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Roseofsharon
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We've just been away for a week, and the day before we left I sowed various seeds and left them to germinate on the kitchen windowsill, making a note of the date, and the date by which they should germinate - according to the seed packet.
Most of them were quick germinators and were due to show themselves at about the time we returned - except for the Romanesco cauliflower, which was supposed to take from 14-28 days. That was just fine, as the bit of garden they are due to occupy is nowhere near ready.
So, how come that on our return in just 7 days had the Romanesco germinated, and already grown into spindly seedings [Frown] . I have had to re-sow, and will be keeping a very close eye on them so they can be moved somewhere cooler the minute they show themselves.

What is the point of the sowing guide on the packet if it can be out by so much?!

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It is now May, and still eff-all rain. I have one water butt, ot four, with water in still. And nothing in the forecast either.

WTF?

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We'll send you some. We're having major flooding with evacuations.

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Sandemaniac
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I'll pass on your evacuations if you don't mind, but am quite happy to be sent water - do you think you can PM it? [Two face]

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Incoming (watch for the splash)

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It must have worked - we had some rain yesterday evening! Not much, enough to lay the dust, but oh it smelt so good!

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I think we're not that far east of you Sandimaniac and we've had steady showers of rain over the last few days after an almost entirely dry April, so I hope you egt more rain soon.
We only have a small back yard but I've been trying to fill it with pots and planters. My latest editions are a rose bush and a dwarf plum tree both in rather nice pots courtesy of the garden voucher I recieved when I retired a few months ago. I'll probably get the space looking great just at the time we decide to sell it - that's what happened at our last two houses.

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Some sharp frosts last week have been shredding potatoes and vines on our allotment site. Spuds in particular look wasted - and people have been planting them earlier and earlier, I noticed them going in in February this year.

But the frosts have also hit vineyards in England and France - -6 last week I think.

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We had our first major hail of the spring last night. I was actually flying home from California when it hit, and was warned by my wife that the front yard garden got hit pretty badly. When we got home, it looked to me like everything was fine. So that was a relief.

Other people weren't so lucky. It was warm all weekend, so people pressed their luck on getting a head start on more tender vegetables, and from the looks of it, a lot of it got shredded.

Although if your garden got the brunt of it, that was lucky. I saw pictures of people with holes in their siding, and one friend had her car destroyed by the hail- windows shattered, roof and hood dented to hell, decorative decals and rear-view windows hanging on by a few wires.

And it's expected to hit again this afternoon. [Frown]

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Despite the lack of rain, it's not all bad news - realised last night that the Salvia, which has been a dead brown twig all winter, is shooting from the roots. It's alive!

And the Met Office, having been forecasting rain as less and less likely all day, are now forecasting thunderstorms this evening. I'd rather they didn't arrive while I'm at ringing practice - standing in a tower holding a rope seems like a good way to end up toast - but beyond that bring it on!

Oh, and the sore hip turns out to be posture rather than arthritis. Phew! If only all life's woes were as easily solved...

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We've had rain!
Not enough, but there may be more overnight [Smile]

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Sandemaniac
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Hardly enough to lay the dust here. I'm getting worryingly obsessive about the stuff.

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He's not kidding about obsessive - I had a text when I got home asking me how damp the soil had got. [Roll Eyes]

On the other hand, I was the one who'd let him know we had at least 3 downpours over the afternoon [Razz] (my w*rk is only a mile away, so usually gets the same weather). With any luck things might now start to grow...

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I left a bucket out - it had a good half inch in it (this is why CK prefers snow - she says it feels so much better waking up to discover you've had six inches in the night) - and stuff has quite literally doubled in size in 24 hours since.

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It's become our Mother's Day tradition for my son to take me shopping for flowers and then come home and be my gardener for the day.

This year we spent twice as much as usual; I have a tendency to be a bit stingy. Now the front porch looks great with several pots of flowers and a Boston fern, plus there are impatiens and petunias all across the front shrubbery beds. We even added a new rhododendron shrub.

No one would ever guess that inside the house is a rather severe, minimalist décor. I love it!

I'm enjoying it now, because tonight may well be the night of the lepus.

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Transplanting the existing conversation from the "Allotment" thread to this new soil:

Posted by Mr. Cheesy:

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Having decided to fully immerse myself in the local culture here in the Welsh valleys, I signed the waiting list at the local allotment - imagining it would be filed in the bin like my last attempt to get one. After only 6 months of waiting, I heard back from the allotment committee and was rewarded with a half plot. Oh the joy. A little bit of darkened soil, a shed, a greenhouse and a whole load of junk.

OK, I know you don't really care. So cutting to good stuff: I've planted some potatoes and onions (I wasn't going to bother, but they were donated by a neighbour so it was rude not to) and have been germinating beans and pumpkins in the greenhouse. It has been really warm so they've shot up and I've been transplanting them out.

