cool.
Whip 2 cups whipping cream and fold 1/2 of whip cream into lemon mixture. Pour into cooled meringue shell. Top with the remaining whip cream. Chill for 24 hours.
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Oops!
Sorry about that. I forgot you needed non-dairy as well as no oats, etc..
I wonder if you could substitute non-dairy whipped topping.
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My stepmother does a nice pudding that's basically tinned apricot halves baked with a topping of crushed amaretti biscuits. (Quite possibly some alcohol too.). I think those biscuits are just almonds & sugar so shoud be ok.
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quote: Originally posted by Yangtze: My stepmother does a nice pudding that's basically tinned apricot halves baked with a topping of crushed amaretti biscuits. (Quite possibly some alcohol too.). I think those biscuits are just almonds & sugar so shoud be ok.
I've done a similar thing with a less fancy topping of cornflakes, butter and sugar (and raisins in with the peaches, or pears if using them instead). Very tasty and cheap. Amaretti biscuits sound nicer! I think they are just sugar, almonds and egg white.
What about a pear crumble with the crumble mix made from ground almonds, cocoa powder, dairy-free margarine and sugar? Crumble mix doesn't need any kind of raising agent so I can't see why ground almonds wouldn't work. You can also get coconut flour from Holland & Barrett which I haven't tried but I bet would make a lovely crumble topping. [ 10. January 2013, 12:43: Message edited by: Jade Constable ]
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More nice ideas to try. I quite often substitute either tofu or soya "cream" for dairy cream, and also put cereal and/or fruit with a soya dessert (the long life ones are really handy). I've begun a blog for all the recipes that I find and try out.
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Regarding allergy free desserts and alternatives to oats: (sorry for late reply - only just read this).
For alternatives to oats, you might try buckwheat flakes which look fairly like rolled oats but have a nuttier flavour. Millet flakes are also available from some health food shops. I haven't actually tried them but I believe they could be used in a similar way to buckwheat flakes.
A popular and adaptable allergy free dessert in our house is a fruit crumble with our own topping. The topping goes roughly as follows
2 - 2 1/2 oz (60-80 g) buckwheat flakes 2 - 2 1/2 oz (60-80 g) polenta 3/4 oz (20 g) sugar (if not allergic to nuts, add 1 oz (30g) ground almonds, other flours/ flakes which those eating the crumble are not allergic to can be added/substituted as desired) handful of sunflower and/or pumpkin seeds approximately 1 tablespoon mild vegetable/sunflower oil
Mix together dry ingredients in a bowl and make a well in the centre.
Pour in the oil, and mix in well with a fork, not a spoon, until the mixture clumps together like breadcrumbs. 1tbsp oil should be fine, but a little more can be added if required according to the absorbance of your dry ingredients.
Spread on top of stewed fruit and smooth with fork. Bake in oven at approx 180 C until lightly browned.
This recipe can be adapted to savoury crumbles by removing the sugar (and almonds if desired) and substituting herbs, mustard and/or cheese as desired or suitable for the diet required.
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Thank you for this crumble recipe - I had no idea that buckwheat is gluten free, so i'll try this next time. I've not noticed buckwheat flakes in the shop that i go to though - I use millet flakes almost daily as porridge, and made a passable flapjack with it too.
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Any ideas for left-over Christmas pudding? I have half a one in the freezer. (It's the first one I ever made and came out a bit tarter than I expected somehow, if that makes any difference...)
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Christmas pud truffles! Crumble, stir into standard chocolate truffle mix (chocolate and cream melted together and cooled), cool, roll into balls and dip into tempered chocolate. Half-dip in melted white chocolate and decorate with sprinkles so they look like little christmas puddings if you like.
Crumbled pudding stirred into readymade custard and frozen makes a nice ice cream as well.
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quote: Originally posted by Jade Constable: Christmas pud truffles!
Ooh, that sounds good. I may have to try that.
Re: Christmas pud. Numerous Scottish friends inform me that leftover pud is delicious as part of a full fry up. No, really.
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quote: Originally posted by daisydaisy: Thank you for this crumble recipe - I had no idea that buckwheat is gluten free, so i'll try this next time. I've not noticed buckwheat flakes in the shop that i go to though - I use millet flakes almost daily as porridge, and made a passable flapjack with it too.
It has a misleading name! It is actually not a cereal but is related to rhubarb. Today's random fact!
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quote: Originally posted by UCCLynn: I am going through some cookbooks of my mom's . In one that is a culinary history of a farmer's market, tnere is a recipe for a conord grape pie. I remember someone, possibly lutheranchik, looking for an amish grape pie recipe. I think this might be similar. This recipe is also germann heritage. If there is interest, I will post it (but not when i am limited to typing on my nook).
