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ArachnidinElmet
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
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Originally posted by ArachnidinElmet:
I saw Logan last night. It really is very good; it's unlike any of the other Marvel films and, I suspect, what DC would like their films to look like.

They need to hire, and listen to, writers more than they need fancy directors. Seriously. This is why PIXAR was kicking Disney's arse until they merged. Story is king.
You're not wrong. That would explain why the most logical and consistent superhero film is The Incredibles.

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Indignation.

Based on a Philip Roth novel about a young, New York-area Jewish man attending college in smalltown Ohio in the early 1950s.

If it's not too much of a SPOILER...

One thing I liked about the film is that after the first ten minutes, you pretty much know how it's all gonna end up, and so you can have fun ticking off the list of things that the main character does to make that eventuality come true.

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Get Out.

A young white woman takes her black boyfriend to meet her family for the first time, and they don't know he's black.

Best seen knowing as little as possible.

It was great. Thrilling, scary, funny. Well performed. Both my wife and I enjoyed it.

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I went to see "A United Kingdom" where a black man brings his white wife home to Africa and his relatives and the highest level of the British government tells them to "Get out!"

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[Big Grin]

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Originally posted by Bene Gesserit:
We watched Doctor Strange yesterday, and loved every moment. It's certainly different from other Marvel films.

Yes, Dr. Strange was a lot of fun.

My other two recent movies were:

The Lego Batman Movie. It plays with the tradition and has a number of references to the old 60s TV series with Adam West, which I appreciated.

Masterminds, a comedy from 2016 that didn't have much impact at the theaters but has a great cast including Kristen Wiig and Zach Galifiniakis. It's about a huge armored-car heist that actually happened in 1997 and let's say the title is highly ironic.

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My wife and I were invited by a group to see The Shack. We have heard from some folks that the book was good and that's about all we knew about it. We found it far more intense than we expected.

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Originally posted by Mere Nick:
My wife and I were invited by a group to see The Shack. We have heard from some folks that the book was good and that's about all we knew about it. We found it far more intense than we expected.

Was the film good/ bad? How?

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Originally posted by Mere Nick:
My wife and I were invited by a group to see The Shack. We have heard from some folks that the book was good and that's about all we knew about it. We found it far more intense than we expected.

Was the film good/ bad? How?
We seem to think it was good. I suppose we thought going in it would be something light and entertaining to watch while we spent a pleasant evening with some of the members of a nearby congregation who had invited us. I was probably thinking it would be something along the line of a spiritual Hallmark type of movie, or maybe something like Touched by An Angel, Highway to Heaven, something like that. It was actually much more intense and dealt with the types of things we think about between the time our head hits the pillow and we fall asleep.

A family's youngest daughter is abducted and killed while the family is on a camping trip. Blood stains and the dress she was wearing are located in a shack. The father, especially, is in severe mental and emotional agony because he blames himself and blames God for not protecting her. He later goes back to the shack and has an encounter with personifications of the trinity. They show and teach him how they look at things that happen and the people involved.

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Thank you.

It sounds as though you haven't read the book - I read about half before getting annoyed by it and abandoning it. So I wondered how the film version might compare.

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No, I haven't read the book. I looked up the book in wikipedia and the plot of the book, as described in wikipedia, appears to be very close to the movie.

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I just got to see Hidden Figures, about the black women mathematicians at NASA in the 1960s - wonderful film! I highly recommend it.
I'd love to see more films with mainly black casts, too.
There are some very good actors in this one - plus the chap who plays Sheldon Cooper in The Big Bang Theory, as an engineer being generally unpleasant to Katherine, the main character, and Kevin Costner leading the project (I haven't watched any of his films since the terrible Robin Hood one, but he was really good here).
I loved the way Dorothy Vaughan got "her girls" into the IBM computing section so they didn't lose their jobs as "computers" too.
And the romance subplot between Katherine and Jim was really sweet.

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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
OMG, Stetson, have you seen "Maggie's Plan"?

Synopsis: Greta Gerwig gets involved with a married man (Ethan Hawke),then three years later falls out of love with him and tries to hand him back to his ex wife (Julianne Moore, rocking a painfully phony German accent. But hey, it's a comedy [Big Grin] )

I thought of this because of your just professed love of slacker films and this one is like Jim Jarmusch meets Woody Allen. And I love Greta Gerwig. She is such an adorable schlemiel.

Anyhow, it really has that old school golden era of indie film feel, complete with ska soundtrack.

Watched it a couple of weeks back. Yeah, it was good, I'll give it 7.5 out of 10.

I liked the motif of slackers and their preoccupations having progressed into academia, though I did find myself wondering how much of that was exaggeration, and how much of it was possibly an accurate reflection of current intellectual concerns. Is the professor's field of "ficto-critical anthropology[or whatever it was]" a real thing, for example? I liked the Greta Gerwig character having some job that involved the commercialization of rarefied academic pursuits.