In all this, I've been expecting the slugs to pop up and munch through all my seedlings, but as yet no sign of the little blighters. I'm thinking it might be due to a very large number of birds at the allotment, who for some reason think it is funny to uproot my onion sets.

I have also a little patch of fruit bushes and have been trying to restablish some strawberries with some runaway plants I've recaptured from the path. So far these haven't taken and are looking a bit sad for themselves in the fruit patch.

I'm trying to germinate tomatoes and peppers too, but so far no sign of any. Not sure why.

Anyhoo, how is your veg patch?

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Tomatoes and peppers need warmth to do well.
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Tomatoes looking well, 4 different kinds, something ate the squash, and part of the parsley, peas are just starting to blossom, 6 leeks and one onion and I have one artichoke up for its second year. I do square foot gardening, meaning I divide plot into square foot spaces. Much easier to tend to in my older age. I just planted a foot of sunflower seeds. I had good luck with a pot of potatoes last year. Finally I let a head of lettuce to to seed last year so now I have lettuce all over here and there.
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Our patch is booming away, but we tend to buy young plants from nurseries rather than sow seeds. It's kind of instant gardening. So far, all looking well, except of course, it's been very dry. I got some new Jerusalem artichokes, and they are growing by the day, Jack and the beanstalk.
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My patch consists of 4 large square boxes, plus a few pots. This year I have two boxes with peas in - something new for me - one box with tomatoes and rocket, and one with carrots and spring onions.

Two pots have strawberries in; the strawberry plants in the other two pots died, and when I tipped them out I found the pots were full of woodlice. Half a dozen courgette plants came up unexpectedly in my boxes, so I have stuck them in the vacant pots and will see how they do.

Every year when I'm planting I think it would be nice to have more space - my ambition is to have a glut of something - but realistically, this is probably about the right amount of stuff.

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This upcoming weekend is "May Long" which means May long weekend of which Monday is Victoria Day and a holiday. This is the traditional start of summer, well sort of. The leaves have just come out on the trees last week. Everything was bare 5 days ago, now we see green!

We dug last evening, spread compost, and laid out the rows. I turned the outside water on (we have to drain and blow-out the outdoor waterlines for winter). The ground is still quite cool, and our overnight temps at +3°C last night. Our beds are raised to help with warming. We are going to have beans (green and wax), carrots, beets, kale, swiss chard, and potatoes. The tomatoes here have to be started inside and transplanted. These will come later because it is just too cool yet.

We have both a garden in back of the house, and what you call an allotment, which is called a "community garden plot". Community gardens give a plot and then also as a collective typically grow potatoes in a shared area. The community garden gets going 03 June. We typically have about 100 days to grow things before frost.

There's something really life-giving about planning, preparing, planting, tending and harvesting. On an AS thread, I discussed an funeral last week. Last evening felt healing in the back garden from that.

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We have just put tomatoes out, as we had frosts until last week. Grow them on the window-sill, where they become giants, then transplant. Trying black, green striped, as well as normal red.
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I have a solitary silver beet in my raised garden.

Well, it is autumn here and we have had our first frost.

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No allotment, but most of our back garden is given over to veg.

Being so close to the South Coast has its disadvantages (mostly wind and sand), but the temperature is just that degree or so higher than further inland, and we have had very little frost - so my outdoor tomatoes (bought in at two-leaf stage) are doing very well, two trusses of flower buds already, when I would previously have not put anything out until the very end of May.

I find I have to net things until they are established, otherwise the starlings or gulls pull them out. The leeks I planted at the weekend are currently under nets. Some things have to stay netted, I took the netting off the swiss chard (aka silver beet) for a couple of days last year, and the sparrows shredded them, so now I keep it permanently under net.

I need to clear last year's chard as it is beginning to bolt, and because I have little plants desperate to be in the ground, but they still have massive, succulent leaves, so we have been eating more chard recently than is good for our digestive systems
We had a very sunny day today, and I was delighted to see a bee busy working among my broad beans

Very heavy rain is forecast for tomorrow evening, so everything that is outside 'hardening off' prior to planting might be flattened by Thursday morning if I can't protect them somehow.



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I spoke to soon, the slugs have woken up and are attacking my baby pumpkins, the little bastards.

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How dare you call your pumpkins "bastards"!
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Checked out the herb garden and despite neglect we have a healthy bay tree, plenty of rosemary, thyme, sage and mint, some sad looking marjoram and not enough parsley (we cook quite a lot of Greek dishes which demand handfuls of the stuff). No sign of the basil so we will have to try harder.

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The heavens opened all right, so we dashed over on slug patrol, but only found one, executed by the tricoteuse (wife).

