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Gramps49
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1) How did Trump get nominated in the first place?
To hear from his biographers, Trump had been planning this for over 30 years. But in my mind, the stars for his nomination really lined up with the Republican led congress swore to thwart every proposal by Obama. It caused a lot of anger out there which Trump tapped into.
Then there is the current Republican primary system. When you have over a dozen candidates vying for the nomination, the vote gets quite diluted. He actually never got the majority of the vote all of the primaries put together. He eventually had a plurality, though.
2) I found this Time Magazine article about the Trump meltdown interesting, especially how the evangelicals tried to come up with a rationalization to continue to support him. I think it shows how bankrupt that movement really is.
3) This just in: the Trump campaign is pulling out of Virginia.
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lilBuddha
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4)The rest of the Republican contenders couldn't put a single personality together between them, much less an engaging one.
As horrible as it is turning out to be, Trump has a strong personality. And personality wins over substance every single day of the year.
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Crœsos
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
4)The rest of the Republican contenders couldn't put a single personality together between them, much less an engaging one.
As horrible as it is turning out to be, Trump has a strong personality. And personality wins over substance every single day of the year.
I think this involves a dubious premise and an ignored reality. The dubious premise is that any of the non-Trump Republican primary candidates had any "substance". Do you remember any of the substantive policy proposals of any of the rest of the 2016 Republican field? They were just the same usual mix of tax cuts for the very wealthy and vicious cuts to social programs.
The ignored reality is that substance seems to be beating personality in the general election.
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lilBuddha
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Originally posted by Crœsos:
I think this involves a dubious premise and an ignored reality. The dubious premise is that any of the non-Trump Republican primary candidates had any "substance".
Not in the slightest did I mean to imply any of those others were of much real substance.
It was really two points; one that lack of personality doomed the others and that personality is a massive factor in people's voting.
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Originally posted by Crœsos:
The ignored reality is that substance seems to be beating personality in the general election.
That sort of implies that Clinton doesn't have a personality. Trump has a personality, but it is one that many people do not like. People are choosing ideology, but substance? Not so sure. If substance were a real issue, Trump would not have made nominee and the polls since would have had a much greater gap.
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Lamb Chopped
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
I would put good money on there never being a concession speech. Really, can you imagine him saying any such thing?
He has implied that he won't.
He's BSing again. The man couldn't keep quiet to save his life.
I expect a massive tweet storm, a bunch of nasty interviews, and several lawsuits.
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Brenda Clough
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We could have a betting pool -- who will he blame the most? I am thinking his unlucky manager, Kellyann Conway.
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Pigwidgeon
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
We could have a betting pool -- who will he blame the most? I am thinking his unlucky manager, Kellyann Conway.
It's Obama's fault. Everything is.
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Brenda Clough
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OK, one more round of links. There are so many!
The TFO as a mental disturbance in the body politic. The money quote: "Everyone who crosses into Trump's orbit, into his gravitational pull, gets damaged. No one gets out unhurt."
A long how we got into this fix piece, arguing that assaulting women was the last straw.
From the POST, how the deep misogyny was inevitable and how it's not going to go away. "And to finally become president, this candidate who has traversed the last half-century of social, economic, and cultural progress — or lack thereof — for women, has to overcome Trump, looming like the “boss” in a video game, the powerful last enemy you have to fight to finish the game."
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lilBuddha
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To paraphrase John Oliver, there is no rock bottom. We passed the last turtle months ago and still still the descent continues.
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Crœsos
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From Twitter:
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Trump tells Billy Bush that he sexually assaults women; New York Times finds two such episodes. Trump passes a fact-check.
Truly a "glass half-full" sort of analysis.
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
We could have a betting pool -- who will he blame the most? I am thinking his unlucky manager, Kellyann Conway.
I predict a bounced paycheck in her future. This may be the first time it was deserved tho
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Martin60
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
We could have a betting pool -- who will he blame the most? I am thinking his unlucky manager, Kellyann Conway.
It's Obama's fault. Everything is.
Yeaaahhhh. Thanks Obama!
