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Marvin the Martian
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Why? Two words - TV money. The Euro clubs rely on it. If they rebel against FIFA, they run the risk of being kicked out of the competitions which give them the money they need and crave.
FIFA don't run any of the competitions those clubs enter, with the exception of the "oh hey, is that thing still going" Club World Championship. UEFA run the Champions League, and the various national leagues are run by their national FAs. And frankly, I think those organisations would rather rebel against FIFA than have their clubs secede from them and form a breakaway league.
I mean, can you imagine UEFA just sitting back while the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, Man Utd, etc. decide to bugger off and organise their own competition? Because let's be absolutely honest here - if they did that, the TV money would follow them without a shadow of a doubt. The big competitions make money because the big clubs are in them, not the other way around.
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Proper football back tomorrow!!
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Okay everyone, when do I start seriously thinking Southampton could do something special this season? We're battering Sunderland 7-0 and sitting pretty in third place, only behind Chelsea and Man City.
I suppose I start believing we can qualify for Europe when we get a result against a top team - of them, we've only met Liverpool and Spurs so far and lost narrowly both times.
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Oscar the Grouch
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Originally posted by South Coast Kevin:
Okay everyone, when do I start seriously thinking Southampton could do something special this season? We're battering Sunderland 7-0 and sitting pretty in third place, only behind Chelsea and Man City.
I suppose I start believing we can qualify for Europe when we get a result against a top team - of them, we've only met Liverpool and Spurs so far and lost narrowly both times.
Full Time - 8-0!
I'm shocked (pleasantly, of course). Sadly, if this goes on much longer, Koeman won't be at the Saints for too long. Even if he turns down the soon-to-be-vacant Netherlands post, I can see him being snapped up by a "bigger club". Perhaps Spurs will come acalling again??
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Yeah, what's up with Southampton? Good on them though. I've got nothing against them.
Nice win for West Ham yesterday. Fourth in the Premiership. Sakho is on fire. That's six goals in six starts. We're above the Arse snd Spuds, which is nice.
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I tell you what, I dread to think what Real are going to do to Liverpool this week....
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Sioni Sais
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Coleman and Barkley are back, Baines and Lukaku hit form and Everton keep a clean sheet!
Be afraid, be very afraid.
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Sir Kevin
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Arsene really made an arse of himself when being interviewed by the pretty journalist, didn't he?
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
Coleman and Barkley are back, Baines and Lukaku hit form and Everton keep a clean sheet!
Be afraid, be very afraid.
You've been due, for sure.
United, on the other hand, continue to struggle. We visit Old Trafford on Sunday, and I must say, it's been a very long time since I've felt this confident before that particular fixture. In fact, logic and reason suggests that the odds are so much in our favour, I'm considering making an offering to the football gods to make sure that they don't take this opportunity to remind everyone who is really in charge!
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Originally posted by Imaginary Friend:
I tell you what, I dread to think what Real are going to do to Liverpool this week....
I was listening on the radio, and Liverpool were indeed taught a bit of a lesson, by the sounds of things. Mr Rodgers still has some work to do, especially with the defence - yet they've spent a small fortune on defenders recently, hmmm.
I'm out this afternoon so won't be able to properly follow the mighty Saints as they try to make up ground on Chelsea at the top of the Prem ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) Also, for one afternoon only, I am a Sam Allardyce fan - hoping West Ham can nick points off Man City.
Any other hopes, dreams, fears for this round of fixtures?
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We're away at United, so the pressure is on us to expose their rather weak defence and run up a cricket score. Problem is, one of our strikers has a groin strain, one was hospitalized with a stomach virus this week, and the other is too old to run around for ninety minutes. So we either have to draft in a youngster*, rely on a non-specialist, or hope that the old man can cope with sixty minutes or so and we can win the game in that time. Personally, I suspect that José will go for the latter option.
Other than that, apart from the obligatory things** I don't know that I'm too bothered about other results. I reckon the league is in our hands (mathematically, that's certainly true) so I'm just going to focus on our own efforts. The rest will come out in the wash.
