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Barnabas62
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And there was I, thinking you really wanted to see this endgame through to its end!
White can promote the b pawn to win the Black Rook by advancing the pawn to b7 and then checking the Black King with his Rook, provided that the Black King is on rank 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 or 1. So the Black King must remain on rank 7 so that it can capture a checking White Rook. This inhibits Black's ability to defend his Kingside pawns against an attack on them by the White King. So ... what do you think? Must Black finally lose?
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LeRoc
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I have another flight today, but I'd like to play Black a couple of moves from now.
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Barnabas62
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quote: Originally posted by LeRoc:
I'm not entirely sure what you mean, moonlitdoor.
Let's exchange Rooks, and maybe we'll find out:
Gamestate - Moves 1-12
Moves 13-20
Moves 21-30
31. White - Pawn to b5: Black - Rook to c5 32. White - Rook to d8: Black - Rook to f5, taking pawn 33. White - Rook from b6 to b8: Black - Rook to g5, check 34. White - King to h3: Black - King to h6 35. White - Rook to h8, check: Black - King to g6 36. White - Rook from b8 to g8, check: Black - Rook to g7 37. White - Pawn to b6: Black - Rook to b5 38. White - Rook to g7 taking Rook, check
My strategy to promote the pawn would be to try to move the Rook behind it somehow; perhaps I'm a Tarrasch purist.
Current board.
Re-posted, because of the page turn. Black to move. And if Black doesn't play King takes Rook on g7, I demand a recount! [ 08. May 2016, 07:40: Message edited by: Barnabas62 ]
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Doublethink.
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Gamestate - Moves 1-12
Moves 13-20
Moves 21-30
31. White - Pawn to b5: Black - Rook to c5 32. White - Rook to d8: Black - Rook to f5, taking pawn 33. White - Rook from b6 to b8: Black - Rook to g5, check 34. White - King to h3: Black - King to h6 35. White - Rook to h8, check: Black - King to g6 36. White - Rook from b8 to g8, check: Black - Rook to g7 37. White - Pawn to b6: Black - Rook to b5 38. White - Rook to g7 taking Rook, check: Black - King to g7, takes rook
There really was no other rational move.
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Doublethink.
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White is goin to have to move his remaining rook, losing either the rook or the pawn in the b rank, I would have thought. Doubt its wise to lose the rook.
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moonlitdoor
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quote:
posted by Barnabas62 So the Black King must remain on rank 7 so that it can capture a checking White Rook. This inhibits Black's ability to defend his Kingside pawns against an attack on them by the White King. So ... what do you think? Must Black finally lose?
I think white can win the h pawn but it seems that black can block white's h pawn by putting his king on h7. If he just leaves it there and doesn't capture it, can white make any progress ? If white tries to bring the king across to the b pawn it can be driven away by checks.
So my other idea is to bring the white king across while the pawn is still on b6. If white can get the king to b7, he can then look to move the rook out and bring it to the 6th rank, then play king to c7 opening the way for the pawn to advance. If checked he can interpose his rook on c6. Does that work ?
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Barnabas62
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Gamestate - Moves 1-12
Moves 13-20
Moves 21-30
31. White - Pawn to b5: Black - Rook to c5 32. White - Rook to d8: Black - Rook to f5, taking pawn 33. White - Rook from b6 to b8: Black - Rook to g5, check 34. White - King to h3: Black - King to h6 35. White - Rook to h8, check: Black - King to g6 36. White - Rook from b8 to g8, check: Black - Rook to g7 37. White - Pawn to b6: Black - Rook to b5 38. White - Rook to g7 taking Rook, check: Black - King to g7, takes Rook 39. White - Rook to b8
Again, I don't see any other move for White but to protect the b pawn from b8.
LeRoc clearly has some ideas about how to play the Black position, so I'm wondering if maybe it would be courteous to wait and give him a chance to try his hand?
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LeRoc
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quote: Barnabas62: Again, I don't see any other move for White but to protect the b pawn from b8.