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As Brian McLaren said, maybe we just have to go through another four years on top of four hundred thousand of patriarchy, of the demon daddy.
How many more Lord?
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Brenda Clough
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Conservatives argue that to cauterize the blight that is Trump GOPers should vote for Hillary. It is repetitious to say this, but this has never happened before.
And Michelle Obama weighs in with devastating effect. The money quote: “If this is painful to us as grown women, what do you think this is doing to our children?” she asked. “What lessons are they learning about their values as professionals? As human beings?About their dreams and aspirations?”
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Martin60
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Only if this third rate monster joke doesn't win.
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Bishops Finger
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Surely it won't entirely be Obama's fault? What about all those awful brown people, Muslims, ungrateful women, and the like?
I'll get me coat....
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Pigwidgeon
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Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
Surely it won't entirely be Obama's fault? What about all those awful brown people, Muslims, ungrateful women, and the like?
I'll get me coat....
Ian J.
Maybe not the ungrateful women, but wasn't it Obama who let all those awful brown people and Muslims into our country? After all, he's one of them.
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Originally posted by Crœsos:
From Twitter:
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Trump tells Billy Bush that he sexually assaults women; New York Times finds two such episodes. Trump passes a fact-check.
Truly a "glass half-full" sort of analysis.
That is frickin' fabulous.
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Brenda Clough
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Go here, and read the NYT's reply to Trump's lawyers. The money quote: “The essence of a libel claim, of course, is the protection of one’s reputation. Nothing in our article has had the slightest effect on the reputation that Mr Trump through his own words and actions has already created for himself.”
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Barnabas62
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I reckon Michelle Obama has just doomed Trump to a landslide loss. Very impressive. Very moving. And very motivating. Trump's share of the female vote can be expected, with confidence, to go to record low levels. A richly deserved nemesis for a thoroughly nasty human being.
I note with no surprise that Fox News did not screen the speech live. Megyn Kelly's reaction should be interesting.
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romanlion
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Originally posted by Barnabas62:
I reckon Michelle Obama has just doomed Trump to a landslide loss.
I reckon you overestimate her influence.
No one gives a shit what she says, that's why channels interested in selling commercials don't screen her blather.
Even if she wins, Illary and her rapist husband will be DOA day one.
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Og, King of Bashan
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Originally posted by romanlion:
No one gives a shit what she says, that's why channels interested in selling commercials don't screen her blather.
What more do you need to say when a woman gives a speech about women feeling voiceless and a dude turns around and says "no one gives a shit what she had to say."
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mousethief
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Some people have nothing to post but spite. How sad that is.
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I just checked YouTube. Apparently, ABC, CBS,and NBC, CNN, and C-SPAN were among the news outlets that were so indifferent to Ms. Obama's statements that they posted every damn word she said.
Also, The O'Reilly Factor. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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romanlion
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Originally posted by mousethief:
Some people have nothing to post but spite. How sad that is.
Some people have nothing to do but post.
More sad...
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mousethief
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Golden Key
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romanlion--
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Originally posted by romanlion:
Even if she wins, Illary and her rapist husband will be DOA day one.
Ummm, just what are you trying to say here? That they'll be assassinated? And/or you're hoping for that???
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romanlion
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Originally posted by Golden Key:
romanlion--
quote:
Originally posted by romanlion:
Even if she wins, Illary and her rapist husband will be DOA day one.
Ummm, just what are you trying to say here? That they'll be assassinated? And/or you're hoping for that???
Yes, obviously.
Bill and Illary will be assassinated on inauguration day.
Just. Fucking. Wow.
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Golden Key
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romanlion--
And you're hoping for it?
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simontoad
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romanlion, I appreciate that things look great right now for Hillary Clinton, and that you see that as a bad thing for America. I think I would be feeling very bad if things were reversed. Chin up, me old china plate.
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Zappa
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Originally posted by romanlion:
quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas62:
I reckon Michelle Obama has just doomed Trump to a landslide loss.
I reckon you overestimate her influence.
No one gives a shit what she says,
No one? I saw a shitload of someones in media coverage.
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Originally posted by romanlion:
that's why channels interested in selling commercials don't screen her blather.
