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Brenda Clough
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I envision the vice-presidential slot as a way to flush unpleasant pols out of a state without having to have an election. Certainly Alaska is now Palin-free, and Indiana has foisted Pence off onto the rest of the country. I know that people in New Jersey are in despair, still stuck with Chris Christie.
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Hedgehog
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No rule without an exception: Delaware remains quite fond of Joe Biden.
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Crœsos
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
Oh, I do hope that he pulls out of the governor race and only then has the rug jerked out from under him by Trump. It would be just like the Donald, to suddenly name Chris Christie.
He almost did, at least according to anonymous "sources".
For those with a more adolescent sense of humor, fun is being had with the new Trump-Pence logo [sort of NSFW].
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Brenda Clough
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Originally posted by Hedgehog:
No rule without an exception: Delaware remains quite fond of Joe Biden.
Yes, and there's Paul Ryan, whom they still have around their necks. Clearly not a perfect system.
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And we still have John McCain as a Senator in Arizona -- and he's running again this year, but with more competition than he's had in the past, so perhaps we'll be rid of him soon.
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Stercus Tauri
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The Roman Catholics have Peter's Pence. Is Donald's Pence a cunning ploy to solve the fundraising problem?
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mousethief
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Originally posted by Crœsos:
For those with a more adolescent sense of humor, fun is being had with the new Trump-Pence logo [sort of NSFW].
I've seen an animated GIF version with, um, rhythmic action going on. I was unable to find a linkable version, which is probably as well.
[ 15. July 2016, 22:22: Message edited by: mousethief ]
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Crœsos
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Originally posted by mousethief:
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Originally posted by Crœsos:
For those with a more adolescent sense of humor, fun is being had with the new Trump-Pence logo [sort of NSFW].
I've seen an animated GIF version with, um, rhythmic action going on. I was unable to find a linkable version, which is probably as well.
Here ya go!
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Originally posted by Crœsos:
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Originally posted by mousethief:
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Originally posted by Crœsos:
For those with a more adolescent sense of humor, fun is being had with the new Trump-Pence logo [sort of NSFW].
I've seen an animated GIF version with, um, rhythmic action going on. I was unable to find a linkable version, which is probably as well.
Here ya go!
Oh no. The one I saw, that T was pounding that P so hard it juddered and repeatedly knocked the bottom red stripe out of place.
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Golden Key
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Talk show host Stephen Colbert is helpfully providing us with Convention Bingo! That one is for next week's Republican convention, and you can reload to get various versions. There will also be one for the Democratic convention.
![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
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Love it!
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Golden Key
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![[Smile]](smile.gif) Stephen did suggest it might be used for a drinking game. Personally, I'm probably going to stock up on bits of dark chocolate.
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It should be an eventful convention, especially in the "event zone" outside the main arena, where the police have banned "offensive weapons" like tennis balls, but you are free to carry your own submachine gun . Only in America!
At least one Australian TV station (SBS) plans to broadcast the event live, so there is some interest here.
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RuthW
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I got an email at work a few days ago saying that the offices of the United Church of Christ are going to be closed next week, as they're within the "security zone," whatever that is. My boss says they're pretty much right across the street from the arena. Seems like a good week to put your home up for rent on Airbnb and take a vacation somewhere else if you live in Cleveland.
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RuthW
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Also: something something don't want to litter up the Turkish coup thread with - yesterday on the radio they were giving Obama's reaction to the attempted coup, then Clinton's, and finally Trump's. Obama and Clinton sensibly condemned it. Trump said the Turks were taking their country back, like the Americans will in November.
Up to that point I'd been thinking how grateful I am to live in a country with a couple hundred years' history of peaceful governmental transitions.
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Golden Key
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Tukai--
And the new Black Panther party may be bringing guns.
With all the obvious horrible possibilities, inside and outside the convention, the Republican convention may make the 1968 Democratic convention look like a chorus of "Kum by yah".
![[Paranoid]](graemlins/paranoid.gif) ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
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lilBuddha
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Violence at the convention will strengthen Trump.