Exactly, and once again the Rook is on the wrong side
quote: Barnabas62: LeRoc clearly has some ideas about how to play the Black position, so I'm wondering if maybe it would be courteous to wait and give him a chance to try his hand?
Thank you. I don't really have a fixed plan for Black, I just think White's position is more complicated than it looks. (I'm still curious how that came to be.)
Gamestate - Moves 1-12
Moves 13-20
Moves 21-30
31. White - Pawn to b5: Black - Rook to c5 32. White - Rook to d8: Black - Rook to f5, taking pawn 33. White - Rook from b6 to b8: Black - Rook to g5, check 34. White - King to h3: Black - King to h6 35. White - Rook to h8, check: Black - King to g6 36. White - Rook from b8 to g8, check: Black - Rook to g7 37. White - Pawn to b6: Black - Rook to b5 38. White - Rook to g7 taking Rook, check: Black - King to g7, takes Rook 39. White - Rook to b8: Black - Rook to b2
My rook can do two things at once
Current board.
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Barnabas62
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Gamestate - Moves 1-12
Moves 13-20
Moves 21-30
31. White - Pawn to b5: Black - Rook to c5 32. White - Rook to d8: Black - Rook to f5, taking pawn 33. White - Rook from b6 to b8: Black - Rook to g5, check 34. White - King to h3: Black - King to h6 35. White - Rook to h8, check: Black - King to g6 36. White - Rook from b8 to g8, check: Black - Rook to g7 37. White - Pawn to b6: Black - Rook to b5 38. White - Rook to g7 taking Rook, check: Black - King to g7, takes Rook 39. White - Rook to b8: Black - Rook to b2 40. White - Pawn to b7
(Threat 40. ....RxP? 41. Rg8-ch and then 41. Pb8=Queen ch)
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Doublethink.
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Gamestate - Moves 1-12
Moves 13-20
Moves 21-30
31. White - Pawn to b5: Black - Rook to c5 32. White - Rook to d8: Black - Rook to f5, taking pawn 33. White - Rook from b6 to b8: Black - Rook to g5, check 34. White - King to h3: Black - King to h6 35. White - Rook to h8, check: Black - King to g6 36. White - Rook from b8 to g8, check: Black - Rook to g7 37. White - Pawn to b6: Black - Rook to b5 38. White - Rook to g7 taking Rook, check: Black - King to g7, takes Rook 39. White - Rook to b8: Black - Rook to b2 40. White - Pawn to b7: Black - King to g6
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Barnabas62
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Gamestate - Moves 1-12
Moves 13-20
Moves 21-30
31. White - Pawn to b5: Black - Rook to c5 32. White - Rook to d8: Black - Rook to f5, taking pawn 33. White - Rook from b6 to b8: Black - Rook to g5, check 34. White - King to h3: Black - King to h6 35. White - Rook to h8, check: Black - King to g6 36. White - Rook from b8 to g8, check: Black - Rook to g7 37. White - Pawn to b6: Black - Rook to b5 38. White - Rook to g7 taking Rook, check: Black - King to g7, takes Rook 39. White - Rook to b8: Black - Rook to b2 40. White - Pawn to b7: Black - King to g6
White wins
41 White - Rook to g8, check followed by 42 White - Pawn to b8 and Queens.
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Barnabas62
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LeRoc may want your 40th move for Black to be rescinded, DT!
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Doublethink.
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You see, I thought I was protecting the black king with that move.
Also, no takebacks, tis what it is.
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Doublethink.
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The queened pawn can be taken immediately anyway.
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Barnabas62
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Yes, the Queen can be captured on b8 by the Black Rook But the Black Rook is then captured immediately by the White Rook on g8, leaving White a Rook ahead.
Black has no counterthreats (e.g. to queen a pawn), so it's all over.
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moonlitdoor
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Now that the game is done, Barnabas, tell us what you were planning if Black just plays passively, moving the rook up and down the b file. I could not see how white can win it, which is why I thought of trying to get the king to b7.
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LeRoc
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The Black King shouldn't have gone to row 6.
quote: moonlitdoor: Now that the game is done, Barnabas, tell us what you were planning if Black just plays passively, moving the rook up and down the b file. I could not see how white can win it, which is why I thought of trying to get the king to b7.
