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Marvin the Martian
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
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Originally posted by Martin60:
We can't see it for you.
Apparently you can't even begin to explain it either.
It has been explained. In a reasonable and rational way.
It's possible I've missed a post somewhere on this thread. Could you link to it?
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Just a whole lot of bluster about cause and effect that ignores (or denies) any ability of human beings to make choices.
Do you actually not understand what non-zero sum means? Or how it works?
In context, I'd imagine you mean that blame doesn't have to be apportioned wholly in one direction. But that doesn't mean it's fair to assign blame willy-nilly without cause.
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Martin60
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
Ah, you're back to the "nobody bears any responsibility or blame for anything" line of thought. Which would be fine if you were consistent, but when you've spent so much time blaming Western Imperialism for all the ills of the world it falls a little flat.
It's all about what one does with what one has. Western Imperialism has ALWAYS had more than enough. Christ.
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Golden Key
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One form of causality:
Boss yells at man.
Man goes home, and yells at wife.
Wife yells at kid.
Kid yells at dog.
Dog bites mailman...
(This is decades old, so not inclusive.)
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Marvin the Martian
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Originally posted by Martin60:
It's all about what one does with what one has.
See, now you're saying that people have responsibility for their own choices. Make your mind up.
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Marvin the Martian
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Originally posted by Golden Key:
One form of causality:
Boss yells at man.
Man goes home, and yells at wife.
Wife yells at kid.
Kid yells at dog.
Dog bites mailman...
Assuming that we all agree that all those things are bad, how do we assign blame in that causal chain?
I would say that each of the participants has responsibility for their own action. Each of them had a choice to respond to the prior interaction in the way they did. Well, maybe not the dog, but you get the picture.
Going by what's been said on this thread, some would say the boss is wholly to blame for the mailman getting bitten, and no-one else in the chain bears any guilt at all.
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Martin60
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The abuse of power starts at the top and avalanches down. Proverbs 29:2 2nd half.
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