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I had mixed feelings about this one. I though Missy was great and really liked seeing Osgood back (but was sad to see her go.
But I didn't buy the whole cyber-conversion of the dead by the water. Admittedly it would have bee grim if they were fully converted but how does one drop of water make a whole cyber-suit? I also wasn't sure about the ending. Was the whole of Missy's plot just to give the Doctor a birthday present? And if the Doctor was now in command of the cyberman why did it need Danny to lead them to blow themselves up?
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I think Missy's plot was just about her nastiest yet. She wanted to corner the Doctor into a position where the temptation to exercise absolute power would be overwhelming. The last Doctor to come close to that was the War Doctor, and those that came after him didn't even count him as "the Doctor".
If the Doctor had destroyed the Cybermen with a word of command, he'd be no better than Missy - it's the Fourth Doctor's Genesis of the Daleks dilemma coming back to haunt him. (And, by the way, I'm pleased that the show has recently restored, or at least emphasised, this point of moral integrity in the Doctor's character.) The Cybermen had to be led to destruction by one of their own - a soldier who wouldn't obey the Doctor-as-General.
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But I didn't buy the whole cyber-conversion of the dead by the water. Admittedly it would have bee grim if they were fully converted but how does one drop of water make a whole cyber-suit?
In much the same way that rain gets seeds started off, of course, except that the seeds would have been nano-particles mixed in with the actual rain. Once the seeded rain had mixed with the bones, thereby triggering off the precise chemical combination needed, the rest is obvious, innit. Obviously the metal of the cybersuits was sort of reactive and could grow to exactly the right proportions for each skeleton and each skeleton had the strength (despite possibly having been dead for a few centuries) to force open their graves and prise up the tombstones without breaking any bones in the process. This would be because their bones would also have been magically reinforced during the process.
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At some point some writer should include some such exchange between the Doctor and other character:
Other: But that's impossible! What about conservation of mass?
Doctor: Oh your primitive human science. You even still think neutron flows have no polarity.
There you are. Half the fan problems with this season sorted.
I liked the skydiving bit. I liked quite a lot of it. Other bits were a bit wonky - I don't like killing off Osgood. And there's a bit of me that feels Danny's criticisms of the Doctor are unresolved and that's unsatisfactory.
Bring back zygon Osgood. Missy is now my favourite incarnation of the Master (admittedly not a hard post to fill).
Probably the third best season finale of the new series.
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Both episodes were absolutely superb. There have been some genuinely horrible moments that have stuck with me; as I've said before, like it did when I was a kid. I was genuinely gutted about Danny, I thought he was in for more of a role. He was a good guy. The aforementioned killing of Osborne and the Brigadier's daughter falling out the plane was shocking. Some bits (like the morgue scene) were X-Filesesque. This show is like it always was, it's not there to make us feel comfortable. I was much more gutted for Danny than when Amy went. (I was unmoved when she came back for Smith's last episode)
A few questions, however: What was the point of the post-it notes in Clara's place at the beginning of the first episode of the last one? Was 3W actually on earth? I mean, the Danny-Cyberman was on earth, as was Clara when she was unconscious. Was part of it in St. Paul's? Is the Mistress (who was excellent) now dead or sent to another dimension or something? Who actually shot her, the Doctor or the Brigadier-Cyberman?
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A few questions, however: What was the point of the post-it notes in Clara's place at the beginning of the first episode of the last one?
I've thought about that. In the trees episode she promised to tell Danny the truth, and I think the post-its were her notes to remind her of everything she needed to tell him. But that is just a guess.
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Was 3W actually on earth? I mean, the Danny-Cyberman was on earth, as was Clara when she was unconscious. Was part of it in St. Paul's?
Until the roof of St. Paul's opened, I was developing a theory that Missy's TARDIS was inside the door of St. Paul's and so all of 3W was in the TARDIS. Now I am not so sure.
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Is the Mistress (who was excellent) now dead or sent to another dimension or something? Who actually shot her, the Doctor or the Brigadier-Cyberman?
The Doctor did. But he shot her with her own weapon. I suspect that she teleported out (we have commented before in this season that the disintegration effect and the teleport effect are very similar). Now, whether the Doctor set the weapon for teleport and just was pretending to kill Missy for Clara's benefit, or whether Missy had arranged it so that her own weapon could not be used to kill her and could only teleport her, I don't know. But, either way, she'll be back.
