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My father died this morning, and his last telephone message to Mum is still on the landline answerphone - but will only be saved for another 11 days after today.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone - we did eventually record it.

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Likely just age. Assuming the papyrus disintegrated on the original, here is a PDF instruction manual.

Thanks. The manual is bound to be somewhere, in a folder with others, but I can't get at my somewheres at the moment.
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Originally posted by Sandemaniac:
My father died this morning, and his last telephone message to Mum is still on the landline answerphone - but will only be saved for another 11 days after today.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone - we did eventually record it.

AG

I'm glad to read that.

[ 15. June 2017, 16:49: Message edited by: Penny S ]

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I have now found that other people have had the very same problem, and resolved it, BUT have not posted their solution on the internet. Bah humbug.
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FYI & FWIW:

Happened across these Wed.

"Create a single file to protect yourself from the latest ransomware attack You can vaccinate your system in seconds from the Petya/NonPetya ransomware -- at least, for now." (ZDNet)

"Vaccine, not Killswitch, Found for Petya (NotPetya) Ransomware Outbreak" (Bleeping Computer).

Both articles are about a relatively simple, free way to prevent this ransomware virus. Bleeping Computer also has a vaccine file, here, that you can just download and install, if you prefer.

I went ahead and just downloaded the file. I scanned it with AVG and AdAware, since I'm not that familiar with the site, then installed it.

Per the articles, there's no way (yet) to save your computer if it gets this virus. But this "vaccine" is supposed to work, as long as the originators don't change the source code. The e-mail address for paying ransom has been blocked, so the miscreants aren't going to get paid.

YMMV. IMHO, read the articles before downloading the file.

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I use Comodo Internet Security Premium 10 on a Windows 8 PC. A pop-up appeared, headed 'Comodo Internet Security Essentials' with the text:

quote:

Updates for your Computer are available
Keep your computer protected against Man in the Middle (MitM) attacks.

We recommend that you install this update to stay protected from the latest threats and to ensure the best system performance.

The pop-up box includes buttons for [Update Now] and [Postpone]. There is no [Leave Me Alone and Don't Bother Me Again] option. For now, I am using the 'X' in the corner of the box to dismiss the popup.

The darn thing keeps coming back, like a toddler wanting attention. Unlike most toddlers (eventually), it does not appear to understand the word 'no'. There's a 'Remind me in ...[amount of time]' option, but it does not allow 'when the Devil goes to work on ice skates' as an answer.

I'm confused, because when I open Comodo Internet Security Premium 10 and tell it to update, it says that it is already up to date. This makes me suspicious. I'm a technical ignoramus, but at least I am a mean-spirited, suspicious-minded ignoramus. [Big Grin]

At my most paranoid, I wonder if this is malware trying to get me to install something nasty. In less paranoid moments, I wonder whether Comodo is trying to get me to install a browser extension and, if so, whether the advice I saw which warns against browser extensions is reliable. It could be something perfectly benign, of course - I should allow for the possibility that a software company is being honest and helpful.

Has anyone else had this popup? Can anyone advise me on (a) whether I should install this and (b) if not, how to prevent this popup from endlesslessy popping up? (Presumably, uninstalling Comodo would do it.)

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My friend's Acer (Win 8.1) has decided it exists pre-Wifi, and insists there are no connections available. When I tried, it briefly showed the Wifi possibility by no connections, but then suggested using an ethernet cable, and would not show Wifi as an option. All the trouble shooting reported the network adapter was OK, but, no Wifi option however I went at it. Not in devices, not anywhere.

I assume this is a hardware connection problem, but if anyone has any other idea, it might be helpful.

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The question that immediately pops into mind is: are there any active WiFi hotspots up and running? Are other devices able to connect to WiFi without trouble?

Alwyn, I've never heard of Comodo and so can't help you with your issue. However, again my gut reaction would be to click "Dismiss" rather than "X". But you're right in assuming, for safety's sake, that the nag message might be malicious. I think I would uninstall Comodo and either do a fresh install from the original media or go with a different product.

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Didn't bother to mention the Wifi working since I was using it to send with. All the other computers are having no trouble with the router. I did use the button for making connections on the router, in case that helped, but it didn't.
I've just started up a new laptop and it has no trouble downloading and installing updates, either.
The initial error was that the computer had Wifi but there were no local connections - there are a number as well as mine. Then the computer's Wifi disappeared.

[ 10. July 2017, 13:47: Message edited by: Penny S ]

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Penny S: if it's Win 8.x and the error message is "No Wireless Connections Available" and the WiFi appears totally borked, then the following may help.

