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orfeo
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Analysing Trump's sniffles seems a really dumb thing for any Democrat to do right after complaining about the hyperbole that surrounded Clinton's recent illness.
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cliffdweller
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Originally posted by Gramps49:
Regard's Trump sniffles. I was wondering if he might have taken cocaine. I have seen this with coke heads.
I've also seen it with people with colds and hay fever.
I saw it as proof that karma is real, and she's pissed. After all his endless hyperbolic 2nd guessing of HIllary's every cough and stumble, here he is in prime time and he's sniffing like a coke fiend at a rave. He clearly has monkey flu or penguin AIDs or a new version of pigeon ebola. We will have to quarantine him for the good of the country-- 10, 20 years oughta do it.
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Twilight
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(To Romalion:) Dan Rather lost his job because one piece of journalism in a long, brilliant career had not been fact checked beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Fox News, which I'm sure you swear by, made so many false statements, on a daily basis, that they had to re-define themselves as an entertainment show. Talk about credibility.
Today they're squawking about Lester Holt being too hard on their big baby.
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cliffdweller
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I think Trump's audition for Fox's new reality show, "Candidate Island" went quite well.
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Originally posted by cliffdweller:
I think Trump's audition for Fox's new reality show, "Candidate Island" went quite well.
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Golden Key
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Opinion piece, at **Fox News**, of all places, by pollster who is also a political consultant and co-host of a Fox news show.
"Hillary won the first debate (it helps to be prepared)."
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IconiumBound
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I was hoping that the debate format would put the moderator in a position to tamp down any attempts to wrest control out of order. That Lester Holt, only once, attempted to stop Trump's interruptions and failed at that.
This was not a debate it was a brawl.
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Pigwidgeon
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Originally posted by IconiumBound:
This was not a debate it was a brawl.
A "New Yorker" cartoon (probably pay-to-see) depicts it as a cock fight.
(No, not that kind -- I mean roosters!)
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rolyn
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Originally posted by orfeo:
Analysing Trump's sniffles seems a really dumb thing for any Democrat to do right after complaining about the hyperbole that surrounded Clinton's recent illness.
The way our morning news reported it left me wondering if Clinton's "illness" wasn't just a ruse for trump to stumble into.
He questions her 'stamina' when some observers thought it was he who looked frayed at the edges.
All good cat and mouse stuff for this stage of the race.
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Sober Preacher's Kid
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by IconiumBound:
This was not a debate it was a brawl.
A "New Yorker" cartoon (probably pay-to-see) depicts it as a cock fight.
(No, not that kind -- I mean roosters!)
Until this election, that would be puerile and unnecessary to state. ![[Help]](graemlins/help.gif)
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Golden Key
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Re Trump's sniffling:
I didn't notice it. But, for the first part of the debate, his face looked very pale, exhausted, and ill. Then, he somehow pinked up.
I don't see any reason to assume he did coke.
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Brenda Clough
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A roundup of conservative opinions on the debate. This is from the POST.
Money quote, from David French over at the right-wing National Review, about Trump's performance: "I felt like I was watching the political Titanic hit the iceberg, back up, and hit it again. Just for fun."
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orfeo
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Originally posted by rolyn:
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Originally posted by orfeo:
Analysing Trump's sniffles seems a really dumb thing for any Democrat to do right after complaining about the hyperbole that surrounded Clinton's recent illness.
The way our morning news reported it left me wondering if Clinton's "illness" wasn't just a ruse for trump to stumble into.
He questions her 'stamina' when some observers thought it was he who looked frayed at the edges.
All good cat and mouse stuff for this stage of the race.
Aargh. Why is it that people love conspiracy theories so goddamn much?
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Originally posted by orfeo:
Why is it that people love conspiracy theories so goddamn much?
The Illuminati want it that way.
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Originally posted by Golden Key:
Re Trump's sniffling:
I didn't notice it. But, for the first part of the debate, his face looked very pale, exhausted, and ill. Then, he somehow pinked up.
I don't see any reason to assume he did coke.
Oooh no. It's a good thing you don't see any reason to assume Trump did coke. We all hate to think Trump did coke.
(how many mentions does it take to get a search engine to go ballistic?)
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Originally posted by orfeo:
Aargh. Why is it that people love conspiracy theories so goddamn much?
He he. As much as we are told the Universe subject to the laws of chance and chaos many are simple unable to interpret it that way.
Trump is not some random quirk thrown up by chance but more a car crash waiting to happen. No one would blame the Clinton camp for using every trick in the book to try and prevent it.
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The altitude plus the legalized cannabis must make those evil demons extra restless.
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cliffdweller
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by IconiumBound:
This was not a debate it was a brawl.
A "New Yorker" cartoon (probably pay-to-see) depicts it as a cock fight.
(No, not that kind -- I mean roosters!)
Unfortunately, with Trump you really have to clarify as the other sort of fight is not out of the question for a debate...
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Pigwidgeon
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Hell has officially frozen over. The Arizona Republic (which was originally called The Arizona Republican -- I kid you not) has, for the first time since it was founded in 1890 -- endorsed the Democratic candidate for President!
