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Originally posted by orfeo:
But in Australia they're all floppies. That was kind of the point. We kept calling all the disks "floppies", even the smaller ones that aren't literally floppy.

Floppy disks contrast with hard disks. Then there's microsoft.

Re alcohol, in Saskatchewan, like Ontario, it's mostly a monopoly. LBS, liquor board store, twisted to "little book store", and thus people used to go to buy a book. Which reminds me further of the "washroom", where somehow people would say they're "seeing a man about a dog" if they wished to excuse themselves to use it.

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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
Whereas I would call a shop that sold alcohol an off-licence or, if it was more upmarket, a wine merchant. "Going to the offy" usually means going to buy alcohol for the evening.

It's an offy if it sells only (or predominantly) alcohol. Random corner shops will often have an off-licence (a licence to sell alcohol for consumption off the premises), but wouldn't be described as and off-licence unless most of their shelf space was alcohol.
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Originally posted by orfeo:

Apparently, the term "floppy" was reserved for the really old 5.25 inch computer disks.

What about an 8" floppy?
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Originally posted by orfeo:
Well, thank you all for missing the point so spectacularly. We could have avoided all this if only more South Africans had pulled the things apart.

Don't snip at us if Australians are to stupid to know why a floppy disk is called a floppy disk.

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Originally posted by orfeo:
But in Australia they're all floppies. That was kind of the point. We kept calling all the disks "floppies", even the smaller ones that aren't literally floppy.

Actually, the smaller ones were called floppy because the disks themselves still were, regardless of the external case. Evidently SA began the devolution of computer terminology earlier than everywhere else.

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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
Which reminds me further of the "washroom", where somehow people would say they're "seeing a man about a dog" if they wished to excuse themselves to use it.

I've used the expression "pay my flood insurance."

Ladies say they have to "powder their nose," as the ladies' room is often called the powder room.

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Originally posted by mark_in_manchester:
Then shops were introduced to sell booze which were not licensed - called an Off-License.

Not sure this is right. I thought the 'off' in 'off-license' referred to the fact that these shops were indeed licensed to sell alcohol, but only for consumption OFF the premises (unlike a pub bar or restaurant that was licensed to sell alcohol for consumption ON the premises)


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Originally posted by Gracious rebel:
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Originally posted by mark_in_manchester:
Then shops were introduced to sell booze which were not licensed - called an Off-License.

Not sure this is right. I thought the 'off' in 'off-license' referred to the fact that these shops were indeed licensed to sell alcohol, but only for consumption OFF the premises (unlike a pub bar or restaurant that was licensed to sell alcohol for consumption ON the premises)

That's correct. In Nottingham we called them Beer-offs. The children were sent down the street to get a gill or half pint in a jug and we had to carry it home very carefully.

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We had an Australian temp in a UK office reduce the office to horrified silence asking for someone to pass the Durex. She meant sellotape or clear adhesive tape; Durex to us meant condoms.

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Durex for sticky tape - now that takes me back, it must be 40 years or more since I last heard it. How old was the temp (I'd assume not very) and was she from a country town?

[ 23. May 2017, 22:10: Message edited by: Gee D ]

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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
She meant sellotape or clear adhesive tape; Durex to us meant condoms.

In the US we tend to use the brand name, Scotch Tape. Condoms are rubbers.

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no prophet's flag is set so...

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It's scotch tape here, from the brandname, which is used for paper. Adhesive tape is the term for first-aid or medical tape, clear or otherwise. Masking tape is the non-clear paper tape.

An "off-sale" is where you get beer or wine, never hard liquor. There are bars with off-sale licences and some without. A lounge is a nicer bar, where people tend to be better dressed and the drinks cost 50-100% more. Lounges are usually attached to restaurants.

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quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Durex for sticky tape - now that takes me back, it must be 40 years or more since I last heard it. How old was the temp (I'd assume not very) and was she from a country town?

I can remember its use too but for a different reason. My maiden name was similar to Durex, so you can imagine what it was changed to by school friends. However it was the tape which was meant. No idea from any of us then as to what the other word meant.

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Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
Which reminds me further of the "washroom", where somehow people would say they're "seeing a man about a dog" if they wished to excuse themselves to use it.

I've used the expression "pay my flood insurance."

Ladies say they have to "powder their nose," as the ladies' room is often called the powder room.

Ladies powder their noses here also, but we see a man about a horse rather than about a dog. Although the elocution is rather old-fashioned.

My favorite euphemism for this act is "wring a kidney."

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Originally posted by mousethief:
"wring a kidney."

