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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Where do I start?

Cities are not "vibrant" (what does that even mean?), fun, exiting, stimulating or interesting. They are crowdwd, noisy, filthy, crime-ridden, expensive, polluted middens. Especially that London. Everything I need can be found in the countryside and smaller towns.

Urban and suburban environments should be designed to make motor vehicle use as inconvenient as possible, barring exceptions for disability and frailty, to encourage cycling and walking. This will make cities less noisy, polluted and hostile. A "city car" should be an oxymoron.

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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Churchill was not a national hero nor the greatest ever Briton. He was an utter bastard, totally at ease with mass murder and violent repression of dissent.

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Most of these have been phrased as negative dissenting opinions, so let's try some examples of turning it round.

I really like sprouts.

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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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I like steaks at least medium.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sipech:
I really like sprouts.

I knew I should have proposed marriage. Is your passport in order? [Axe murder]

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quote:
Originally posted by Kittyville:
The classics of English literature leave me cold. Austen, Hardy, Dickens, whatever, all equally meh.

I disagree about Dickens and Hardy. Austen though is worse than meh. In my opinion she is Britain's, if not the world's, most overrated author.

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balaam

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quote:
Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
I like steaks at least medium.

You are aware that restaurants reserve the best for medium-rare, rare and blue. You are paying top dollar for inferior meat.

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I do not like television and have never owned a set.
I have no use for professional sports -- except the Chicago Cubs, which are an exception to ALL rules.
I find Dickens a total bore -- it is obvious he was paid by the word.
I do not like bourbon (in fact, I'm allergic) and I was born in Kentucky!
I heartily dislike 'modernized' liturgy, both texts and format. If it was good enuf for Cranmer (or Pius V), it's ok for me.
Most of John Rutter's music is wretched pap, but a few of his early things I like.

And I'm sure there are more...

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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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quote:
Originally posted by balaam:
quote:
Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
I like steaks at least medium.

You are aware that restaurants reserve the best for medium-rare, rare and blue. You are paying top dollar for inferior meat.
I don't want "the best" if it makes me feel sick, which both the texture and taste of rare meat does. Besides, the sort of places I can afford to eat at I doubt are bothering with this sort of snobby bollocks.

Eta - and I just knew this would be the one someone wouldn't be able to resist pickkng. Me up on this one. Some people for some reason cannot cope with tastes varying on this one. Unfortunately too many of them work in poncy restaurants.

[ 11. October 2017, 19:33: Message edited by: Karl: Liberal Backslider ]

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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Urgh Android edit fail...

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quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
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Originally posted by RuthW:
I don't support our troops.

Whereas I do. I don't support most of the things they are asked to do though.
I wish people wouldn't sign up for the military in the first place. American use of the military has been largely hideous for decades, and people shouldn't sign up for supporting the atrocity that is American foreign policy. So I don't support people choosing to join our military, and I only pay the taxes that support it because I have no interest in going to prison.
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Tea, wakes and (most) country music are hateful to me. And I live in Donegal. Irish wake central, where weak tea is the beverage of choice at said wakes and country music the ever-present soundtrack.

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quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink.:
quote:
Originally posted by Stetson:
quote:
Originally posted by balaam:

I have never watched an episode of Game of Thrones, and have no desire to do so. The same applies to Harry Potter books and films. I do not feel in any way deprived by this.

I've only watched the first Harry Potter film(directed by schlockmeister Chris Columbus), and thought it was awash in Hollywood anglophile stereotypes about the British public-school system. I was actually kind of surprised more British people weren't offended by it. But what do I know, I guess.
Having being to a traditional British boarding school, I would say that would be because it's only a mildly fantastical version of the truth.
I humbly bow to your personal experience of the school system under discussion. I did get the impression that the creators of that movie were basing it on second-hand(ie. literary or cinematic) portrayals of the boarding schools, but I could indeed be wrong about that.
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Stetson
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quote:
Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
Churchill was not a national hero nor the greatest ever Briton. He was an utter bastard, totally at ease with mass murder and violent repression of dissent.

