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Augustine the Aleut
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Augustine the Aleut: At the Learned Societies palooza in Ottawa last year, I sat through 20 minutes of an entomologists/linguists panel on this very topic.
They were discussing -ix endings in insect names? ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
My bad! Etymologists, of course. Still, at multi-disciplinary gatherings, who knows what happens after the panel shuts down!
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LeRoc
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Augustine the Aleut: Still, if Mrs Clinton gets the final nod, we will then have the linguists argue if the Spanish-language version of her title would be presidenta or presidente. If Mr Trump gets it, one can only wonder what he might be called in Spanish.
My suspicion is that most Hispanics will be calling him hijo de puta¹.
¹Son of a b…
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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I don't know many putas, but I can't think of one who would be proud to claim him as her hijo.
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Originally posted by Augustine the Aleut:
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Originally posted by LeRoc:
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Augustine the Aleut: At the Learned Societies palooza in Ottawa last year, I sat through 20 minutes of an entomologists/linguists panel on this very topic.
They were discussing -ix endings in insect names?
My bad! Etymologists, of course. ...
Sometimes getting the right word is important.
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Dave W.
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Originally posted by Augustine the Aleut:
Still, if Mrs Clinton gets the final nod, we will then have the linguists argue if the Spanish-language version of her title would be presidenta or presidente.
Spanish language Wikipedia uses "presidenta" for Argentina's Cristina Kirchner, and "senadora" for female US senators. This kind of question may be less significant for languages where all nouns are gendered.
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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Since the Latin root, praesidens, is 3rd declension, it could be argued that the same form is correct for both masculine and feminine.
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Barnabas62
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tangent/
Curiosity is getting the better of me, so I ask a genuine question, without googling. Is there a PC position on languages within which all nouns are gendered? Is it somehow seen as a "sign" of the culture within which such language conventions developed?
/tangent
(I'm bored with Trump)
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cliffdweller
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Originally posted by Barnabas62:
(I'm bored with Trump)
Yeah, we're all bored with him until he starts blowing stuff up and throwing folks off the island.
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Og, King of Bashan
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This is worth a read, regarding how to value polls in the build up to the primaries and general election, especially the way they are portrayed in the media.
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Augustine the Aleut
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Originally posted by Barnabas62:
tangent/
Curiosity is getting the better of me, so I ask a genuine question, without googling. Is there a PC position on languages within which all nouns are gendered? Is it somehow seen as a "sign" of the culture within which such language conventions developed?
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(I'm bored with Trump)
I can only really speak to Canadian French, where a non-gendered stance has been the preference for office (so we have Mme le président or Mlle le capitaine), but the cubicle mate of a coordinateur could well be a coordinatrice (this occasionally slides into francophone English and I have heard a professional respectfully presented as an engineeress-- a Calgary literary friend is still spluttering over having been introduced as Canada's leading poetess in English, to the applause of all).
I have seen anglophone women's studies academics debate furiously over gendered usage in Canadian French, and there seems to be frustration over noun gendering, which some seem to believe is a form of stereotyping (I don't see this as a coherent argument but maybe that's me and as I was the only male in the room, I preferred to say nothing).
One of my activist friends has a written Castilian use of (e.g.) cocinerxs to include cocineros and cocineras but I don't know if this is relevant to your tangent.
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Originally posted by Augustine the Aleut:
I can only really speak to Canadian French, where a non-gendered stance has been the preference for office (so we have Mme le président or Mlle le capitaine),
We've had "Madame Chairman" in English for many decades if not hundreds of years.
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LeRoc
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Augustine the Aleut: One of my activist friends has a written Castilian use of (e.g.) cocinerxs to include cocineros and cocineras but I don't know if this is relevant to your tangent.
In written Spanish or Portuguese, something like 'cociner@s' is sometimes used.
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Barnabas62
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Originally posted by cliffdweller:
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Originally posted by Barnabas62:
(I'm bored with Trump)
Yeah, we're all bored with him until he starts blowing stuff up and throwing folks off the island.