Btw, i enjoy the ideas here. Lynn
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Aelred, thanks for the crumble recipe! Nuts are fine for me.
UK bakers, when an American recipe says to use applesauce what can you use instead? UK-style apple sauce doesn't seem like it would work. This is the recipe I want to make, if that helps.
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I take 'applesauce' to be American for 'stewed apple', but with the addition of cinnamon and sugar. As I don't much like cinnamon or very sweet things I just use straight stewed apple.
The only problem is that of moisture content, as home-made can vary wildly according to the variety of apple. If using a commercially prepared sort it would always have the same amount of moisture.
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Hitherto my ideas of what to do with smoked haddock (a common commodity in Scottish fishmongers) have begun and ended with kedgeree.
However I've just discovered something else -
Poach your haddie in milk.
Stew a finely chopped onion and ditto garlic in butter. When soft, sprinkle over a tbsp flour and add the milk from the fish, to make a thick sauce. Tip in a finely chopped chilli (I used Scotch Bonnet) and the zest (and/or juice) of a lime, some frozen peas and the fish.
Either make some shortcrust pastry adding a tsp of turmeric, or use ready made and fold in the turmeric.
Make up into either a pie, or individual pasties and bake about 30 mins. [ 16. January 2013, 07:20: Message edited by: Firenze ]
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That sounds delicious Firenze. I usually poach smoked haddock in milk and serve it on a bed of spinach (or more likely chard, from the garden) with a poached egg on top and maybe a couple of slices of bread and butter.
Pastry isn't allowed in my house at the moment, after a recent over-indulgence in mincepies, but when it is back on the menu I'm certainly having a go at your recipe
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Continuing the fishy theme, the fishmonger had cooked cod roe today, so I did my first ever homemade taramasalata.
It was very simple - just whizz up the roe, garlic and milk-soaked white breadcrumbs with olive oil and lemon juice to taste. Much nicer than the lurid pink and vinegary stuff you buy.
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quote: Originally posted by Firenze: Poach your haddie in milk.
Who would cook it any other way?
quote: Originally posted by Roseofsharon: That sounds delicious Firenze. I usually poach smoked haddock in milk and serve it on a bed of spinach (or more likely chard, from the garden) with a poached egg on top and maybe a couple of slices of bread and butter.
Slurp, slurp...
I remember sometime in my late 20s or maybe even early 30s coming across some smoked haddock in a shop and buying it and cooking it, and suddenly realising that that was the kind of fish my Mum used to often give us on Fridays when we were kids, that I hadn't ever come across elsewhere. Except that I didn't like it when I was young, but now I did, very much!
quote: Originally posted by Keren-Happuch: Smoked haddock makes a mighty fine risotto too.
That would be a fancy Italianite name for kedgeree?
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quote: Originally posted by ken:
quote: Originally posted by Keren-Happuch: Smoked haddock makes a mighty fine risotto too.
That would be a fancy Italianite name for kedgeree?
Well, not quite. It doesn't have eggs or curry in it. And can have lots of other yummy things in it instead. [ 16. January 2013, 19:07: Message edited by: Keren-Happuch ]
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quote: Originally posted by Roseofsharon: I take 'applesauce' to be American for 'stewed apple', but with the addition of cinnamon and sugar. As I don't much like cinnamon or very sweet things I just use straight stewed apple.
The only problem is that of moisture content, as home-made can vary wildly according to the variety of apple. If using a commercially prepared sort it would always have the same amount of moisture.
Ooh, do you think a tin of apple pie filling would work?
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quote: Originally posted by Jade Constable: Ooh, do you think a tin of apple pie filling would work?
Have never used canned apple pie filling, so don't know what the consistency is. If it has firm lumps of apple in it you'd need to mash it down to something more like a pulp.
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quote: Originally posted by Rosa Gallica officinalis: Mine is not a recipe query, but this is clearly the place where experienced cooks hang out. Has anyone any experience of using multisize cake tins ? Can anyone confirm or assuage my fears that cake mix would ooze out the bottom? I'm planning to make madeira/pound cake for a tiered birthday cake, with a seaside theme.
I have that tin! And I love it. I may even have wittered on about it on my cakey blog somewhere. As birdie says, just line it well. I tend to line is with just one big piece of greaseproof/baking paper (instead of separate pieces for sides & base). The base has approx. 1cm lip on it anyway so as long as there is overlap between the base-piece and side-pieces of paper, it shouldn't leak too much unless your cake mix is very very runny, or you're making an upside down cake with syrup in the bottom or something. I made my wedding cake with that cake tin and I don't think any mixture dripped out of the bottom.
