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Zappa
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.. and not an intelligent response from Johnson Charles

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From afar, and only looking at the numbers, I don't quite know what to make of Guptil's inings - another ridiculously big score, at well over a run a ball, but on the other hand to stay there for fifty overs and carry your bat... Shit, I'd be chuffed to score that many in a season!

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I heard most of Guptill's innings and it makes sense to regard it as two knocks. A ODI century in 111 balls, which is good for an opener but not outstanding, followed by an end-of-innings assault that brought 137 of 52 balls!

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When we go to Edgbaston to see England vs NZ in June, I just hope NZ bat first so we get at least one 50-over innings!

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I'm a Blackcaps fan and have tickets for the final. I think I may lose my fingers on Tuesday.
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I hope the Kiwis do it - anyone but Australia!

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At last a classic - Kiwistan into the final, set 298 off 43 by D/L, and they make it by 4 wickets with one ball to spare. 45,000 New Zealand bums squeaked in unison!

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45,000? Try 4,500,000!

Blinking HECK! I really really really hope they don't make a habit of last ball 6s, awesome though they are. I might have a stroke next Sunday.

I have tickets!!!!

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That finish shows that Duckworth & Lewis have, again, got it dead right. There are lots of close finishes in ODIs but (this is something I heard a while back) a disproportionate number are D/L targets! They concentrate the mind.

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quote:
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45,000? Try 4,500,000!

Blinking HECK! I really really really hope they don't make a habit of last ball 6s, awesome though they are. I might have a stroke next Sunday.

I have tickets!!!!

Calm down - you had a whole ball to spare.

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I suppose this is the moment where I should be thankful that the England team has done my heart a favour by not putting me through such a tension-filled experience.

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When I posted about Michael Vaughan's prediction on 13th February I thought it was a long shot [Eek!] but now I'm not so sure.

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Kohli's just done his best to scupper India - out for 1 off 13!

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Well, it's gone to at least one journalist's head.

[Snigger] [Snigger]

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I'm afraid I won't be able to watch tonight's game (kiwi time). Partly because I am doing minor things like appointing a new Director of Music. Partly because, as Imaginary Friend has hinted, this game comes with health risks. Apart from anything else I can cope with losing to anyone except Australia - and I do think the odds favour them in terms not so much of ball and bat and field skills, but in terms of home ground familiar knowledge of the "G", and that slightly icier psyche that nearly won them (won Starc) the match in Auckland last month.

Happy to be proved wrong. And Macrina - brilliant! but I'd be coming home in a body bag.

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Disappointing game. [Disappointed]

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[Waterworks]

[ 29. March 2015, 10:14: Message edited by: Uncle Pete ]

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Couldn't really call it a stressful game [Biased] I do think New Zealand were a better team than they showed in that game-seemed their batsmen just cracked under the pressure-they made some incredibly reckless shots.
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Woo hoo!!! Fantastic result.

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But this is why the Black Caps, not these will always be my heroes.

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Especially from the QFs onwards, Australia showed themselves to have strength in depth in all the technical aspects of cricket, i.e. batting, bowling and fielding. (Some of their run-outs and catches were outstanding.) Too much so for all the other sides, though none of the other semifinalists had glaring weaknesses in any of these technical aspects. Therefore Australia won the cup. Australia's only glaring weakness was in graciousness, but that doesn't often show in a team's results.

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But this is why the Black Caps, not these will always be my heroes.

Australia's graciousness both in victory and defeat has frequently been noted as severely lacking.

I was pleased on noting the graciousness of NZ both in victory and in defeat. Both McCullum and Elliot were (and are) class acts.

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Yup. The pope's still catholic, bears still shit in the woods, and Australian sportsmen are marginally more obnoxious than those from other countries. Very little to see here, IMNVHO.

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Disappointing game. [Disappointed]

Was rather.

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I have checked the Aussie touring party and just decided that baseball is definitely the game to follow this summer.

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I know it's not REAL cricket but the IPL starts this week - it may not be the real game but it can be quite entertaining at times.

I'm still shouting for Chennai Super Kings - will I be disappointed again?

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Richie Benaud has died. I find this really sad, not just because of all the fond memories that I have of listening to Test Match Special, but also because I learned so much about the history of cricket from him. He was one of the good'uns, and he'll be missed.

[Votive] [Frown]

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I feel exactly the same about Richie. I never saw him play but my Dad, not usually a fan of Australians, rated him very highly as a player and a man, noting particularly his captaincy. He was a marvellous commentator who never showed off.

