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Thread: Book of Remembrance
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Curiosity killed ...
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Reading Malachi and Revelation this week I noticed the reference in Malachi 3.16-17 to a book of remembrance, which as described has echoes of the book of life in Revelation 20.12. The references in the Bibles I have to hand all refer the book of life reference back to Daniel 7.9-10. From what I have to hand Malachi predates Daniel.
Why is the Malachi reference not given as a footnote to the Revelation account? What don't I know / what am I missing here?
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Anselm
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
what am I missing here?
Perhaps a Bible with a good cross-reference ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
ISTM that both the OT passages could be behind the Revelation reference.
Notice that in the Revelation passage there are "the books" and "another book...the Book of Life".
The 'books' are the records of the deeds of all people - perhaps echoing the idea of Daniel 7 - it is the basis of a just judgement of all people.
But the "Book of Life" is a list of those who 'fear the LORD' or entrust themselves to the Christ and they are the ones who are saved from the coming judgement.
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Dovetail
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But the "Book of Life" is a list of those who 'fear the LORD' or entrust themselves to the Christ and they are the ones who are saved from the coming judgement.
The Book of Life includes names written before the conception of a Savior was known to the world and includes those who reject Christ's first visit because God has blinded them (they might have their names written in other books as well). The Book of Life is those who have FAITH and OBEY and is different from the Lamb's Book of Life..
Rev 17:8
The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Rev 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Those who "put on Christ" are not in the Book of Life, but in the Lamb's Book of Life.
The people in the Lamb's book have FAITH and accept/OBEY Christ as their Lord and Savior.
Both books were written from the foundation of the world.
I am not in the Book of Life.
I am in the Lamb's Book of Life.
This is why Christ took the punishment/curses and became a "Life giving Spirit".
Why would he need to give you life if you already had it (name written in the Book of Life).
This, of course, doesn't mean we can do as we please. We are subject to Christ's law.
Gal 6:2
Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
Love your enemy
Bless those who curse you and persecute you
enmity with the world
You are a bondservant to Christ and have to obey to keep in His good grace or suffer.
1 Cor 5:5
To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
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Lamb Chopped
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I think your ref note makes just missed a passage.
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Curiosity killed ...
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The RSV usually lists a number of references to verses if they recognise them, which was one of the Bibles I checked, and nary a mention. Which Bibles do cross reference this text?
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churchgeek
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Now I wish I had references for this, but I do recall from past learnings/readings that books in heaven was a fairly common theme/belief in antiquity. The gods had books that contained human fates, for example (although I can't give a concrete example). This is even reflected (as I understand it) in the Muslim belief that the Qu'ran has existed from all eternity as a book in heaven and was dictated to Muhammed by the angel.
Not that that's helpful for specific books mentioned in Revelation or elsewhere, but it seems like an interesting bit of context. Maybe someone else can give some examples or can tell me I'm remembering this all wrong?
Often the interesting thing in biblical passages that are similar to extrabiblical sources (such as similar myths from other cultures - the flood stories, e.g.) is the difference(s) between those accounts. So it would be interesting to note whether the Lamb's Book of Life is one that was already written from the beginning of time, or is one that is being written in.
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