* During our European Cup game this week, we gave a debut to seventeen year old forward Dom Solanke. He looks like a decent prospect, although I wouldn't go so far as to say he's ready to lead the line for us at Old Trafford.
** Liverpool loss, QPR comedy, vague benevolence to Everton, and wishing the very worst on Leeds and Bristol City.
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Your lot had better get a result against Man U (I expect you will, tbh...) as Koeman's red and white army are hot on your heels! Second place, oh my goodness.
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Another good win for West Ham and another goal for Sakho. Still only the start of the season but a good start nevertheless. Is it too early to start dreaming or will they fade and die, as the song goes?
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Well how about that?
José did indeed go with the geriatric striker. Who proceeded to score a goal direct from a corner, but otherwise look every bit his age.
At one point, after defending a corner, he was running back up the field away from our box, and I was reminded of an old steam engine lumbering away from the platform. Chug. Chug. Chug, chug. Chug, chug, chug. Chugchugchugchug, chugchugchugchugchugchugchug whooooopwhoooooooooop!
It's a bit sad to see, really.
And while I don't want to blame the referee for our loss (we should have scored a second goal in the second half while we were dominating the game) I am intrigued as to how Ryan Shawcross can give away a penalty for wrestling in the box last week, but one not be given against the United defenders this week. Am I being one-eyed for hoping for a bit of consistency?
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Aw bless, and you so wanted a cricket score...
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Of course I wanted a cricket score. Doesn't every fan always want their team to win resoundingly? I was never very confident that it would happen though.
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Somebody needs sacking at White Hart Lane!
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I owe my colleague a Guinness: his side Arsenal got better. The powers that be at my side have decided that defense is no longer necessary. I was so upset I fast-forwarded through the second half once the score was 2-1! I've got some eight-year-olds that need a coach...
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
Somebody needs sacking at White Hart Lane!
The 'Manager of the Year' award is well deserved, but not within a single club. It's about as good for a football club as the Year of the Four Emperors was for Rome.
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The big football news from the other side of the world is that Western Sydney Wanderers have just won the Asian Champions League! Along the way they beat in succession the champion clubs of Korea, China and Saudi Arabia, each of which has a player budget about 10 times greater than the Wanderers, a club which has been in existence only for the past 3 years.
The WSW manager is Tony Popovic, once of Crystal Palace, so those who remember him won't be surprised to learn that a strong defence (and a fanatical support base!) are the keys to their success.
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Imaginary Friend
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Brendan Rodgers: Buzzword charlatan.
Resting those players mid-week worked so well for you, didn't it? Gerrard was a paragon of pace and vitality in midfield, Balotelli the picture of an engaged centre forward, and youthful energy effervesced from Sterling. And you lost your third game in eight days.
Great work, Brendan!
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Sioni Sais
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Some odd results in the Euro 2016 qualifiers: Germany 'only' scored four against Gibraltar but the highlight must be the Faroe Islands winning in Greece!
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The Tinkerman just got sacked off the back of this result. Shame really, I still have a soft spot for him.
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Sioni Sais
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Get the Kleenex. Stan is back.
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So, when was the last time that Arsenal v United had so little bearing on the title race?
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Imaginary Friend:
So, when was the last time that Arsenal v United had so little bearing on the title race?
Is it permissible to say that I don't f*****g care?
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For sure. And in fairness, I only "care" because it's gloriously amusing. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Sir Kevin
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Arseholes were fecking awful last weekend! Can my Spurs catch them up? A pint of Guinness at the local pub with a colleague rests on your predictions!
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That was one of the most impressive bits of skill I've ever seen. Fabulous!
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I was in Sunderland on Saturday to witness Chelsea's laboured efforts first hand. I'm sincerely hoping they were saving up their sparkle to give Spurs a proper thrashing tonight. (I'll be at that game too!)
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Mo****f****r, Mo****f*****r,M*****f*****r! - You are so fired! You ruined my Spurs - now we are a laughing stocK! You should be burned in effigy and all of your wages should be forfeited. You are the manager from Hell!
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Sir Kevin
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(Go to Hell IF!) I hate you too! You are a barm pot!