Exactly. It wouldn't even have to be passive: the Black Rook could have done a lot of damage on the b line, giving multiple checks and attacking pawns, while the White Rook was stuck at b8. [ 08. May 2016, 18:33: Message edited by: LeRoc ]
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LeRoc
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quote: Barnabas62: LeRoc may want your 40th move for Black to be rescinded, DT!
Heh yes
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Doublethink.
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I apologise for my lack of chess nous, do we want to end here and start a new game then ?
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LeRoc
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No problem at all, it was a fun game. I really like the three moves rule. It's just enough to do something, but won't let anyone dominate the game. And also yes, this crowd-sourcing gives some unexpected positions sometimes I'm all for starting a new game.
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Doublethink.
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NEW GAME
Your move folks !
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Barnabas62
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1. White - Pawn to e4
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Barnabas62
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Having done that, a quick reply to moonlitdoor and LeRoc re a plan for White if Black went passive. I thought the position was probably drawn after it became R&3P v R&2P so I was just fiddling about. I've had look at the endgame after Black Rb4 and can see some benefit in White manoeuvring with King and Pawns to try to get a better position on the Kingside - and maybe win a pawn. But best Black defence ought to be able to hold White at bay.
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Barnabas62
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New Game
After more than 24 hours, I claim a win for White!
(Seriously folks, you've got a kazillion good options in response to e4.) [ 09. May 2016, 21:47: Message edited by: Barnabas62 ]
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moonlitdoor
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1. White - Pawn to e4 Black - Pawn to c5
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Barnabas62
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Oh good. The Sicilian.
1. White - Pawn to e4: Black - Pawn to c5 2. White - Knight to f3
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moonlitdoor
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1. White - Pawn to e4: Black - Pawn to c5 2. White - Knight to f3: Black - Knight to c6
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Sipech
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I'm going to pitch in for white this time
1. White - Pawn to e4: Black - Pawn to c5 2. White - Knight to f3: Black - Knight to c6 3. White - Bishop to c4
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moonlitdoor
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1. White - Pawn to e4: Black - Pawn to c5 2. White - Knight to f3: Black - Knight to c6 3. White - Bishop to c4: Black - Pawn to e6
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Barnabas62
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1. White - Pawn to e4: Black - Pawn to c5 2. White - Knight to f3: Black - Knight to c6 3. White - Bishop to c4: Black - Pawn to e6 4. White - Pawn to d4
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Caissa
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What is the Bishop doing on c4? If the Bishop is played on the 3rd move it is usually to b5. Is this an attempt to get out of book early?
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Barnabas62
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Bobby Fischer tried Bc4 a lot against the Sicilian. But not on move 3. I think we're in relatively uncharted waters but may transpose into better known variations.
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Sipech
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f1-b5 seemed needlessly aggressive. By curtailing the bishop's advance to f1-c4, white is establishing more of a presence in the centre, rather than looking for early exchanges at the sides.
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Barnabas62
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I'm pretty sure Fischer used to play 3. d4 cxd 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 and then 6. Bc4 after d6, e6. g6 etc. It was his approach to the Open variations of the Sicilian, which normally involve White playing d4 on move 3. Playing Bc4 on move 3 may transpose or allow Black to try other different options.
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Barnabas62
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Bump!
Current position, Black to play.
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moonlitdoor
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I made the first 3 black moves so someone else is needed.
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Caissa
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1. White - Pawn to e4: Black - Pawn to c5 2. White - Knight to f3: Black - Knight to c6 3. White - Bishop to c4: Black - Pawn to e6 4. White - Pawn to d4 Black-Pawn c5 captures on d4.