Just a thought if you're making a tiered sponge cake - you'll have to cut off quite a bit from the top of each layer to make it flat (since sponge cakes rise more pointily than fruit ones), so use more mixture than you normally would or you might get a very short cake.
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quote: Originally posted by Roseofsharon: I take 'applesauce' to be American for 'stewed apple', but with the addition of cinnamon and sugar.
A little sugar may be found in most commercial north american applesauce, but cinnamon is almost never included. Homemade applesauce, which would be just as expected as commercial in a recipe, contains as much or as little sugar as you choose.
Most "organic" applesauce one buys is sugar free, I believe.
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quote: Originally posted by John Holding: quote: Originally posted by Roseofsharon: I take 'applesauce' to be American for 'stewed apple', but with the addition of cinnamon and sugar.
A little sugar may be found in most commercial north american applesauce, but cinnamon is almost never included. Homemade applesauce, which would be just as expected as commercial in a recipe, contains as much or as little sugar as you choose.
Most "organic" applesauce one buys is sugar free, I believe.
John
The problem is that UK apple sauce is made with cooking apples, which are sour (like very large crab apples). A sugar free version of that would be mouth-puckeringly sour!
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quote: Originally posted by John Holding: quote: Originally posted by Roseofsharon: I take 'applesauce' to be American for 'stewed apple', but with the addition of cinnamon and sugar.
A little sugar may be found in most commercial north american applesauce, but cinnamon is almost never included. Homemade applesauce, which would be just as expected as commercial in a recipe, contains as much or as little sugar as you choose.
Most "organic" applesauce one buys is sugar free, I believe.
John
The problem is that UK apple sauce is made with cooking apples, which are sour (like very large crab apples). A sugar free version of that would be mouth-puckeringly sour!
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la vie en rouge
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To add to the confusion, applesauce is what the French refer to as "compôte".
It is absurdly easy to make yourself (and much, much tastier than the sort you buy in a jar). To wit:
Peel and chop apples. Put them in a big pan. Add as much or little sugar as you wish (I use slightly sharp apples and don't add any sugar). A little bit of vanilla makes it extra yummy. Add a tiny bit of water to start it off and put it on the stove with a lid on. Once it's bubbling turn the heat down and leave it to cook down for about half an hour. Once all the apple is broken down, use a stick blender to mushify it. You can make a completely smooth purée but personally that says nothing to me so much as "babyfood" so I tend to leave it a bit lumpy.
This works with various kinds of fruit - apple-strawberry is very nice, rhubarb, apricots and peaches also work well, but need more sugar. If you make a fairly large quantity, it freezes well.
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Roseofsharon
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quote: Originally posted by Jade Constable: The problem is that UK apple sauce is made with cooking apples, which are sour (like very large crab apples). A sugar free version of that would be mouth-puckeringly sour!
The apples I use for cooking are Bramleys, which cook down to a very moist fluff. I never add sugar if it is just for the family. We also used Bramleys as 'eaters' - back in the day when we had several Bramley trees. If the fruit is left to ripen on the tree it becomes perfectly acceptable for eating raw. Goodness know why they are come to market so green
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Pomona
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quote: Originally posted by Roseofsharon: quote: Originally posted by Jade Constable: The problem is that UK apple sauce is made with cooking apples, which are sour (like very large crab apples). A sugar free version of that would be mouth-puckeringly sour!
The apples I use for cooking are Bramleys, which cook down to a very moist fluff. I never add sugar if it is just for the family. We also used Bramleys as 'eaters' - back in the day when we had several Bramley trees. If the fruit is left to ripen on the tree it becomes perfectly acceptable for eating raw. Goodness know why they are come to market so green
I'm afraid I could never have Bramleys without sugar, and I don't even consider myself to have a particularly sweet tooth (I don't have sugar in my tea and don't like chocolate-flavoured things, just chocolate itself)!
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UCCLynn
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To Jade Constable's question re applesauce, I think you have many options beyond making applesauce, etc. I see that the recipe is "low-fat." Frequently when making baked good recipes lower in fat, applesauce is substituted for cooking oil. If you don't have something like applesauce or don't feel inclined to make it, you could put in an equivalent amount of canola or other cooking oil. Or, you could put in something else that adds moisture but no or little fat. I have often used a nonfat plain or vanilla yogurt instead of applesauce in recipes, esp where there is already baking soda. In fact, my favorite banana bread recipe calls for a significant amount of yogurt for precisely that purpose.
Feel free to experiment! At the small level of applesauce required, you won't taste the apple (or the yogurt or oil)!
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