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Eirenist
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Mistakenly believing and saying that a hostile power has weapons of mass destruction does not automatically make you a liar. Nor did Tony Blair single-handedly start the Iraq War. Nor is he the AntiChrist.

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Originally posted by betjemaniac:
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
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Originally posted by Melisande:
Benedict Cumberbatch is weird-looking.

His face is perfect for radio.
so are his abilities as a pilot....
Oh, I miss Cabin Pressure so much. Bleak Expectations was great too.

M le Cucumberpatch was pretty good as Hamlet, I thought, though I'm no theatre expert, and am hardly the least biased person to give an opinion. [Biased] Andrew Scott, though, was amazing. Properly goosebump inducing.

I see my unpopular opinion on the not-very-funniness of the work of Douglas Adams has been taken already.

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Originally posted by SvitlanaV2:
Talking of radio shows, 'Just a Minute' always makes me feel nervous. Maybe other people love it.

Makes me nervous, too. I find I can't settle to listen to it because I'm waiting for that bloody buzzer to interrupt. And sometimes I want to hear what the person is saying despite the deviation, repetition and whatever the other thing is. Oh yeah.... er..... hesitation. <buzzz>

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A bit late, but: Come back, Nick Clegg, all is forgiven.

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quote:
Originally posted by Eirenist:
A bit late, but: Come back, Nick Clegg, all is forgiven.

Agreed. The LibDems clearly mitigated the worst Tory excesses then got the blame for broken promises they could hardly have enforced. Things could have been a lot worse.

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Originally posted by Eirenist:
A bit late, but: Come back, Nick Clegg, all is forgiven.

Agree. With hindsight, he was in a no-win situation, because the Tories were - and still are - manipulative, lying scum. And they had a patsy to blame ofr everything.

His only major failing was that he went with the Tories not Labour. If he had gone with Labour, we would be in a very different situation now, I think.

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I am as fond of conspiracy theories as anyone else (*popcorn*smoking gun* aliens*) but really don't care who killed JFK.

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I don't think Amy Winehouse's cover of "Valerie" was the best song on Mark Ronson's album "Version"

[ 27. October 2017, 09:00: Message edited by: Wet Kipper ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Wet Kipper:
I don't think Amy Winehouse's cover of "Valerie" was the best song on Mark Ronson's album "Version"

...and the Zutons' version is much better.

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quote:
Originally posted by Stejjie:
quote:
Originally posted by Wet Kipper:
I don't think Amy Winehouse's cover of "Valerie" was the best song on Mark Ronson's album "Version"

...and the Zutons' version is much better.
Her cover of "Valerie" was terrible, as was most of her output, to be frank. That's my UO for the day.

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Unpopular opinion of the day:

*even* when you don't think they're going to win the seat, it's a good idea to vet *even* the paperiest of paper candidates properly.

Just in case they do win.

[ 27. October 2017, 11:11: Message edited by: betjemaniac ]

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No unpopular with me, Bejtemaniac.

But a friend trying to do just that before casting their vote for Synod was greeted with umbrage for trying to ascertain candidates' views on various issues. The general reaction was [Eek!]

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MaryLouise--

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Originally posted by MaryLouise:
I am as fond of conspiracy theories as anyone else (*popcorn*smoking gun* aliens*) but really don't care who killed JFK.

There's a theory about popcorn??

I suspect it's mostly Americans who care about JFK's death. Still a problematic wound for the culture and many people. Irish (Kennedy roots) and the English (connection through Lord Mountbatten, IIRC) might care, too.

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Sioni Sais
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quote:
Originally posted by betjemaniac:
Unpopular opinion of the day:

*even* when you don't think they're going to win the seat, it's a good idea to vet *even* the paperiest of paper candidates properly.

Just in case they do win.

Old time (well, 1970s) trade union leader Jack Jones was firmly of the opinion that you shouldn't hold a vote if you don't know what the result is going to be.

I think that is what the Tories meant when they said the Unions had too much power.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
quote:
Originally posted by betjemaniac:
Unpopular opinion of the day:

*even* when you don't think they're going to win the seat, it's a good idea to vet *even* the paperiest of paper candidates properly.