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RuthW
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Depends on how it goes down and how it is portrayed in the media - it depends on who appear to be the instigators. If pro-Trump people are violent, it will reflect badly on him. If anti-Trump protestor are violent, it could drive away fence-sitting voters. It it all just looks like a clusterfuck, it could damage him - American voters in general don't like chaos.
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Barnabas62
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Originally posted by RuthW:
Also: something something don't want to litter up the Turkish coup thread with - yesterday on the radio they were giving Obama's reaction to the attempted coup, then Clinton's, and finally Trump's. Obama and Clinton sensibly condemned it. Trump said the Turks were taking their country back, like the Americans will in November.
Up to that point I'd been thinking how grateful I am to live in a country with a couple hundred years' history of peaceful governmental transitions.
Seriously, that is scary. What sort of a man is he to talk in such inflammatory terms, to make such vile comparisons? He really is a poisonous piece of shit.
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Originally posted by Barnabas62:
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Originally posted by RuthW:
Also: something something don't want to litter up the Turkish coup thread with - yesterday on the radio they were giving Obama's reaction to the attempted coup, then Clinton's, and finally Trump's. Obama and Clinton sensibly condemned it. Trump said the Turks were taking their country back, like the Americans will in November.
Up to that point I'd been thinking how grateful I am to live in a country with a couple hundred years' history of peaceful governmental transitions.
Seriously, that is scary. What sort of a man is he to talk in such inflammatory terms, to make such vile comparisons? He really is a poisonous piece of shit.
My understanding is that it was a tweet from a spoof Twitter account. I can't find any evidence of it apart from that. None of which invalidates your final sentence, of course.
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Huia
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Thanks for that Brenda - I knew he had a bankruptcy or two in his past, but six and several near misses ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
He has obviously been able to persuade people to keep investing in him, I think that is the worrying part.
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romanlion
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Originally posted by Huia:
Thanks for that Brenda - I knew he had a bankruptcy or two in his past, but six and several near misses
Is bankruptcy illegal?
Is everyone who files for bankruptcy worthy of the scorn you heap on Trump?
How many people do you suppose made a living in those "bankrupt" casinos while they were open?
Should bankruptcy laws even apply to casinos, and is it Trump's fault that they do?
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Brenda Clough
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Bankruptcy isn't illegal, but it is clearly a problem when Trump is touting his marvelous business skills and how he's sooo rich. If he's so amazing and successful a businessman, he should be going to the bankruptcy well so often. He is leaving others (the investors, mainly) holding the bag while he wriggles free.
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romanlion
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quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
Bankruptcy isn't illegal, but it is clearly a problem when Trump is touting his marvelous business skills and how he's sooo rich.
So it would be better if he just printed his own money, year after year spending more regardless of his circumstance, and leave the balance for his grandchildren to pay either directly or through the dramatic devaluation of the currency they operate in?
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lilBuddha
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Originally posted by romanlion:
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
Bankruptcy isn't illegal, but it is clearly a problem when Trump is touting his marvelous business skills and how he's sooo rich.
So it would be better if he just printed his own money, year after year spending more regardless of his circumstance, and leave the balance for his grandchildren to pay either directly or through the dramatic devaluation of the currency they operate in?
He essentially did just that. He built the impression of value for his enterprises and chased in before they crashed. Even shuffling his personal debt to the corporations. He had to be bailed out by daddy even then.
Yeah, perfect business man.
But business is a faulty analogue for running a government. Only a complete moron would think so. So far he has shown no evidence that he can mange the proper task either. He has shown little knowledge of the job and cannot even keep a train of though on track for one paragraph.
Yeah, wonderful candidate.
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Huia
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Of course bankruptcy isn't illegal, and no I am not sitting in judgement of everyone who declares themselves bankrupt. Six times does sound like rather a lot though.
I know the laws covering bankruptcy here are different from those in the US, but I have never heard of anyone declaring bankruptcy 6 times and for me at least it be of concern that such a person would be running for a high office.
Would the workers who made a living be paid their full wages under a chapter 11 bankruptcy? Here it seems to me that they are the worst affected.