And yeah, Gerwig is pretty adorable. Even before recognizing her, the film was reminding me of Frances Ha, in a good way, and I think that was largely due to her performance.

And the sperm-donor character was classic slacker- film.

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A friend twisted my arm into seeing The Shack. I refused to read the book when it was being used for discussion in my (and many others) church.

The beginning was a bit confusing. (Is that the grown boy, or is it that other person?) However, I did catch up eventually to who and what was going on.

I had been warned to have a hanky and I'm glad I took that advice to heart. Surprise! I did really like the movie! God being played by a black woman totally warmed my heart!

The big lessons I learned were:
  • I am not in charge.
  • I am not the judge of anyone.

Not a bad takeaway from a movie, I would say.

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The Founder. Michael Keaton as Ray Kroc, long-time CEO of McDonalds.

Manages to transcend the usual parameters of the quickie biopic, ending up as a lightly cynical takedown of the rags-to-riches mythos. You can think of it as another entrant into the Dark Side Of The American Dream genre, but not caustic enough to deeply offend any true believers who happen to have wandered into the theatre.

Interesting that in the "Where They All Ended Up" section at the end, it it stated that Kroc's last wife donated a lot of money to National Public Radio. NPR being the sort of thing generally beloved by people who would agree with the script's negative assessment of dog-eat-dog capitalism.

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The Imitation Game about how Alan Turing saved us from an extra 2 years of war.

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Jersey Boys.

Clint Eastwood-directed biopic about the Four Seasons. Made me remember that I never really liked most of their songs. That lead singer's falsetto kinda grates on my nerves.

But interesting as kind of a light-gangster flick. Those guys were apparently mixed up with the mob, largely via the legal and financial problems of one of their members. That aspect kept the story going at a tolerable pace.

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Nocturnal Animals.

Story-within-a-story plot about a woman reading her ex-husband's violent-crime manuscript, and her reaction to it.

As is often the case with dual-narratives or stories-within-stories, you get the impression that neither plot line would be interesting on its own(even though one of them is supposed to be a stand-alone novel), but the writers figured that putting them together would somehow redeem the banality of both.

As well, the overall effect works by that annoying trick(which Hitchcock once publicaly criticized) of with-holding information from the viewer that is available to the characters. We KNOW there must be a reason why the woman seems so disturbed by her husband's otherwise generic crime writing, something related to her past, but since she is never shown talking about it, we have to spend the whole film wondering what it might be. Until the script makes the arbitrary decision to show it to us in a flashback near the end.

Those complaints aside, if you are willing to accept the manipulative nature of the set-up, it's a fairly entertaining, and at times rather eerie, ride. Probably most effective when it veers into horror territory a few times.

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Get Out.

I'd say it's the best horror-film I've seen in years, but that would be from the perspective of someone who more-or-less gave up on the genre a long time ago. But even with that caveat, I'd still rate it pretty high.

Quick synopsis: Black guy goes to visit the family of his white liberal girlfriend, only to find that they are not quite as welcoming and tolerant as they might appear(to put it mildly). The acerbic social satire deftly manages to avoid blunting the pleasingly eerie atmosphere.

One issue I have with the execution of the story...

In a horror film where unreal things are happening, the explanation is inevitably going to involve either a) science-fiction, or b) the supernatural. Without giving away which route this particular films takes, I will say that I think they'd have done better to go with the other one. YMMV.

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watched The red turtle on dvd over the weekend excellent film. Highly recommended. French/dutch/japanese but as it is a silent film no worry about subtitles.
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Welcome to the Ship of Fools, louis crandall! Heaven is a great place for a first post and I hope you'll check out all the other boards!

Be sure to check out The Ten Commandments and if you'd like to introduce yourself we have a dedicated Welcome thread here.

I hope you enjoy your voyage with us.
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The Book Thief about a girl who steals books to read to a Jew she is hiding in Nazi Germany.

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Very appropriate for a film thread [Biased]

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[Big Grin]
So true!

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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
I saw La La Land and enjoyed it very much. A true original movie musical that isn't animated -- those are rare. Emma Stone is luminous, truly beautiful in it.

I also saw The Magnificent Seven, the remake starring Denzel Washington. Awful. That's ninety minutes of my life gone; thank goodness I had my knitting.

sadly the fact that this was a remake of a classic movie should warn folks off. that being said I also own the film it was a remake of - the seven samurai
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Moana

A Disney princess movie with no love interest. Finally!

Good songs. Good humour. Fantastic introduction to the fact that Pacific islanders explored an enormous ocean and settled almost every island in that ocean using fleets of large catamarans*. Rather knocks on the head any idea of them being primitive savages. Sadly, the movie also panders to stereotypes but I think that the positives outweigh the negatives.