Just in case they do win.

Old time (well, 1970s) trade union leader Jack Jones was firmly of the opinion that you shouldn't hold a vote if you don't know what the result is going to be.

I think that is what the Tories meant when they said the Unions had too much power.

I'll raise you another unpopular opinion (well 2 really);

Jack Jones was a brave man. Also an idiot.

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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
... His only major failing was that he went with the Tories not Labour. If he had gone with Labour, we would be in a very different situation now, I think.

That's a myth that was never going to happen,

1. The maths didn't work, and

2. Gordon Brown would never have done a deal. It would have been beyond the scope of his personality. And if the deal had been 'we'll form a coalition with you, but only on condition you change your leader', that wasn't going to happen either.

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Second post
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Originally posted by MaryLouise:
I ... really don't care who killed JFK.

I think Oswald did it, but I don't really care either. And I'm not convinced it's either interesting or matters.

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quote:
Originally posted by Enoch:
Second post
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Originally posted by MaryLouise:
I ... really don't care who killed JFK.

I think Oswald did it, but I don't really care either. And I'm not convinced it's either interesting or matters.
All that is remotely interesting is whether Oswald was acting on his own initiative or for another party.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
quote:
Originally posted by Enoch:
Second post
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Originally posted by MaryLouise:
I ... really don't care who killed JFK.

I think Oswald did it, but I don't really care either. And I'm not convinced it's either interesting or matters.
All that is remotely interesting is whether Oswald was acting on his own initiative or for another party.
JFK was a hardly a paragon of virtue. Cant see what everyone saw in him unless it was the Irish American chip on his shoulder.
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quote:
Originally posted by ExclamationMark:
JFK was a hardly a paragon of virtue. Cant see what everyone saw in him unless it was the Irish American chip on his shoulder.

[Roll Eyes]
He was charismatic, considered good looking and strong public speaker. I mean, what is there to understand about his popularity?

Personal character is rarely what gains people awe.

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I see no reason to ever drink coffee, smells good, tastes bad.

I do not like most music, hardly ever listen to it. Have no idea what is popular, and do not care.

Found Star Wars movies a total bore.

I do not like children in general, but do like particular children one or two at a time very much.

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I am conservative when it comes to (viable-onwards) abortion and all euthanasia. And the resurrection.

Bloody hell ... I'll be Thwump supporter soon. [Eek!]

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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Today's UO - when it comes to the positivity or otherwise of the impact of religions on the world, Dawkins et al. have a good point.

[ 28. October 2017, 04:47: Message edited by: Karl: Liberal Backslider ]

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Originally posted by Graven Image:
I see no reason to ever drink coffee, smells good, tastes bad.

Hear².

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Today's UO - when it comes to the positivity or otherwise of the impact of religions on the world, Dawkins et al. have a good point.

I have moments of singing John Lennon's "Imagine".

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Golden Key
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quote:
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Originally posted by ExclamationMark:
JFK was a hardly a paragon of virtue. Cant see what everyone saw in him unless it was the Irish American chip on his shoulder.

[Roll Eyes]
He was charismatic, considered good looking and strong public speaker. I mean, what is there to understand about his popularity?

Personal character is rarely what gains people awe.

I don't want to derail this into a JFK thread. But a couple of things:

--Yes, JFK had serious flaws.

--He was also a WWII naval hero. When his ship, PT 109, sank, he saved many lives. There is some controversy about exact details, but it was publicly believed at the time. Do a search on "JFK PT 109".

--He had severe back problems (possibly from the PT 109 incident), and IIRC Addison's disease..

--There was also the "Camelot" mythology and magic that built around JFK, Jackie, and the kids. AIUI, it had been some time since young kids lived at the White House. And Jackie was an icon of grace and style. Women followed her fashion lead.

--He was our first/only Catholic president. This was before Vatican II, and very, very controversial. Not to mention the way many people felt about the Irish.

--And there was little John-John, in a heavy coat, saluting his dead father.