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
Hell has officially frozen over. The Arizona Republic (which was originally called The Arizona Republican -- I kid you not) has, for the first time since it was founded in 1890 -- endorsed the Democratic candidate for President!
The bit that stood out for me was this neat encapsulation of character.
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Trump responds to criticism with the petulance of verbal spit wads.
That’s beneath our national dignity.
When the president of the United States speaks, the world expects substance. Not a blistering tweet.
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Brenda Clough
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Over in the NY Times magazine, a columnnist watched the debate and says, "What I would have given for Clinton to offer him a tissue."
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
Hell has officially frozen over. The Arizona Republic (which was originally called The Arizona Republican -- I kid you not) has, for the first time since it was founded in 1890 -- endorsed the Democratic candidate for President!
Just wow.
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I think Trump's appeal is in his effort to turn himself into glass. I saw part of a Trump rally in Melbourne, Florida on telly today, and he uses touchstones like he's leading a high school pep rally, he refers to important people at the rally, says how good they are and how honored he is.
Then he talks about the problems of the country without naming them. He says stuff like, "Oh, we have problems. We have big problems. Big big problems people. But it's OK, because we are going to win. We have got to win." In this way, he seeks to paint himself as the solution to whatever problem about the USA the individuals in his audience perceive to be the worst.
I think he's finished with specifics. But the question is whether this mirroring strategy will get the vote out. How is his organisation on the ground going?
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cliffdweller
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We're not seeing much of anything here in California, but he'd be a fool to spend much $$ here in this solidly blue state. It would be interesting to hear from shipmates in a swing state.
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Golden Key
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Full transcript of last night's debate. (Yahoo)
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The Arizona Republic has this article on the first TV debate, headline: 'Our View: Clinton takes down a national bully'.
Another thoughtful article. Let's still hope that plenty of Americans will see through Trump's threadbareness and elect Hillary.
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alienfromzog
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Over on the Fox News website you can read Newt explaining how Donald really won. In part because of his use of facts...
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I glimpse the ground game from way down here in the grassroots of a purple state. And I will say that there is a GOP table at both the farm markets I frequent. One even had one of those cardboard life-sized cutouts of Trump, so that you could take your picture with it. The table was a little lonely, sure, but it was there.
At the other the placards of the local candidates were quite visible, and the Trump sign was off to the side. I did go up and confide to the lady at the table that as long as her candidate was in bed with Trump she had lost my vote.
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Originally posted by alienfromzog:
Over on the Fox News website you can read Newt explaining how Donald really won.
You know the worrying thing is he could be right. Voters who feel angry and anti-political-elite and all that and who respond to populism will think Trump won that debate. And if there are enough of them then he did really win.
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Originally posted by mdijon:
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Originally posted by alienfromzog:
Over on the Fox News website you can read Newt explaining how Donald really won.
You know the worrying thing is he could be right. Voters who feel angry and anti-political-elite and all that and who respond to populism will think Trump won that debate. And if there are enough of them then he did really win.
I thought that when he said 'because I'm smart', when Clinton said he hadn't paid taxes. I guess that lots of people will think that is smart, and it's pretty smart to talk about women as trash, and so on, and be a racist.
I suppose you hope that they're in a minority. It's weird from abroad, to see how professional and capable, and well, tough, Clinton looks, (whereas he looks like a manchild), but then I can see the appeal of someone outside the political class.
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Pigwidgeon
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
Over in the NY Times magazine, a columnnist watched the debate and says, "What I would have given for Clinton to offer him a tissue."
That was actually another New Yorker cartoon yesterday.
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I was thinking that if I was in a jam, say the gunfight at the OK Corral, or a lifeboat, if you like. Who would you want with you? Why, Clinton, of course, she's tough, she's capable, she knows stuff. Whereas the manchild would be bleating and bloviating all over the place, and trying to make money out of it. View from abroad.
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Apparently Trump is denying that he was sniffing, and that it was a faulty microphone that made it sound like he was (I guess the cameras were faulty too, since he also looked like he was sniffing). That could explain a lot of things. All of those insults and nasty comments over the years about women, immigrants, etc., have always been the fault of his microphone! His comments that I was certain I heard (e.g., He doesn't pay taxes because he's smart, Making money off of people who lost their homes to foreclosure during the housing crisis was just good business) were actually slipped into the debate by the microphone technicians!
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Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
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Originally posted by mdijon:
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Originally posted by alienfromzog:
Over on the Fox News website you can read Newt explaining how Donald really won.
You know the worrying thing is he could be right. Voters who feel angry and anti-political-elite and all that and who respond to populism will think Trump won that debate. And if there are enough of them then he did really win.
I thought that when he said 'because I'm smart', when Clinton said he hadn't paid taxes. I guess that lots of people will think that is smart, and it's pretty smart to talk about women as trash, and so on, and be a racist.
I suppose you hope that they're in a minority. It's weird from abroad, to see how professional and capable, and well, tough, Clinton looks, (whereas he looks like a manchild), but then I can see the appeal of someone outside the political class.
All true, but those folks are already in his camp anyway, and they're not likely to budge.