This is a common problem on Win 8.x with Asus Transformer netbooks. The solution (read: temporary fix that you will need to do periodically when it borks again) is:

- from an Admin account* open Device Manager (Win+X, Device Manager)

- find the wireless adapter under Network Adapters

- right-click on it and choose "Disable" then confirm you mean it

- right-click on it again and choose "Enable"

Ta-da! Functional WiFi ...

Seems to be an issue with some drivers/hardware initialising properly, and it persists through reboots.

*If you're not signed in as an Admin, then:

- Win+X > "Command Prompt (Admin)"
- supply credentials
- Type "devmgmt.msc" and press enter

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TaDa indeed, and Hallelujah.

It isn't the netbook, but the process has worked, which is great because it is the only machine currently able to log on in a university environment where journals are available.

Thank muchly. I have written up the instructions and left them on the desktop for the user.

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Excellent, and apologies, I wasn't entirely clear. I learnt about this issue courtesy of a fleet of Asus jobbies that we manage for a client. So much so that we have it as a FAQ in their internal knowledgebase.

I had previously assumed it was an Asus/Broadcom issue, but knowing it's happened on an Acer makes me suspect it's a Win 8.x issue.

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It was an Atheros device - forgotten all the details and I'm not on that machine. The name began with a Q, which I recall because the other fault is keys that resist pressure, and q is one of them.

If that helps with the database!

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All info gratefully received and filed [Smile]

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Alwyn, I've never heard of Comodo and so can't help you with your issue. However, again my gut reaction would be to click "Dismiss" rather than "X".

Thanks for replying! My instinct would have been to click 'dismiss' rather than X too, if a 'dismiss' option had been available. However, the only available options (apart from clicking on 'X') were to 'install now' and 'remind me to install later'(!)

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But you're right in assuming, for safety's sake, that the nag message might be malicious. I think I would uninstall Comodo and either do a fresh install from the original media or go with a different product.

Thanks! If anyone has recommendations for antivirus software, I will read them with interest.

[ 14. July 2017, 13:18: Message edited by: Alwyn ]

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quote:
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quote:
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Alwyn, I've never heard of Comodo and so can't help you with your issue. However, again my gut reaction would be to click "Dismiss" rather than "X".

Thanks for replying! My instinct would have been to click 'dismiss' rather than X too, if a 'dismiss' option had been available. However, the only available options (apart from clicking on 'X') were to 'install now' and 'remind me to install later'(!)
Always click the x in the upper left corner of the border of the window of a dubious pop up. The x is generated by the operating system, the buttons within the window are generated by the suspect application and might not represent what they will actually do.
Though a better choice might be to right-click on the corresponding button on the task bar and click the Close Window option.

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Anti-virus software: AVG, and there's a free version.

Ad Aware is good for scanning for other kinds of malware, and blocking ads.

CCCleaner is good for cleaning and repairing.

IME, this is a good, safe place to get free software:

download.cnet.com or download.com. They both go to the same page.

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I used the paid version of AVG until a recent automatic update installed itself. After that, the AVG shield in the system tray displayed a yellow exclamation mark, which is supposed to mean that one or more components is malfunctioning. However, when I opened AVG, it told me that all components were up-to-date and functioning.

So I unintalled AVG and instead paid for and installed McAfee Total Protection v.14. It has behaved flawlessly so far.

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Originally posted by Alwyn:
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Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
Alwyn, I've never heard of Comodo and so can't help you with your issue. However, again my gut reaction would be to click "Dismiss" rather than "X".

Thanks for replying! My instinct would have been to click 'dismiss' rather than X too, if a 'dismiss' option had been available. However, the only available options (apart from clicking on 'X') were to 'install now' and 'remind me to install later'(!)
Always click the x in the upper left corner of the border of the window of a dubious pop up. The x is generated by the operating system, the buttons within the window are generated by the suspect application and might not represent what they will actually do.
Though a better choice might be to right-click on the corresponding button on the task bar and click the Close Window option.

[Hot and Hormonal] Should be upper right corner.

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Thanks for your help, lilBuddha, Golden Key and Amanda B. Reckonodwyth! (It's okay, lilBuddha,I realised that you meant 'upper right hand corner' - and will follow your advice when I see dubious pop-ups).

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Alwyn--

You're welcome. Also, it's a good idea to check around online for comments about and reviews of software before you download it. Your machine and/or problem may need something different. I've had mostly good experiences with the programs I mentioned. I had a lot of bad experiences with Norton/Symantec, Kadinsky, and some others. That's why I finally got AVG. It's not perfect, and some things annoy me, but it's much better than what I had before.