Well, OK.. I guess there could yet be a 'perfect storm' which could lead to a Trump presidency. That's a scary if very unlikely prospect. I'm not bored by that thought. But I am bored by his bullshit.
Anyway. Here's a new train of thought. Suppose he does win the GOP nomination. Who will run with him for VP? Now that would be a real "clothes peg on the nose" choice for whoever made it.
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In the last week or so it's looked like Cruz. He's the only one not gunning for Trump, and the only one not getting any of Trump's trademark "loser" jabs.
There. If that doesn't scare you heading into the New Year, I don't know what will. I'm just not sure if the appropriate response is to sober up or to drink that much harder...
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Originally posted by cliffdweller:
In the last week or so it's looked like Cruz. He's the only one . . . not getting any of Trump's trademark "loser" jabs.
If Cruz were black and a Democrat, Trump would be all over him for not having been born in the USA.
Oh wait . . . .
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Barnabas62
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Perhaps Cruz doesn't need a clothes peg for his nose?
But perhaps that would be a small step up from Sarah Palin, who I heard mentioned in this context?
[I've been following US Presidential politics since Kennedy but I don't think I've seen anything as surreal as this.]
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Originally posted by Barnabas62:
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Originally posted by cliffdweller:
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Originally posted by Barnabas62:
(I'm bored with Trump)
Yeah, we're all bored with him until he starts blowing stuff up and throwing folks off the island.
Well, OK.. I guess there could yet be a 'perfect storm' which could lead to a Trump presidency. That's a scary if very unlikely prospect. I'm not bored by that thought. But I am bored by his bullshit.
Anyway. Here's a new train of thought. Suppose he does win the GOP nomination. Who will run with him for VP? Now that would be a real "clothes peg on the nose" choice for whoever made it.
Anyone remember Dan Quayle? Now he was a bit different as no one would make an attempt on President George Bush snr with J Danforth Quayle on deck. If anyone remotely plausible get the VP nomination on the Trump ticket, it might work the other way round and be bad for Trump.
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Originally posted by Barnabas62:
[I've been following US Presidential politics since Kennedy but I don't think I've seen anything as surreal as this.]
This was presaged by the Teabagger movement. People with no experience, but plenty of rhetoric, gained office. Trump is simply the reality TV extension of that. Combined with the general fear and dissatisfaction with politics as usual.
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I realized something, last night. Trump sounds like a professional wrestler, with all his shouting and bluster! At least, some from decades ago. Don't know what the current style is.
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Barnabas62
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Trump has a long association with the WWE and is a friend of owner Vince McMahon. He's a WWE Hall of Famer. So you're not far off, GK.
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Og, King of Bashan
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Originally posted by cliffdweller:
In the last week or so it's looked like Cruz. He's the only one not gunning for Trump, and the only one not getting any of Trump's trademark "loser" jabs.
There. If that doesn't scare you heading into the New Year, I don't know what will. I'm just not sure if the appropriate response is to sober up or to drink that much harder...
Cruz is ahead of Trump in the RCP average of Iowa polls, and is leading by 10 in the Des Moines Register poll, which has a reputation for being fairly accurate. It's still a month out, so no telling what that translates to on caucus day. But conventional wisdom is that Cruz' nice guy act is less about kissing up to Trump and more about not upsetting the people who currently support Trump, in hopes that he can pick them off in other states after he beats Trump in Iowa.
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Barnabas62
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I suppose it's going to be one or the other, or both. Happy New Year. Amongst other emetic features, I note without enthusiasm that both are stupid about climate change - or pretending to be.
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simontoad
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Nice article on polls, Ug.
Marco Rubio seems less crazy than many in the Republican camp. As a life-long liberal and wannabe socialist, is it bad that I think of him this way?
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Originally posted by simontoad:
Nice article on polls, Ug.
Marco Rubio seems less crazy than many in the Republican camp. As a life-long liberal and wannabe socialist, is it bad that I think of him this way?
Yes, he is a dangerous person.