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I thought it was the Brigadier cyberman who shot her, just as the Doctor was dithering about it, though I wouldn't be surprised if she comes back
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Except that the Doctor didn't look surprised that she was shot...and he was startled later by the CyberBrig after they found Kate. So, presumably, he hadn't seen him before.
But my memory may be playing tricks. Like I said upstream, I failed to record it so I can't go back and watch.
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I thought it was the brigadier cyberman too but can't be bothered to go and watch again.
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Missy is now my favourite incarnation of the Master
Not Roger Delgado? High praise indeed.
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Missy is now my favourite incarnation of the Master
Not Roger Delgado? High praise indeed.
Delgado is a great actor, but his Master is a standard issue evil villain in the Ming the Merciless mould.
You can argue that Missy is ultimately in the mould of the Joker as of Alan Moore's Killing Joke, but I'd say that's a more interesting thing to be. Also she's more of a departure from that mould.
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Missy is definitely more in the John Simm line of frightening villains - that fine edge between sanity and complete lunacy. She certainly played the part well and it wasn't a comfortable or easy role. However, I disliked her portrayal a lot - the character was too stagey and affected by half.
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Originally posted by Dafyd:
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Originally posted by balaam:
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Originally posted by Dafyd:
Missy is now my favourite incarnation of the Master
Not Roger Delgado? High praise indeed.
Delgado is a great actor, but his Master is a standard issue evil villain in the Ming the Merciless mould.
The Master was both sociopath and psychopath from the start, he was never as predictable as a Ming character. It all depended on the story.
Delgado's Master could also be one dimential in some stories, but that is also true of Pertwee era Doctor Who that he wasn't in. You can't blame Delgado for that. He defined the role.
But I did enjoy Missy. The best of the NuWho Masters.
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My favourite loose end from this episode was wondering how Clara was going to return a long dead boy from a far away country to his parents ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
I thought that's what she as going to see the Doctor about in the cafe at the end - especially since she is happy to acknowledge that the bracelet worked, but does not mention Danny until the Doctor starts making assumptions.
On a completely different note - blink and you miss it, but the broken cyber helmet Kate produces at the start of the episode is from the old series, I think from The Invasion, which this episode continued to reference.
(I only noticed that one on rewatch and had trouble freeze-framing it, it's so short)
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Missy is definitely more in the John Simm line of frightening villains - that fine edge between sanity and complete lunacy. She certainly played the part well and it wasn't a comfortable or easy role. However, I disliked her portrayal a lot - the character was too stagey and affected by half.
But then, surely that is the nature of the character - Delgado and Simm both played a rather affected character. I think she feels like a female version of them.
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To me, the episode was largely made up of anti-climaxes. Clara impersonating the Doctor ... going nowhere. Missy building up this whole army of potentially hundreds of billions ... and then gives it up to make some kind of point to the Doctor. The whole 'soldier' angle during the season didn't do much for me, wherever that went.
Clara and Danny never did much for me. So far, the only companions' couple that had chemistry between them was Rose and Mickey. Clara going along so easily with Danny's suicide ... meh.
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Originally posted by balaam:
Delgado's Master could also be one dimential in some stories, but that is also true of Pertwee era Doctor Who that he wasn't in. You can't blame Delgado for that. He defined the role.
I don't blame Delgado for that, any more than I blame Colin Baker for the car crash that was the Sixth Doctor-era. Nevertheless, the Sixth Doctor was a car crash despite Colin Baker, and the Third Doctor era Master shares all the flaws of the rest of the UNIT era.
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When I look back over the season there is something bothering me — Orson Pink.
If Danny is his ancestor and was upgraded to Cyberdanny, where does Orson come from?
If Danny does not return it leaves plot hole you could get lost in.
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When I look back over the season there is something bothering me — Orson Pink.
If Danny is his ancestor and was upgraded to Cyberdanny, where does Orson come from?
If Danny does not return it leaves plot hole you could get lost in.
Some people are already speculating that Clara must be pregnant. If she isn't, there is indeed a problem.