In the non-UK anglosphere, there tends to be this ill-informed cult of Churchill, based almost entirely on his record in the build-up to World War II(attacking Munich) and of course the war itself. I don't think most of the people braying his name about in foreign-policy debates(especially anti-Soviets during the Cold War) know anything about him prior to 1938, or after 1945. The fact that he was immediately ousted following the end of the war is particularly undermentioned.


Please read Stetson's caution in the following post.
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National Lampoon did this satire on Churchill fetishism some time in the 1970s. You'll probably recognize most of the parodied quotes. (Scroll down for the beginning of the piece.)

[ 11. October 2017, 22:47: Message edited by: jedijudy ]

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Stetson
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Some of the punch-lines in that Churchill piece above are not exactly Heavenly. But I thought of that only after I'd missed the edit window. Read at your own risk.

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quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
The proper name of the game is soccer, which is a type of football. Other types include rugby union (still the game they play in heaven), rugby league, American, Aust Rules and probably many others.

Ain't so. 'Soccer' is an abbreviation for 'Association Football'. I've never watched a complete game on account of finding it utterly boring and generally pointless. You are, of course, quite right about rugby.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ian Climacus:
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Originally posted by simontoad:
I am an anti-soaper.

???

Not knowing what a soaper is, I can't work out if I'm offended or not.
[Biased]

Anti-soaper is a term of convenience for those of us who oppose the soap and perfume industry in all its forms. The reasons for our opposition are legion, and this multiplicity is one of the things that divide us.

I am a co-convener of the Natural Odor Action Faction. We in NOAF cherish the natural smell of humanity above all things. Did you know that different people smell differently, even if they eat the same things? It's one of the wonders obscured by our excessive use of soap (including shampoo) and perfume. Indeed, an expert in human body odor like me can assist in identifying murderers and other criminals, including terrorists before they commit a crime. We would be much safer if it wasn't for the bloody French. Of course if the Natural Oils Crew would just see sense and realise that theirs is a subsidiary issue...

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mousethief

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quote:
Originally posted by Stercus Tauri:
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
The proper name of the game is soccer, which is a type of football.

Ain't so. 'Soccer' is an abbreviation for 'Association Football'.
And that abbreviation has become the proper name of the game. The term "Association football" is the answer to a trivia quiz-show question, not the name of the game.

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simontoad
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quote:
Originally posted by Stercus Tauri:
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
The proper name of the game is soccer, which is a type of football. Other types include rugby union (still the game they play in heaven), rugby league, American, Aust Rules and probably many others.

Ain't so. 'Soccer' is an abbreviation for 'Association Football'. I've never watched a complete game on account of finding it utterly boring and generally pointless. You are, of course, quite right about rugby.
I'm glad someone else finally picked Gee D. up on this appalling post. Aust Rules? What the hell is that? Plus, it's not American Football, it's Gridiron. And what about Gaelic Football and International Rules? Surely these are too important to be relegated to the dismissive 'probably many others' category.


[Mad] [Ultra confused] [Yipee]

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Ian Climacus

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Thank you Mr Toad. I won't stand downwind of you then.
[Razz]

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Originally posted by simontoad:
Did you know that different people smell differently, even if they eat the same things?

My dog (or any dog) could have told you that.
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simontoad
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But why should dogs have all the fun?

Hang on, I just had a massive deja vu. Spooky. I don't think I've mentioned this before...

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balaam

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The Beatles Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band was not their greatest achievement, being inferior, and less original to their previous album Revolver.

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mousethief

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Originally posted by balaam:
The Beatles Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band was not their greatest achievement, being inferior, and less original to their previous album Revolver.

And inferior to Abbey Road, but that's just my opinion.

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I might have to duck for cover with this one, even on a confessions thread, but here goes nothing...

I don't find the hunting and killing of whales to be any more fundamentally barbaric than the hunting and killing of deer, or goats, or pigs, or rabbits, or pheasants, or, indeed, fish.

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Anything with the word radical in it ("church" "mission") If you have to say it, you're not it

Top Gear. Jeremy Clarkson. In fact anyone talking about cars

Car adverts on TV that use Left hand drive cars - in the UK!

