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Anyway, your knight in the shiny white soutane has already arrived and restored the gender balance. Maybe we can just leave it at that?

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Knights in white soutanes, world without end
Epistles I've written, never meaning to send

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Originally posted by venbede:
I have been extremely grateful for anonymity at times: it has allowed me to express and recognise aspects of myself that I would not have done otherwise. I've said things about myself and personal experience that I wouldn't otherwise.

I've been a bit wary of posting here since a vicar of a church which I attend occasionally and on which I have commented here (not dismissively) on shaking my hand at the end of the service chuckled and murmured "Ship of Fools". "How did you know?" I said. "Obvious" he replied.

I found that a kind and salutary comment.

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Look! Look! Orfeo has feelings! Poke him! Poke him right in the feely parts!

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deano can be easily misinterpreted, as he does an excellent imitation of the mating call of the Trollus blowhardus.
But truly, I think he is simply attempting to save money on his Viagra prescription.


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Ms jackson's performance in in the film adaptation of D.H. Lawrence's Women in Love was responsible for my first orgasam . Respect to the lady.

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TMI!!

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No no no! OrgaSAM. Totally different.

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I assumed that the rekindled memory caused the hands to quiver while typing.

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Hollywood is perfectionist. If they make a great film they keep remaking it until it is horrible.
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But FFS, none of this is rational, in any case, is it?

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I think the theology of twatness is vastly underrated. In my forthcoming monograph 'Twats I have known and preached at', I try to show that twatness is neither innate nor learned, but just sort of twatty.

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If anyone under the age of 80 shows up, single, a couple, or (praise Allah) an entire family, they are fauned over like a missionary at a convention of cannibals.

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Are you kidding me? Cooking up/working out absurd theories is half the fun of discussing Who.
This thread must look to non-Whovians like the cricket thread does to me.
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For what it is worth, Foucault is never consistent. Therefore to create a TULIP version of Foucault is to get him wrong.

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Personally, I think anytime Alan calls you to Hell you ought to do a lengthy personal inventory and critical self analysis. That is just me.

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Doctor Who Puffin books

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"Fourth Doctor. The Roots of Evil. Out Now" and a picture of a man with wild-looking hair.

I assume this is the well-known story of the Fourth Doctor and his quest to find the one hairdresser in the galaxy who could do something about the roots of evil.

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Doc Tor, whether there are 2, 20, 200,000,000,000, or 2x10^24 tells us nothing at all unless we know not only the 'how' but also the 'why' of our present existence. As things stand we think we know something about the 'how' (which may yet prove to be very little, or even a misunderstanding), and are still pretty clueless on the 'why'.

As I said previously, even if the universe is 'teaming' with life the sheer scale of the universe may effectively mean we are as good as being alone in the universe, so the whole matter becomes academic anyway.

As it stands we stand on our ball of rock and water, and what we do here and now, and why we do it, is all that really matters. What others may do somewhere else beyond this solar system will almost certainly (until we have information to the contrary) have no bearing on your life, mine, or anybody else who has ever lived here (and, the way things are going, will ever live here).

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Speak for yourself, sweetie. Without a vision, the people perish.

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For all we know this 'universe' was indeed created entirely with the purpose of offering 'us' a protected anteroom where we can explore and choose and live, and not be confronted with the full glory of 'God', but be able to encounter 'God' in a 'safe' kind of space.

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It is a matter of eternal regret that none of the Gospels record the answers of the thief on the cross when Jesus enquired how he felt about TULIP and the filioque.

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And I'll use as many effing smilies as I like, even in Hell. Who died and made you the smilie monitor?

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To the annoying little fucker who wouldn't leave my bar tonight: you were here when I came on shift. you stayed here all fucking night. I had to kick you out after closing. I quit serving you hours ago, yet you stayed. and stayed. and talked all fucking night. and then want me to go to your house? in your dreams, you little sad excuse for a man. die in a fire.

