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Golden Key
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mt--

I'm not a techie, but my computer often needs some help. Don't know if this will work in Win 10. I use Vista, and it works for me. Would be a good idea for you to check and verify online.

--When the computer is`press F8 and hold it down while you boot up. Let go of the F8 key. You should soon get a plain screen that gives you various Safe Mode options, Start Normally, and maybe a few others.

--Another thing that may help: Press Fn, and hold it down while you boot up. On my Dell laptop, I get the Dell screen. In the upper right corner, it says "Diagnostic startup selected". Let go of the Fn key.

The computer will start a thorough checkup. You should probably sit with it for the first 20 min. or so because it may ask you some questions. (On mine, it shows a screen of striped colors, and asks if they display ok.

When the checkup is done, you should get a screen asking if you want to go on to the next part, which takes about 30 min.

At the end of THAT, there's an option to go on to a symptom-specific section. When you exit that, I think it reboots automatically.

--If you can get to a command prompt,
"chkdsk /f" will tell the system to check and fi things at the next boot-up.

--Also at a command prompt: "sfc /scannow". It checks for file problems.

--I haven't used this...but some computers have a "Recovery" partition, and I've read that you can make a book disk from that.

--Some useful software, with various editions available free: Wise Care 365 and System Mechanic. CC Cleaner is also good, BUT one version was recently hacked. There've been versions since then, so you should double-check the version you're getting.

CNET's download section is a good source for free software, IME. It looks like there are some operating systems in the "Utilities" section.

Sorry if that's too much info. Good luck!

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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Don't download from CNET. They bundle adwarw in. Alwaya go to the app developer's own page.

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Amanda B. Reckondwythe

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quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
When the computer is [booting] press F8 and hold it down while you boot up. Let go of the F8 key. You should soon get a plain screen that gives you various Safe Mode options. . . . Another thing that may help: Press Fn, and hold it down while you boot up. On my Dell laptop, I get the Dell screen. In the upper right corner, it says "Diagnostic startup selected". Let go of the Fn key. The computer will start a thorough checkup.

My experience has been that pressing the F8 key repeatedly in rapid succession during bootup will get you into the Safe Mode option screen. Also, I think the diagnostic routine summoned via the Fn key is for physical problems, not for software or operating system problems.

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jedijudy

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quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:
Try losing the final apostrophe in KLB's link.

Apostrophe lost. Code fixed. Muscles flexed.
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mousethief

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quote:
Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
When the computer is [booting] press F8 and hold it down while you boot up. Let go of the F8 key. You should soon get a plain screen that gives you various Safe Mode options. . . . Another thing that may help: Press Fn, and hold it down while you boot up. On my Dell laptop, I get the Dell screen. In the upper right corner, it says "Diagnostic startup selected". Let go of the Fn key. The computer will start a thorough checkup.

My experience has been that pressing the F8 key repeatedly in rapid succession during bootup will get you into the Safe Mode option screen. Also, I think the diagnostic routine summoned via the Fn key is for physical problems, not for software or operating system problems.
We have tried both several times, but alas to no effect.

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lilBuddha
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quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
We have tried both several times, but alas to no effect.

You might need to access the bios to change the boot order to look for the usb port first.
Try this
1. Hold and press [Shift] then turn off the system.
Press and hold the F2 button then click the power button. DO NOT RELEASE the F2 button until the BIOS screen display.
Then this, though your exact BIOS might differ.
One potential solution is to pull the drive and follow the instructions in the link.

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mousethief

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quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
You might need to access the bios to change the boot order to look for the usb port first.

One of the very first things we did.

quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
One potential solution is to pull the drive and follow the instructions in the link.

Yeah, I think pulling the drive is about all we have left. It clearly is going to need a fresh install, or a trip to the cyberknacker's.

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Wesley J

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Any thoughts on and firsthand experience with the new Firefox 57, aka 'Firefox Quantum', anyone?

I'm not migrating yet, but am experimenting with alternative browsers, of which Vivaldi seems very customisable indeed, and that's the way, aha aha, I like it, aha aha. [Cool]

Thanks for your insightful observations!

[ 16. November 2017, 21:47: Message edited by: Wesley J ]

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You may not have a choice. Mine updated itself this morning without asking permission!

Some annoyances I have found so far . . . some frequently used buttons like Home and Refresh have moved across to the left hand side of the screen, though I will probably get used to that.

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Ann

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If you right click on the offending icon and select Customise, you can move the icons around to your heart's content.

But - my favourite add-in - Roomy Bookmarks - isn't compatible and, apparently, won't ever be - now the bookmark bar takes up about eight times the space ( or would if I had a monitor eight times as wide!).

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Golden Key
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I have Firefox set up to let me know updates are available, but not install them automatically. (Tools - Options - Advanced - Updates.) That's my setting for most software, due to past problems--mostly with Microsoft.

FYI: I'm using Firefox ESR 52.5.0 (32-bit). Had to go down the ESR side-branch of editions, due to some computer quirk or other.

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Ian Climacus

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I'm on ESR too due to some work site requirements.

From what I read it is quicker, but the People were in Uproar over their add-ins not working.

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@WesleyJ -- Firefox 57 seems better overall, as long as you can cope with the possible loss of some precious (or not so precious) extensions. There are alternatives or updates to all the ones that I actually value.

One issue I had to resolve was the non-display of text content in some tabs. This turned out to be to do with the sandboxing, and the level of 'security' being applied, and it has only effected my main desktop (Linux) system. Toning it down a level in about:config security.sandbox.content.level solved the issue. Apart from that I am quite impressed so far.

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