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Richie Benaud was ever the gentleman who believed in treating his audience with respect. I admired the way he always dressed in suit and tie to commentate, explaining that he felt it was discourteous to comee into people's living rooms in any other attire. I also remember with fondness some of his amusing quips eg Glenn McGrath had just got out for 2 when batting. Richie announced that Glenn had been dismissed for 98 short of a century!

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So, does one half-decent innings make Captain Cook's position secure for the rest of the summer?

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So, does one half-decent innings make Captain Cook's position secure for the rest of the summer?

Yep. Cook will remain captain until the ECB are happy that Root has the right level of experience. Then it'll be a coronation.

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In fairness, Root looks like a proper little player. And personally, I'd prefer to have a skipper who isn't an opening bat - gives them more opportunity to compartmentalise their batting responsibilities from their captaincy.

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So, does one half-decent innings make Captain Cook's position secure for the rest of the summer?

Yep. Cook will remain captain until the ECB are happy that Root has the right level of experience. Then it'll be a coronation.
It's hardly one half-decent innings. I didn't believe it myself but Cook has four fifties from his last seven innings. His problem is that he's not scored a hundred since May 2013, which is twenty tests ago. He gets into double figures often enough but isn't turning enough of them into centuries, which used to be his stock in trade.

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Cooky!

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I'll give England 6/10 at half-time so far. We are short of a bowler, not to mention variety in that department and we need an opening bat to partner Cook. A lead of 68 runs on a dodgy track shows the opposition has far more serious problems.

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It's a bit of a gripper, isn't it? Trouble is, if we aren't rained off tomorrow, the match could be over before our game!

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Well, the Aussies will be crapping themselves at the thought of playing England after that.

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I sincerely wish my earlier post hadn't been so accurate: a duff opener, four right-arm fast-medium bowlers and two part-time off-spinners won't win too many matches in the county championship.

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Especially if you also bat like numpties. [Mad]

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Especially if you also bat like numpties. [Mad]

I hadn't mentioned that, but it tipped the balance in the Barbados debacle.

I'm pleased to see that the West Indies PTB have rammed the words of the latest ECB chairman back down his throat. Colin Graves, the gung-ho ex Yorkshire boss had declared that anything less than a series win would cause the traditional enquiry to sort out English cricket. I wish him luck. Sort of.

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The main problem at the moment is England's senior management. I hate to agree with Boycott, but not picking a "proper" spinner on that pitch was ridiculous. Wanting a settled team is one thing, intransigent inflexibility is another. I don't hold out much hope that anything will change, but that's where the inquiry should focus.

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No doubt they'll look for positives in the data.

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True story: (It starts with football, but bear with me, it is really about the cricket.)

A friend and I were discussing Chelsea's recent success. She wondered if Chelsea are still in crisis.

"Of course not", I replied, "we're boring now."

"Can't we be boring and in crisis?"

"I don't think so. Crisis is inherently not boring."

"But surely a crisis can be so predictable and repeatable that it becomes very boring?"

At which point I realised I was a supporter of the English cricket team and that my friend was absolutely right!

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tangent/

Everton's league performance between 1996-97 and 2003-04 was boring and the club was in crisis too. Apart from one year in which we finished seventh we were 13th, 14th, 15th, 16th and 17th (twice). On one occasion we escaped relegation thanks to goals in two matches in the last five minutes of the season.

It got very wearing.

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On a lighter note, first match of the season for my old department last night. We lost, mostly due to failings with the bat (quite possibly due to looming darkness - it got VERY gloomy!), but fielded very well, lots of new people who got stuck in, and generally good fun despite the result, if that's not being too Peter Moores.

On a personal level, I got my first wicket of the season - I even got it to turn on the yard of lard that is the astro wicket we play on - ran someone out with a direct hit, and thoroughly amused everyone in the team of a certain age when I came back at the end of our our innings to discover that I'd made n-n-n-n-nineteen not out.

Just wish I felt that good in everyday life at the moment...

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Everyone is suspiciously quiet on the KP shenanigans. I thought Mark Chapman summed it up best when interviewing some former Australian Test player by opening with "So, this must be the funniest thing ever for you guys..."

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I think we're just hoping that if we ignore it, it'll go away...

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"It becomes soon pleasantly apparent that change-ringing is by no means merely an excuse for beer" Charles Dickens gets it wrong, 1869

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Imaginary Friend

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Posted without comment.

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"We had a good team on paper. Unfortunately, the game was played on grass."
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Thank you, IF.

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Very good. I haven't seen a decent Hitler spoof for ages. They should show it to Cook, and he might bat his way to a dreary century.

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