* AIUI the largest Pacific catamarans were longer than the European exploration ships. And they sailed in fleets. New Zealand is believed to have been settled in seven waves of colonisation around about 1100 AD, and you only need to look at a map of the Pacific to see how many thousands of miles the settlers had to sail to get to New Zealand from the nearest island groups.

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Moana got mixed reaction from the Pacific Island communities, of which I am part. Many were pleased to see some characters who were like them or their relatives; every islander has a feisty grandmother or aunt like Moana's in the film. The village scenes and sounds had a strong feel of Samoa. And it was, as you say,good to see the skills of Pacific navigators (some of whom were indeed women) recognised. The biggest concerns were about the rather cartoonish demi-god and how he was portrayed.

The Marama and I went to a very different film last week, namely The Viceroy's House, about the partition of India in 1947, into the two new independent countries of India and Pakistan. As well as showing some of the politicians and civil servants in discussions and riots on the streets, the film-maker, Gurinder Chadhna (some of whose family died in the chaos of those events) brought the tensions to a human scale by portraying a [fictitious] doomed love affair "below stairs" between a Moslem woman and a Hindu man, who were both among the thousands of servants in the Viceroy's House.

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Before I Fall.

Groundhog Day, minus the comedy, combined with the setting, mood, and characters of Twilight. Probably rates about a 7/10 if you are in the target demographic(see the above Twilight reference.)

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The Lego Batman Movie

Love the Lego Movie and there was nothing that indicated that I would not enjoy the Lego Batman Movie. It was pretty entertaining. There was nothing wrong with them doing every superhero cliche since they basically making fun of themselves throughout the movie. Oh, and there are a few jabs against Marvel here and there.

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Welcome to the Ship, aizen! I'm glad you stuck your toe in here! Heaven's a great place to get your feet wet!

You may wish to go to the Welcome Aboard thread in All Saints to let other Shipmates know that you are aboard.

I hope you enjoy the voyage with us!

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Welcome to the Ship, aizen! I'm glad you stuck your toe in here! Heaven's a great place to get your feet wet!

You may wish to go to the Welcome Aboard thread in All Saints to let other Shipmates know that you are aboard.

I hope you enjoy the voyage with us!

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Thank you for the welcome message sir. Will do sir. Again thank you for the warm welcome.
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Guardians of the Galaxy 2. A lot of fun, non-stop excitement, not much in the way of anything deeper (though it does sort of delve into the meaning of family), but a lot of fun.

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Guardians of the Galaxy 2. A lot of fun, non-stop excitement, not much in the way of anything deeper (though it does sort of delve into the meaning of family), but a lot of fun.

I would add the caveat that one thing that made the original such a delight was the surprise of how it worked. This is not such a novelty in the sequel. Still well worth the watch.

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A bit out of date here as I don't really go to the cinema and generally only watch DVDs - this week I splurged on the DVD of the Ab-Fab movie which really is pretty terrible but there were some fun moments - and June Whitfield is still the best of the bunch!

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Who has seen Wonder Woman? Thoughts?

I saw it with my daughter and some friends last night and really enjoyed it although, as always with superhero movies, the action scenes bored me (not the filmmakers' fault; it's just how my brain is wired). It's a very well-done version of the superhero movie genre that really does right by its main character -- making her as fully rounded and complex as a demigod/superhero can be, keeping the focus on her own character development rather than on her male love interest. Quite enjoyable.

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Yes, we saw Wonder Woman yesterday. I liked the action scenes (must be how *my* brain is wired [Razz] ) and I thought that Gal Gadot did an extremely good job - as well as being hugely beautiful she made the character very believable and rounded. I stayed interested in the character, and I could also understand every word she said, which I certainly can't do with some other actor superheroes - Iron Man, for example.

I believe there is a sequel planned. I look forward to it [Yipee]

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I saw Wonder Woman, too. It was very enjoyable! The fight scenes were amazing, and WW's development as a very innocent person outside of her native environment was believable and entertaining. ("Oh! A baby!!") The moment she realized she couldn't be a bully was very satisfying.

Looking forward to the next movie!

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I saw Wonder Woman as well. I very much enjoyed the film, so take the comments below with this in mind.
For the most part, I liked most of the action scenes. The exception being the climactic battle. Way OTT. But, considering superhero films lately, the action was understated.
Some of the physics were just plain wrong. Not the worst I have ever seen, but noticeably not correct.
There were a few pieces of the story that didn't fit.
I have one stronger criticism that I will not detail, because spoilers are evil.