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lilBuddha
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Not completely familiar with the workings of bankruptcy, but IIRC, workers who keep their jobs will be paid the same. Depending on the circumstances, some may be fired. Those fired are entitled to their earned wages. Creditors get in line, largest generally seem to have priority. Though this may be due in part to the way the debt was structured. And, of course, to the knowledge of their legal counsel.
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romanlion
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
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Originally posted by romanlion:
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
Bankruptcy isn't illegal, but it is clearly a problem when Trump is touting his marvelous business skills and how he's sooo rich.
So it would be better if he just printed his own money, year after year spending more regardless of his circumstance, and leave the balance for his grandchildren to pay either directly or through the dramatic devaluation of the currency they operate in?
He essentially did just that.
So he's perfectly qualified for the job then?
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romanlion
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Originally posted by Huia:
I know the laws covering bankruptcy here are different from those in the US, but I have never heard of anyone declaring bankruptcy 6 times...
Trump has never file for bankruptcy, just fyi.
Had Berkshire Hathaway been called "Buffett Hathaway" would you have the same opinion of bankruptcy law?
It would have actually been cheaper for those businesses to just fold rather than go through chapter 11, but bankruptcy kept a lot of people working.
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lilBuddha
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Originally posted by romanlion:
It would have actually been cheaper for those businesses to just fold rather than go through chapter 11, but bankruptcy kept a lot of people working.
Right. They did it for the little guy. Or perhaps, just perhaps, they did it for their own advantage. No, couldn't be that, could it?
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So he's perfectly qualified for the job then?
Yeah, that is what I said. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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romanlion
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
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Originally posted by romanlion:
So he's perfectly qualified for the job then?
Yeah, that is what I said.
Well he should fit right in with what you consider sound policy...
The financial bits should be old hat for him.
Spend it till you're out, then print it...
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lilBuddha
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Originally posted by romanlion:
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
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Originally posted by romanlion:
So he's perfectly qualified for the job then?
Yeah, that is what I said.
Well he should fit right in with what you consider sound policy...
The financial bits should be old hat for him.
Spend it till you're out, then print it...
If your could do the work and show me where I said what I thought was sound policy?
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Originally posted by romanlion:
Trump has never file for bankruptcy, just fyi.
That much is true. It was not Trump personally who declared bankruptcy. It was Trump Taj Mahal (1991), Trump Plaza Hotel (1992), Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts (2004), and then its successor Trump Entertainment Resorts (2009) that declared bankruptcy.
I'd just as soon not take my chances with Trump USA.
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My apologies if this has already been discussed. I've been too busy to follow this thread recently and don't want to search through 76 pages.
Do any shipmates know anything about these allegations about Mr Trump which seems here to have slipped in under the radar?
Even though they are only allegations, if there's anything behind them, I would have thought they ought to be regarded as very serious.
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Golden Key
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Enoch--
The allegations were discussed--within the last few pages, I think, if you want to check that out.
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Crœsos
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quote:
Originally posted by Nick Tamen:
quote:
Originally posted by romanlion:
Trump has never file for bankruptcy, just fyi.
That much is true. It was not Trump personally who declared bankruptcy. It was Trump Taj Mahal (1991), Trump Plaza Hotel (1992), Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts (2004), and then its successor Trump Entertainment Resorts (2009) that declared bankruptcy.
I'd just as soon not take my chances with Trump USA.
Trump has already indicated he plans to take the U.S. through "bankruptcy", despite the fact that his plan would be both blatantly unconstitutional and almost certain to raise the cost of U.S. borrowing. The U.S. can essentially borrow money for free at this point. It also has a lot of infrastructure that needs repair and employment that is still kind of "soft" in the wake of the 2008 financial crash. That seems like exactly the time to run up a lot more debt, which can be paid back later by a country with a larger GDP.
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A news story today in Huffington Post was taken from the New Yorker: "Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All". Tony Schwartz is the ghostwriter who actually wrote "The Art of the Deal", and he has some things to say about Trump.
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Crœsos
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Originally posted by HCH:
A news story today in Huffington Post was taken from the New Yorker: "Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All". Tony Schwartz is the ghostwriter who actually wrote "The Art of the Deal", and he has some things to say about Trump.