Good luck! [Smile]

ETA: Oh, and if you have more than one anti-virus program on your system, don't run both at the same time. They can clash badly. And sometimes one will interpret the other progam's files as viruses. You can usually tell the checking program that they're not viruses, and to skip them next time.

[ 16. July 2017, 10:36: Message edited by: Golden Key ]

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A couple of times recently I've tried to open a French-language site and my browser has forced it to the English-language version.

Just now, I persevered a bit on one site. Clicking on the French-language flag on the site doesn't work. Hard-coding the URL to remove the /en tag doesn't work. Different browsers and devices don't work. Posting the link in Skype reveals a little "en" above the URL itself in the thumbnail image.

Of course now I've got round to posting here the site has started behaving itself for me. Could that be some sort of DOS/server overload countermeasure (the URL, http://www.cglpl.fr/, was on a news site)?

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Amanda B. Reckondwythe

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In Control Panel, under Clock, Location and Region, try changing Location to France.

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Hmm, I don't think that's it: my devices all seem to know where I am.

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This is strange. I just turned on my computer, and everything has a red tint to it. Some things are completely red (such as most of the Ship). Is this a monitor calibration problem? Will I need to replace my computer? Have the Russians taken over my computer? (I tried shutting down and restarting, but it's still red.)

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I shut down completely. I just turned it back on to print something out that I needed and was afraid I might be losing my monitor completely. It's back to normal. For now.
[Confused]

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Could be a loose or damaged monitor cable -- or, as you fear, the monitor could have one foot in the grave.

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I had a quick Google. It looks like it could easily be a hardware problem of a minor sort, perhaps even something in a cable. To speak crudely and ignorantly, you have some physical thingy that controls the color balance on your monitor, and one of the parts has gone wonky, causing the color balance to shift red. If it's in the process of failing, you may see it shift back and forth several times before it dies totally. I'd suggest Googling yourself, using your computer make/model and the terms "red" "monitor" "display". Then if it is a cable, swapping one cable out for a new one would do the trick.

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Thanks, all. My first strategy is to do everything I need to do today (documents for an upcoming trip, some posters I've made for a display at church, etc.) while my monitor is still alive. (It's fine today -- knock on wood.) My computer (a desk top) is an all-in-one, so there are no visible cables connecting the monitor to the computer. I'll have to take it into the shop if it needs repair. I'm thinking of doing that this weekend to have it checked out, since I'll be away all of next week and using my tablet.

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Do you have any means of backing up all your files, either on a pluggable-in external drive or on the Cloud? It might be worthwhile doing.
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quote:
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Do you have any means of backing up all your files, either on a pluggable-in external drive or on the Cloud? It might be worthwhile doing.

I've been storing stuff in the Cloud and will continue as much as I can before taking my computer to the shop. (I know -- I should have done this a long time ago!)

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Regarding Comodo antivirus the following may provide some worthwhile background reading, and link:

http://www.techradar.com/news/software/business-software/the-best-free-software-for-small-businesses-1323829

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Does anyone here understand VOIP and related virtual telephony? I'm dealing with issues at work, and I want to understand better so I know how to speak with the techs (who invariably don't speak layperson and I don't speak their language).

Is any phone service using internet wires VOIP, or are there other varieties?

Our issue is that when people call on cell phones, sometimes they can't dial a menu option or an extension. Sometimes they can. It depends on the day and the carrier. Sprint cell phones didn't work last week. They work this week, but AT&T cell phones don't.

The techs I've been speaking with (and believe me, there are many) seem to have never heard of such a thing before, but also seem to be hinting that it's just something inherent in the technology that can't be fixed. I'm nearly at my wits' end...and I work in a church, so I really shouldn't start yelling at people on the phone, even if they're with the phone company!

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quote:
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Does anyone here understand VOIP and related virtual telephony? I'm dealing with issues at work, and I want to understand better so I know how to speak with the techs (who invariably don't speak layperson and I don't speak their language).

Is any phone service using internet wires VOIP, or are there other varieties?

Our issue is that when people call on cell phones, sometimes they can't dial a menu option or an extension. Sometimes they can. It depends on the day and the carrier. Sprint cell phones didn't work last week. They work this week, but AT&T cell phones don't.

The techs I've been speaking with (and believe me, there are many) seem to have never heard of such a thing before, but also seem to be hinting that it's just something inherent in the technology that can't be fixed. I'm nearly at my wits' end...and I work in a church, so I really shouldn't start yelling at people on the phone, even if they're with the phone company!