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Yes, this had occurred to me and I was assuming she was pregnant.
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I've seen mentions here about Clara seemingly coming back, and also Father Christmas. Was there a brief preview of the next episode or something? There wasn't one on the stream I watched.
Yes. As the credits started to roll the music suddenly stopped and we were on the Tardis with the Doctor. A booming voice announced something to the effect that it couldn't all be left like that and door of the Tardis burst open, enter Father Christmas. He said something along the lines of, "What would you like for Christmas?"
I'm sorry I sound so vague, I'm sure my short term memory is going so while we only watched it last night I find it hard to remember detail. I found it all most unsatisfactory and hope the Christmas special sorts it out.
Nen - ho ho ho.
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Do we know OOU that Danny doesn't return? We haven't seen a body ...
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I'd be surprised if Danny returned, he certainly appeared to have become a cyberman and there is no precedent for recovery from that. It would mean the cyberman invasion would have been unreal as well as the 'afterlife'. The old lady saw him being hit and there was someone put on an ambulance, etc. Faking death isn't the sort of thing Doctor Who usually does to human characters, it's not Sherlock I think it would be far more shocking for him to actually still be alive than for him to have died.
Clara being pregnant is a far more obvious solution, well, to me anyway.
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Just as fun speculation, I don't think that bringing Danny back would mean that the invasion or the Nethersphere were unreal, or that his death was faked. I could imagine the following scenario:- Danny died at the traffic accident.
- Just before he died, his consciousness was uploaded to the Nethersphere.
- His consciousness was reunited with his dead body, making him the cyberman we saw at the cemitery.
- His body somehow survived the explosion that destroyed the cloud.
- Through some phlebotinum, the removal of his emotions is reversed. Heck, Santa could do it.
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Well I thought that "if he's not dead, how did he contact Clara at the end?", but then again, he was in the same place where that boy was. This begs the question of whether the boy also became a cyberman (if he did, this would appear in Iraq). I guess there that he would also jump to the cloud.
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I voted for Derek Jacobi, a very fine actor. I have also heard of Eric Roberts. Doctor Who is fiendishly difficult to view in the US, as it must be recorded and then fast-forwarded to the next five minute segment!
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A clip from the Christmas special on Children in Need showed Clara, so that's one question answered.
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The more I think about it, the more I suspect that Danny will return. The Orson Pink plot thread cannot be ignored. They went out of their way to have the character and have him played by the same actor as Danny, and establish (through the toy soldier) that he is a descendant of Danny. Even for a show notorious for having plot holes and leaving threads dangling, that is a bit much to just ignore.
Of course, they could handle it by just saying that Clara is pregnant but that would suggest that she and Danny were, ummmm, more than friends. Outside of marriage. And before Clara was willing to be honest with him and was still sneaking away for fun and games with the Doctor. All of which is possible, of course, but a little unsatisfactory.
Soooo, taking all of that into consideration, I am convinced that Danny will return to life and we can get those two wild kids properly married off.
But, having said that, it is also true that I have been wrong on virtually all my predictions concerning this season so, you know, consider the source. I am seeing if I can set a new personal best for being wrong.
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A clip from the Christmas special on Children in Need showed Clara, so that's one question answered.
And didn't it all look dreadful......
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Of course, they could handle it by just saying that Clara is pregnant but that would suggest that she and Danny were, ummmm, more than friends. Outside of marriage. And before Clara was willing to be honest with him and was still sneaking away for fun and games with the Doctor. All of which is possible, of course, but a little unsatisfactory.
Umm, this may be a Pond (Atlantic, not Amy) difference, but Danny and Clara getting intimate 'outside of marriage' would raise no eyebrows here. After all, this is the series that introduced Captain Jack Harkness, described as 'omnisexual', who would sleep with anyone of any species who he fancied; where Amy tried to bed the Doctor as soon as she forgot about Rory; not to mention supposed shenanigans between the Doctor and Elizabeth I, the High Priestess of the Anglican Mainframe and others - at different times, I should add.
When you factor in that the majority of children born in (England &) Wales are born to unmarried parents, I think that any Clara pregnancy will scare precisely zero horses.
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I guess she could even have become impregnated by one of these raindrops. This being the Who universe and all.