But pigeons are obviously feasting on assorted brassica, and also our sodding English mace, our treasure. Netting alert!

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I read this and thought of you talented people...

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I managed some gardening today. Heavy weeding, harvesting charlotte potatoes (heavily delayed) and using the compost for the allium bed. Covering the brassicas with a netting tent - also sprinkling slug stuff as I can't work out whether it's pigeons, molluscs or both that have nibbled. Heavily. Then I was so hot I had to have a bath.
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We had a few days of lovely rain, but are now back to hot and windy weather, which dries out the containers very quickly, and forms a hard crust on the surface of the ver plot.
It makes me very grumpy, as there is next to no shade in my garden after about 9am, and I can't bear the heat. [Mad]

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Originally posted by Roseofsharon:
We had a few days of lovely rain, but are now back to hot and windy weather, which dries out the containers very quickly, and forms a hard crust on the surface of the ver plot.

Have you tried mulching?

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Not yet.
Still filling raised beds & containers with a mixture of sandy soil, used multipurpose compost from last year's containers, a very little home-made compost & now bought in 'new' multipurpose.

Once everything is topped up with some sort of growing medium I will think of buying in mulch.
We had more home-made compost than I could use in our last, huge, garden. Plenty of grass clippings, shredded tree & shrub prunings and masses of weeds. There is very little here to make compost with - especially 'brown' material. Two small lawns, 1 forsythia, and not really a substantial amount of useable weeds, mainly bindweed and Spanish bluebell.
I am not keen on buying stable manure, the last lot I got gave me 20years worth of perennial weeds.

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Last year I removed an evergreen bush which had become straggly, and replaced it with three small hebes. All three hebes flowered beautifully last year. Two of the hebes looked as they they were withering over winter, and neither rallied come spring. The third hebe is well and flowering. There are two flourishing, well established azaleas in the same bed.

How have I managed to kill hebes?? I'd like to replace them with more hebes, but don't want to kill off another two.

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My broad beans plants have some tiny broad beans on them, and my climbing beans have started climbing - only half a turn so far, but promising. Courgettes, butternut-type squash and outdoor cucumber all planted out today.
[Smile]

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I have actually managed some garden time today - totally the wrong sort of day, but needs must. I have put some more runner beans in to replace the slugged ones. I have erected a sort of leaning device with plastic netting stapled to two laths to make a slope up which the ridge cucumbers may climb, and put them in. And I have planted out the courgettes.
I have cut a huge amount of lysimachia which has enjoyed the local soil so much it was overwhelming all around it, and pruned a philadelphus I am gradually getting rid of. Its scent isn't quite right, pervasive and cloying, not the uplifting usual one, and as the one I grew from a cutting from my parents is now up and doing its stuff, I don't need it any more. It is very pretty, with more flowers than the usual variety, but I can't stand the scent. Also cut flowering heads off the various umbelliferae I have about the place.
Next I need to attack the Virginia creeper, which is working its way back from the heavy prune I gave it earlier, right down to the soil.

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Is it just us? All our fruit seems to be coming at the wrong time. The whitecurrants are usually the first currants, in early July, but this year, they are behind the redcurrants, which we are already eating. The blackcurrants are nearly ripe, way too early. The gooseberries are beginning to fall off and will have to be picked at the weekend.

Oh, and we are eating the autumn raspberries, as well as the summer ones.

Very odd.

M.

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Is it just us? All our fruit seems to be coming at the wrong time

The hot weather is discomforting the plants as well as us. They are probably producing fruit as quickly as they can, before they die from thirst and heat exhaustion. Who can blame them?

I am only venturing into the garden between the hours of 9pm and 6am at the moment - and that only for necessary watering.
Everything is now covered in blackfly, and are more than I can deal with by squishing or blasting with the garden hose. I have lost heart a bit, but still hope that I will be able to salvage something once the weather cools down.

At least the broken nights and pre-dawn garden watch has revealed what is responsible for the holes in the beds & borders, and the scratched up areas of the lawn - foxes!
I'm enjoying seeing them at the moment, but the novelty may soon wear off if they start to actually disturb the plants.

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Away for a week... A non-gardening friend is watering while we are away, so I just hope everything survives the experience (him included).

AG

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A report from a non-gardener: a lot of bush trimming, plus the result of lawnmowing has filled our "green bin" which will be collected today so that provided it is not too hot, cold nor wet, we will be able to do some more.

Some parts of the Thing Outside© still need professional help though.

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Goodby veggie garden. Between gopher ( I put wire down but now 3 years later they are back) heat it has been over 100 F all this week,the cost of water, and shade cloth I surrender. I have pulled up everything that was left and am mulching over it all. [Waterworks] Next year it is pots only. I can buy from the local farmers market for about the same as water bill and cost of plants that have been eaten.

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