Beer. Pubs. Alcohol of all kinds

Football. Most of all. Who really cares?

Swearing. Pointless, aggressive impolite

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It's ok being a white, middle aged hetereosexual man

Oxford University is a dump. A sort of hostel for Townies

Celeb clergy like Richard Coles and Kate Bottley aren't representative of most of us. Most clergy just get on with it all day, every day

I'm not a Royalist ad would like to fly the Red Flag from the new jerusalem

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Ian Climacus

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quote:
Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
Eta - and I just knew this would be the one someone wouldn't be able to resist pickkng. Me up on this one. Some people for some reason cannot cope with tastes varying on this one. Unfortunately too many of them work in poncy restaurants.

You're one up on me at least...I have mine charcoaled. [Disappointed]

(cue outrage)

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I don't like football at all, have never been to a match, and watched very little of it on TV.

I don't like beer, lager, bitter or any of those hoppy drinks. I would rather drink wine or (decent) cider.

Despite this I am definately a straight male.

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quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
I don't like beer, lager, bitter or any of those hoppy drinks. I would rather drink wine or (decent) cider.

Despite this I am definately a straight male.

Ditto.
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quote:
Originally posted by ExclamationMark:
Anything with the word radical in it ("church" "mission")

And "vibrant" (you know it's my bete noire).
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Celeb clergy like Richard Coles ... aren't representative of most of us.

Indeed. I can't dance for toffee, nor do I wear a clerical suit all the time. But, then, I'm not an Anglican. [Devil]
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I don't like football at all

I never saw the point of any organized sport. Simply bad manners governed by a rule book. All that grabbing, shoving, etc. If they'd only wait their turn, I'm sure the nice boys would let them play with their ball.

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Sipech
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quote:
Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
I never saw the point of any organized sport. Simply bad manners governed by a rule book. All that grabbing, shoving, etc. If they'd only wait their turn, I'm sure the nice boys would let them play with their ball.

That's why we have cricket, with laws, not rules, played within the spirit of the game.

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Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
I don't like football at all

I never saw the point of any organized sport. Simply bad manners governed by a rule book. All that grabbing, shoving, etc. If they'd only wait their turn, I'm sure the nice boys would let them play with their ball.
Play what? You've just taken away all their games.

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quote:
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That's why we have cricket, with laws, not rules, played within the spirit of the game.

Such as "bodyline" bowling or bouncers, sledging, picking at the seam of the ball, appealing for decisions that you know weren't "out", spinning out the over rate ...
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Sipech:
That's why we have cricket, with laws, not rules, played within the spirit of the game.

Such as "bodyline" bowling or bouncers, sledging, picking at the seam of the ball, appealing for decisions that you know weren't "out", spinning out the over rate ...
Come on, this nit-picking is just not cricket.

Hardy is an interesting one. I just reread A Pair of Blue Eyes after 20 years and was driven mad by his sexist comments about women, which he made nearly all the time. Perhaps I should reread Far From the Madding Crowd.

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Back to unpopular opinions...

Michael Jackson was utter shite.

Food should come on plates, not shovels, not in little shopping trolleys, on slates or hung up on a shopping line. "Deconstructed" food is pretentious bollocks; putting mashed potato on top of the meat is the whole point of a Shepherd's Pie.

Red wine goes better than white with chicken. In fact it goes better with anything because white wine is wee-wee.

Beer goes better with cheese than wine does.

Scrambled eggs and omelettes should never have any liquid egg remaining; they do not go "leathery" when this is ensured; they go "cooked and no longer disgusting".

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A Pair Of Blue Eyes is, as enny fule kno, partly autobiographical, but I can't say I'm aware of Hardy being particularly sexist in that or any of his other novels.

Many of his heroines (or even anti-heroines, such as Sue Bridehead or Eustachia Vye) are portrayed as strong women of independent thought, despite the tragic events that take place in their lives.

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Sorry to double-post, but Karl is Right about red wine going with chicken, and that white wine is (with rare exceptions, the names of which I can't at the moment recall) reconstituted urine.