Just trying to show that there were many factors.
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quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
quote:
Originally posted by Graven Image:
I see no reason to ever drink coffee, smells good, tastes bad.

Hear².
Me 3, except for coffee ice cream in Mud Pie.

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You are clearly not drinking the right coffee.

UO - humanity sucks. Some people are lovely, but it seems the default setting is a shit.

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I like Les Misérables but agree that the 100 page digression on the subject of the Paris sewers is not Hugo’s finest hour.

Whereas I think that that and the other chapter on 'merde' should have been in the musical.
(My if I ever had the energy to do it, is to produce a more keeping to the book version as a present for a friend).

As an opinion, that book and Vanity fair I think have the best descriptions of the battle of Waterloo.

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Québec is a bilingual province and so is Ontario.

I am going to run away now.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Wet Kipper:
I don't think Amy Winehouse's cover of "Valerie" was the best song on Mark Ronson's album "Version"

...and the Zutons' version is much better.
Well said.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Stejjie:
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Originally posted by Wet Kipper:
I don't think Amy Winehouse's cover of "Valerie" was the best song on Mark Ronson's album "Version"

...and the Zutons' version is much better.
Well said.
The Zutons is better, but it is still a pretty poor song. I don't know why it gets so much play.

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Ah, I love it. But then I'm ginger.

My UO, prompted by GK's post, is that I really, really really don't like the song Imagine. In fact, I don't much care for either the music (solo), or the person of John Lennon. I also can't stand the song Sexual Healing. I have been known to vault furniture in an effort to get to the radio off switch if it's on.

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I agree Jemima. Imagine is an awful, pretentious dirge, I don't like John Lennon one bit, and that's nothing to do with Yoko.
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Although I've lived in Cardiff for most of my life, I have not the slightest interest in rugby, and think that the Welsh language is vastly over-promoted (especially in this area) at the expense of common sense.

I'm probably going to get called to Hell over the second statement. [Devil]

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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
I agree Jemima. Imagine is an awful, pretentious dirge, I don't like John Lennon one bit, and that's nothing to do with Yoko.

It annoys religious fundamentalists, which is a massive plus point.

UO of the day - great as he was with Art Garfunkel, Paul Simon's solo work sucked, yes, even Graceland.

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Aravis--


[Biased] There's an old joke that Welsh and Hawai'ian were once one language. Then they split up. Welsh got the consonants, and Hawai'ian got the vowels.

Perhaps you could put them back together?
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--Agree that S & G together were vastly better than S separately. He needs G's wonderful voice to balance his. Not sure I'd go as far as saying that S's solo music sucked.

--Re "Imagine": I only use it when some stupid thing involving religion has happened, and I just want to chuck the whole thing.

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Originally posted by Golden Key:
Aravis--


[Biased] There's an old joke that Welsh and Hawai'ian were once one language. Then they split up. Welsh got the consonants, and Hawai'ian got the vowels.

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Welsh has seven vowel symbols, more than Hawai'ian, and a rich array of diphthongs. Some words e.g. Wy, Wyau (egg, eggs) - are made up entirely of vowels. This tired old joke is crap because it's not based even on an exaggeration. Welsh is in fact a very vowelly language, and tends towards softer consonants, partially because of the mutation system which frequently changes c to g, t to d, gw to w. Dd and f are pronounced so softly they are frequently dropped altogether. The ignorance gets trying after a while.

[ 29. October 2017, 08:01: Message edited by: Karl: Liberal Backslider ]

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I have the unpopular opinion that there isn't enough Welsh in Cardiff and that the day that one walks into a shop and is greeted with a cheery "Bore da" would be a major accomplishment.

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My wife - she and I having only recently moved here - would be of the same opinion.
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quote:
Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
Welsh has seven vowel symbols, more than Hawai'ian, and a rich array of diphthongs. Some words e.g. Wy, Wyau (egg, eggs) - are made up entirely of vowels. This tired old joke is crap because it's not based even on an exaggeration. Welsh is in fact a very vowelly language, and tends towards softer consonants, partially because of the mutation system which frequently changes c to g, t to d, gw to w. Dd and f are pronounced so softly they are frequently dropped altogether. The ignorance gets trying after a while.