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Umm, this may be a Pond (Atlantic, not Amy) difference, but Danny and Clara getting intimate 'outside of marriage' would raise no eyebrows here.
It is not so much a Pond difference as it is that I am hopelessly old-fashioned. Heck, I use a mechanical pocket watch because I find battery-operated watches to be too gimmicky.
And I use words like "Heck." 'Nuf said.
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When you factor in that the majority of children born in (England &) Wales are born to unmarried parents, I think that any Clara pregnancy will scare precisely zero horses.
Yes, nobody will bat an eyelid at it. Interestingly (well, for me, as I'm an historian) in 1930s the Registrar General estimated that a third of first children were conceived out of wedlock. It was just that in those days the parents got married before the birth so it was more hidden. My mother was one such child, in 1935 my grandmother turned up at her sister's house with a soldier one day as she was too afraid to go home...
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Chris Addison was brilliant, just the right amount of disgusting smarmy.
I was trying to remember who he reminded me of .... Mark Gatiss as Mycroft in Sherlock!
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For those who care about such things, it appears that the official stats reflect that Series 8 with Peter Capaldi drew about the same number of viewers as tuned in for Series 5, 6 & 7 (all Matt Smith). If I am reading the information correctly, special episodes like the 50th Anniversary episode or the Christmas ones were excluded from the analysis.
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If Doctor Who is losing viewers at such a rate it can't be long until it's cancelled. Moffat must go now. Bring back Tennant and Rose, and put them in stories exactly like the ones from when I was twelve.
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I thought Hedgehog said the viewing figures are the same ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif)
Tea, perhaps I missed some irony there! ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
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Aaahhh! Not only do I mess up that post but my ipad turns eta to tea! Which perhaps I need more of.
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Originally posted by Rev per Minute:
Umm, this may be a Pond (Atlantic, not Amy) difference, but Danny and Clara getting intimate 'outside of marriage' would raise no eyebrows here.
It is not so much a Pond difference as it is that I am hopelessly old-fashioned. Heck, I use a mechanical pocket watch because I find battery-operated watches to be too gimmicky.
And I use words like "Heck." 'Nuf said.
Do you like Nigel Molesworth as well?
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If Doctor Who is losing viewers at such a rate it can't be long until it's cancelled. Moffat must go now. Bring back Tennant and Rose, and put them in stories exactly like the ones from when I was twelve.
But Dafyd, the 10th Doctor and Rose weren't in the Sensorites! ![[Two face]](graemlins/scot_twoface.gif)
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Bring back Ian Chesterton!
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The Christmas special will be, naturally enough, on December 25th. Does anyone know exactly when? And, more importantly, when it will be repeated? Even though the trailers make it look dreadful, I want to catch it.
orfeo - complete agreement, but extend this to bring back Susan as well. I'm currently listening to a Big Finish historical epic, Farewell Great Macedon, where Russell and Ford reprise their roles, and it is wonderful!
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Hedgehog
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Originally posted by Robert Armin:
The Christmas special will be, naturally enough, on December 25th. Does anyone know exactly when?
Assuming that you are watching BBC One, then it looks like it will run from 6:15pm to 7:15pm.
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doubtingthomas
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Originally posted by Robert Armin:
The Christmas special will be, naturally enough, on December 25th. Does anyone know exactly when? And, more importantly, when it will be repeated? Even though the trailers make it look dreadful, I want to catch it.
I'm not sure where you are based, but under new iplayer rules, it should be viewable online in the UK for a month.
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M.
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I thought Father Christmas lives in Lapland - why are they going to the North Pole?
M.
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The Christmas specials are not usually my favourites, and last year was particularly awful (coming after the wonderful 50th anniversary ep). But nothing can top the epic awesomeness of what happened in our house last year. Half way through the episode, the doorbell rang, and my Ship Secret Santa delivered his present to me in person!
It was someone I had never met IRL, who doesn't live anywhere near me. We had the most wonderful time chatting over a cuppa. I did watch the rest of the episode next day, but I'm left thinking that the incident which interrupted our viewing was much more fun - and very Whovian in its way!
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Originally posted by M.:
I thought Father Christmas lives in Lapland - why are they going to the North Pole?
He can't own a vacation home?
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