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simontoad
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I read a National Review article on Rubio. Article
He has all the conservative things I find really destructive, like very low taxes, hatred of a state-sponsored medical system, window dressing on terrorism etc, but his schtick doesn't seem to be on the same level of crazy like Trump, Cruz or Carson. He seems more like in the McCain mold of crazy. I'm happy to be proved wrong ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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There is one note of wit in the man. The campaign is selling shirts, to support the effort. They are red or white or blue, naturally, and they are polo shirts, not tee shirts. Yes, you got it: Marco Polos.
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Og, King of Bashan
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George Pataki apparently got sick of 0% poll after 0% poll and dropped out today. Who do you suppose benefits the most?
In other news, one person attended Martin O'Malley's last townhall meeting, and even that guy isn't convinced that he would caucus for O'Malley. Although the fact that O'Malley not only showed up but talked with the guy for nearly an hour makes him that much more likable in my book.
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There was a depressing article in the New York Times today A private tax system for the rich
It points out that in the last two decades, tax on the 400 highest paying taxpayers has dropped from 27% to less than 17%. Many of the group are among those financing the long new campaigns and the payback is tax loopholes.
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Originally posted by Og, King of Bashan:
George Pataki apparently got sick of 0% poll after 0% poll and dropped out today. Who do you suppose benefits the most?
Presuming that she likes him, his wife.
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I think RuthW nailed it by mentioning the only person who could benefit. Pataki was such a non-entity that even staunch Republicans tended to forget he was running. If Bush or Cruz or Rubio dropped out at this point, there would be a mad scramble that might change the balance, but Pataki’s few supporters won’t add anything large enough to move the polls.
We’ll see what Iowa and New Hampshire do, but I suspect those with enough money to do so will continue through the big battery of Southern primaries. After that, I suspect there will be a clear top 3-5 candidates. The others will have to get out because their funding will go away.
That’s when it will get really acrimonious.
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Originally posted by Og, King of Bashan:
George Pataki apparently got sick of 0% poll after 0% poll and dropped out today. Who do you suppose benefits the most?
Is that the guy from the original Star Trek? Surely he's too old to be president.
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Augustine the Aleut
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Originally posted by simontoad:
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Originally posted by Og, King of Bashan:
George Pataki apparently got sick of 0% poll after 0% poll and dropped out today. Who do you suppose benefits the most?
Is that the guy from the original Star Trek? Surely he's too old to be president.
In spite of my sentiments that prospective heads of government should actually have some governmental experience, I think that George Takei would be a very interesting president. There are no upper age limits in the US Constitution, so as the young folk say, he would be good to go.
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Age or no, he's a hell of a lot more spry than anyone on the GOP ticket.
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He'd be no less serious a candidate than Trump.
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But I'm reasonably sure he wouldn't be found within 100km of a Republican gathering, so they're safe. Takei verssus Hilary, no there's an interesting thought.
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Eh? That's already covered by Bernie Sanders. On all counts.
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IIRC, George Takei worked as a city planner for some time. Not legislative experience, I grant you, but part of gov't and probably a lot of power plays.
He could be a very interesting president. Japanese-American, openly gay, Star Trek (so he has experience handling fame), and IIRC he or his parents were in one of the internment camps.
And, between ST fans and Big Bang Theory fans, he'd get a ton of votes and donations.
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Plus he's delightfully and insightfully funny. Which is a real advantage today when so much of politics seems like ![[brick wall]](graemlins/brick_wall.gif)
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Yesterday whilst doing the washing up I was listening to a discussion programme on Radio 4. They do it at the end of every year, where they get four of their senior foreign correspondents together to make their predictions for the upcoming year. One thing that they seemed quite agreed on was that a Trump nomination was unlikely, and surprisingly to me they felt that the Republican-to-watch in this race was Marco Rubio (the consensus seeming to be that they felt it most likely that Rubio would get the GOP nomination but then lose the presidential election). This surprised me as from this distance the sense I've been getting is that if Trump pulls out/is dumped, that the person most likely to benefit is Cruz. The correspondents did say that if Rubio didn't get the nomination then Cruz most likely would - Bush and the others didn't get a look-in.
How realistic do those of you closer to the selection coverage think this scenario is, a Rubio nomination?
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LeRoc
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That's Nathan Silver's prediction too: after a couple of second and third places in the early primaries, Trump will drop out, after which Cruz will win the nomination.