Oh, and I dislike Dogs (properly-trained Working Dogs excepted), as they are generally a foul mess at one end, and a foul noise at the other end.

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[Originally posted by mistake in the movies thread...]

I don't see what was so brilliantly witty about Mandy Rice-Davies saying "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" at the Profumo trial.

The lawyer had basically asked her opinion about Astor's denial that he had an affair with her, and she replied with what I would have assumed is a pretty logical counterpoint, ie. obviously Astor would have an interest in denying he commited adultery.

I guess it's maybe one of those "different time, different place" sorta things? In the early 60s, it was still somewhat shocking that an 18 year old woman would so casually dismiss the claims of a respected aristocrat? Still find it hard to believe that it would be THAT much of an eyebrow raiser, especially considering that she had already said they had an affair.

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Michael Jackson was utter shite.


I've always found it odd that immediately after it became the vogue to start laughing at disco, Michael Jackson came along and took pop culture by storm, since his music to me seems pretty indistinguihshable from disco.

That said, I wouldn't say his music was "shite", though I didn't think there was anything really interesting or even catchy about it. Back during his heyday, I was at a loss to figure out what all the hoopla was about.

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I don't like football at all

I never saw the point of any organized sport. Simply bad manners governed by a rule book. All that grabbing, shoving, etc. If they'd only wait their turn, I'm sure the nice boys would let them play with their ball.
The thing is, i do quite like Rugby and ice hockey. In fact any game where it is legitimate to "body block" an opponent (run into them), is fun to watch. Less sport, IMO, more just people scrapping without doing lasting damage.

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Originally posted by Stercus Tauri:
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Originally posted by Gee D:
The proper name of the game is soccer, which is a type of football.

Ain't so. 'Soccer' is an abbreviation for 'Association Football'.
And that abbreviation has become the proper name of the game.
But only in north america. Which is not, contrary to the belief of many north americans, the centre of the world and the arbiter of all human activity

The game in qestion is organized throughout the owrld (including in North America) by a body called FIFA -- I don't see an S for soccer in its title ...but I do see an F for football.

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Flashdance is a really good film.

(Once you get past the 80s clothing.)

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Originally posted by John Holding:
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Originally posted by mousethief:
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Originally posted by Stercus Tauri:
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Originally posted by Gee D:
The proper name of the game is soccer, which is a type of football.

Ain't so. 'Soccer' is an abbreviation for 'Association Football'.
And that abbreviation has become the proper name of the game.
But only in north america. Which is not, contrary to the belief of many north americans, the centre of the world and the arbiter of all human activity

The game in qestion is organized throughout the owrld (including in North America) by a body called FIFA -- I don't see an S for soccer in its title ...but I do see an F for football.

John

The S-O-C- in soccer is for asSOCiation football. It is a British nickname which seems to have dropped in usage soon after the Americans started using it.
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
I like steaks at least medium.

You are aware that restaurants reserve the best for medium-rare, rare and blue. You are paying top dollar for inferior meat.
If you cook it to medium, how could you tell anyway?

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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
I don't want "the best" if it makes me feel sick, which both the texture and taste of rare meat does. Besides, the sort of places I can afford to eat at I doubt are bothering with this sort of snobby bollocks.

It isn't "snobby bollocks". The correct temperature of a cut of meat is whichever one you prefer. However, if cooked to medium or more, much of the flavour is gone. Like drinking beer cold, the flavour profile is limited.

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Elvis was overrated

I do not like London

I do not give money to any military charities

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Originally posted by ExclamationMark:

Celeb clergy like Richard Coles and Kate Bottley aren't representative of most of us. Most clergy just get on with it all day, every day

But I suppose that to most British people the clergy are invisible. Celeb clergy at least remind ordinary folk that such people still exist. I do wonder where they find the time to be on telly or host radio shows, though.

OK, now I'm going to throw Harry Potter into the ring. I read the first one, and I was even dragged along to the first film. Decent enough for kids, I'm sure, but I really don't get the fuss, and I haven't bothered with any more installments.

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