Link
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Originally posted by Enoch:
My apologies if this has already been discussed. I've been too busy to follow this thread recently and don't want to search through 76 pages.
Do any shipmates know anything about these allegations about Mr Trump which seems here to have slipped in under the radar?
Even though they are only allegations, if there's anything behind them, I would have thought they ought to be regarded as very serious.
quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
Enoch--
The allegations were discussed--within the last few pages, I think, if you want to check that out.
They were discussed on page 71, starting about halfway down.
This was the first I had heard of these allegations. Facially, they appear to have some credibility, as they fit known fact patterns regarding Jeffrey Epstein, a convicted pedophile, and his association with Trump. After doing some research, however, there are too many red flags in this case to make it believable at this point. It has a lot of shades of the UVA rape debacle, and I understand why the mainstream media is taking a hands-off approach to it.
See the following for more information:
http://jezebel.com/heres-how-that-wild-lawsuit-accusing-trump-of-raping-a-1782447083
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/07/donald-trump-sexual-assault-lawsuits-norm-lubow
http://jezebel.com/the-source-pushing-the-trump-rape-lawsuits-may-not-be-w-1783270283
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Yahoo News has ongoing diaries from people at the Republican convention.
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Yahoo News has enlisted participants at the Republican National Convention representing different viewpoints and roles to file daily diary entries on their experiences in Cleveland. They will be your eyes and ears at one of the most unconventional political gatherings in generations, offering a front-row seat on the convention floor, behind-the-scenes access to key political meetings and a vivid picture of what conventions are really like, both inside and outside the arena. We’re excited to bring you these first entries. Check back in the following days for more.
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Following the debacle this afternoon, I suggest moving all discussion of the Republican National Convention to the Circus. It seems like the appropriate board.
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Golden Key
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Watching the convention on PBS. Sen. Tom Cotton, Arkansas, just gave a speech. Kept saying "help is on the way"...which is what Democrat John Kerry did, during his ill-fated presidential campaign. Didn't anyone check Cotton's speech, first?
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I've just heard the BBC broadcasting sections of Melania's speech, which should have been run through one of those plagiarism spotting programs, since they very closely matched a speech by Michelle Obama as Barack Obama was selected to run for the Democrats eight years ago, which the BBC also broadcast.
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Yes, I just saw that on local news. They ran a clip of Melania, then then related clip of Michelle; then the next clip of Melania...
Other than that, I suspect she might be a much better politician than Trump, from watching her.
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Originally posted by romanlion:
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Originally posted by Huia:
Thanks for that Brenda - I knew he had a bankruptcy or two in his past, but six and several near misses
Is bankruptcy illegal?
Is everyone who files for bankruptcy worthy of the scorn you heap on Trump?
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When they run for President of the United States, yes that will happen.
Until then, people will focus on the guy who says he will make a great president because he's great at business and actually isn't.
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Here's an article discussing the alleged plagiarism, which includes a link to the Trump campaign's initial statement on the subject.
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"In writing her beautiful speech, Melania's team of writers took notes on her life’s inspirations, and in some instances included fragments that reflected her own thinking. Melania’s immigrant experience and love for America shone through in her speech, which made it such a success.”
-Jason Miller, Senior Communications Advisor
One the bright side, "Jason Miller" seems to be an actual person who really exists. Note that in best political weaselspeak, the statement doesn't actually address the issue of plagiarism except obliquely with a reference to "fragments that reflected her own thinking".
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Did Melania Trump Rickroll the Republican National Convention?
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He will never, ever give up. And, most importantly, he will never, ever let you down.
For comparison.
At what point are we forced to conclude that the alleged "Republican Party" is one giant practical joke / performance art piece?
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As others have pointed out, this group of people and advisors and the person at the top are running for an office that includes access to the nuclear codes.
Disparaging Clinton isn't difficult but suggesting this group of yahoos get access to the ability to decide, either through choice or accident, to destroy the world or not is ludicrous.
They are incompetent in the one job where you need competence or we all die.
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