Dude, I've been hearing about your divorce and how you wuz wronged for 4 fucking years now. get the fuck over it. She's remarried. She has a baby, for fucks sake. move the fuck on. NOBODY CARES ANYMORE.

and don't tell me about how hard your $90K/year job is. fuck you. you work two weeks a month, make an obscene amount of money as a fucking cook in a cafeteria, and I'm sitting here on minimum wage listening to you whine and bitch and complain and I'm supposed to have sympathy because your cell phone gets no reception in your kitchen? FUCK. OFF.

and if you, you grotesque skeez, tell me one more time how hot you think my daughter is, I swear by all that is good and holy I will pee in your cuervo and smile happily as you suck it down because you won't be able to taste the difference, you slimy little scuzzbag.

and you know what? yes, my daughter is gorgeous. blood tells. she also shot your ass down and that just stings, doesn't it? I hope it stings like a motherfucker. because you don't even know that she is also smart, and fun, and talented, and kind, and all those things that really fucking matter. you claim you are her "friend" yet you know nothing about her except that she polishes up nice. fuck you. fuck you very much. fuck you with a broken fiberglass tent pole. coated in vinegar. and splinters.

I swear if you come back tomorrow and think you can spend my entire shift sitting here bugging me and never fucking leave and hang out when I close and generally act like a stalker, I'm going to clock out, take you off the premises, and beat you until you make squishy sounds when you walk.

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Hell: a bunch of wordy, anal-retentive, humorless, uptight freaks endlessly debating the minutia of imagined denominational differences.

Oh, wait...

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I believe the majority is right in telling you what the majority of people think of you. Which is the thing that the Greek chorus most often communicates in Hell.

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But you've got to decide whose opinion you respect too. A mild criticism from say...RuthW...will bring me up short, while frothing at the mouth from...well a lot of usual suspects...is like water off a duck's back.

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Hearsay, tradition, wishful thinking, nice warm feelings, voices in one’s head, arguments from authority by men in fancy dress, stories invented/embraced by nomadic stone-age goat herders and uncorroborated writings chosen as sacred by a group commanded by a despotic emperor do not meet the standards normally required for “solid evidence”.

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Can I just say how much I appreciate the level of conversation and debate on the Ship? Anywhere else on the internet is a crap shoot with loaded dice as to whether you will find somebody who really knows how to hash over a disagreement in a logical manner. On the Ship your odds skyrocket.

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Well, Punk, I AM a citizen. I vote. I also support the second ammendment, in theory. I have HUGE FUCKING ISSUES with what some idiots in the country are doing in the interpretation, however.

I was raised by a hunting guide and outfitter. The first time I ate "domesticated" meat I was 12 years old. I still think beef tastes like cardboard, by the way.

I fired my first rifle when I was five. I was given my own .22, and joyfully killed a lot of coffee cans. I also fired my mom's 30.06 and the recoil knocked me back 4 feet- yet I still hit my target.

Won my first targetting competition at age 10. Beat out 12 boys. My prize was a .357.

Shot my first goose at 12. Took it home to my mama bursting with pride.

Guided my first hunter at 23. Got him on a B&C trophy elk his second day out.

Gave up firearms at 30 because I prefer the challenge of a bow. Recurve and tradional athabascan longbow, since you ask.

My daughter was so well trained she made her college rifle team first string as a freshman. Both my boys have more training than most of the gun nuts at the sportsmen shows- i know; I ask.

Essentially, my firearm cred is good.

So answer me this: why do we use the Second to justify selling firearms to people who have no idea how to use them? Anyone who knows what the fuck theyre doing with a gun knows that it's bloody stupid to allow someone to handle one without so much as a 1 day training. My teenage son is not allowed to drive a car without passing a written test, six months mimimum of supervised practice, and a driving test. But if I chose I could strap a .44 on my eleven year old and set him loose.