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Sir K, a bit of banter on the sports threads is all well and good (and saves a poor sportsphobic host from dying of utter boredom when she reads it), but can you just make sure that you keep it appropriate for a circus thread. That comment was on the verge of crossing the line from banter to personal attack. Play nicely, boys, please.
Smudgie (Circus host)
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Catching up on Ship affairs after a busy time, I found this thread. I naturally assumed that 'the Beautiful Game'was Mornington Crescent
I think I need to get out more.
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Imaginary Friend
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3-0 is alright by me. Seeing Didier score was great, and Rémy's goal happened right in front of me, so I was very happy. Anyone who leave Vertonghen the wrong'un on his arse is a hero! And the Spurs fans mostly left early and were booing their team so the Schadenfreude kept me warm all the way home. Most enjoyable.
[ 05. December 2014, 18:03: Message edited by: Imaginary Friend ]
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Imaginary Friend
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Originally posted by The Weeder:
I think I need to get out more.
Or alternatively, you could just start a MC thread. We haven't had one for aaaaages...
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Sir Kevin
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Sir Kevin
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You are so fired, you Portuguese-speaking idiot! Go back to effing Sunderland and stop ruining my Spurs!
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Imaginary Friend
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Ummmm....
Perhaps I have misunderstood you. But Mauricio Pochettino is Argentine, and played his professional football in Spain. So he is likely a Spanish speaker by birth and upbringing, not a speaker of Portuguese. And what's wrong with speaking Portuguese, anyway? The best manager in the world does, and he's doing all right!
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Pochettino did very well at Southampton (not Sunderland - we're the other team in red and white stripes). Maybe it's the players..?
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Originally posted by Starbug:
Pochettino did very well at Southampton (not Sunderland - we're the other team in red and white stripes). Maybe it's the players..?
But then again Southampton do even better without him - maybe that was the players..? ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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But half the players are now "succeeding" at Liverpool. It's a mystery.
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Imaginary Friend:
But half the players are now "succeeding" at Liverpool. It's a mystery.
Another is doing as well at Old Trafford too.
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Beautiful my eye! Spurs manager is a complete fuckup: he should go back to Portugal! That said, I am also a supporter of the Oakland Raiders, another team run by Freddy Fuckup, the man who can do no good. They should both be in charge of teenage girls...
God knows I'd like to see Spurs in their traditional place in the top 4: better to stop the hemorrhaging now by firing both of them! Does John Madden have no male offspring with talent? I miss Super Bowl 9 in 1976 when Charles Phillips, my junior varsity quarterback at BHS was backup quarterback for the Raiders at Super Bowl 9, circa 1976 at the fabulous Rose Bowl. I no longer follow the NFL since Madden retired and left his former team in the lurch!
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Some interesting ties in the FA Cup third round draw.
United will have to travel to either Accrington or Yeovil. There's a replay of last year's final. Liverpool travel to AFC Wimbledon, and Palace have to go to Dover Athletic. Plenty of opportunity for a bit of "giant killing".
(And Chelsea? We've got a relatively tame home draw against Watford.)
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Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
God knows I'd like to see Spurs in their traditional place in the top 4:
Since the formation of the Premier League in 1992-1993 Spurs have been in the top 4 exactly twice. Everton, have done practically as well and the highlight of our Premier League history has been staying in it! (three 17th place finishes, including one injury-time turnaround).
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Sir Kevin
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That said, what are the odds of the Portuguese bumbling idiot getting fired and Palace choking on their own vomit and losing three-nil or worse on Wednesday? Likely about the same as Happy Harry Redknapp coming to the rescue of Spurs before the end of 2014? Is this season to be completely written off? I am not a realist. Miracles have happened before. If worse comes to worse, I owe a colleague a pint of Guinness if as is likely his side (Arsenal) remains in the top 6 and ahead of Spurs...
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A fairly ugly advertisement for the beautiful game at The Bridge today. Apart from a couple of very good goals there was a contender for Worst Challenge of the Year (Huddlestone, Hull) and three outright dives by Chelsea players, despite which Jose Mourinho asserts that his players do not dive. FFS three of them did just that and two were booked for it. Had the other been booked Chelsea would have deservedly been a man down. Still, a big, rich club at home, what do you expect?
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