This time, I'm not so sure. At this point, I'm not ruling out Trump clinching the nomination or even the presidency.
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Og, King of Bashan
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I read a fair amount of Nate Silver, and I can say with almost 100% certainty that he has made no such prediction. Mostly because his gig is calculating how polls reflect actual votes, and he has continued to say that it is way to early to make any poll-based predictions about how the primaries will turn out. Show me the link if I'm wrong.
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There is nothing in there about the Cruz runaway, and even though he thinks Trump has slim odds, I don't read any of those as an adiment prediction that he won't win. (For what it's worth, I think the threat of a Trump win is highly exaggerated.)
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Well, I held my nose and watched the Trump advert. He's in this race for keeps, not for show. The advert is calculated. It is designed to play on fears and advertise him as "the strong man".
I'm with LeRoc re the GOP nomination. The genie is out of the bottle.
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Originally posted by Doublethink.:
The petition to ban Trump from the UK has now reached over 85,000 signatures - at 10,000 the government has to give some kind of response, at 100,000 it has to be considered for debate in parliament.
The petition (569,470 signatures) is going to be debated in parliament on January 18!
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simontoad
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Oh dear. Now I'm scared about Trump again.
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One thing that worries me is that if there is a big atrocity by IS, especially on American soil, will this produce a shift towards Trump? It might not, as plenty of people might still think, we need somebody sensible here, who will not want to drop a nuclear bomb, or intern Muslims, or whatever Trump would want to do.
But I guess that IS crave a Trump presidency.
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How about this headline in the New Yorker. I assume it's meant to be a spoof. After all, isn't that what the President is supposed to do?
"Republicans Accuse Obama of Using Position as President to Lead Country"
With statements like that he is “cynically and systematically using his position as President to lead the country”, can this poor man do a thing right?
Going back to the Trump debate in the UK Parliament, my prediction is that there's no likelihood of his actually getting banned. Banning an ally's presidential candidate will be regarded by too many MPs as a step too far, and also as playing into his campaign's hands. However, he will be criticised by everybody, especially those who vote against banning him if it actually gets put to a vote, which it probably won't. I think it's fair to say that there's nobody in the UK political establishment who views the prospect of having to deal with President Trump with anything other than horror.
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The latest contribution from Mr Ignorant, himself was this gem: quote:
Man shot inside Paris police station. Just announced that terror threat is at highest level. Germany is a total mess-big crime. GET SMART!
Surely, he is the pinnacle of American erudition.
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Originally posted by Enoch:
How about this headline in the New Yorker. I assume it's meant to be a spoof. After all, isn't that what the President is supposed to do?
"Republicans Accuse Obama of Using Position as President to Lead Country"
With statements like that he is “cynically and systematically using his position as President to lead the country”, can this poor man do a thing right?
Borowitz is the New Yorker's resident satirist, although I can't tell you how many times his stuff has shown up on my Facebook news feed as "real news". This one was actually from three years ago, after Sandy Hook. The Representative "quoted" apparently was one of the guys who proposed eliminating gun free school zones in hopes that armed teachers and parents might be able to stop a mass shooting.
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Originally posted by Enoch:
Going back to the Trump debate in the UK Parliament, my prediction is that there's no likelihood of his actually getting banned. Banning an ally's presidential candidate will be regarded by too many MPs as a step too far, and also as playing into his campaign's hands. However, he will be criticised by everybody, especially those who vote against banning him if it actually gets put to a vote, which it probably won't. I think it's fair to say that there's nobody in the UK political establishment who views the prospect of having to deal with President Trump with anything other than horror.
I rather liked the Government's official comment, which was that the Home Secretary is just as troubled by Donald Trump's statements as the rest of you, but Parliament typically does not weigh in on individual immigration cases, for good reason.
(I know that the online petition thing that the USA and UK have tried in the last few years came from a good place, but they really should have seen it turning into the mess that it is today. They had to raise the threshold for presidential comment to avoid Obama having to hold a weekly address on deporting Justin Bieber or other nonsense or joke petitions that went viral.)
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