When I was in sixth grade, i was required to take a gun safety course. In my school. It was taught by the commander of our VFW, and nobody was allowed to opt out. He brought a bunch of .22s into my school. That would not even be allowed today. So where's the logic? Guns banned from school - good in theory - now no one gets trained. But god fucking forbid we require people have to know what they're doing with a deadly weapon. Sex offenders have to be registered for all to see, but diagnosed mentally ill with a history of violence can be packing so long as they dont have a felony conviction.

Hell, felons cant legally have guns, but in my state the gun dealers violate their rights if they even check if they're felons.

Guns dont kill people. Neither do cars. Neither does booze. Neither do drugs. Or fucking bombs, for that matter. They're all inanimate objects. But we're perfectly happy to regulate the use of all the other objects to keep the ignorant (or dangerous) from hurting themselves or others. because they're fucking dangerous objects and not fucking toys.

the difference is all in the hysteria. And make no mistake, it is crazyass hysteria, here. the hysteria brought on by the fucking NRA that says if we give an inch, we might as well just hand it all over and then it's fucking 1984 and the Thought Police.

That, sunshine, is whacked out bullshit. Know what else is whacked out bullshit? All those fucking loonies who think they need firearms to protect themselves from our own government. our government isn't that organized. They have other fish to fry. And they couldn't organize a fucking hand job in a whorehouse without ten subcommitees, 5 years of testimony, 20 riders from greedyass senators, and at least one emasculating compromise. It aint going to happen.

But it feeds the hysteria to say so; and my god it makes some fine profits for the gun companies, doesn't it?

Fuck those guys.

So I'm all about keeping our hands off the Second, but does anyone really believe the powers that be are going to touch it? Come on. Quit drinking the fucking Rush flavored kool aid and grow up.

Meanwhile, let's use the same concept we do for automobiles or booze, and have some common sense structure in place. I say we require firearms safety training in all schools. I say you have to have a certificate of training to buy a firearm. I say you have to have all firearms and ammo stored securely or you cant have 'em. I say you have to not be a certified loony to have'em. I say you are legally responsible for what your firearm does even if it's out of your hands. I say all gun sellers- including private individuals- are responsible for making sure their firearms aren't going to the next batshit Idaho militia freak.

This is easy stuff. Common sense stuff. But common sense isn't allowed in the discussion anymore because of the ignorant fear-mongering enjoyed by the right wing propogandists. So we're fucked and nothing will change.

Thanks for that. Keep watching Fox and drinking that kool aid, you ignorant, hysterical fucks.

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The Annunaki are REAL! I was a skeptic, but then the kind chap who lives in the local underpass offered to show me the TRUTH and when I woke up and dried off from the ice bath he'd left me in (apparently extreme cold shorts out the Illuminati tracking chip they implant in everyone at birth) I could hear the beautiful song of the wonderful travellers from Orion! To think it was being blocked by my fillings - DENTISTRY IS PART OF THE CONSPIRACY, PEOPLE!!!

The One World Government conceals the truth about the Annunaki, but not well enough. Someone found out at the start of the last century - King Edward VIII and his brother Adolf. When it became clear that the Cabal would never allow the Truth to be disseminated the latter even hid a clue to it in the name of his political party - AnnuNAKI/NAZI - coincidence? HA! You have been deceived my FRIEND! The whole of WW2 was fought to make sure that THAT clue would never AGAIN be seen!

Ia, Ia - they come AT last! Earth Government hides ALL truth! The pyramids are PROOF! NASA is lying to you! The Earth is NOT FLAT! The Annunaki will return! The Labyrinth has you! I am the Minotaur! Take the RED pill! THE cake is A lie! WE aLl live in A YELLOW subMARine! THE CAKE IS A LIE!!!

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Some people like to make out that the evil liberal do-gooding politically correct health and safety gay mafia feminazi thought police are persecuting them for their faith.

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You all qualify for residency in Northern California.* Every one of you.

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