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Barnabas62
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1. White - Pawn to e4: Black - Pawn to c5 2. White - Knight to f3: Black - Knight to c6 3. White - Bishop to c4: Black - Pawn to e6 4. White - Pawn to d4; Black-Pawn c5 captures on d4. 5. White - Knight to d4, takes Pawn [ 13. May 2016, 21:03: Message edited by: Barnabas62 ]
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LeRoc
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1. White - Pawn to e4: Black - Pawn to c5 2. White - Knight to f3: Black - Knight to c6 3. White - Bishop to c4: Black - Pawn to e6 4. White - Pawn to d4: Black - Pawn from c5 to d4, takes Pawn 5. White - Knight to d4, takes Pawn: Black - Knight to f6
Current board.
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1. White - Pawn to e4: Black - Pawn to c5 2. White - Knight to f3: Black - Knight to c6 3. White - Bishop to c4: Black - Pawn to e6 4. White - Pawn to d4: Black - Pawn from c5 to d4, takes Pawn 5. White - Knight to d4, takes Pawn: Black - Knight to f6 6. White - Bishop to g5
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LeRoc
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1. White - Pawn to e4: Black - Pawn to c5 2. White - Knight to f3: Black - Knight to c6 3. White - Bishop to c4: Black - Pawn to e6 4. White - Pawn to d4: Black - Pawn from c5 to d4, takes Pawn 5. White - Knight to d4, takes Pawn: Black - Knight to f6 6. White - Bishop to g5: Black - Queen to a5, check
Current board.
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1. White - Pawn to e4: Black - Pawn to c5 2. White - Knight to f3: Black - Knight to c6 3. White - Bishop to c4: Black - Pawn to e6 4. White - Pawn to d4: Black - Pawn from c5 to d4, takes Pawn 5. White - Knight to d4, takes Pawn: Black - Knight to f6 6. White - Bishop to g5: Black - Queen to a5, check 7. White Bishop to d2
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Caissa
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I think Bg5 was an error.
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LeRoc
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Hehe, I managed to move that Bishop back
1. White - Pawn to e4: Black - Pawn to c5 2. White - Knight to f3: Black - Knight to c6 3. White - Bishop to c4: Black - Pawn to e6 4. White - Pawn to d4: Black - Pawn from c5 to d4, takes Pawn 5. White - Knight to d4, takes Pawn: Black - Knight to f6 6. White - Bishop to g5: Black - Queen to a5, check 7. White Bishop to d2: Black - Queen to c5
Who has a presence in the centre now?
Current board.
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Caissa
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Does white have anything playable?
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Barnabas62
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1. White - Pawn to e4: Black - Pawn to c5 2. White - Knight to f3: Black - Knight to c6 3. White - Bishop to c4: Black - Pawn to e6 4. White - Pawn to d4: Black - Pawn from c5 to d4, takes Pawn 5. White - Knight to d4, takes Pawn: Black - Knight to f6 6. White - Bishop to g5: Black - Queen to a5, check 7. White - Bishop to d2: Black - Queen to c5 8. White - Knight to c6, takes Knight
Best of a bad lot I think.
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LeRoc
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I might have gone for 8. Nb5, threatening 9. Nc7+ with a fork.
My three moves for Black are up.
Current board.
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Barnabas62
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I did look at Nb5 and reckoned that at best White loses two pieces for a Rook. The White Knight gets trapped at a8. I don't much like Nxc6 but found a few fiddles in some variations. Sipech is right, Bg5 was a mistake which looks as though it loses time and material.
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LeRoc
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quote: Barnabas62: I did look at Nb5 and reckoned that at best White loses two pieces for a Rook.
I'm wondering which sequence you have in mind. After 8. Nb5, if Black wants to take those pieces I guess we're thinking 8. … Qxc4?? 9. Nc7+ Kd7 10. Nxa8 Qxe4+ with White ending up a point ahead. I would probably have played 8. … Nxe4 myself, threatening check-mate at f2. But I don't see a sequence leading to the exchange of two pieces for a Rook so quickly.
quote: Barnabas62: I don't much like Nxc6 but found a few fiddles in some variations.
Looking forward to seeing those fiddles!
quote: Barnabas62: Sipech is right, Bg5 was a mistake which looks as though it loses time and material.
Interestingly, in this game as well as the one before it, attacking a Knight with a Bishop somewhere near the beginning hasn't been a strong move.
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