Ouch

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Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
In the US we tend to use the brand name, Scotch Tape. Condoms are rubbers.

Part of the Americanization of the world is that the things that we used to rub out errors in pencil are now called erasers in NZ & OZ. [Roll Eyes]

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no prophet's flag is set so...

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quote:
Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
Which reminds me further of the "washroom", where somehow people would say they're "seeing a man about a dog" if they wished to excuse themselves to use it.

I've used the expression "pay my flood insurance."

Ladies say they have to "powder their nose," as the ladies' room is often called the powder room.

Ladies powder their noses here also, but we see a man about a horse rather than about a dog. Although the elocution is rather old-fashioned.

My favorite euphemism for this act is "wring a kidney."

"Hang a rat" is used in less polite company.

When the water disposal is on a septic tank which you must pay to have pumped out, you call the "honey man" who comes with the "honey truck" to take it all away. The cost per litre (or gallon) being what it is, everyone knows "if it's yellow, let it mellow; if it's brown, flush it down".

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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
quote:
Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
In the US we tend to use the brand name, Scotch Tape. Condoms are rubbers.

Part of the Americanization of the world is that the things that we used to rub out errors in pencil are now called erasers in NZ & OZ. [Roll Eyes]
For a time "rubbers" meant rubber overshoes.

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Originally posted by mousethief:
For a time "rubbers" meant rubber overshoes.

Yes. My mother made me wear my rubbers to school on rainy days.

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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
quote:
Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
In the US we tend to use the brand name, Scotch Tape. Condoms are rubbers.

Part of the Americanization of the world is that the things that we used to rub out errors in pencil are now called erasers in NZ & OZ. [Roll Eyes]
Why the rolled eyes? I find it odd. And, unless Australia is an exception, it is likely you adopt things from all over. Everyone else does.

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I think that Zappa was very discreetly drawing attention to the previous Oz naming of erasers as rubbers. In fact, to follow that through, rubbers as erasers were used to correct mistakes; as condoms they are used to prevent them.

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We still use rubbers to rub out mistakes. That was where the conversation went after the request for Durex. It must have been 25 years ago, and I don't know where the temp came from in Australia.

Euphemisms for using the toilet: point Percy at the porcelain, commune with the great white telephone (usually to describe vomiting).

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'Ride the porcelain pony' is another euphemism for vomiting. I used to hear it a lot where I was growing up, but I don't know how widespread it is.
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Originally posted by Salicional:
'Ride the porcelain pony' is another euphemism for vomiting. I used to hear it a lot where I was growing up, but I don't know how widespread it is.

I'm used to hearing 'worship the porcelain god'.

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Kneel before the porcelain throne...

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Where I grew up, near Manchester UK, it was shouting hello down the big white telephone.

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I think "Talking to Hughie" is another vivid Australianism.

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Interesting re "Hughie" which may reflect the sound made whilst vomitting. "Ralph" and "ralphing" (pronounced as spelled, not as "rafe") were used here for a time.
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Here the vomiter is "driving the porcelain bus."

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I've heard (to) chunder and technicolour yawn in my days...

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Another thing...

Where is the floor on the level you walk into called a ground floor and where is it a first floor? Ground floor here. Though a lift [elevator, anyone?] at the building where my doctor's is has a 1 for it rather than a G which threw me.

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In St. Louis the buildings are roughly evenly divided between those which call the floor-level-with-the-outside G (and then number the higher floors 1, 2, 3...) and those that call the FLWTO 1 and number the higher floors starting with 2.

I'm told it is an ethnic thing--we were settled mainly by Germans, French and Italians, and some of those folks had different customs from the rest.

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quote:
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In St. Louis the buildings are roughly evenly divided between those which call the floor-level-with-the-outside G

Floor-level-with-the-outside isn't always a well-defined thing: in a large building on a slope, there may be two or three floors-level-with-the-outside.

Conventionally, one refers to the floor-level-with-the-outside at the main entrance as the ground floor (or first floor, according to preference), but in something like a department store, "main" entrance can also be a rather arbitrary designation.

I could, of course, point you to a delightful building of my acquaintance where the floor-level-with-the-ground was numbered 3, the main entrance was up some stairs on 4, and there was a secondary entrance down some steps to 2. I don't think I ever had occasion to visit the floor numbered "1", but I believe that was the lowest floor that it had.

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Thanks LC amd Leorning Cniht!

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Interesting re "Hughie" which may reflect the sound made whilst vomitting.

I haven't heard that here.

The explanations I heard for Hughie are all to do with rain - "Send it down, Hughie!", and are a corruption of Jehovah/Yahweh; from the Greek "it's raining", huei [we're all Greek scholars I suppose!]; and even a harking back to St Hugh of Wessex [though Hughie seems a bit informal] who had great success with rain.