I'm not sure that the money-grabbers are the best evaluaters of all that is good and beneficial to planet earth. YMMV.
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Originally posted by romanlion:
Even if she wins, Illary and her rapist husband will be DOA day one.
I find the small pink pills quite helpful.
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RuthW
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Originally posted by Og, King of Bashan:
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Originally posted by romanlion:
No one gives a shit what she says, that's why channels interested in selling commercials don't screen her blather.
What more do you need to say when a woman gives a speech about women feeling voiceless and a dude turns around and says "no one gives a shit what she had to say."
This. This, this, a thousand times, this.
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Originally posted by romanlion:
Even if she wins, Illary and her rapist husband will be DOA day one.
Romanlion, expressing your opinions is what Purgatory is all about, and you are welcome to do so.
However, indulging your fantasies and/or appearing to incite or condone violence in the above manner are beyond the pale, and I'm flagging your above post to the admins.
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Golden Key
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simontoad--
{tangent}
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Originally posted by simontoad:
I think I would be feeling very bad if things were reversed. Chin up, me old china plate.
Out of curiosity, do Aussie china plates come with chins?
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Golden Key
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The 7 Oddest Things Donald Trump Thinks: Why the man who wants to be leader of the most powerful nation on earth prefers fast food, no sleep and old-school flame retardants. (Politico)
And there are stranger things.
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What I find so mind-boggling is this:
How one interprets allogations against famous people is complicated. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty in the eyes of the law. In general the evidence is that false allegations are rare. Whether this is true in the context of famous people, I'm not so sure. However it is very clear that rich and famous people have used their power to silence critics.
Trump though is a special case: whilst all this week, he and his supporters keep making blanket denials, we have a recording of Trump himself boasting that he's assaulted women.
How is there any real doubt?
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quote:
Originally posted by romanlion:
quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas62:
I reckon Michelle Obama has just doomed Trump to a landslide loss.
I reckon you overestimate her influence.
No one gives a shit what she says, that's why channels interested in selling commercials don't screen her blather.
We'll see. Want a bet on what the post election demographics will show about Trump's share of the women's vote? Hint: Romney got 44% in 2012, Obama 55% Further hint; in advance of Michelle Obama's speech, Hillary had a forecast average lead of 15 points with women voters. i.e. 4% better than Obama. Trump is forecast to be 5 points ahead with the men voters.
The gender differential voting pattern is going to kill Trump's presidential prospects. I'm relatively cautious. I think Hillary's advantage in the women's vote will widen. I think Michelle Obama's speech will be one of the factors in that probable gap-widening.
I think a lot of women will 'give a shit' about what she said and I hope a lot of men will as well. She spoke up very well about demeaning speech, attitudes and behaviour towards women. That's not a political point. It is a moral point.
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afz--
Maybe because he has few, if any filters 'twixt mind and mouth; he says whatever pops into his head at the time; his dad taught Donald and siblings that they only mattered if they WON, and Donald seems to have made that the one and only focus of his life; and, since he's a con man who really knows how to play his "marks", he casts himself as a martyr. And they buy it.
I'm coming to the conclusion that he really has very little control over *any* of his own actions, and really doesn't understand why his behavior matters. Not minimizing anything he's done. But he really might not be able to do any better than he's doing. Broken, sick, whatever.
The PBS show "Frontline" recently had an excellent episode called "The Choice 2016". (Can be watched there.)
Video duration: 1:54:48 Aired: 09/27/16
Rating: NR
Video has closed captioning.
"Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are two of the most polarizing presidential candidates in modern history. Veteran FRONTLINE filmmaker Michael Kirk goes beyond the headlines to investigate what has shaped these two candidates, where they came from, how they lead and why they want one of the most difficult jobs imaginable."
It's a really good show about both candidates. People who've known Trump since childhood said he never really changed--and he's said the same thing about himself. When he was little, he was the kind of kid who would run around and knock down other kids' block constructions. IMHO, he hadn't yet learned "use your words, not your fists". So I speculate he's like an obnoxious five year old, taught that winning is the only thing that makes him at all worthwhile; he has no sense of boundaries or how to treat people; he possibly has the boundless libido that some teen boys seem to have; and he may be running out of things at which to win, so this campaign is especially important to him.
