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This month's book is Golden Hill by Francis Spufford. It was published last year and is out in paperback in the UK.

It is Spufford's first novel. He has previously written several non-fiction books, including The Child that Books Built and Unapologetic.

Golden Hill has been called a tribute to eighteenth century novels such as Tobias Smollett's Roderick Random. I cannot confirm this as I haven't read Smollett.

I believe it is traditional to start conversation on the 20th of the month. Note that there will be a spoiler warning as there are one or two twists in the tale.

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I'm in. This review in The Guardian seems to suggest that this is a novel that will be right up my street. I like picaresque novels, and this is a period of history and a setting I know little of.

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It sounds like my kind of book, and I'll read it if I can get it. Weirdly, my usual outlets for e-books (my preferred format) are telling me I can't get it as an e-book in Canada till June 27. Same for hardcover -- yet Indigo's site suggests I can get it in paperback on January 10. Having a paperback available before the hardcover is so odd it's hard to imagine that's not a mistake, but I'll keep looking.

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Trudy Scrumptious - apologies for not having checked more thoroughly that people would be able to get the book easily. I hope you manage to track it down. I do wish you could buy ebooks from other coutnries, I've had that problems with things I want not yet available in the UK.

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Trudy Scrumptious

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Yes, I'm sure I can order a physical copy of the book sent from the UK, but would really prefer the e-book. Doesn't seem to be a way around that (that I know of, anyway). I will keep searching though.

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I've reserved it from the library so hoping to join in.

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Trudy Scrumptious

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The chain bookstore here (Chapters/Indigo) seems to be sticking to their story that the paperback will be available Jan 10. I've never heard, even with a book published in another country, of the paperback coming out before both the hardcover and the e-book -- but I am going to take them at their word and hope to be able to get it on the 10th.

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It's just been announced that Golden Hill's won the Costa Prize for First Novel.
(For those of you who are put off by books that win prizes, please don't be put off.)

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Trudy Scrumptious

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As I sort of suspected, now that Jan 10 has come, Indigo is showing the paperback as "out of stock." I don't think there's any way I'm going to be able to get it, which is a shame because it really sounds like a book I'd like. I'm sure I'll read it eventually.

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I'm toying with the idea of joining in; I don't normally read literary fiction, but it does sound entertaining. I'll see if I can get it from the library...
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The more the merrier. I hope Trudy finds a copy.

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I'm half-way through it (library copy). It's a slow burn and took me some time to get into - but I love it.

I've read all of Spufford's books and I think it's very slightly unfair that he got the Costa prize for first novel. His unusual portrayal of the Soviet Union "Red Plenty", although basically a book of history, is no far off from being a novel in parts (and I loved it).

"Golden Hill" just cries out to be made into a good BBC Sunday evening drama series - I've even started mentally casting it!

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quote:
Originally posted by Baptist Trainfan:
"Golden Hill" just cries out to be made into a good BBC Sunday evening drama series - I've even started mentally casting it!

I am going to want to know what your casting choices are, and whether they change at all as you read.

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Well, I thought of Lily James (Natasha in the BBC "War and Peace") as Flora. The interesting one to cast will be Tabitha.
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I have managed to obtain an e-copy and will start it probably this evening, as soon as I finish finding out exactly how the Scots did invent the modern world.

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//Does that mean we can blame them for all its failings?

If so, I must inform my (Scottish) wife!//

[ 12. January 2017, 10:36: Message edited by: Baptist Trainfan ]

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What I'm finding fascinating (and I agree with Baptist Trainman that it's taken a while to get into it) is the description of Manhatten at the time.

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I hope to read it when the other half finishes his copy.

I browsed an interesting description of church going in C18 New York, but Spufford is a vicar's husband, putting him in that fine line of vicarage novelists with Austen, Bronte and Sterne.

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No longer the husband of a mere Vicar - she's now a Residentiary Canon at Ely Cathedral!
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Absolutely loving the book so far ... it sucked me in right from the first pages.

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Finished. Oh my. I have very complicated feelings about this book. Can't wait to discuss.

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It's on my Kindle, but no guarantee I'll read it in time for the discussion.

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I'm about half way through. Hopefully I'll finish it in time.

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Just finished it. Like Trudy Scrumptious I can't wait to discuss it.

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I've only got to the bit where he's in prison with a horrific cell-mate. Clearly he gets out or there would be no more story!
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quote:
Originally posted by Baptist Trainfan:
No longer the husband of a mere Vicar - she's now a Residentiary Canon at Ely Cathedral!

And good on the Ely Cathedral website in announcing it and saying nothing of her husband, in the way a wife would be flagged up as an accessory to her husband.

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The discussion will have spoilers. If you haven't finished the book before the discussion starts I suggest you steer clear of the thread unless you like spoilers. One of the big spoilers is in the last chapter.

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Oh yeah there is no way I can discuss this book without discussing the ending. It had a huge impact on how I felt about the book.

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I'm still waiting for my library copy... hoping to be able to join in before the end of the discussion.
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Finished!

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