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lilBuddha:
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Some of the physics were just plain wrong. Not the worst I have ever seen, but noticeably not correct.
Only some? The woman leaps hundreds of feet in a single bound! This is a scifi-fantasy after all. I don't know if I could enjoy any comic book movie without turning off my believeability meter. If I can believe the physics of the universe of the story, I'm a happy camper.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
lilBuddha:
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Some of the physics were just plain wrong. Not the worst I have ever seen, but noticeably not correct.
Only some? The woman leaps hundreds of feet in a single bound! This is a scifi-fantasy after all. I don't know if I could enjoy any comic book movie without turning off my believeability meter. If I can believe the physics of the universe of the story, I'm a happy camper.
That isn't what I meant. I meant that if a person was capable of jumping great distances, that is not how it would look. If something is launched with power that ends at the launch site, such as jumping, it will immediately begin to decelerate and fall. The arc of travel is dependent on the initial angle, but the downward force is constant despite the velocity at which the object travels. Something we know from experience, even if we don't understand the physics.

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The moment you start applying simple laws of physics to movies you become unhappy. (Why can you hear the explosions of space weaponry in STAR WARS? Sound waves do not carry in vacuum...) It is continual and there is no escape. (Why, when Superman or Iron Man picks up a car, does the metal not rip off in his hands?) Better to utterly suspend disbelief and just go with the flow.

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The moment you start applying simple laws of physics to movies you become unhappy. (Why can you hear the explosions of space weaponry in STAR WARS? Sound waves do not carry in vacuum...) It is continual and there is no escape. (Why, when Superman or Iron Man picks up a car, does the metal not rip off in his hands?) Better to utterly suspend disbelief and just go with the flow.

This is not how it works for me, nor for most people, I expect. We suspend until something jars us. This will be different for everyone and likely not consistent for anyone.
Star Wars represents an anomaly. If the movement of space vehicles were anywhere near realistic, it would ruin the film.

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You and the Night - poorly made film about dead people who hang on to life by having lots of sex - at its first screening, 90% of the audience walked out iothin thr first half hour.

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Just saw Wonder Woman! Loved it, it was exciting,and captivating, and although I'd be hard put to say just how, it was different than a movie directed by a man. Much less jiggle for one thing.

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My Beloved Goddaughter persuaded me to take her to see A Dog's Purpose. It wasn't a film I'd have chosen to see myself, but I took her out of a sense of godmotherly duty.

What can I say? A Dog's Purpose is cliched, schmaltzy, cheesy and has a ridiculous plot. It was so bad that it was actually good. I cried. I laughed. I cried some more. [Hot and Hormonal]

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The Last Match about macho Cuban footballers and stray affections.

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quote:
Originally posted by Nicolemr:
Just saw Wonder Woman! Loved it, it was exciting,and captivating, and although I'd be hard put to say just how, it was different than a movie directed by a man. Much less jiggle for one thing.

For me the biggest difference (and of course it's not to say that a male director couldn't do the same, just that they less often do) is how completely rounded and developed a character Diana, as the main character in her own show, was. She faced the kind of challenges and character growth that we expect of male superheroes in their movies. And Steve, while also a fully-fleshed-out character in his own right, is clearly there to further HER development as a character, which is the role that women normally play in movies about male heroes. It sounds so obvious that in a movie called Wonder Woman, Wonder Woman would actually BE the main character, but it's rare enough to see a female hero portrayed with full complexity and agency that it does stand out within the genre.

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I went and saw "Meghan Leavy" yesterday. It is very inspiring and well done. It is a true story about a young woman who found a new way of connecting with life by becoming a Marine who handled a special bomb-sniffer combat dog. If you aren't crazy about war films, it's maybe not for you. But the Iraq war is just the setting. It is more about Meghan's progress in finding her way into life.

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Daughter-Unit hadn't seen Wonder Woman yet, so we went together yesterday. She's a Marvel comics fan, and really hasn't liked any of the DC movies. Until this one. She loved it, and I really enjoyed seeing it again!

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The Circle. Techno-thriller about an evil Silicon Valley corporation bent on world domination.

Pretty much just a re-make of the 2001 internet-thriller Antitrust, updated for the social media era. Same general plot, setting, characters etc. As such, not particularly cutting edge, making the same basic point as the earlier film.

Fairly standard portrayal of tech-firm culture(officially non-hierarchical, but lots of idolization of the boss), which might have seemed like a novelty in 2001 but not so much now. If you're someone who explicitly thought it would be a good idea for one large corporation to control the whole world including governments, this might serve as a wake-up call.

Tom Hanks seemed to be slumming it a bit in this film. It's the sort of thing I'd more expect to see Nicholas Cage doing.

I'm still gonna give it 7/10, because it works okay within the standards of the middle-brow sociopolitical thriller, and if you don't go in expecting much, you'll probably find yourself suitable entertained for a couple of hours.

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