So I think we can reasonably expect even worse behavior from him, win or lose.
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Originally posted by Golden Key:
simontoad--
{tangent}
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Originally posted by simontoad:
I think I would be feeling very bad if things were reversed. Chin up, me old china plate.
Out of curiosity, do Aussie china plates come with chins?
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chin = chin, china plate = mate, mate = friend, me old mate = a mate for whom you feel particular affection, especially when drinking together.
He has to face up to what he wrote, but I'm not a mod etc and so I thought Romanlion could use a blokey e-slap across the arse with a wound up end of a wet towel. Of course we are in an e-locker room, so there's nothing suss ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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Martin60
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Originally posted by romanlion:
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Originally posted by Golden Key:
romanlion--
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Originally posted by romanlion:
Even if she wins, Illary and her rapist husband will be DOA day one.
Ummm, just what are you trying to say here? That they'll be assassinated? And/or you're hoping for that???
Yes, obviously.
Bill and Illary will be assassinated on inauguration day.
Just. Fucking. Wow.
You can get that looked at you know. I'd recommend chemical castration at least as well. Camomile tea. Basket weaving. Arf. ARF!ARF!ARF!ARF! [Ribbit. RibbitRibbitRibbitRibbitRibbitRibbitRibbit]
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Og: Thread Killer
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Originally posted by Og, King of Bashan:
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Originally posted by romanlion:
No one gives a shit what she says, that's why channels interested in selling commercials don't screen her blather.
What more do you need to say when a woman gives a speech about women feeling voiceless and a dude turns around and says "no one gives a shit what she had to say."
If this election begins to change how this dynamic is seen, that would be a good thing. Might just have reached a tipping point awareness wise in some groups that heretofore had ignored such things as not important.
I fully expect the racist (I refuse to call them alt) right to go full backlash and add women's rights to the evils list they whine about.
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Originally posted by Golden Key:
The 7 Oddest Things Donald Trump Thinks: Why the man who wants to be leader of the most powerful nation on earth prefers fast food, no sleep and old-school flame retardants. (Politico)
And there are stranger things.
I read out some of these to a friend on the phone. 'How' he asked, 'does he fit his avoidance of germs with sticking his tongue in women's mouths?'
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Originally posted by Og: Thread Killer:
I fully expect the racist (I refuse to call them alt) right to go full backlash and add women's rights to the evils list they whine about.
"Repeal the 19th" was a trending hashtag yesterday. The 19th amendment being women's suffrage.
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jedijudy
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<snip> he possibly has the boundless libido that some teen boys seem to have<snip>
...Or, perhaps none. Some of the Good Old Boys™ around here who talk and grab like the Donald has claimed to do, were, according to their wives, non-functioning. Much to their great relief.
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Brenda Clough
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What is sad about the TFO is that he is over 70. He is not going to ever change, spiritually, now. He will be an asshole until they shovel him under. True repentance may be possible, but certainly is not within earthly power. Only a true miracle can save him. (Jesus, you know why they call it a Hail-Mary pass, right? Here, Lord, take the football; it's all on you.)
But for the rest of us, there is hope! Trump is over 70; surely he cannot have more than another decade of fumbling crotches and ogling teens left in him. He will, thank you, God, thank you! never run for political office again, a benison that almost brings tears to my eyes. And the firestorm of his remaining days (the IRS; the tanking hotels; the women suing; becoming the Biggest Loser of all time) may not do him any good, but surely it will be salutary for Eric Trump, the heir to his creepiness. There is hope, for Eric!
Meanwhile, here was the candidate yesterday, blaming all his problems on Jews and an international conspiracy. There's no bigotry like an old classic bigotry, eh?
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Martin60
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What's gerontology got to do with soteriology?
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Nick Tamen
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
What is sad about the TFO is that he is over 70.
"TFO"? Is that The Forbidden One? (Or as he has become known around our house, He Who Would Be Groper in Chief?)
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