If you are paying/phone for help to you internet provider, you are using VOIP. Voice Over Internet Protocol.
I just understand telephony, but I well understand techs. Many do not fully understand the technology they are helping with and most are not allowed to admit the failings of their technology unless they are forced to. Inconsistent issues are the worst to diagnose with anything.

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Skype is VOIP. So is Viber, TextNow and there are several others out there. There is also something called SIP which for present day is basically the same thing (session initiation protocol), though actually refers to a connection method. It was possible in the past to use open-source SIP and call anywhere for free (I used Twinkle and Asterisk).

You can get a thing that looks like a regular landline telephone but is actually a softphone, and it connects just like a regular phone to any cell or landline.

Beware that some VOIP providers charge quite a bit more to call a mobile versus landline.

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Sorry, accidentally posted that before done.

In my experience the menu accessing issues with cellphones and sometimes not being able to call are related to how the VOIP provider has structured their service. When a call is made from/to a cellphone, it has to go through the internet to/from some switching equipment, and perhaps handed off through networks not part of the providers system, to eventually get to a cell tower. The software may be written in such ways to discourage the use of some networks and switches because the provider pays more to use. Sometimes this cost is passed to the user, and sometimes not. If the provider can't solve the problems, consider to get another provider and pay a little more to have better routing through the various networks, switches and cellphone systems.

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Our provider is AT&T. They provide our internet, and also our land lines, AND VOIP which we use for phones. At least I assume it's VOIP - hence my question; it runs over our internet cable. (The land lines are for alarm systems and elevators.)

I'm curious why this isn't a huge problem everywhere. VOIP is pretty popular, I think, with at least small businesses. You'd think it would be a widely known issue that no one's phone menus work reliably. Or maybe the big companies still use land lines; I'm told AT&T is trying to get out of the land line business, actually.

Unfortunately, there is no switching providers; we're in a contract. And all the decision-making is done by people other than me; I'm just the one who has to try to resolve the issues. [Help]

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Can someone help me with my cell phone problem? For some reason the provider (Sprint or somebody) has put a new app on the phone that shows weather, and the amount of juice left in the battery in large green numbers. (only when the phone is locked)

How do I get rid of this? I can't find an app with a name that suggests what it is, and when I turn off "additional information" from my lock screen, it doesn't change it.

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Sorry but I have a rather long list of questions relating to my new Microsoft email account.

Some months ago when I purchased my new PC running Windows 10, I opened a new Microsoft email account (***.live.com). It has been working perfectly on my desktop PC but my problem is with the same account which I have also set up to access on my phone and tablet. On the desktop PC, all the emails seem to stay there until I choose to delete them. But on the phone or tablet, they stay there for a few days and then disappear completely. What am I doing wrong?

I also need to know; How do I save them permanently? Is that the same as archiving them? If so, where do they go when archived? Do they get saved on the PC or on the server?

And how long do emails routinely get kept on the server? And how do I delete emails permanently from the server?

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Sorry, I don't know anything about phone apps or email. My problem is Facebook. I have an old computer and Facebook is not happy. It takes ages to load anything and some pages won't load at all. It has taken all the fun of things away. Most other websites are loading fairly quickly. My yahoo mail is quite slow. I can't play any videos. I'm sure it is some setting or something particular to Facebook but I can't figure it out and have no funds to try to get it repaired or buy a new computer. I don't have a cell phone so this is it for me. Any advice greatly appreciated!

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lilypad: how old is the computer, what is the operating system, what is the web browser you're using to get into Facebook?
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2008 Acer laptop with Vista and was using Firefox where all this started and have since uninstalled that and am using Chrome. Neither of these are supported anymore. I did try logging out of some other locations where I had logged in as someone out there on the internet suggested but it hasn't helped. It was working just fine until the last two months. I also tried uninstalling a bunch of programs that I don't use anymore thinking it would free up processing power but I guess that wasn't the issue. I think it must be a Facebook setting with this computer but I've tried clearing a cache I found but it didn't help. I tried logging in at the library on Friday and it works perfectly there so it isn't some way that I have it set up.

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The issues are probably Vista and the processor ability. There's planned obsolescence with computers, hardware that is older sometimes cannot keep up. Getting a more recent operating system might help, but I'm betting the hardware won't support a version of Windows which would fix the problem. (They call it 'upgrading' though it is often not really upwards.)

I have 2 older computers I continue to use. This one is a Dell n-Series from 2005, and I have a Toshiba the same vintage as your's. I put Linux on them both (Linux Mint). Which requires some work and little know how. The usual alternative I suggest to people without much of a budget and not able to install an operating system is an off-lease HP laptop which are usually less than $200 and can still be had with Windows 7. That's what I buy for the office. Tigerdirect is one source.

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