The target in the debates are the undecided voters, who probably don't really like Clinton or Trump. For many of them, the questions are whether Trump is really as bad as he seems, whether they should go for Johnson or Stein, or whether Clinton is good enough and they need to hold their noses if necessary and vote for her so Trump doesn't win. So Clinton's task was to let him take all the rope he wanted and trip or hang himself with it, while trying to make sure she came off looking competent and trustworthy.
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CNN's Fact-checking on the presidential debate makes interesting reading. Hilary's a little fibber! ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif) One of her key claims was technically true but misleading. (The other 13 were true).
Oh yeah, Mr Trump: 4 true, 2 misleading and 9 False...
So truthful claims Hilary wins 13:4.
False claims, Donald whitewash: 9:0.
Apparently Donald is very upset that the moderator was biased against him because he fact-checked Donald and called him on his false statements.
You've got to feel for Mr Trump, life is tough when reality is biased against you...
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Originally posted by alienfromzog:
Over on the Fox News website you can read Newt explaining how Donald really won.
Newt Gingrich, who wouldn't recognize a winner if he were betting on the 144,000's chances of being raptured.
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Brenda Clough
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Apparently there are thousands of people who were stiffed by the big bag of hair. If I were the Clinton campaign I would see that one of these stories comes out every day, a different one from now until the first week in November. This one is sad because selling pianos is a difficult business in this era of electronic keyboards.
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Talk of who "won" is irrelevant. It assumes that the viewers are impartial, will recognise who "won" and cast their votes accordingly - a ridiculous proposition as political debates in all elections are nothing more than a series of soundbites, claims, cliches, one-liners and so on. This is of course particularly so because Trump is involved, but to be honest I have never watched a televised debate between any two politicians that was at all enlightening. It is a dreadful medium for politics.
The real question is whether, as a result of the debate, Clinton is likely to have taken any voters from Trump in swing states, or vice versa. What are US shippies' views on that?
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Yikes, some of the commentors BTL seem to think Trumps behaviour is acceptable business practice.
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Most of the people who have made their decision were not going to be changed by the debates. Therefore, the prize up for grabs is the undecided voters. Many people put no brain cells into the election until October or so; this debate may have been their first real contemplation of the candidates. The news organs have carefully gathered focus groups of undecided voters to watch the debates, and repeatedly interview. Here is one from the POST (sorry it's not a free click). The gist is that these voters (undecided women in NC) were horrified by the 'it's smart not to pay taxes' thing, and now incline towards Hillary.
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Golden Key
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My, my, my. The Donald wanted to schedule a private visit to a civil rights museum, recently, and his staff was so demanding that the museum said "no".
Here's the link to the Daily Kos article. It has a link to the original Salon article. But it also has some...interesting...related story links at the bottom. Like Anne Frank's step-sister, who survived Auschwitz, speaking out against Trump. Jewish seniors are speaking out. A Trump foreign policy advisor seems to be a Holocaust denier. And there's a brief film, aimed at comparing Trump to a certain dictator.
I tell you: if Anne Frank's step-sister speaks out against you, you might as well just go home!
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Originally posted by mdijon:
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Originally posted by alienfromzog:
Over on the Fox News website you can read Newt explaining how Donald really won.
You know the worrying thing is he could be right. Voters who feel angry and anti-political-elite and all that and who respond to populism will think Trump won that debate. And if there are enough of them then he did really win.
There's also the question of how much presidential debates and the winning thereof matter to voters. If you recall 2004, John Kerry thoroughly beat George W. Bush in all three of their debates, yet the voters nonetheless returned W to the White House. This may be a bit different though, since Bush Jr.'s appeal was supposed to be that he was just a regular guy who didn't need all that fancy-pants knowledge to do what's right as President. Trump's appeal, on the other (tiny) hand, is that he's the winningest winner who ever won, so losing a debate directly undercuts his case with the public.
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There was more hope for Trump today.
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Golden Key
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Croesos--
Re Kerry losing:
The Swift Boat hoax probably was a big part of it.
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
Vladimir Putin could play him like a Stradivarius.
Or a kazoo, as was mentioned upthread.
If I looked as male as that, I'd go in for a sex change procedure immediately!
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while Hillary Clinton seemed intelligent and capable throughout the debate, she failed to project the suitable male demeanor
Well, there's always those polyester suits . . . .
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OK this is purely fun: a satire piece by the great Calvin Trillin. This is in the New Yorker, which limits your access, but is well worth a click. But the title and subhead probably tell you all: "A Trumpian Candidate on Trump’s Corset --
No work shirt for Doughboy Donald. He wears a floppy suit jacket and a baseball hat. What’s he hiding?"
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Originally posted by romanlion:
No secret that I'm not an Illary fan, but she should be comfortable for the next 24 to 48 hours after having the s**t kicked out of her tonight. ...
Seriously, how exactly did you score this shit-kicking? Number of interruptions? Quantity or quality of word salad? Sniffs? "Believe me"s? One commentator said that Trump's performance made Sarah Palin look like Henry Kissinger by comparison.
And what Marvin the Martian said. It's not clear to me why insulting millions of US citizens on a regular basis is more becoming of a President than workplace sexual harassment.
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