I like your explanation better, I add. Hughie the God of vomiting.

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Not sure how widespread this one is, but (in California) I've heard, of all things, 'going to tip the bishop' as a euphemism for a quick trip to the men's room. Also heard, 'drain the bishop.'

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You can also call upon Hughie to send a good surf. Those calling upon him are very familiar with Ancient Greek, as you would understand.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
In St. Louis the buildings are roughly evenly divided between those which call the floor-level-with-the-outside G

Floor-level-with-the-outside isn't always a well-defined thing: in a large building on a slope, there may be two or three floors-level-with-the-outside.

Conventionally, one refers to the floor-level-with-the-outside at the main entrance as the ground floor (or first floor, according to preference), but in something like a department store, "main" entrance can also be a rather arbitrary designation.

I could, of course, point you to a delightful building of my acquaintance where the floor-level-with-the-ground was numbered 3, the main entrance was up some stairs on 4, and there was a secondary entrance down some steps to 2. I don't think I ever had occasion to visit the floor numbered "1", but I believe that was the lowest floor that it had.

In the oldest part of Seattle, some of the buildings start with floor 2 at street level, because at some point in the 19th century the streets were raised a full storey, and the former first floors abandoned, or used as a basement (below-grade) floor.

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The entry level floor is commonly the main floor, marked M in elevators. 1 is above it. If there is one floor below it is B for basement. If 2 floors below M, the lowest is B and the one between main and basement is ground.

The numbering of things brings me to grades and schooling. It is grade one, 2, 3 etc. Never 1st grade 2nd etc which is American usage I think. High school starts at grade 9 and goes to 12. Elementary or public school is grades 1 to 8. We have "grad", not "prom".

For university, it is 1st year, 2nd year etc. Not junior and sophomore etc. Which I cannot keep straight. Fraternities and sororities are illegal at universities in my province. So are athletic scholarships that pay more than tuition costs.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
I think "Talking to Hughie" is another vivid Australianism.

Really? Hughie yes but i have never heard your phrase.

The phrase is "send her down Hughie," for use in a drought when rain is needed.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ian Climacus:
Another thing...

Where is the floor on the level you walk into called a ground floor and where is it a first floor? Ground floor here. Though a lift [elevator, anyone?] at the building where my doctor's is has a 1 for it rather than a G which threw me.

Ian, local Westfield shopping centre does this. I searched and searched for the shop I needed before discovering floors were not labelled as expected down here.

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Lothlorien
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian Climacus:
Another thing...

Where is the floor on the level you walk into called a ground floor and where is it a first floor? Ground floor here. Though a lift [elevator, anyone?] at the building where my doctor's is has a 1 for it rather than a G which threw me.

I searched for a shop when local Westfield was remodelled some years ago. Then I realised that ground floor was called 1.

[ 25. May 2017, 06:10: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]

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Baptist Trainfan
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Ah, but that's not Floor 1, it's Level 1, which is obviously something entirely different.

Or not ...

Anyway, when I was at University many moons ago, the Students' Union building was on a steeply sloping site. The main entrance was on the ground floor - but that was at the top! (This is about the best picture I can find).

[ 25. May 2017, 07:30: Message edited by: Baptist Trainfan ]

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In Ikea it's floor 0.

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I remember parking on the ground floor carpark which was labeled as -1. I think that might have been an Ikea.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
The phrase is "send her down Hughie," for use in a drought when rain is needed.

No, not then, but when a storm is about to hit, and probably to hit hard. The invocation of Hughie is met with an almost immediate result.

Not necessarily so with an invocation for a good surf.

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Lothlorien
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I have looked at about ten sites. Most use the phrase of both a storm and also when rain is needed in a drought. Surf is also mentioned.

Here's one, there are others from MAcquarie dictionary and also other authorities.

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I too have found it perplexing that in the USA a group of first-year college students is referred to as "freshmen", even if they all happen to be female.
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quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
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And the meals of the day are, in order: Breakfast, elevenses, lunch, tea, dinner and supper at respectively 9 am, 11 am, 1 pm, 4 pm, 8 pm and 10 pm.

So when is the time for second breakfasts?
[Biased]

Breakfast is at 7 am, and second breakfast at 9 am.

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I persist in believing that on this (eastern) side of the Pond you live, or a shop is to be found, in, rather than on , the High Street.
But I think the number of people who agree with me grows smaller by the day.

[ 25. May 2017, 17:26: Message edited by: Albertus ]

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