My observation is that the thing with Welsh (and presumably also Cornish which is similar I think) is that it sounds nothing like English. If an English-speaker hears someone speaking Welsh they don't recognise more than the very odd word. Which I think makes English-speaking people confused, the poor darlings - they're used to hearing Europeans speaking languages that sound vaguely familiar.

But then I don't really understand the hatred of the Welsh language. There are various small places in Europe that have languages that nobody else understands, some where another is commonly spoken.

Meh. Deal with it.

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Originally posted by Golden Key:
--Agree that S & G together were vastly better than S separately. He needs G's wonderful voice to balance his. Not sure I'd go as far as saying that S's solo music sucked.

--Re "Imagine": I only use it when some stupid thing involving religion has happened, and I just want to chuck the whole thing.

In both cases, the groups together were much better than the individual parts.

Although I still think S&G as a duo were better than the Beatles. And both individuals did manage some moderately decent pieces afterwards, although nothing really special.

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quote:
Originally posted by mr cheesy:
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
Welsh has seven vowel symbols, more than Hawai'ian, and a rich array of diphthongs. Some words e.g. Wy, Wyau (egg, eggs) - are made up entirely of vowels. This tired old joke is crap because it's not based even on an exaggeration. Welsh is in fact a very vowelly language, and tends towards softer consonants, partially because of the mutation system which frequently changes c to g, t to d, gw to w. Dd and f are pronounced so softly they are frequently dropped altogether. The ignorance gets trying after a while.

My observation is that the thing with Welsh (and presumably also Cornish which is similar I think) is that it sounds nothing like English. If an English-speaker hears someone speaking Welsh they don't recognise more than the very odd word. Which I think makes English-speaking people confused, the poor darlings - they're used to hearing Europeans speaking languages that sound vaguely familiar.

But then I don't really understand the hatred of the Welsh language. There are various small places in Europe that have languages that nobody else understands, some where another is commonly spoken.

Meh. Deal with it.

I also think they hear the Rh, Ll and Ch,because they don't occur in English, but they're hardly the whole language

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quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
--Agree that S & G together were vastly better than S separately. He needs G's wonderful voice to balance his. Not sure I'd go as far as saying that S's solo music sucked.

--Re "Imagine": I only use it when some stupid thing involving religion has happened, and I just want to chuck the whole thing.

In both cases, the groups together were much better than the individual parts.

Although I still think S&G as a duo were better than the Beatles. And both individuals did manage some moderately decent pieces afterwards, although nothing really special.

Hmm, I disagree. Paul Simon's Graceland was seminal in getting African music out from the 'world music' bin and into wider hearing. Without 'You Can Call Me Al' there would have been no Lion King.

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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
Hmm, I disagree. Paul Simon's Graceland was seminal in getting African music out from the 'world music' bin and into wider hearing. Without 'You Can Call Me Al' there would have been no Lion King.

And that would be a bad thing?

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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
Hmm, I disagree. Paul Simon's Graceland was seminal in getting African music out from the 'world music' bin and into wider hearing. Without 'You Can Call Me Al' there would have been no Lion King.

And that would be a bad thing?

I detest Disney cartoons

Oh, it was a loathsome movie. I'm thinking purely of the music. Lion King, you must admit, was popular -- and now every ear under the age of 15 is attuned to African music rhythms. You can hear its influence in musical theater and pop. And it was Simon who opened that door.

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quote:
Originally posted by mr cheesy:
I have the unpopular opinion that there isn't enough Welsh in Cardiff and that the day that one walks into a shop and is greeted with a cheery "Bore da" would be a major accomplishment.

I'm delighted to find myself in agreement with you on this.
(IME the main places you'll hear Welsh in Cardiff, outside places like Chapter Arts Centre,are John Lewis and Ikea, which presumably people travel to because they're the only ones in Wales- but from customers rather than staff.)

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